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Long story short I have an awful first semester of University (2 failed courses and I was put on academic probation) and since then I have been trying my best to fix everything and get my GPA to an acceptable level. Since then I haven't failed any courses but I haven't exactly been getting stellar grades. Stupidly I didn't check my student email after my finals until today...where I learnt that my GPA was at a level that would require me to withdraw for one year unless I put in a written request to continue.
I sent that request in today but I learnt the deadline for that had long since passed. The dean advised me to speak to an academic adviser, who I just sent an email to but I'm not sure I have any option right now other than to take the required year break and re-apply for admission, or I can try and transfer/apply to another school.
I guess my questions are:
what are my chances of still being able to get the special permission (I assume low, but the email I received didn't have any indication of a deadline for that just that if I didn't have it before the end of June my registrations would be removed)
What would be my best option if I can't continue at my current university
If your university experience is anything like mine, you're boned for now. It sounds like you've exhausted all your options, too.
Normally, I'd suggest trying for coursework at a junior college or similar in the interim. Most colleges and universities won't take you in your current academic condition, though. Perhaps try working and banking some money (and motivation to succeed) in the meantime?
When you transfer back after a year, you'll be in a much better position to succeed.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
you need to mount an appeal and have it granted before the end of June?
is anyone in your family looking to donate a bunch of money to a school? no? yer fucked. sorry.
in your year off, you need to quickly figure out why you failed at higher education, and fix that issue. Take community college classes in the meantime to not lose a year of your life (your credits should transfer once you restart school) and you'll also get a good "lighter weight" introduction to school
<edit> didn't notice the Canadia bit... so i'm not sure if my advice still applies (do you have community colleges?)
Use community college as a cheap way to fill out all those annoying general education requirements so when you go back to real college you can focus on the stuff that actually interests you.
Yeah, don't bother fighting it I would say. They make you take the year break so you can get yourself sorted out, so it might be a valuable time to take stock of what exactly you're doing in university anyway and if you're in the right degree, etc. Community college courses and working for a bit could help a lot with this.
Use community college as a cheap way to fill out all those annoying general education requirements so when you go back to real college you can focus on the stuff that actually interests you.
I just graduated, and I regard going straight into a 4 year university as one of the worst decisions I've made. There's no reason to pay a premium for the bullshit classes.
The thing is, I know exactly what I want to do and I know that I really like the degree I'm going for (Poli Sci, I want to be a journalist covering Canadian politics)
I like all my poli-sci classes I just HATE the general learning crap I'm forced to take and I don't try in them. Daedalus suggested going to college to take those kinds of courses for cheaper, is that a viable option?
The thing is, I know exactly what I want to do and I know that I really like the degree I'm going for (Poli Sci, I want to be a journalist covering Canadian politics)
I like all my poli-sci classes I just HATE the general learning crap I'm forced to take and I don't try in them. Daedalus suggested going to college to take those kinds of courses for cheaper, is that a viable option?
If a community/junior college will take you on academic probation, hell yes. I did the first 60 hours of my bachelor's for a tenth of the cost I would've paid at a four-year school, then transferred to TSU and will get the same degree as if I'd put myself into tens of thousands more debt.
studies also show that students who spend two years at community college before transferring to uni get better grades and are far more likely to graduate then students who start at uni right out of high school.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
If you can find anything remotely worthwhile work full-time for a year and take a couple of evening/weekend classes at a community college. I was forced to take a 1 year leave from my school after my second year thanks to major depression kicking my ass all over the place and causing me to withdraw from most of my classes three straight quarters. I managed to turn my usual summer job doing retail in the Museum Shop at the Art Institute of Chicago into a full-time accounting/financial reporting position auditing all sales of said shop by highlighting my high school math background and year of experience on the Finance Committee of my uni's student government. I also took a few community college classes to knock off some gen ed requirements, and made sure to ace them all.
Had zero problems being re-admitted one year later thanks to the good use of my time, and the work experience was hugely helpful when I was job searching immediately after graduation - that type of experience gave me a leg up on most students who had only part-time work experience when graduating. It was also beneficial in that accounting work was agonizingly boring for the most part, and the desire to be sure I never got stuck doing something like that again really did a great job of motivating me when I was back in school full-time.
If possible, you need to speak in person to these people. Have a plan A & B (for the break, next semester, and the rest of your time there), if you can stay, and a plan C (again break, community college classes you are considering, possible work study, etc) if you are not allowed. Either way, face to face, and ask for the advisor's feedback, and input. This shows you are not the typical "Oh noes, my parents are gonna kill me if I get kicked out, uh help!"
You need to show that you have considered your options and have a viable plan of attack for going forward. No BS. Own up to your mistakes, and show that you are actively trying to get your shit together.
Oh man, yeah. I agree wholeheartedly with taking some time to work and take some courses in your spare time. The first couple of years of University are all bullshit anyway - really basic, boring stuff to get everyone up to speed. Nobody wants to be there, least of all the professors.
If I could do it all again I'd have taken a year or two before going into university.
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If possible, you need to speak in person to these people. Have a plan A & B (for the break, next semester, and the rest of your time there), if you can stay, and a plan C (again break, community college classes you are considering, possible work study, etc) if you are not allowed. Either way, face to face, and ask for the advisor's feedback, and input. This shows you are not the typical "Oh noes, my parents are gonna kill me if I get kicked out, uh help!"
You need to show that you have considered your options and have a viable plan of attack for going forward. No BS. Own up to your mistakes, and show that you are actively trying to get your shit together.
Good luck.
If you really want to change this you need to go in person, not through e-mail, not on the phone, to your advisor and/or the dean and seriously talk to them about it. You need to have reasons laid out for why you're at this point and a plan to recover from it.
Some schools have special programs specifically for people in your position where they make you take a semester "off" of regular classes and instead make you go to time management, organization, writing, study skills, etc classes. If you are lucky enough to have your school have one of these, beg to get in one. During this semester they also try to help you evaluate whether or not you're in the right program, and if you aren't, they work with you and the faculty in the major you want to be in to get you in.
I plan to go see them in person next week, I sent the email at like 7pm right after I got the reply from the associate dean and it was a "holy crap is there any thing I can do to take classes next semester" thing I'm going to wait for a reply from the academic adviser (still haven't gotten it) and then I'll go in with whatever info she gives me.
I agree with all the people that said to go to a community college. I started at a community college at 16 and finished up my associate's degree a short while ago... along with all those damned core classes that are ridiculously expensive to take at universities.
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edited June 2009
Are you sure it's an entire year and not just two semesters? Some Canadian schools will only require you to withdraw for two semesters, one of which is the summer semester. This won't help you in getting back in right away, but it will help you plan a schedule for when you can go back.
All you can really do right now is throw yourself on the mercy of the people in charge and hope they help you.
Hopefully you can explain to them whatever the reason was for your low grades, and demonstrate that you improved over the time you were at the school.
I would be fairly surprised if, as a first year student, they weren't somewhat willing to work with you if you can demonstrate that you want to be there and you are smart enough to do the coursework. Speaking as an american student, but you have to fuck up pretty badly for a pretty extended period of time to actually be tossed from a university here.
If you have screwed up too much in terms of deadlines, your best bet is to work with them to create a plan that will get you back to university as soon as possible, if that is your goal. Maybe if you commit to taking a semester at a CC and do well, your suspension can be mitigated.
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hold your head high soldier, it ain't over yet
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
Do you even want to be in university? It takes a certain... drive..., shall we say, to have managed to screw up quite as abundantly as you have on multiple occasions.
I mean this quite seriously. You're talking about going back or going somewhere else, but you haven't mentioned anything about the circumstances that led you to this place. You flunked two classes, you didn't raise your GPA to a point where the university will automatically let you stay on, you missed a really important email that was sitting in your really important inbox that you didn't check on.
You would do better to evaluate why you want to be in university, what you want to be doing, and why you think things will change next time. If you can't answer all those questions honestly to a point that satisfies yourself, I think you have to think long and hard about whether university is the right place for you.
And, so we're clear, I absolutely believe that university is not for everyone, it doesn't represent any success or failure, just a certain career path. If you want to be a journalist, you can start at the local rag, and many, many famous journalists do.
Im now confused as fuck. I just got and email from an academic advisor that said, and I quote:
"The letter that you received explaining the option of 'special
permission to continue' indicated that you have until June 29, 2009 to
accept the offer. You will need to discuss the implications of
accepting this offer with an academic advisor"
meaning I have like another week to accept the offer, but the email I got from the assosciate dean says and I quote:
"The deadline for that passed quote some time ago"
I plan to go talk to the academic adviser in person on Tuesday and hopefully she can tell me what exactly is going on.
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Normally, I'd suggest trying for coursework at a junior college or similar in the interim. Most colleges and universities won't take you in your current academic condition, though. Perhaps try working and banking some money (and motivation to succeed) in the meantime?
When you transfer back after a year, you'll be in a much better position to succeed.
is anyone in your family looking to donate a bunch of money to a school? no? yer fucked. sorry.
in your year off, you need to quickly figure out why you failed at higher education, and fix that issue. Take community college classes in the meantime to not lose a year of your life (your credits should transfer once you restart school) and you'll also get a good "lighter weight" introduction to school
<edit> didn't notice the Canadia bit... so i'm not sure if my advice still applies (do you have community colleges?)
I just graduated, and I regard going straight into a 4 year university as one of the worst decisions I've made. There's no reason to pay a premium for the bullshit classes.
I like all my poli-sci classes I just HATE the general learning crap I'm forced to take and I don't try in them. Daedalus suggested going to college to take those kinds of courses for cheaper, is that a viable option?
If a community/junior college will take you on academic probation, hell yes. I did the first 60 hours of my bachelor's for a tenth of the cost I would've paid at a four-year school, then transferred to TSU and will get the same degree as if I'd put myself into tens of thousands more debt.
Had zero problems being re-admitted one year later thanks to the good use of my time, and the work experience was hugely helpful when I was job searching immediately after graduation - that type of experience gave me a leg up on most students who had only part-time work experience when graduating. It was also beneficial in that accounting work was agonizingly boring for the most part, and the desire to be sure I never got stuck doing something like that again really did a great job of motivating me when I was back in school full-time.
If possible, you need to speak in person to these people. Have a plan A & B (for the break, next semester, and the rest of your time there), if you can stay, and a plan C (again break, community college classes you are considering, possible work study, etc) if you are not allowed. Either way, face to face, and ask for the advisor's feedback, and input. This shows you are not the typical "Oh noes, my parents are gonna kill me if I get kicked out, uh help!"
You need to show that you have considered your options and have a viable plan of attack for going forward. No BS. Own up to your mistakes, and show that you are actively trying to get your shit together.
Good luck.
If I could do it all again I'd have taken a year or two before going into university.
Thank you, Rubacava!
If you really want to change this you need to go in person, not through e-mail, not on the phone, to your advisor and/or the dean and seriously talk to them about it. You need to have reasons laid out for why you're at this point and a plan to recover from it.
Some schools have special programs specifically for people in your position where they make you take a semester "off" of regular classes and instead make you go to time management, organization, writing, study skills, etc classes. If you are lucky enough to have your school have one of these, beg to get in one. During this semester they also try to help you evaluate whether or not you're in the right program, and if you aren't, they work with you and the faculty in the major you want to be in to get you in.
Hopefully you can explain to them whatever the reason was for your low grades, and demonstrate that you improved over the time you were at the school.
I would be fairly surprised if, as a first year student, they weren't somewhat willing to work with you if you can demonstrate that you want to be there and you are smart enough to do the coursework. Speaking as an american student, but you have to fuck up pretty badly for a pretty extended period of time to actually be tossed from a university here.
If you have screwed up too much in terms of deadlines, your best bet is to work with them to create a plan that will get you back to university as soon as possible, if that is your goal. Maybe if you commit to taking a semester at a CC and do well, your suspension can be mitigated.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
I mean this quite seriously. You're talking about going back or going somewhere else, but you haven't mentioned anything about the circumstances that led you to this place. You flunked two classes, you didn't raise your GPA to a point where the university will automatically let you stay on, you missed a really important email that was sitting in your really important inbox that you didn't check on.
You would do better to evaluate why you want to be in university, what you want to be doing, and why you think things will change next time. If you can't answer all those questions honestly to a point that satisfies yourself, I think you have to think long and hard about whether university is the right place for you.
And, so we're clear, I absolutely believe that university is not for everyone, it doesn't represent any success or failure, just a certain career path. If you want to be a journalist, you can start at the local rag, and many, many famous journalists do.
"The letter that you received explaining the option of 'special
permission to continue' indicated that you have until June 29, 2009 to
accept the offer. You will need to discuss the implications of
accepting this offer with an academic advisor"
meaning I have like another week to accept the offer, but the email I got from the assosciate dean says and I quote:
"The deadline for that passed quote some time ago"
I plan to go talk to the academic adviser in person on Tuesday and hopefully she can tell me what exactly is going on.