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Final Fantasy IV: The After Years - Episodic WiiWare sequel to FFIV, 2 eps out now

LunkerLunker Registered User regular
edited June 2009 in Games and Technology
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Who: Final Fantasy IV: The After Years
What: An episodic gaming sequel to storied JRPG Final Fantasy IV. Originally a cell-phone-only game in Japan, it's been revived and rebundled for WiiWare in North America
When: First two episodes (initial game and Rydia' Story) out now
Where: WiiWare
Why is this not all bundled together: Because we are whores and SE knows it well.

Official NA site for The After Years

So here's the good news:
Some time ago last year, there was wailing and gnashing of teeth when Square Enix announced that it was making a direct sequel to Final Fantasy IV ... and bringing it exclusively to Japanese cell phones. SE has since relented and has decided to bring its series to North American gamers via WiiWare.

And here's the bad news:
It's certainly not priced like an SNES game. Since it's an episodic game, the initial game (simple "The After Years") is 800 points; future episodes are each 300 points a pop, except for the conclusion, which is another 800 points. If you buy every episode, you'll end up spending $37.

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So what's the deal with episodes and spending all this money? FU Square GAYnix.
Here's how it breaks down:
  • The initial game, "The After Years," costs 800 points. This is the base game and includes three of the game's chapters.
  • There are also 7 individual "Tales," each featuring a character from the original FFIV. Rydia, Yang, Palom, Edge, Porom, Edward and the Lunarians, to be precise. Each Tale costs 300 points. You can buy and play these in any order you wish, or skip them entirely if you'd like.
  • The finale to the game, "The Crystals," apparently has the last three chapters of the JP game and also costs 800 points.

So it's episodic, but from what I understand it's not really linear. You can buy and play the Tales in any order you want, or skip right to the last section (The Crystals). If it makes you feel better, it's about the same cost as a full-priced Square Enix game on the DS.

What's the schedule of release for episodes?
The initial game (The After Years) and the first Tale (Rydia's Story) was made available on June 1. Future episodes will be released in bursts at the beginning of the next few months, ending sometime in August IIRC. I'll update this with the specific dates later today.

How does it play?
Well, like Final Fantasy IV. Though it's got a few new twists, including taking phases of the moon into account and something of a Dual/Triple Tech Chrono Cross-ish system called Bands.
Wikipedia wrote:
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years will utilize most of the gameplay features of Final Fantasy IV, including random encounters and the Active Time Battle (ATB) system, which it originally popularized. It will also retain a number of the graphical enhancements from the Wonderswan Color and Game Boy Advance versions of Final Fantasy IV, while further improving the quality of the character sprites to a level comparable with those of Final Fantasy VI.

The battle system uses a new feature called the "Age of the Moon", which reflects the game's lunar phases, which change as players rest at inns, with each of the phases altering physical and magical attack powers for both player characters and enemies. Certain rare monsters will also only appear during certain lunar phases.

The game will also introduce a new type of combination attack through the "Band System" , known as a "Band" ability. Similar to the Double and Triple Techs of Chrono Trigger, these allow two or more characters to coordinate separate commands into a single new attack at the cost of MP from all involved. Band abilities are said to be extremely powerful, and there will be over 50 different Band abilities in all.

So what's the game about?
Wikipedia wrote:
Following the events of the original Final Fantasy IV, the second moon leaves the Blue Planet's orbit and there is a period of peace as Damcyan, Eblan, and the Village of Mist are rebuilt, while the kingdom of Baron come under the rule of Cecil and his wife, Rosa. However, 17 years later, the second moon has reappeared in the sky, much closer to the planet than it was years ago, and the unchanging Crystals begin to emit a soft light; however, the meaning behind these events remains unknown.

The game revolves around Ceodore, a young man who is the son of Cecil Harvey and Rosa Farrell, two of the protagonists from the original, both of whom return along with most of the other main cast members and a number of entirely new characters. Amongst these new additions to the cast are the Hooded Man, a wandering swordsman enshrouded in purple robes who is strangely familiar with Cecil's previous adventure, and the "Mysterious Girl", a female antagonist able to summon Eidolons who is attacking kingdoms and searching for the Crystals.

The storyline of the game unfolds through episodic chapters, released roughly once a month, each with each primarily focused on a specific character. These chapters utilize foreshadowing, cliffhangers, flashbacks, and a nonlinear narrative structure to build the world setting and both explore and expand upon the mysterious events befalling the Blue Planet.

How long is each episode? Is this shit worth it?
I have no idea. That's what I'm asking you guys to help me find out!

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  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    There was some talk about this in the general FF thread but I wanted to break it out, 1) to draw attention to the fact the game is actually out, and 2) because a ton of people had questions about the pricing. I tried to explain it well in the OP, but the base game (The After Years) allegedly has the first three chapters included, and future episodes are DLC packs that plug into that base. It's all mix-and-match and very nonlinear: Future episodes are seven "Tales" that center around different characters from the original FFIV, and then a finale called "The Crystals" that is supposed to tie everything together. You can ignore all of the Tales and just buy the first and last parts if you wish, or buy and play Tales in any sequence you want—they're selectable individually from The After Years's main menu.

    I just bought the game last night and I'm dedicated to tinkering around with SE's episodic experiment. So far it, well, plays just like FFIV, though I'm only about 40 minutes in. Who else is checking this out?

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Lunker wrote: »
    I just bought the game last night and I'm dedicated to tinkering around with SE's episodic experiment. So far it, well, plays just like FFIV, though I'm only about 40 minutes in. Who else is checking this out?

    I will be checking out when it comes out in Europe. I was never that big fan of FFIV, mostly because of unnecessary grinding, but its not like there is that many JRPGs with old skool gameplay around.

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  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    elkatas wrote: »
    Lunker wrote: »
    I just bought the game last night and I'm dedicated to tinkering around with SE's episodic experiment. So far it, well, plays just like FFIV, though I'm only about 40 minutes in. Who else is checking this out?

    I will be checking out when it comes out in Europe. I was never that big fan of FFIV, mostly because of unnecessary grinding, but its not like there is that many JRPGs with old skool gameplay around.

    FFIV is kind of my Ocarina; I'll pretty much buy it and anything related to it on a whim. :oops: I found there were only one or two real hard-core grind spots needed in the original FFIV, but then again I know the game inside and out by now so it's hard to develop context for that kind of thing. This is barring the DS version, which throws the fucking book at you in the final dungeon and turned even me off.

    A nice feature of The After Years—it's got a save-anywhere Quicksave from the status menu, which is a godsend for me nowadays.

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  • SlayerVinSlayerVin Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Final Fantasy 2 (4) was my first RPG ever, so I've been fairly interested in this, though I don't have a Wii. Since Shiren 3 was announced, I'm sure I'll be picking one up soon, so I'll probably check it out then.

    I'm of the opinion that when the story ended, it was over. Unfortunately SE had other plans in mind, so I almost certainly have to play this in order to keep current with my 2nd favorite FF. Is the story actually any good? That was definitely the highlight of the original.

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  • CalaveronCalaveron Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Man, FUCK episodic gaming.

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  • RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    This is the one thing I hate about E3 this year; all the reviewers are busy with E3 so no one is reviewing this game.

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  • MinionOfCthulhuMinionOfCthulhu Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Blarggg @ that pricing scheme. Wasn't this a cell phone game? Did the cell phone game cost almost 40 dollars?

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Did the cell phone game cost almost 40 dollars?

    More actually. Around 60 bucks, if I remember correctly.

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Blarggg @ that pricing scheme. Wasn't this a cell phone game? Did the cell phone game cost almost 40 dollars?

    500 yen an episode, first episode free, twelve episodes.

    so 1100 yen total.

    Oh and you had to be a subscriber to a cellphone service to play it.

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  • jeddy leejeddy lee Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Played about 15 minutes last night... very charming.

    Very begining spoiler (first 3 minutes):
    Getting bitch slapped by Biggs was quite the suprise.

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  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Pata wrote: »
    Blarggg @ that pricing scheme. Wasn't this a cell phone game? Did the cell phone game cost almost 40 dollars?

    500 yen an episode, first episode free, twelve episodes.

    so 1100 yen total.

    Oh and you had to be a subscriber to a cellphone service to play it.

    Let's remember that digital distro is pretty much the only reason this is coming here at all. The price is a little steep, but I'm curious to see how much game is actually available in each episode. If the number of episodes was actually 13, then this balances out to about $2.50 to $3 an episode.

    The concept of episodic RPGing is kind of intriguing. I really liked the PA Adventures game too, though I bought it when it was on sale for $10 and it gave me a good 5-6 hours of gaming, plus it had really excellent writing. I'm no longer the kind of guy who thinks sitting around and grinding 40+ hours out of an RPG is a worthwhile investment of time, so bite-sized chunks of gaming at a few bucks a pop is up my alley. Though I secretly wish this were a DSiWare app, I guess the modular nature of the game doesn't really lend itself to that.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Potentially interested, but this is a mite expensive.
    I'll wait on reviews/better word-of-mouth.

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  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    General impressions from other forums say that each chunk of game will give about 3-ish hours of gameplay for regular story stuff, plus there's optional content (some bonus dungeons and rare drops) if you're the type that squeezes 100 percent out of everything.

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Why isn't this being released on the DSiWare?

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  • SirUltimosSirUltimos Don't talk, Rusty. Just paint. Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I downloaded it yesterday and am about 4 hours into it. It's not up to the standards that the original FF4 was, but I'm enjoying it so far. I also find it pretty damn hard.

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  • MinionOfCthulhuMinionOfCthulhu Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    elkatas wrote: »
    Did the cell phone game cost almost 40 dollars?

    More actually. Around 60 bucks, if I remember correctly.

    Jesus Christ, that's absurd. And I thought Square-Enix's 'SquareTax' in the form of 40 dollar DS games was absurd.
    We still pay it, though.

    :(

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    Why isn't this being released on the DSiWare?

    Because you can't use the Classic Controller like an SNES pad on DSiWare.

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I am a Final Fantasy IV nut, so this will be purchased in the near future. I really didn't expect it to be quite to the level of the original IV, so that doesn't upset me too much.

    FF4 was really the first RPG I ever got attached to. I was around 13 when this came out, and a goofy shy kid, so a lot of my afternoons were spent with Cecil, Rosa, Edge, Rydia and Kain grinding up levels and searching for Power Vests, Glass Helmets and Glass Shields. There is a deep nostalgia factor for me in a true sequel, even if it falls a bit short of the original.

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  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm about 1:45 into the game right now, and I'm liking it a lot. It's a lot tougher than I expected it to be; I was visibly stunned when one of the first non-Prologue battles had a Doom Gaze-type critter Dooming and then Hasting Cecil right from the get go, and this is, like, 5 minutes into the episode. It's very obviously aimed at people who loved and played the crap out of the original. A cute little touch: Someone on the Red Wings has a flashback to when Cecil was leading the charge to Mysidia in the intro to the original FFIV, and it reverts to the original sprites for the sequence. And the Band system seems kind of cool to experiment with, though I'm still trying to figure out exactly how it works.

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  • MinionOfCthulhuMinionOfCthulhu Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Wow, the second episode is out already? How fast are they going to release these?

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Three a month.

    The second episode was released along with the first.

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    SRWWSig.pngEpisode 5: Mecha-World, Mecha-nisim, Mecha-beasts
  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Wow, the second episode is out already? How fast are they going to release these?

    And more specifically, they're releasing three right at the top of each month. 3 Tales will come on July 6, 3 more on August 3, and the end of the game will be available on September 7.

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  • DeathofaLionDeathofaLion __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    I love FFIV, but this game looks shitty. I think i'll just Wiki the story once it's all over.

    Also, what the hell kind of a name is Ceodore? That's just retarded.

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  • bikkibikkibobikkibikkibo Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    god dammit. I do not own a Wii and FFIV is dear to my heart.... fucking christ.

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  • SirUltimosSirUltimos Don't talk, Rusty. Just paint. Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    The band system is kind of confusing. I haven't actually figured any out yet that it hasn't given to me automatically.

    Now if only Ceodore would stay standing. Might make things a bit easier.

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  • SirUltimosSirUltimos Don't talk, Rusty. Just paint. Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Okay, so I just beat the base game, no Rydia's Tale yet. I enjoyed it, but it gets ass rapingly hard near the end.

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  • MinionOfCthulhuMinionOfCthulhu Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    SirUltimos wrote: »
    Okay, so I just beat the base game, no Rydia's Tale yet. I enjoyed it, but it gets ass rapingly hard near the end.

    How long did it take you?

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I love FFIV, but this game looks shitty. I think i'll just Wiki the story once it's all over.

    Also, what the hell kind of a name is Ceodore? That's just retarded.

    The game that looks just like the game you like looks shitty?

    Also what the hell kind of name is [Insert Any FF Name Ever Here]

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  • SirUltimosSirUltimos Don't talk, Rusty. Just paint. Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    SirUltimos wrote: »
    Okay, so I just beat the base game, no Rydia's Tale yet. I enjoyed it, but it gets ass rapingly hard near the end.

    How long did it take you?

    Around 4 hours.

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  • MinionOfCthulhuMinionOfCthulhu Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Furu wrote: »
    I love FFIV, but this game looks shitty. I think i'll just Wiki the story once it's all over.

    Also, what the hell kind of a name is Ceodore? That's just retarded.

    The game that looks just like the game you like looks shitty?

    Also what the hell kind of name is [Insert Any FF Name Ever Here]

    Butz! Tee hee.

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  • Idx86Idx86 Long days and pleasant nights.Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I don't suppose they would throw this on a Wii disc or DS cart at all, huh? Maybe this is me being an old man, but I like my artifacts and physical copies.

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  • Orochi_RockmanOrochi_Rockman __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Add me to the "FF4 was my first RPG" Club.

    Really disappoints me that this couldn't just have been a full blown sequel on the DS and ended up as an episode based cellphone game.

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  • ThatOneYoYoGuyThatOneYoYoGuy Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    It's nice revisiting the FFIV world again.
    They were kind enough to refill the chests!

    To cope with the heavy hitting in the game, I put Ceodore in the back with Bow and Arrows. Since I bought the elemental arrows I should be able to match them up as necessary. I find his healing is pretty crappy, since his Single Target Cura still does less than a Hi-Potion. Instead of hoarding them before, I also started actually using the elemental items that casts spells.

    Side Story spoilers: Rydia's Tale
    Rydia's tale is pretty sick as well. I love how a group of certain characters was reincluded.

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  • BolthornBolthorn Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    god dammit. I do not own a Wii and FFIV is dear to my heart.... fucking christ.

    I'm right there with you. I have actually begun the debate of whether I should buy a Wii for this game.

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  • bikkibikkibobikkibikkibo Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Bolthorn wrote: »
    god dammit. I do not own a Wii and FFIV is dear to my heart.... fucking christ.

    I'm right there with you. I have actually begun the debate of whether I should buy a Wii for this game.

    considering FFIV is my favorite FF game, i might have to figure something out...but I don't wanna spend money on a wii.

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  • SirUltimosSirUltimos Don't talk, Rusty. Just paint. Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I do like how all the secret areas are still in place.

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  • ManetherenWolfManetherenWolf Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    crap. might have to go and buy this one. Havent used the Wii in forever, but this is tempting enough to get some use out of it.

    FFIV wasnt my first RPG (Dragon Warrior was, closely followed by FFI), but it WAS my favorite in the series. Something about all of the characters just sticks with you.

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  • ScrabbleDudeScrabbleDude Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm 3.5 hours in so I know I'm going to be done soon. But this game is fantastic. It's also ball bustingly hard in some places, which makes things truly fantastic -- I actually got a game over screen once.

    I also like how I level up faster in order to account for the shorter game. I'm almost level 30 and not even 4 hours in. Can't wait to play all the side stories.

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  • Orochi_RockmanOrochi_Rockman __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm enjoying this so far. HOWEVER!
    The Baron Waterway with two level 10 casters that can't gain any levels but still take their share of the post battle experience points!? Ugh.

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  • mrsinistermrsinister Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    FFIV is my favorite game ever. I had trouble believing this was even real for a long time.

    The thing is... I haven't played FFIV since release. If I want to replay it before playing this, which version should I get?

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