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Johnny does Whatshername (Sen. Ensign has an affair. Blackmail involved)
Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) acknowledged Tuesday that he had “violated the vows†of marriage by having an affair with a campaign staffer.
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Some time later, a Nevada source said, Ensign met with the husband of the woman involved and had what this source described as a positive encounter. Sources said that the man subsequently asked Ensign for a substantial sum of money — at which point Ensign decided to make the affair public.
Ensign did not provide specifics about the affair Tuesday, nor did he identify the woman involved, except to say that she and her husband “were close friends, and both of them worked for me.â€
Oh snap!
Just watched the video of him admitting it is the now standard prop-wife (her name is Darlene, and I don't know why I find that funny).
A born-again Christian, Ensign has been a member of the Promise Keepers, a male evangelical group that promotes marital fidelity.
Top that, Onion News.
So, I know jack shit about Nevada, and want someone to give me the breakdown on how it might play out. It seems that he has plenty of time to work this out before the next election.
I don't know, Sigmund could be a damn entertaining fellow when he was hopped up on coke.
As for Sen. Ensign, considering he comes from a state with legalized prostitution and the largest center of gambling in the United States, I doubt it'll harm his image with the voting public there too much.
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No matter where you go...there you are. ~ Buckaroo Banzai
From the article it sounds like he was separated from his wife at the time, and had been for several months. When he reconciled with his wife he immediately broke things off with the woman, and fired her with a severance package.
I think the only thing that he really needed to say was "We were on a break."
Nevada's Senators have to make that state proud. Harry Reid and this jackass.
Also moniker: to reinforce that, have you ever heard this story?
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The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
As for Sen. Ensign, considering he comes from a state with legalized prostitution and the largest center of gambling in the United States, I doubt it'll harm his image with the voting public there too much.
Voters can forgive a lot of sins, but the one that always tends to stick is hypocrisy. If he wasn't part of that Promise Keepers thing I'd say you'd probably be right, but this might stick now because of it. Of course, he isn't up next, Reid is, so by the time his seat rolls around it might be too old to drag up.
Nevada's Senators have to make that state proud. Harry Reid and this jackass.
Also moniker: to reinforce that, have you ever heard this story?
There are endless cavalcades of sex between politicians and staffers/interns/pages. It seems like DC is, as a city, simultaneously sexually repressed and extremely kinky.
Promise Keepers promotes marital fidelity but it's not about marital fidelity. It's just your basic giant inspirational conference for male protestants.
Promise Keepers promotes marital fidelity but it's not about marital fidelity. It's just your basic giant inspirational conference for male protestants.
Still, when will politicians realize that people tend to hate holier than thou bullshit like that? Nobody's gonna care if you fuck around and are an Elk or a Lion or part of the Key Club.
Hmm. Break or not, it's still cheating if you're still legally married.
Separated people are legally married. FYI.
Oh I know, that's what I mean.
Legal separation (sometimes "judicial separation", "separate maintenance", "divorce a mensa et thoro" or "divorce from bed-and-board") is a legal process by which a married couple may formalise a de facto separation whilst remaining legally married. A couple may obtain a legal separation, as an alternative to divorce, based on moral or religious objections to divorce.
It's not cheating if they're separated. That's what I meant.
The best part is that this was one of the guys calling for Clinton's balls on a platter after the Lewinsky thing hit the news.
It's like these people are addicted to hypocrisy.
That was 11 years ago. You can't call someone a hypocrite because their life views changed in 11 years.
If Detharin is right, he'll probably get away scot-free. As he should, if Deth is right.
So it's only hypocrisy if you're advocating against an action while you are actually doing it? Because I think you'd be amazed at the number of people who suddenly had an enlightened change of heart about something just moments before they got caught.
The best part is that this was one of the guys calling for Clinton's balls on a platter after the Lewinsky thing hit the news.
It's like these people are addicted to hypocrisy.
That was 11 years ago. You can't call someone a hypocrite because their life views changed in 11 years.
If Detharin is right, he'll probably get away scot-free. As he should, if Deth is right.
So it's only hypocrisy if you're advocating against an action while you are actually doing it? Because I think you'd be amazed at the number of people who suddenly had an enlightened change of heart about something just moments before they got caught.
What the?
Guy bashes the president for having an affair with an intern. Don't see anything bad about that, pretty much the entire world bashed him.
Guy that is separated from his wife/taking a break from his wife meets woman, sparks fly, he sleeps with her. Don't see anything wrong with that, either.
If he's a hypocrite for anything, it's this:
When former Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho) was arrested in an airport men’s room in the summer of 2007, Ensign was among Craig’s toughest critics, saying Craig should step down because he had been charged with a crime.
“I wouldn’t put myself, hopefully, in that kind of position, but if I was in a position like that, that’s what I would do,†Ensign told The Associated Press at the time.
The best part is that this was one of the guys calling for Clinton's balls on a platter after the Lewinsky thing hit the news.
It's like these people are addicted to hypocrisy.
That was 11 years ago. You can't call someone a hypocrite because their life views changed in 11 years.
If Detharin is right, he'll probably get away scot-free. As he should, if Deth is right.
So it's only hypocrisy if you're advocating against an action while you are actually doing it? Because I think you'd be amazed at the number of people who suddenly had an enlightened change of heart about something just moments before they got caught.
What the?
Guy bashes the president for having an affair with an intern. Don't see anything bad about that, pretty much the entire world bashed him.
Guy that is separated from his wife/taking a break from his wife meets woman, sparks fly, he sleeps with her. Don't see anything wrong with that, either.
Personally I don't care who he puts his dick into, but apparently he thinks (or thought) that I should. And people shouldn't be held to an arbitrary standard, they should be held to their own. His standard is that public officials should not be having extramarital affairs with members of their staff. He then went and had an extramarital affair with a member of his staff. Now, if you have any evidence that he did publicly change his mind at any point between Lewinsky and last week that's one thing. If he only had a change of heart once he's the one that got caught it's quite another.
If he's a hypocrite for anything, it's this:
When former Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho) was arrested in an airport men’s room in the summer of 2007, Ensign was among Craig’s toughest critics, saying Craig should step down because he had been charged with a crime.
“I wouldn’t put myself, hopefully, in that kind of position, but if I was in a position like that, that’s what I would do,” Ensign told The Associated Press at the time.
The best part is that this was one of the guys calling for Clinton's balls on a platter after the Lewinsky thing hit the news.
It's like these people are addicted to hypocrisy.
That was 11 years ago. You can't call someone a hypocrite because their life views changed in 11 years.
If Detharin is right, he'll probably get away scot-free. As he should, if Deth is right.
So it's only hypocrisy if you're advocating against an action while you are actually doing it? Because I think you'd be amazed at the number of people who suddenly had an enlightened change of heart about something just moments before they got caught.
What the?
Guy bashes the president for having an affair with an intern. Don't see anything bad about that, pretty much the entire world bashed him.
Guy that is separated from his wife/taking a break from his wife meets woman, sparks fly, he sleeps with her. Don't see anything wrong with that, either.
Personally I don't care who he puts his dick into, but apparently he does. And people shouldn't be held to an arbitrary standard, they should be held to their own. His standard is that public officials should not be having extramarital affairs with members of their staff. He then went and had an extramarital affair with a member of his staff. Now, if you have any evidence that he did publicly change his mind at any point between Lewinsky and last week that's one thing. If he only had a change of heart once he's the one that got caught it's quite another.
If he's a hypocrite for anything, it's this:
When former Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho) was arrested in an airport men’s room in the summer of 2007, Ensign was among Craig’s toughest critics, saying Craig should step down because he had been charged with a crime.
“I wouldn’t put myself, hopefully, in that kind of position, but if I was in a position like that, that’s what I would do,†Ensign told The Associated Press at the time.
Personally I don't care who he puts his dick into, but apparently he does. And people shouldn't be held to an arbitrary standard, they should be held to their own. His standard is that public officials should not be having extramarital affairs with members of their staff. He then went and had an extramarital affair with a member of his staff. Now, if you have any evidence that he did publicly change his mind at any point between Lewinsky and last week that's one thing. If he only had a change of heart once he's the one that got caught it's quite another.
Therein lies our problem. I don't think the president, who's supposed to be a role-model for hundreds of millions of people, and a senator, are on par.
What the president does impacts everything from public trust in the government to foreign affairs (at the very least least with religious zealot nutjob-led countries).
It's not the same thing if Clinton does it or some senator does it in my book, but apparently it is in yours. We'll just have to agree to disagree. And I don't think he ever mentioned that public officials shouldn't be having extramarital affairs, I think it was just a pet peeve about what Clinton did.
Sure, it's a double-standard (President does it, it's bad; senator does it, no biggie), but it doesn't make him a hypocrite in my book. The fact that he more than likely won't step down, though, does.
Couple that with the fact that we don't know if they were legally separated or not, and we have too many variables for anyone to be able to say anything conclusive about it lest they know the senator.
Personally I don't care who he puts his dick into, but apparently he does. And people shouldn't be held to an arbitrary standard, they should be held to their own. His standard is that public officials should not be having extramarital affairs with members of their staff. He then went and had an extramarital affair with a member of his staff. Now, if you have any evidence that he did publicly change his mind at any point between Lewinsky and last week that's one thing. If he only had a change of heart once he's the one that got caught it's quite another.
Therein lies our problem. I don't think the president, who's supposed to be a role-model for hundreds of millions of people, and a senator, are on par.
What the president does impacts everything from public trust in the government to foreign affairs (at the very least least with religious zealot nutjob-led countries).
It's not the same thing if Clinton does it or some senator does it in my book, but apparently it is in yours. We'll just have to agree to disagree. And I don't think he ever mentioned that public officials shouldn't be having extramarital affairs, I think it was just a pet peeve about what Clinton did.
Sure, it's a double-standard (President does it, it's bad; senator does it, no biggie), but it doesn't make him a hypocrite in my book. The fact that he more than likely won't step down, though, does.
Couple that with the fact that we don't know if they were legally separated or not, and we have too many variables for anyone to be able to say anything conclusive about it lest they know the senator.
Public Official #1 uses the condemnation of Public Official #2 for Act X as a campaign plank.
Public Official #1 commits Act X.
Public Official #1 is a hypocrite.
Personally I don't care who he puts his dick into, but apparently he does. And people shouldn't be held to an arbitrary standard, they should be held to their own. His standard is that public officials should not be having extramarital affairs with members of their staff. He then went and had an extramarital affair with a member of his staff. Now, if you have any evidence that he did publicly change his mind at any point between Lewinsky and last week that's one thing. If he only had a change of heart once he's the one that got caught it's quite another.
Therein lies our problem. I don't think the president, who's supposed to be a role-model for hundreds of millions of people, and a senator, are on par.
What the president does impacts everything from public trust in the government to foreign affairs (at the very least least with religious zealot nutjob-led countries).
It's not the same thing if Clinton does it or some senator does it in my book, but apparently it is in yours. We'll just have to agree to disagree. And I don't think he ever mentioned that public officials shouldn't be having extramarital affairs, I think it was just a pet peeve about what Clinton did.
Sure, it's a double-standard (President does it, it's bad; senator does it, no biggie), but it doesn't make him a hypocrite in my book. The fact that he more than likely won't step down, though, does.
Couple that with the fact that we don't know if they were legally separated or not, and we have too many variables for anyone to be able to say anything conclusive about it lest they know the senator.
Public Official #1 uses the condemnation of Public Official #2 for Act X as a campaign plank.
Public Official #1 commits Act X.
Public Official #1 is a hypocrite.
Are you blind, or just suffering from acute selective readism? Limed for you.
"There's too many people that paint with a broad brush that we're all corrupt, we're all amoral," he said. "And having these kinds of things happen, whether it's a Republican or Democratic senator — we certainly have had plenty of Democratic scandals in the past — we need people who are in office who will hold themselves to a little higher standard."
He has run on a "family values" plank. He's a hypocrite, its obvious and its a story that comes out more than once a year.
Personally I don't care who he puts his dick into, but apparently he does. And people shouldn't be held to an arbitrary standard, they should be held to their own. His standard is that public officials should not be having extramarital affairs with members of their staff. He then went and had an extramarital affair with a member of his staff. Now, if you have any evidence that he did publicly change his mind at any point between Lewinsky and last week that's one thing. If he only had a change of heart once he's the one that got caught it's quite another.
Therein lies our problem. I don't think the president, who's supposed to be a role-model for hundreds of millions of people, and a senator, are on par.
What the president does impacts everything from public trust in the government to foreign affairs (at the very least least with religious zealot nutjob-led countries).
It's not the same thing if Clinton does it or some senator does it in my book, but apparently it is in yours. We'll just have to agree to disagree. And I don't think he ever mentioned that public officials shouldn't be having extramarital affairs, I think it was just a pet peeve about what Clinton did.
Sure, it's a double-standard (President does it, it's bad; senator does it, no biggie), but it doesn't make him a hypocrite in my book. The fact that he more than likely won't step down, though, does.
Couple that with the fact that we don't know if they were legally separated or not, and we have too many variables for anyone to be able to say anything conclusive about it lest they know the senator.
Public Official #1 uses the condemnation of Public Official #2 for Act X as a campaign plank.
Public Official #1 commits Act X.
Public Official #1 is a hypocrite.
Are you blind, or just suffering from acute selective readism? Limed for you.
Reading comprehension, not everyone has it.
And I'm saying you're wrong. The local dog catcher can be just as much of a hypocrite as the president of the United States if they say one thing and do another. It's not relative to personal importance.
Ensign was also not legally separated so that's irrelevant(nor is that the normal usage of the term).
Really? Pray tell, what is the normal usage of the term "legal separation", if not the label applied to a couple that is still legally married, but can do each whatever they want with whoever they want?
"There's too many people that paint with a broad brush that we're all corrupt, we're all amoral," he said. "And having these kinds of things happen, whether it's a Republican or Democratic senator — we certainly have had plenty of Democratic scandals in the past — we need people who are in office who will hold themselves to a little higher standard."
He has run on a "family values" plank. He's a hypocrite, its obvious and its a story that comes out more than once a year.
Another sufferer of ASR. I never said he's not a hypocrite, I said he's not a hypocrite for bashing Clinton during the Lewinski scandal.
I'm going to get myself an ASR awareness bracelet now.
And I'm saying you're wrong, Zed. Our arguments hold just about as much water. You think that who Tim the gardener sleeps with has the potential to shape international policy-making, I don't.
Well regardless of what the senators marital status was, wasn't the woman he was fucking also married? So shouldn't he have respected the sanctitity of his friends marriage?
Preacher on
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Well regardless of what the senators marital status was, wasn't the woman he was fucking also married? So shouldn't he have respected the sanctitity of his friends marriage?
Sure. Unless the guy is a dickweed who's trying to blackmail a US senator, after he was all chummy with him after said senator slept with dickweed's wife.
Ok so its ok to cheat if the guys wife you are fucking plans to blackmail you afterward. Man I need to read the bible over again because these religious types have so many outs.
Preacher on
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
And I'm saying you're wrong, Zed. Our arguments hold just about as much water. You think that who Tim the gardener sleeps with has the potential to shape international policy-making, I don't.
Your argument boils down to a combination of "only important people have to practice what they preach" and "United States Senators aren't important people."
You'll excuse me if I find that silly on multiple fronts.
Well regardless of what the senators marital status was, wasn't the woman he was fucking also married? So shouldn't he have respected the sanctitity of his friends marriage?
Sure. Unless the guy is a dickweed who's trying to blackmail a US senator, after he was all chummy with him after said senator slept with dickweed's wife.
Errm, what? So the senator's thought process was "This guy seems like a dickweed who will try to blackmail people; I'll screw his wife, that'll show him!"?
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I'm guessing I should stock up on condoms before I leave.
Way better than Sigmund.
I don't know, Sigmund could be a damn entertaining fellow when he was hopped up on coke.
As for Sen. Ensign, considering he comes from a state with legalized prostitution and the largest center of gambling in the United States, I doubt it'll harm his image with the voting public there too much.
~ Buckaroo Banzai
I think the only thing that he really needed to say was "We were on a break."
Also moniker: to reinforce that, have you ever heard this story?
Voters can forgive a lot of sins, but the one that always tends to stick is hypocrisy. If he wasn't part of that Promise Keepers thing I'd say you'd probably be right, but this might stick now because of it. Of course, he isn't up next, Reid is, so by the time his seat rolls around it might be too old to drag up.
There are endless cavalcades of sex between politicians and staffers/interns/pages. It seems like DC is, as a city, simultaneously sexually repressed and extremely kinky.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promise_Keepers
Oh, I see. Love the subtitle on the logo.
Hell, I think that's the point of that last one.
It's like these people are addicted to hypocrisy.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
That was 11 years ago. You can't call someone a hypocrite because their life views changed in 11 years.
If Detharin is right, he'll probably get away scot-free. As he should, if Deth is right.
Who gives a shit?
This is assuming that his life view changed, which is unlikely.
Separated people are legally married. FYI.
Oh I know, that's what I mean.
It's not cheating if they're separated. That's what I meant.
Now were they legally separated, or "we need to take a break"?
Legally separated people can go back to being non-separated without doing anything specific. All they need to do is agree that they're back together.
So it's only hypocrisy if you're advocating against an action while you are actually doing it? Because I think you'd be amazed at the number of people who suddenly had an enlightened change of heart about something just moments before they got caught.
I learn way too much from a gaming forum. Thanks
What the?
Guy bashes the president for having an affair with an intern. Don't see anything bad about that, pretty much the entire world bashed him.
Guy that is separated from his wife/taking a break from his wife meets woman, sparks fly, he sleeps with her. Don't see anything wrong with that, either.
If he's a hypocrite for anything, it's this:
Personally I don't care who he puts his dick into, but apparently he thinks (or thought) that I should. And people shouldn't be held to an arbitrary standard, they should be held to their own. His standard is that public officials should not be having extramarital affairs with members of their staff. He then went and had an extramarital affair with a member of his staff. Now, if you have any evidence that he did publicly change his mind at any point between Lewinsky and last week that's one thing. If he only had a change of heart once he's the one that got caught it's quite another.
That just doubles the fun.
Oh double entendre, you can be so much fun.
Therein lies our problem. I don't think the president, who's supposed to be a role-model for hundreds of millions of people, and a senator, are on par.
What the president does impacts everything from public trust in the government to foreign affairs (at the very least least with religious zealot nutjob-led countries).
It's not the same thing if Clinton does it or some senator does it in my book, but apparently it is in yours. We'll just have to agree to disagree. And I don't think he ever mentioned that public officials shouldn't be having extramarital affairs, I think it was just a pet peeve about what Clinton did.
Sure, it's a double-standard (President does it, it's bad; senator does it, no biggie), but it doesn't make him a hypocrite in my book. The fact that he more than likely won't step down, though, does.
Couple that with the fact that we don't know if they were legally separated or not, and we have too many variables for anyone to be able to say anything conclusive about it lest they know the senator.
Public Official #1 commits Act X.
Public Official #1 is a hypocrite.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Are you blind, or just suffering from acute selective readism? Limed for you.
Reading comprehension, not everyone has it.
He has run on a "family values" plank. He's a hypocrite, its obvious and its a story that comes out more than once a year.
QEDMF xbl: PantsB G+
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Another sufferer of ASR. I never said he's not a hypocrite, I said he's not a hypocrite for bashing Clinton during the Lewinski scandal.
I'm going to get myself an ASR awareness bracelet now.
And I'm saying you're wrong, Zed. Our arguments hold just about as much water. You think that who Tim the gardener sleeps with has the potential to shape international policy-making, I don't.
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Sure. Unless the guy is a dickweed who's trying to blackmail a US senator, after he was all chummy with him after said senator slept with dickweed's wife.
pleasepaypreacher.net
You'll excuse me if I find that silly on multiple fronts.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Errm, what? So the senator's thought process was "This guy seems like a dickweed who will try to blackmail people; I'll screw his wife, that'll show him!"?