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[DnD 4E Discussion] Psion is out and it is awesome, and I normally hate psionics.

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  • HellbunnyHellbunny Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Aegeri wrote: »
    ITT people try to tell you the way you like to pretend playing as a fantasy elf or dwarf is wrong.

    It's never wrong if you're not LARPing. :|

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  • DelmainDelmain Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Hellbunny wrote: »
    Aegeri wrote: »
    ITT people try to tell you the way you like to pretend playing as a fantasy elf or dwarf is wrong.

    It's never wrong if you're not LARPing. :|

    Boffer Larp!

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  • cytorakcytorak Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Drizzt's ability scores are houseruled: he's 10 in the hole.

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  • YesNoMuYesNoMu Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    cytorak wrote: »
    Drizzt's ability scores are houseruled: he's 10 in the hole.
    Not surprising--Drow two-weapon rangers aren't super-optimal. Makes sense they'd jack him up to keep him powerful.

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  • YesNoMuYesNoMu Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    So how's this for luck: I'm playing an Avenger finally, and we come up against the evil ruler of this town. And suddenly, I can't roll over a ten on either d20 for something like three turns in a row. Then a brain in a jar pops out and dominates me, I charge at my sorc buddy and get a crit with my one roll. I nearly dropped her in one hit. Arggh, my virtual dice are trying to kill me.

    EDIT: Plus, then I don't save for the next two turns, causing the only melee member of the party (me) to be actively working against the other two. The wizard ended up dying from straight HP damage!

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  • TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    YesNoMu wrote: »
    So how's this for luck: I'm playing an Avenger finally, and we come up against the evil ruler of this town. And suddenly, I can't roll over a ten on either d20 for something like three turns in a row. Then a brain in a jar pops out and dominates me, I charge at my sorc buddy and get a crit with my one roll. I nearly dropped her in one hit. Arggh, my virtual dice are trying to kill me.

    EDIT: Plus, then I don't save for the next two turns, causing the only melee member of the party (me) to be actively working against the other two. The wizard ended up dying from straight HP damage!

    Are you at the point where you can revive that person without substantial monetary loss? As a DM, I don't usually let people's characters die because of horrendous luck. They do something stupid, sure.

    At the very least, you should mysteriously find a Scroll of Raise Dead amongst the treasure, on top of whatever you would get normally.

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  • YesNoMuYesNoMu Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Well, I had to run away (pulled a pretty sweet wall-running acrobatic stunt to escape, unconscious Sorc in tow), so we didn't get any treasure. And we are only level 6, so RD is a hefty chunk of change at the moment. We ended the session right when I escaped, so let's hope our DM is as nice as you would be.

    We would have to recover his body first, though...

    EDIT: I didn't hear, I was a bit busy running while attempting to stabilize my pal...

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  • Mike DangerMike Danger "Diane..." a place both wonderful and strangeRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    There's three drow cultures in Eberron? I know the Vulkoori are the scorpion guys. What are the other two?

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  • MaticoreMaticore A Will To Power Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Mike Danger wrote: »
    There's three drow cultures in Eberron? I know the Vulkoori are the scorpion guys. What are the other two?

    The Umbragen are partially fused with Elemental shadow.

    The Sulatar use alot of the Giants' old magic and a TON of elemental fire stuff. They're pretty darn civilized (but they hate everyone but other Sulatar.) The three factions are usually at war, but will occasionally unite to slaughter some Giants.

    EDIT: and for the record, the Vulkoori worship Vulkoor, a scorpion god, and are basically scorpion ninjas.

    EDIT2: All this and more when I get an Eberron primer worked up. Sometime later. It's about half done.

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Damn. I have the EBPG preordered (and will preorder the CG later) but all this talk makes me want to drag out my 3e books. *goes to see what /isn't/ boxed up in the storage building*

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  • SaurfangSaurfang Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I started running a Scales of War campaign IRL, but now I'm pretty sure I want to drop it and do Eberron forever. Any good adventures from 3.5 Eberron days that I should look at for ideas? Or anything else Eberron-related, for that matter?

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited June 2009
    Aegeri wrote: »
    This sounds like they have learned a lot from the 4E FRPG and 4E FRCG, which were a bit of a disaster because of the huge repetition in content between the books. I've often derogatively referred to the FRPG as the book for two new races and the swordmage class (due to how much content it basically repeated from the FRCG).

    I agree that the PG could have more new stuff, but what sort of things should it have instead? It is supposed to function as the players' only reference to the world, after all.

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  • tastydonutstastydonuts Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Aegeri wrote: »
    jacobkosh wrote: »
    Aegeri wrote: »
    This sounds like they have learned a lot from the 4E FRPG and 4E FRCG, which were a bit of a disaster because of the huge repetition in content between the books. I've often derogatively referred to the FRPG as the book for two new races and the swordmage class (due to how much content it basically repeated from the FRCG).

    I agree that the PG could have more new stuff, but what sort of things should it have instead? It is supposed to function as the players' only reference to the world, after all.

    Yeah, that's what I mean. They released them in an ass backwards manner IMO. It meant they basically were repeating too much.

    It's funny, I think of the FRPG as the book for two new races and the swordmage class too. Not to deride it, but because that's all it had to offer me. The EBPG would just be giving me the same thing (2 races, and a class)…

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  • Mike DangerMike Danger "Diane..." a place both wonderful and strangeRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Interesting little side story from my H1 game: the PCs have begun to delve into the keep, and have gained an ally--Sir Smidj, Kobold Paladin of Bahamut. (Someone tossed out "kobold crusader" as a character idea while the kobold cave encounters were going on, so I reflavored Splug as a kobold knight.)

    Best moment: setting him free.

    "Okay, I look around for the key."
    "Naw, you can just flip the lock open from the outside."
    "...The kobold couldn't open it?"
    "The keep was built by and for humans."
    "...Why couldn't he open it?"
    "The keep was built by and for humans."
    "OHHHH"

    If he dies, I think I am going to bring him back at epic levels as a reincarnated dragonborn prophet or something.

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  • delrolanddelroland Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    So, in other words, you'll give him the Deekin treatment. :P

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  • delrolanddelroland Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Hmm, Chameleon... I wonder how that will play into the role system of 4E.

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  • Mike DangerMike Danger "Diane..." a place both wonderful and strangeRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Phiarlan Phantasmist? Phantastic!
    I am so sorry

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    delroland wrote: »
    Hmm, Chameleon... I wonder how that will play into the role system of 4E.
    I would guess Striker/Controller, though I could be wrong. It's probably a PP, right? They don't really fall as strictly into categories as classes do.

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  • UnknownUnknown
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  • Mike DangerMike Danger "Diane..." a place both wonderful and strangeRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    aw yeah, who called it

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  • MaticoreMaticore A Will To Power Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Interesting, I wonder if that means Kalashtar have lost telepathy.

    Because that causes Rage in me, as the spell, as though cast by a twelth level caster.

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  • MaticoreMaticore A Will To Power Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    That is perfect and how I house ruled Telepathic Bond last edition.

    WE ARE PLACATED.

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  • delrolanddelroland Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Aegeri wrote: »
    Chameleon is a racial PP for Changelings.

    Obviously; I'm more interested in its implementation. In 3.5, it allowed a character to change his class every day, so that one day he was a cleric, the next a fighter, the next a wizard, etc. I'm really curious how this will play out in the new edition, or if they just scrap that altogether and go with something else.
    Mike Danger wrote: »
    aw yeah, who called it

    Why, yes. Yes you did. :)

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    Wait, 13 dragonmarks? That means the Mark of Death is back!

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  • MaticoreMaticore A Will To Power Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    delroland wrote: »
    Aegeri wrote: »
    Chameleon is a racial PP for Changelings.

    Obviously; I'm more interested in its implementation. In 3.5, it allowed a character to change his class every day, so that one day he was a cleric, the next a fighter, the next a wizard, etc. I'm really curious how this will play out in the new edition, or if they just scrap that altogether and go with something else.

    It'll probably be like the Cabinet Trickster from Races of Eberron, the 'canonical' Changeling prestige class. General trickery and pulling jerk moves on your enemies, of course Cabinet Trickster relied on detect thoughts, so...

    And I've decided to rework my Eberron thread to be in the character of a Sharn bartender. Sorry it's taking so long but I really do love this setting alot. If anything, this is the thing I'm a fanboy about.

    EDIT: I only count twelve dragonmarks?

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  • MaticoreMaticore A Will To Power Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    OH! You guys are counting the Mark of Shadow twice.

    Thuranni and Phiarlan.

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  • projectmayhemprojectmayhem Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Ok. I played a little 3.5 and I am now mid php 4e game with some friends. Right now all I have are the core books (mm, dmg, ph). I've been flipping through the new ones and they all look really cool, would it be worth it to get them even though I will be the only one out of my group to have them (we all live in different places so they for the most part, wouldnt have access to the info)? I was thinking of getting the Delve and Undead book me thinks.

    Also, whats um, whats Eberron?

    Just read the wiki, is it basically dungeons and dragons with out dungeons and dragons + post war setting?

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  • delrolanddelroland Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Maticore wrote: »
    OH! You guys are counting the Mark of Shadow twice.

    Thuranni and Phiarlan.

    Ah.

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    projectmayhem wrote: »
    Just read the wiki, is it basically dungeons and dragons with out dungeons and dragons + post war setting?

    There are plenty of dragons. There's an [strike]island[/strike] continent full of dragons. There are even dragon PROPHECIES.

    And dungeons, well, dungeons are wherever you want them to be, like most campaign settings.

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  • delrolanddelroland Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    projectmayhem wrote: »
    Ok. I played a little 3.5 and I am now mid php 4e game with some friends. Right now all I have are the core books (mm, dmg, ph). I've been flipping through the new ones and they all look really cool, would it be worth it to get them even though I will be the only one out of my group to have them (we all live in different places so they for the most part, wouldnt have access to the info)? I was thinking of getting the Delve and Undead book me thinks.

    Also, whats um, whats Eberron?

    Just read the wiki, is it basically dungeons and dragons with out dungeons and dragons + post war setting?

    Yes, that's exactly what it is.

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  • projectmayhemprojectmayhem Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Aegeri wrote: »
    Are you the DM or a player? If you're just playing, I would get the FRPG and Players Handbook II for more options as opposed to Dungeon Delve and Open Grave. You should then get Martial Power and Arcane Power (which are just great books).

    Ah forgot that part, yeah I am DM'ing as of right now because I am the only one of us with any real knowledge of 4e.

    And Eberron seems to be 5tons of awesome.

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  • MaticoreMaticore A Will To Power Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    The most important of those is MM2 in my opinion.

    You could also save for Eberron Campaign Setting in the next month or so.

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  • projectmayhemprojectmayhem Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    will it matter if I am the only person with those books? I know mm2 I can get away with

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