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'Outer Space' is wild and scary

Drew-BDrew-B Registered User regular
edited July 2009 in Social Entropy++
I could go on for days upon days about our crazy universe. But to keep things relatively brief, lets start with some nice and vague superlatives. I will now ramble on a bit like a child...because that's exactly what space turns me into. A gushing child.

So what's the biggest star we've found? VY Canis Majoris, of course.
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Want a massive image to better show the scale? (Seriously, don't click this)
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And here's our little earth shown next to our little sun

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What about the largest planet? Why it's little ol' HAT-P-1. But get this, it revolves around its star once every 4.5 earth-days. That's crazy!

Crappy scaling image (It's about 1.4x the size of Jupiter. I'm not sure about the validity of this image):
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Here's one of those Youtube we've all already seen that shows "Oh look how insignificant we are." But still, I remain pretty mesmerized, myself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FwCMnyWZDg

But this stuff is all so far away, who gives a shit? Well, if you feel that way, and you're tired of hearing about Mercury, Venus and so on, there's always the ~166 GODDAMN MOONS in our own solar system.
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~166! Hell, a lot of them are just as interesting, if not more so, than the nine orbiting bodies we've come to know and love.

One of these moons you've probably heard or read about, Jupiter's Io, has over 400 active volcanoes!

Another little factoid about another thing you've probably heard about. The Olympus Mons on Mars, the planet's largest mountain, is 15 miles high! It's our solar system's largest volcano.
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You know what else is neat? Neutron stars.
These interesting objects are born from once-large stars that grew to four to eight times the size of our own sun before exploding in catastrophic supernovae. After such an explosion blows a star's outer layers into space, the core remains—but it no longer produces nuclear fusion. With no outward pressure from fusion to counterbalance gravity's inward pull, the star condenses and collapses in upon itself.

Despite their small diameters—about 12.5 miles (20 kilometers)—neutron stars boast nearly 1.5 times the mass of our sun, and are thus incredibly dense. Just a sugar cube of neutron star matter would weigh about one hundred million tons on Earth.

On that note, that should be some stuff to get started. Honestly guys, this stuff is fascinating. Share some stuff 'bout good old outer space. I will read it and enjoy it.

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  • Cold Salmon and HatredCold Salmon and Hatred __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
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  • AMP'dAMP'd Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Oh, Usagi is busy being at the Boston thing

    Bad timing

    Anyway, like I was telling you, Castor is a sextuple star. The primary system is a binary system made up of two smaller binary systems. And, acting as an eclipsing binary, another binary star system

    Six stars!

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  • QuestionMarkManQuestionMarkMan Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    HOLY SHIT LOOK AT THAT STAR

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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    What happened to our other two science threads?

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  • ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    They are insignificant compared to this thread.

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  • AMP'dAMP'd Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Don't go trying to hunt down the full-size image of the hexagonal rotating storm on the top of Saturn

    It'll crash your browser

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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    WHAT'S THAT, YOU SAY?


    HUBBLE SITE GALLERY?

    DON'T MIND IF I DO:

    http://hubblesite.org/gallery/

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  • Drew-BDrew-B Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I read a great book on (at least partially) what would theoretically happen if you were to watch from a magical spaceship as someone approaches a black hole and enters past the even horizon.

    Shit is absolutely crazy. The real kicker is what happens when they approach the point where the light they're reflecting (What allows us to see them) gets to a point where it's unable to escape the pull of the black hole, and you begin to see a ghost image of him/her, even long after they're gone. That, and Spaghettification.

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  • AMP'dAMP'd Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Saturn also has a hot spot on its south pole

    Saturn_polar_vortex.jpg

    Hypothesis: Saturn is actually a giant gun that sucks in matter at the north pole and fires it from the south pole

    Or: Saturn is our solar system's jet engine

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  • MetroidZoidMetroidZoid Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Drew-B wrote: »
    ... there's always the ~166 GODDAMN MOONS in our own solar system.

    Gotta Catch 'em All!

    I'm gonna be, the very best ...

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  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    sometimes when i think about black holes for more than a few seconds my brain starts to defrag

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  • TamTam Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Our Universe: So big that Douglas Adams thought up a weapon that could kill you by comparing its size to you.

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  • Drew-BDrew-B Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    potatoe wrote: »
    sometimes when i think about black holes for more than a few seconds my brain starts to defrag

    I do the same when I simply think of the fact that there are ~100 billion stars estimated to be in our galaxy alone...then there's the whole hundreds of billions of galaxies thing.

    Then I wonder how weird it would be between galaxies. Talk about a void.

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  • ZephyrZephyr Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    reminder: it's been 27 years since the last moon landing, and we won't be back (assuming delays don't happen) until 37 years after

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  • LordaenLordaen Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Voids are probably pretty boring things.

    But who knows! Maybe that's where the space pterodactyls live.

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  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    ~$ [brain] has disconnected, press any key to continue
    ~$

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  • DrIanMalcolmDrIanMalcolm Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    When VY Canis Majoris dies, it will die as a core-collapse supernova or even a hyper-nova depending on it's mass and composition. It's huge size does not necessarily mean it will explode as a hyper-nova and give rise to a gamma ray burst when some or all of the star becomes a black hole. Even so, it's much more likely to explode as a core-collapse supernova that will produce a neutron star or a black hole depending on what happens when it's core is converted into iron. When that happens, the outer layers will initially be ejected back into space at speeds of 5,000 miles per second or more, and the wreckage will outshine the entire galaxy for weeks or months. If VY Canis Majoris had any planets, they would be at the minimum ejected into space due to the sudden loss of 90 percent or more of the star's mass back to space. Their atmospheres and surface water if present would be flash boiled away into space, and likely their surfaces would melt from being hit with billions of times more energy than they received before. It's indeed possible they would simply be vaporized in the explosion. If there are any life bearing planets within a few light years of VY Canis Majoris when it blows, all life would be destroyed. Any inhabited planets within 30 or 50 light years of the explosion will either be sterilized or suffer severe mass extinctions due to the massive blast of gamma and x-rays disrupting the ozone layer. Dangerous, even deadly doses of radiation will kill or injure any complex, multi-cellular life forms but single cell microbes can withstand radiation fields that would instantly kill humans and most other higher forms of life. Star systems farther away would be exposed to much more ionizing radiation and cosmic rays, which would induce mutations and leave traces in the soil, ice sheets and oceans, but would not trigger wide spread die offs of species wholesale. From several hundred light years away, VY Canis Majoris' demise would be no threat to a habitable planet, but a bonanza for astronomers interested in the lives and deaths of stars and how they made our own existence possible. If however, VY Canis Majoris is massive enough and has the right composition to explode as a hyper-nova, the resulting gamma ray burst will destroy life on planets caught in the jets spat out by the newly born black hole thousands of light years away. These jets form along the doomed star's axis of rotation, and are highly focused like laser beams. If an inhabited planet is not in the way, it would survive unharmed unless it was in close proximity to the supernova. A planet or life on that planet caught in the jet is doomed. Planets within a 100 light years would melt or vaporize from the jet's onslaught, which are composed of high energy plasma moving at nearly the speed of light.They are nature's ultimate death ray, much like the Death Star out of the Star Wars movies.

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  • Drew-BDrew-B Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Lordaen wrote: »
    Voids are probably pretty boring things.

    But who knows! Maybe that's where the space pterodactyls live.

    That's just it. Complete emptiness. No stars. No light reflection.

    I'm pretty sure you could be standing an inch away from me and I would see pitch black.

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  • AMP'dAMP'd Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    The good news is that even if VY Canis Majoris ends up as a gamma ray burst, the odds are astronomical that the offending rays will hit Earth

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  • TamTam Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    How far away is it? Maybe it already did, eh?

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  • FalloutFallout ( ๑‾̀◡‾́)σ" Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    space is amazing and probably my favorite thing

    i am sad that i will never get to see a star explode or a galaxy crash or anything like that

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  • DrIanMalcolmDrIanMalcolm Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    It's 4,900 light years away from Earth

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  • Cold Salmon and HatredCold Salmon and Hatred __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Zephyr wrote: »
    reminder: it's been 27 years since the last moon landing, and we won't be back (assuming delays don't happen) until 37 years after

    off by 10 years there

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  • ZephyrZephyr Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    yeah woops

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  • AMP'dAMP'd Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    AMP'd wrote: »
    The good news is that even if VY Canis Majoris ends up as a gamma ray burst, the odds are astronomical that the offending rays will hit Earth
    heh

    I was considering adding italics

    There's a reason we say the odds are astronomical

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  • TamTam Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    It's 4,900 light years away from Earth

    well that's a little close

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  • Drew-BDrew-B Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    It's 4,900 light years away from Earth

    Which means, when it blows, we won't know about until 4,900 years later.

    It's amazing to think that when you look up at a star, and that star is 30 light years away, you're looking at an image of that star from 1979.

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  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    the shoopdawoop star

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  • Cold Salmon and HatredCold Salmon and Hatred __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    pretty pumped about getting into aerospace engineering now

    exciting time

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  • DrIanMalcolmDrIanMalcolm Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    As awesome as space is, fuck it's terrifying

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  • LordaenLordaen Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Space is pretty god damned awesome, and I hate you people for making these types of threads.

    I'll just be here looking at the pretty pictures, maybe reading about some fancy star, and someone links to Wikipedia and I have no choice but to spend the rest of my day there.

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  • JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    My favorite astronomy/physics wet dream: the next major paradigm shift in physics results in a Unified Theory that perfectly predicts all observed phenomena, except that it completely eliminates any natural mechanism for novas and supernovas.

    The day after the theory is published, we lose an entire generation of astronomers to a near-terminal case of the heebie jeebies.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    hubble deep field scan

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  • FugitiveFugitive Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Drew-B wrote: »
    It's 4,900 light years away from Earth

    Which means, when it blows, we won't know about until 4,900 years later.

    It's amazing to think that when you look up at a star, and that star is 30 light years away, you're looking at an image of that star from 1979.

    This also means, if it blows, and a gamma ray burst is heading towards us

    We would have 4900 years to evacuate?

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    that assumes the gamma ray burst is travelling at c which i don't think is the case (????)

    just below

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  • FugitiveFugitive Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    which are composed of high energy plasma moving at nearly the speed of light

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  • redheadredhead Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Fugitive wrote: »
    Drew-B wrote: »
    It's 4,900 light years away from Earth

    Which means, when it blows, we won't know about until 4,900 years later.

    It's amazing to think that when you look up at a star, and that star is 30 light years away, you're looking at an image of that star from 1979.

    This also means, if it blows, and a gamma ray burst is heading towards us

    We would have 4900 years to evacuate?

    only if we magically found out it had blown up through like telepathy or something

    but probably we would find out it had blown up 4,900 years after the fact and be gamma rayed to death in the same moment

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