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In Love With Someone Who Hates Me

The Man With No FaceThe Man With No Face __BANNED USERS regular
edited June 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
The problem is in the title really.

I'm 17 and for the past 4 years I've been madly in love with someone who, to put it lightly, hates my very existence. His name's Reggie, he's the "bully" at my college. Now I'm a bit of a wuss. Well, a totla wuss actually. It's pathetic. I'm short, scrawny and can't fight to save my life. Reggie is taller than me, stronger than me and much hotter than me.

It's gotten to the point where I'm actually willing to have him kick the living shit out of me on a regular basis because even any attention at all from this dude, even violent attention, really gets me going. I know, masochist, right?

So how do I get the hell over this dude!?

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    If you are male, seek out your colleges LGBT or GSA. No matter your orientation you need some counciling.

    Edit: Wait, really? You have people at your college who beat other people up? Or was that more of a tounge in cheek "look what I'm willing to do!" type comment?

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  • EriosErios Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I think (hope/pray) the OP is using the European definition of college. As in what we would call high school.

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  • The Man With No FaceThe Man With No Face __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Erios wrote: »
    I think (hope/pray) the OP is using the European definition of college. As in what we would call high school.
    Yeah. I'm from UK

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm not familiar with European gay support groups, but find one.
    Are you out?

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  • 69Taicho6969Taicho69 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    My answer would be to find another guy to crush on or even go out with. Find someone else and it'll take your mind of Reggie. Cause he sounds like a total asshole!

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  • The Man With No FaceThe Man With No Face __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm not out. And Reggie's the only guy I've ever had feeling for. I only know I'm gay because of him and how I feel about him

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  • necroSYSnecroSYS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2009
    It's important to mention that you aren't in love with this guy, you're infatuated with him.

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  • psycojesterpsycojester Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Congrats you've developed Stockholm syndrome?

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  • BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm not out. And Reggie's the only guy I've ever had feeling for. I only know I'm gay because of him and how I feel about him

    Two questions; did your feelings for him start before or after the bullying, and have you been attracted (not had feelings) towards any other men?

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  • The Man With No FaceThe Man With No Face __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Burnage wrote: »
    I'm not out. And Reggie's the only guy I've ever had feeling for. I only know I'm gay because of him and how I feel about him

    Two questions; did your feelings for him start before or after the bullying, and have you been attracted (not had feelings) towards any other men?
    Before. Then again I only saw him once before he suddenly turned into the bullying jackass he is. And on rare occasions I've had a slight attraction towards other guys. But it's only been a "damn he's pretty hot" sort of passing thought. It never lasted like it has with Reggie

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  • ED!ED! Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I also think the pertinent question is, is REGGIE gay as well. Because if hes not, well then you add a whole 'nother layer of "not cool" to an already distressing situation.

    As someone said, this is infatuation compounded by a bit of "we want what we can't have". "Love" has got nothing to do with this.

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  • The Man With No FaceThe Man With No Face __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    ED! wrote: »
    I also think the pertinent question is, is REGGIE gay as well. Because if hes not, well then you add a whole 'nother layer of "not cool" to an already distressing situation.

    As someone said, this is infatuation compounded by a bit of "we want what we can't have". "Love" has got nothing to do with this.
    I have no clue in hell if he is or not. Unsurprisingly he doesn't discuss his sexual orientation with his punching bags.

    Regardless of its love or infatuation, how do I go about getting over the bastard?

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm not out. And Reggie's the only guy I've ever had feeling for. I only know I'm gay because of him and how I feel about him

    If you're not out, why did you post this in another thread?
    It can't ever work. I've been in a similar situation. Dated a guy for 6 months while for all that time he was also dating my best mate. Even worse sicne I knew he was doing it.

    I'm getting a BS signal from this thread, like that guy who was going to let some other guy pay him money just to be single or something a few months back.

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  • The Man With No FaceThe Man With No Face __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    TexiKen wrote: »
    I'm not out. And Reggie's the only guy I've ever had feeling for. I only know I'm gay because of him and how I feel about him

    If you're not out, why did you post this in another thread?
    It can't ever work. I've been in a similar situation. Dated a guy for 6 months while for all that time he was also dating my best mate. Even worse sicne I knew he was doing it.

    I'm getting a BS signal from this thread, like that guy who was going to let some other guy pay him money just to be single or something a few months back.
    That was a mate's problem. I just wrote it down. Couldn't tell you why I said it was me

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  • 69Taicho6969Taicho69 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    TexiKen wrote: »
    I'm not out. And Reggie's the only guy I've ever had feeling for. I only know I'm gay because of him and how I feel about him

    If you're not out, why did you post this in another thread?
    It can't ever work. I've been in a similar situation. Dated a guy for 6 months while for all that time he was also dating my best mate. Even worse sicne I knew he was doing it.

    I'm getting a BS signal from this thread, like that guy who was going to let some other guy pay him money just to be single or something a few months back.
    That was a mate's problem. I just wrote it down. Couldn't tell you why I said it was me
    Bollocks. Not buying it. Where's my broom? I call shenanegans!

    But if I'm wrong and that is your mate's problem and his one is yours, I'd definitely do as Improvalone says. Find some support group somewhere. And if Reggie beats you up as much as it sounds like, you might want to make sure he doesn't find out your in a gay support group. Bullies like that use any ammo they can get against you

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  • DragonPupDragonPup Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    No matter your orientation you need some counciling.

    You need serious professional help if you are in love with someone who not only hates you, but also beats you up.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2009
    Avoid him.

    This solves all of your problems.

    Hell, get him expelled so you don't have to gaze at his dreamy face whilst he breaks your jaw every day.

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  • The Man With No FaceThe Man With No Face __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    DragonPup wrote: »
    No matter your orientation you need some counciling.

    You need serious professional help if you are in love with someone who not only hates you, but also beats you up.
    I'm hoping you don't meen seeing a therapist. I don't need to pay someone to tell me what I already know; I'm a fucked up masochist. That's all there is to me.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    You really need to talk to a professional (counselor/therapist/whatever) because it sounds like you are comfortable with such negative and self-abusive behavior.

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  • The Man With No FaceThe Man With No Face __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    You really need to talk to a professional (counselor/therapist/whatever) because it sounds like you are comfortable with such negative and self-abusive behavior.
    I'm not comfortable with it, I'm just used to it. And it's not self-abusive. I'm not beating myself up, he does it.

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Yeah, but you said earlier that, and I quote,
    It's gotten to the point where I'm actually willing to have him kick the living shit out of me on a regular basis because even any attention at all from this dude

    So... if you're willing to let this happen, just cause you're infatuated, then that's self abuse as well. Self abuse isn't just you cutting, or punching yourself in the face, you know. It's also letting things happen to you, and not doing a damn thing about it, and just taking it.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Maybe not "self abusive" but certainly self-destructive. I retract my previous diagnosis.

    And if you aren't comfortable with whats going on in your life... why not take steps to change those things?

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  • DragonPupDragonPup Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    DragonPup wrote: »
    No matter your orientation you need some counciling.

    You need serious professional help if you are in love with someone who not only hates you, but also beats you up.
    I'm hoping you don't meen seeing a therapist. I don't need to pay someone to tell me what I already know; I'm a fucked up masochist. That's all there is to me.

    If it is not this jerkoff, it'll be some other jerkoff next time. There's councillors out there who specialize in this sort of dysfunction that can really help you become more normal but only if you want to be helped.

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    You're in a very dangerous place if you're letting it go that far. Masochism is perfectly acceptable but you have to understand when its appropriate and be responsible enough to say no if its a bad situation. And you're completely disregarding the fact this dude has NO IDEA that's what's going on, so you've taken the option of informed consent away from him.

    I strongly suggest you speak with someone about how to act on your desires in a healthy manner.

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  • The Man With No FaceThe Man With No Face __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Maybe not "self abusive" but certainly self-destructive. I retract my previous diagnosis.

    And if you aren't comfortable with whats going on in your life... why not take steps to change those things?
    Cause in a few weeks college'll be finished and I'll never see him again. So then it won't matter cause he won't be around and I won't be getting the crap beaten out of me anymore.

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  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Maybe not "self abusive" but certainly self-destructive. I retract my previous diagnosis.

    And if you aren't comfortable with whats going on in your life... why not take steps to change those things?
    Cause in a few weeks college'll be finished and I'll never see him again. So then it won't matter cause he won't be around and I won't be getting the crap beaten out of me anymore.
    Ok, then what advice do you actually want?

    My advice is "run."

    You can keep that up for a few weeks.

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  • The Man With No FaceThe Man With No Face __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Six wrote: »
    Maybe not "self abusive" but certainly self-destructive. I retract my previous diagnosis.

    And if you aren't comfortable with whats going on in your life... why not take steps to change those things?
    Cause in a few weeks college'll be finished and I'll never see him again. So then it won't matter cause he won't be around and I won't be getting the crap beaten out of me anymore.
    Ok, then what advice do you actually want?

    My advice is "run."

    You can keep that up for a few weeks.
    Run as in physically run away or run as in avoid him? Either one can't be done. He's faster than me by a lot, and it's sort of impossible to avoid him cause the fucker seems to be everywhere

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  • 69Taicho6969Taicho69 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Even if you aren't going to see him again, you still need some help here. It might not be this dude but if you don't get help with how to manage you're masochistic desires you'll end up getting into the same situation again and again and again.

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  • The Man With No FaceThe Man With No Face __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    69Taicho69 wrote: »
    Even if you aren't going to see him again, you still need some help here. It might not be this dude but if you don't get help with how to manage you're masochistic desires you'll end up getting into the same situation again and again and again.
    Maybe I should change the title of this thread to "curing masochism issues".

    And wait, masochism is a bad thing?

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  • 69Taicho6969Taicho69 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    69Taicho69 wrote: »
    Even if you aren't going to see him again, you still need some help here. It might not be this dude but if you don't get help with how to manage you're masochistic desires you'll end up getting into the same situation again and again and again.
    Maybe I should change the title of this thread to "curing masochism issues".

    And wait, masochism is a bad thing?

    No it's not a bad thing in resonable concentrations. Letting a bully kick the shit out of you every day is a bit on the bad/extreme side of masochism

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  • ShawnaseeShawnasee Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    This whole thread is weird.

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  • 69Taicho6969Taicho69 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    This whole thread is weird.
    Tell me about it. This dude is clearly either trolling or is just very, very scatter-brained

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  • The Man With No FaceThe Man With No Face __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    69Taicho69 wrote: »
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    This whole thread is weird.
    Tell me about it. This dude is clearly either trolling or is just very, very scatter-brained
    If I was gonna troll you think I'd make up something that makes me seem so pathetic?

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  • BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    69Taicho69 wrote: »
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    This whole thread is weird.
    Tell me about it. This dude is clearly either trolling or is just very, very scatter-brained
    If I was gonna troll you think I'd make up something that makes me seem so pathetic?

    ... said the self-declared masochist.

    Just stay away from the dude, realise you're not in love with him, and find a healthier way to fulfill your desires.

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  • The Man With No FaceThe Man With No Face __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Burnage wrote: »
    69Taicho69 wrote: »
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    This whole thread is weird.
    Tell me about it. This dude is clearly either trolling or is just very, very scatter-brained
    If I was gonna troll you think I'd make up something that makes me seem so pathetic?

    ... said the self-declared masochist.

    Just stay away from the dude, realise you're not in love with him, and find a healthier way to fulfill your desires.
    Is there a healthy way to fulfill an unhealthy desire? I'd always been told masochism is severely bad

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  • BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Is there a healthy way to fulfill an unhealthy desire? I'd always been told masochism is severely bad

    Define 'healthy'. Sadomasochism in a sexual context is relatively common, and as long as all persons involved give informed consent I'd question whether it could justifiably be labelled as 'bad'. It's only a problem if your desires are actually causing you distress or otherwise interfering with your day to day life.

    Right now it seems like they are. Step one is to get Reggie out of your life.

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  • The Man With No FaceThe Man With No Face __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Burnage wrote: »
    Is there a healthy way to fulfill an unhealthy desire? I'd always been told masochism is severely bad

    Define 'healthy'. Sadomasochism in a sexual context is relatively common, and as long as all persons involved give informed consent I'd question whether it could justifiably be labelled as 'bad'. It's only a problem if your desires are actually causing you distress or otherwise interfering with your day to day life.

    Right now it seems like they are. Step one is to get Reggie out of your life.
    He's sort of hard to avoid. I never saw it as much of an issue but I'll try much harder to stay out of his way from now on.

    And in terms of fulfilling the masochistic stuff, I don't know a lot of people willing to do sadomasochist shit with a guy that looks more 14 than 17.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    You're looking for someone to treat you like shit.
    That is bad.

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  • The Man With No FaceThe Man With No Face __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    You're looking for someone to treat you like shit.
    That is bad.
    That's what I've always been like that. Most kids play-wrestled because it's fun and insane. I used to do it knowing I'd lose because even when I didn't know what was up with me I used to find it oddly satisfying to be pinned rougly to the ground with my mate sat on me.

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  • 69Taicho6969Taicho69 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    You're looking for someone to treat you like shit.
    That is bad.
    That's what I've always been like that. Most kids play-wrestled because it's fun and insane. I used to do it knowing I'd lose because even when I didn't know what was up with me I used to find it oddly satisfying to be pinned rougly to the ground with my mate sat on me.

    Nobody's saying that masochism in itself is bad, it's just letting some guy beat you to shit every day is bad. See the distinction? Masochism as a sexual practise in sexual context = OK. Letting a jackass bully punch you into pudding = bad.

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