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Common misconception on voting
Loggymonster
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Now let me start off by saying I personally voted for Lookouts BUT I absolutely support the free vote system used that declared Automata the clear winner.
People stating that "Jim Darkmagic stole votes that could have gone to The Lookouts" is a corrupt idea and a very whiny way to say one is a sore loser. If someone voted for Jim Darkmagic it is because they WANTED Jim Darkmagic. They didn't want Lookouts to begin with. Yes, if forced to only choose from two without the third ever being present they may have chosen a more "magical" based comic and not one with a tired idea that has been done before in different ways. BUT taking AWAY the third choice to give another choice a higher chance at success is just wrong.
How does this reflect Penny Arcade and to a greater extent it's creators? Are they just trying to pacify sore fans who didn't get the votes for the comic they wanted? If that is so I don't think this voting system is the way to go about it. Is it an attempt to make the vote swing in the direction of the comic they most wanted to make anyway? If that's the case why have a vote at all? OR is it just a love for "Tournament" style results? If that's the case, wouldn't it have been much better to offer a fourth comic idea even if it was just to even the field?
People stating that "Jim Darkmagic stole votes that could have gone to The Lookouts" is a corrupt idea and a very whiny way to say one is a sore loser. If someone voted for Jim Darkmagic it is because they WANTED Jim Darkmagic. They didn't want Lookouts to begin with. Yes, if forced to only choose from two without the third ever being present they may have chosen a more "magical" based comic and not one with a tired idea that has been done before in different ways. BUT taking AWAY the third choice to give another choice a higher chance at success is just wrong.
How does this reflect Penny Arcade and to a greater extent it's creators? Are they just trying to pacify sore fans who didn't get the votes for the comic they wanted? If that is so I don't think this voting system is the way to go about it. Is it an attempt to make the vote swing in the direction of the comic they most wanted to make anyway? If that's the case why have a vote at all? OR is it just a love for "Tournament" style results? If that's the case, wouldn't it have been much better to offer a fourth comic idea even if it was just to even the field?
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Ah well, Automata was my favourite anyway, so all is well.
There is a link to the new poll in today's newspost.
It's called a runoff. It's used in elections in lots of other countries so people can support a first choice that may not win, and also support a second (or third, fourth, etc.) choice that has a better chance to win.
It's a better way to get a consensus on which one MOST people would prefer.
If the first vote was supposed to be final then it needed to stay final.
That's because our election system doesn't call or allow for that.
Is there a problem with trying a system that has a better chance at figuring out the comic that MOST PEOPLE would like to see?
They are both legitimate. I don't understand how you think one is more legit than the other.
It's a webcomic run on a website by people who make money by their consumers clicking on ads. Why does it need to stay final?
More at 11.
Where's the :rolleyes: when you need it?
... dude, it's just a runoff vote. O_o
no need to go crying onto the forums because there's a chance your favorite might not win
We've picked Blue as our color of freedom, and the forums support us.
If you're going to get your panties in a twist about their "integrity" for running a second round of voting on a webcomic popularity internet poll, then I think you have some wild misconceptions about what "integrity" is.
Are you fucking serious?
yes I'm fucking serious. You wanna do something about it, bitch? (see what I did there? I responded in a way your caveman like brain can understand.)
I'm out, seems like most of you missed the point but there are some good arguments and my mind has been changed in some ways. Thanks for the responses!
After this voting fiasco how are we supposed to believe that they aren't taking all the Child's Play money and stuffing it down their pants in front of sick kids?!?!!!
I will trust no more, forever.
I'm becoming a lawyer!
What makes Mike and Jerry think they can run this vote how they want? Fucking sellouts. How dare they, after all these years of providing us with free fun. Fucking hypocrites.
(And I think they really wanted to do Jim Darkmagic the most. However, the initial comic was just unfunny, and that's definitely what turned me off.)
Nonetheless, I think we should begin tweeting about this oppressive system and the thrown election. Clearly Automata was the will of the people.
Just like the GOP, mirite?
(sorry, cross-reference from the GOP thread)
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Nice Hoekstra, there.
What the fuck is your damage?
That was very...uh..eighties of you.
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Also, I think that the runoff votes are freaking awesome. In countries such as the England it would allow people to vote for who they actually wanted rather than being coerced to voting for one of the big two (maybe three) by scare tactics of "Woooooh, vote for us or the other even worse guy will get in, wooooooh".
http://steamcommunity.com/id/pablocampy
That's why I voited for it actually. The art was so different from what's he has normally done, while Lookout, although neat in concept, still looked too familiar.
Except that they said that they do, in fact, want to do all of these. And they're going to be doing them all eventually.
All we're determining is the order in which they do them.
fakeedit: via lots of proxies actually