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Sin's Art Stuff

LittleSinLittleSin Registered User regular
edited November 2009 in Artist's Corner
Hi!

I've been lurking for a while now ans decided to finally join the fun!

I've dabbled in several different mediums over the years and, after doing nothing but digital stuff for a long time, decided I love the feel of pencils, pens, markers and paints. I'm constantly trying to improve myself and, with you help, hopefully I'll get see some great leap in my art work.

Guess I better post some stuff. This isn't in chronological order and some stuff was taken with a crappy camera.

Also, this first post may be a big one. :)

These two were drawn as my sisters B-Day present.
inthewoods.jpg

legs.jpg

The following two were painted on glass in acrylic. The best way I can explain it is that I start by doing the lines then pain backwards, in layers so in the end there are several layers of paint on the back and one image on the front.
blueangel.jpg

eve.jpg

This one was done for the 24 hour art marathon for Eastern Edge Gallery. It was also the crappiest, hence why it never sold. I painted it after being up for 18 hours. :) Unfortunately, I don't have pictures of the ones that sold.
holdingon.jpg

Acryclic and chalk pastel on canvas.
nightmares.jpg

Acrylic and make up on canvas. I just wanted to see how it would look.
nohappyend.jpg

A commission peice that I never got paid for...so they never got it.
phoenixdown.jpg

Acrylic and newspaper clippings. I'm still working on getting a good shot of this one. The words on it say "I wanted Roots. I grew in you."
roots.jpg

One of the first paintings I ever did and it shows. You can't see but the lyrics to a Linkin Park song are in the sky. EMO.
sungodown.jpg

Another one painted on glass.
thesurvivor.jpg

Done with prismacolor markers and leads. How do real artist make light look believable?
darknightcolor.jpg

Sketch.
hairflick.jpg

This painting is actually REALLY big...and it's one of my favorites, despite it being cluttered.
pullingheaven.jpg

More marker work.
FlyGirl.jpg

Fan art for the web comic 'State of Dementia'.
shellysod.jpg

Done with watercolors and marker.
left.jpg

Done with watercolor, chalk pastel and marker. Again, trying to figure out how to make light believable.
chasernap.jpg

Done with marker and leads.
retro2.jpg

Done with marker. Always wanted to ride a fuckin' dinosaur.
dinoride.jpg

Done with marker and leads.
retro.jpg

Annnd old randoms I found in photobucket.
WTF.jpg

shockkiss.jpg

So, have at me!

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    MustangMustang Arbiter of Unpopular Opinions Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Your biggest failing here is your lack of understanding of construction. You've gone up an anime path that is really going to hinder your progress. I think some of this is passable from a stylistic point of view, but you're limiting yourself right now. You need to drop the "teen angst anime art" for a while an d get back to basics with pencil and paper, boring stuff, hand studies, feet studies, arm, leg, lips and eye studies. Preferably from life, but photos are a good enough substitution.

    I suspect your going to blow off this advise and just assume I don't have any idea what I'm talking about, but I do hope you take it on board, because if you really want to get good at drawing you have to look for the merit in every bit of advise you are given. Anything less and you're only doing yourself a disservice.

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    ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Mustang wrote: »
    Your biggest failing here is your lack of understanding of construction. You've gone up an anime path that is really going to hinder your progress. I think some of this is passable from a stylistic point of view, but you're limiting yourself right now. You need to drop the "teen angst anime art" for a while an d get back to basics with pencil and paper, boring stuff, hand studies, feet studies, arm, leg, lips and eye studies. Preferably from life, but photos are a good enough substitution.

    I suspect your going to blow off this advise and just assume I don't have any idea what I'm talking about, but I do hope you take it on board, because if you really want to get good at drawing you have to look for the merit in every bit of advise you are given. Anything less and you're only doing yourself a disservice.

    Agreed. This is probably the number one criticism around here for new artists, and that's because it's the best advice anyone can give to someone such as yourself who has learned to draw from watching cartoons. Unfortunately, the way to learn how to draw real, three-dimensional objects, and as an extension of that, anything else real or fake, is to draw things that actually exist. Plants. Pots. Hands. Feet. Draw your desk. Draw your house. Draw the centerpiece of your kitchen table.

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    ManonvonSuperockManonvonSuperock Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I guess I'd be the one to third getting away from the naruto/twlight fanart looking stuff.

    Also, you might want to tag your thread as NSFW for ass and titties.

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    winter_combat_knightwinter_combat_knight Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Man, i LOVE your concepts and colours, but i think there is a lack of time placed into the structure and compositions. There seems to be little thought towards perspective and form. Really try to practice that in your spare time. Even if it turns out 'wrong', it will look better for the fact that it is considered. Again, i urge you to practice anatomy and perspective. Your work does look cool, but it would look freaking awesome if you could pull off the fundamentals.

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    WassermeloneWassermelone Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Mustang wrote: »
    Your biggest failing here is your lack of understanding of construction. You've gone up an anime path that is really going to hinder your progress. I think some of this is passable from a stylistic point of view, but you're limiting yourself right now. You need to drop the "teen angst anime art" for a while an d get back to basics with pencil and paper, boring stuff, hand studies, feet studies, arm, leg, lips and eye studies. Preferably from life, but photos are a good enough substitution.

    I suspect your going to blow off this advise and just assume I don't have any idea what I'm talking about, but I do hope you take it on board, because if you really want to get good at drawing you have to look for the merit in every bit of advise you are given. Anything less and you're only doing yourself a disservice.

    This. The other thing you can do is to stop drawing passively. When you are not drawing, look at something, and think "How would I draw that?". Look at the way light affects things. Look at the way shoulders form. Look at textures. Look at a lot of art - other than anime*. Notice little things and try to find out the reason for why they look that way. If you understand how the skeleton and muscles work and look like, you'll find drawing people much easier.


    *You obviously look at a lot of anime already. This isn't a 'anime is awful' post - there are a lot of amazing anime artists, but the good ones learned the same way everyone learns. They know what the human body looks like and can stylize it. Its like telephone - you are learning from them, but you don't know what quite they have right so are learning their mistakes/stylization rather than what they built it from.

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    beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    i am just going to add to the pile of "you are stylizing too early and it shows" comments

    I can see poses that you are trying to pull off that i've seen in popular anime bits
    like that one at the very bottom with the guy getting kissed by the girl, pulling back from her, hands out
    that is a pose i must have seen about 40 times already around deviantart. I'm pretty sure i did a drawing with that same pose way back in my angsty furry days.
    you're trying to copy that same feel and pose without knowing what the underlying fundamentals of the human body are.
    the hand is completely falling off the arm
    his shoulder seems to be coming out of his ear...yes the shoulders go up in a pose like that, but shoulders simply cannot go that high. his head is tiny, her chin is huge... that sort of thing
    and these same construction and anatomy errors show up throughout your work.

    that being said, it is nice to see that you're doing some traditional stuff instead of all digital, that's definitely a plus over all the hundreds of amateur anime artists out there.

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    LittleSinLittleSin Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Thanks for the critiques. I know I'm very anime influenced and its not always a good thing. So...I guess I'm going to have to head back to the drawing board and work on being more realistic. :)

    I think I'll start today, perhaps hit deviant art and pick up some stock photos for reference.

    That is, if my baby will stay settled long enough for me to do so!

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    MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    In a lot of these pictures, I actually like the composition, but it seems like the picture is oddly cropped or you're just making things slightly too big. and body parts are falling out of the picture.

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    LittleSinLittleSin Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    In a lot of these pictures, I actually like the composition, but it seems like the picture is oddly cropped or you're just making things slightly too big. and body parts are falling out of the picture.

    I think I can see the one you're talking about but may I ask for examples?

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    MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    The neon purple angel guy, the girl and guy on the sidewalk, the bird, the girl riding the dinosaur. All of these pictures have things inexplicably chopped off in order to fit into the picture or are uncomfortably close to the edge of the picture.

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    LittleSinLittleSin Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    The neon purple angel guy, the girl and guy on the sidewalk, the bird, the girl riding the dinosaur. All of these pictures have things inexplicably chopped off in order to fit into the picture or are uncomfortably close to the edge of the picture.

    Oh. I understand now. That was a personal choice...I actually drew them like that. Why? Well, because that's how I frame thing in my mind: like comic book panels. I always try to depict a story in one 'panel'.

    Perhaps that isn't a good thing?

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    MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    LittleSin wrote: »
    The neon purple angel guy, the girl and guy on the sidewalk, the bird, the girl riding the dinosaur. All of these pictures have things inexplicably chopped off in order to fit into the picture or are uncomfortably close to the edge of the picture.

    Oh. I understand now. That was a personal choice...I actually drew them like that. Why? Well, because that's how I frame thing in my mind: like comic book panels. I always try to depict a story in one 'panel'.

    Perhaps that isn't a good thing?

    It gives the impression that you ran out of room, actually. Its one thing to put an entire figure, half a figure, a head, or even just a fist or foot into a panel, but chopping off just the top of the hair is a little off-putting.

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    LittleSinLittleSin Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Okay! Bet you thought you scared me away, huh? Not so!

    In case you never caught it last time, I am a new mother and this little guy:
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    keeps me pretty busy. I had a bit of time today though and started looking up tutorials and stock photos.

    With out further adieu...EYES.

    eyes.jpg

    NOSES.

    noses.jpg

    I started on lips but discovered I really can't draw lips and theres no good tutorials for drawing lips. I mean there's pleanty on line for digitally painting them, but none for pencil to paper.

    So, please critique my first attempt at non-anime eyes and noses. Also, recommend me a place where I can get a good lip tutorial.

    Back to the baby!

    Yes. My baby has a cleft lip and palate.

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    MustangMustang Arbiter of Unpopular Opinions Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Progress! Well done and congrats on being a mother. The cleft lip isn't a big deal, I have a few friends with one and after the op it never bothered them again.

    I'd probably drop the eyelashes at the moment, they're not really necessary unless you're really zoomed in or defining in excruciating detail. Less really is more with eyelashes. Your bottom right nose is good, keep those strong structural lines going, it'll help your eye to see the form.

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    LittleSinLittleSin Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Thanks Mustang!

    I did find that the eye lashes were confusing me when I tried to draw but wasn't sure if it was acceptable to drop them. I'm glad that I can.

    Now, can you tell me if there's a trick to drawing male eyes compared to female eyes? There are guy eyes up there but they all came out very girly.

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    ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    that baby is adorable

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    winter_combat_knightwinter_combat_knight Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    LittleSin wrote: »
    Now, can you tell me if there's a trick to drawing male eyes compared to female eyes? There are guy eyes up there but they all came out very girly.

    I'm the opposite. My womens eyes end up looking like dudes. Dont men have more overlapping skin above and below the eyes? I think womens are rounder. I bet Cake knows the answer to this question.

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    ZaengoZaengo Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    dont take this as a great insult or anything, but in my own opinion, this.... this is just awful. just truly atrocious. i cant exactly explain all of the things wrong with it, but its just really bad. if i could give more educated or helpful opinions on this, i totally would, but i just cant. im really trying to, but i cant think of how to help. beyond repair i guess is what i would say. i dont want to sound like the simon cowl of forum idol, but i cant help it. i might not be very good, but this is just- really not good. im sorry.

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    SublimusSublimus Artist. nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Who the fuck are you, Zaengo? Try and be a little less useless next time you post.

    OP, Don't listen to him. You've already taken the initial criticisms to heart, and have started down the path towards success.

    Just keep up the studies, and you'll be sailing!

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    beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    where did this person even come from?
    they deserve to be banned from the forums for being so completely ignorant.

    he's wrong, first of all, your stuff is not at ALL beyond repair or atrocious

    in your most recent studies, you show quite a bit of promise
    so please please for the love of god, disregard that poster, they simply don't know what they're talking about.

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    LoomdunLoomdun Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I kind of agree douche bags like that is what I had to deal with in mass quantities when I first started out drawing for a few years, I wouldn't mind seeing him banned

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    ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    About Zaengo

    Biography
    ive got a body part thats bigger than you can imagine. my heart........................ and my junk.

    I think we've honed in on the caliber of this person. My work is done here

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    FoodFood Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I'm wondering why he would bother digging through the archives and resurrecting a 3 month old thread just for that.

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    SublimusSublimus Artist. nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    The OP resurrected it herself, actually.

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    earthwormadamearthwormadam ancient crust Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Those studies look like they were done by a different artist, big improvement.

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