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Yeah, they're certainly worth it in terms of the overall quality of those series and the per issue cost represented by charging <$100 for the whole shebang.
Young Justice and Impulse. Worth buying the series if each is under $100?
Um... hell yes?
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
Captain America Reborn is a limited series. My question is... is the normal monthly Cap on hold while this event is going on, or are we going to be getting double Cap for 5 months?
IIF is on hold? Damn, I knew about Cap and Ghost Rider, but just started reading Iron Fist... not caught up yet, but am loving it. When's new issues start?
There are a series of one-shots coming out at the moment focussing on characters you will meet later in the series you are reading, so there are still issues coming out.
Can someone give me a brief history on Connor Kent/Superboy?
The only time I've ever read anything with him was his introduction in the early 90s, and he seems to be a completely different character now. Less 90s slacker cool guy, and more modest jock.
How old is he supposed to be currently? Why did his personality change so much? What do we know about Adventure Comics so far?
There's an Adventure Comics preview in the previews thread.
Kon-El grew up around the time he joined the Teen Titans, stopped having as many lighthearted adventures, and learned that part of his DNA comes from Lex Luthor.
Can someone give me a brief history on Connor Kent/Superboy?
The only time I've ever read anything with him was his introduction in the early 90s, and he seems to be a completely different character now. Less 90s slacker cool guy, and more modest jock.
How old is he supposed to be currently? Why did his personality change so much? What do we know about Adventure Comics so far?
I believe he's 16 still, and, unless something has changed, he will always be 16. He can't grow any older, or at least he couldn't.
His personality changed when his girlfriend was murdered I believe during the Sins of Youth story arc, he became more adult and trying to live up to being a successor of Superman.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
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Can someone give me a brief history on Connor Kent/Superboy?
The only time I've ever read anything with him was his introduction in the early 90s, and he seems to be a completely different character now. Less 90s slacker cool guy, and more modest jock.
How old is he supposed to be currently? Why did his personality change so much? What do we know about Adventure Comics so far?
I never read all of his series, leaving it around #20, but from piecing it together he was a clone of Superman who would never age, up to about issue 70 of his series I believe (I think he was allowed to age at the end of Sins of Youth, or maybe it was the end of the Condition Critical arc in Superman). That made him have that "if I have to be a kid, I'll act like one" attitude that was actually a really good plot point. Then Johns made his character more of the jock in relaunching Teen Titans. He went from a skinny kid to a butch guy who wears Doc Martins overnight.
And I really don't care for the jeans and shirt outfit he wears, especially that stupid strap on his wrist (which is sometimes a watch, sometimes not). He had one of the best outfits when he wore his old costume without the leather jacket, which was revised during the Kelly/Ferry run on Superboy (which was really really good).
That's where the resolve the aging thing, during Sins of Youth. That is also kind of the turning point a bit for his character though, there he becomes a little harder. But the Teen Titans relaunch pretty much completes it.
I just went back and reread it.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
With the TK and sub-Kryptonian powers, and the whole "next Superman" thing going on, Connor and Chris Kent seem to have a lot in common. I'm hoping for a Superboy/SuperNightwing team up .
There are a series of one-shots coming out at the moment focussing on characters you will meet later in the series you are reading, so there are still issues coming out.
One more: Am I missing a significant amount if I don't read Seven Soldiers before Final Crisis? Or would it just give me crazy-expansive new layers on top of a work that already stands on its own?
I'd say Mister Miracle's backstory is pretty significant, but the main reason to read SS is because it's a fantastic self-contained event and some of Morrison's best work.
It's something I definitely want to read, as Morrison is quickly becoming a favorite of mine. But I didn't realize exactly how much I spent on used books after my birthday last week, and it's unlikely that I'll be able to afford the four trades until 5 or 6 months from now as I enter into college budgeting.
There are a series of one-shots coming out at the moment focussing on characters you will meet later in the series you are reading, so there are still issues coming out.
I didn't read through all of the Skrull invasion stuff, but did Dro'ge, the cool little scientist dude, get killed or is he still lurking around somewhere?
Heard today in a comic chat that with Hulk being renumbered, Marvel is dropping the Incredible Hercules ongoing. Last issue I picked up was 129 - and I don't remember seeing an issue at my store in June. Was the series really cancelled, or did I just miss it? I'm really liking this book, and don't really browse the comics news sites/threads, because I got sick of spoilers.
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It's still going on and has solicits out for at least 132 from what I remember.
It's something I definitely want to read, as Morrison is quickly becoming a favorite of mine. But I didn't realize exactly how much I spent on used books after my birthday last week, and it's unlikely that I'll be able to afford the four trades until 5 or 6 months from now as I enter into college budgeting.
Speaking as someone who loved Final Crisis, I'd say you should actually hold off on getting the hardcover if it means being able to get some Seven Soldiers of Victory trades.
I am absolutely resolute when I say that SSoV is my favorite comic. Ever. I think it is the quintessential comic book for our age (much as Watchmen was for the 80s and 90s), and everybody who possibly can read it should. (Though I wouldn't expect most to be quite so into it. :P)
That said the only part of Seven Soldiers that really ties into Final Crisis is the Mister Miracle segment; I do think your enjoyment of FC would be enhanced if you were to have read that four-issue story first, and you can probably get the singles for very cheap online (I paid $1 each for them at Comic Con this year), or you could get the last two trades of SSoV, the only two where Mister Miracle appears, I believe.
I mean. It's really not essential by any means. Mister Miracle is hardly in Final Crisis and the Omega Sanction doesn't have a huge impact on the overall story, but SSoV will prepare you, I think, for the tone and, er, metaphysical leaps, of Final Crisis.
(edit: ha, I sound like such a douche in that second paragraph, preening my engorged fanboy doodler. but furreal Seven Soldiers is great, everyone.)
I need the 7S trades too. I have most of the single issues, but I am missing a few.
Apparently Morrison was plagued by coloring errors in both 7S and FC. Everyone was supposed to black in the Mister Miracle stuff, he envisioned it as a piece of Afro Futurism or something crazy.
They fixed the coloring problems in the Final Crisis hardcover, and perhaps in the Seven Soldiers trades since I remember all of the characters in Mister Miracle being black?
If you had the choice between a $4 comic with glossy paper and superior color, and a $3 comic with a paper stock from 10 years ago with a weaker color selection, which would you choose?
I'd go with the cheaper option, simply because better color isn't that big of a deal breaker for me. Some art looks better uncolored too, like Paul Smith's old Uncanny work in the Essential volumes.
Honestly, I'd prefer the higher quality colouring. That's with the assumption that if they lower the quality of the art via poor colouring then it will also lower the quality in the subsequent trades.
They aren't going to colour the same book twice, so that stands to reason. If the floppies were lower standard and the trades were still high quality then thats fine... but I don't think that's how it would work.
Just to be clear, from reading the interview, that is not actually a hypothetical that Marvel is considering. JoeQ makes it pretty clear he doesn't consider it an option.
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As production and availability of the "obsolete" older paper decreases in favor of the newer paper stock, would that even be a viable solution?
If you had the choice between a $4 comic with glossy paper and superior color, and a $3 comic with a paper stock from 10 years ago with a weaker color selection, which would you choose?
I'd definitely choose the cheaper comic on poorer paper. Look at the TPBs for Geoff Johns's Teen Titans run; those were printed on newsprint style paper, given nice computer coloring that looked great, and each only cost $9.99. The difference in glossy and matte paper really isn't that noticeable.
Honestly, I'm getting to the point that I'm going to have to start cutting books from my shopping list, unless Marvel gets their prices down. I spent forty bucks this week on eleven comics. That's like, two hours of entertainment, even reading at a pretty casual pace. I mean, I grew up on comics that were anywhere from $1.00 to $1.50 per issue. When I got back into comics a few years ago, they were $2.50 a piece. For them to rocket up by that much in just a few years is, as far as I'm concerned, pretty ridiculous.
I'm really on the verge of just cutting all Marvel and DC monthlies, and just supporting indie books while I wait on DC/Marvel TPBs. If Longbox sells as many indie titles as it's being promoted to, I'll probably stop buying floppies altogether. As much as I love comics, I love eating just a little more.
I like the cheaper paper since it doesn't reflect light as bad as the glossy paper but I mainly trade-wait now anyway. The only new Marvel book I'm reading in the monthly format is Secret Warriors, and the only other monthlies I get are New and Dark Avengers, Iron Man, Thor, and Cap. I do plan on getting all the Ultimate Comics title in the monthly format however. Speaking of that it would be cool if Marvel decided to have all those issues be 48 pages instead of 32. I think Bendis and Lafuente could handle it and Ultimate Avengers has a rotating artist list anyway. But I doubt that would work out for some reason even if they tried it.
I like the cheaper paper since it doesn't reflect light as bad as the glossy paper but I mainly trade-wait now anyway. The only new Marvel book I'm reading in the monthly format is Secret Warriors, and the only other monthlies I get are New and Dark Avengers, Iron Man, Thor, and Cap. I do plan on getting all the Ultimate Comics title in the monthly format however. Speaking of that it would be cool if Marvel decided to have all those issues be 48 pages instead of 32. I think Bendis and Lafuente could handle it and Ultimate Avengers has a rotating artist list anyway. But I doubt that would work out for some reason even if they tried it.
I could see them making it 48 pages. Just 22 pages plus 26 ads instead of more story.
Personally I'd like to see them go cheap paper for monthlies and glossy for trades.
Technically Millar should be able to do it since Ultimate Avengers is the only book he'll be working on, well except for War Heroes but that seems to have been forgotten about. But you could argue it isn't fair on the writers and artists even with the $3.99 price tag.
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Um... hell yes?
The only time I've ever read anything with him was his introduction in the early 90s, and he seems to be a completely different character now. Less 90s slacker cool guy, and more modest jock.
How old is he supposed to be currently? Why did his personality change so much? What do we know about Adventure Comics so far?
Kon-El grew up around the time he joined the Teen Titans, stopped having as many lighthearted adventures, and learned that part of his DNA comes from Lex Luthor.
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I believe he's 16 still, and, unless something has changed, he will always be 16. He can't grow any older, or at least he couldn't.
His personality changed when his girlfriend was murdered I believe during the Sins of Youth story arc, he became more adult and trying to live up to being a successor of Superman.
I never read all of his series, leaving it around #20, but from piecing it together he was a clone of Superman who would never age, up to about issue 70 of his series I believe (I think he was allowed to age at the end of Sins of Youth, or maybe it was the end of the Condition Critical arc in Superman). That made him have that "if I have to be a kid, I'll act like one" attitude that was actually a really good plot point. Then Johns made his character more of the jock in relaunching Teen Titans. He went from a skinny kid to a butch guy who wears Doc Martins overnight.
And I really don't care for the jeans and shirt outfit he wears, especially that stupid strap on his wrist (which is sometimes a watch, sometimes not). He had one of the best outfits when he wore his old costume without the leather jacket, which was revised during the Kelly/Ferry run on Superboy (which was really really good).
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That's where the resolve the aging thing, during Sins of Youth. That is also kind of the turning point a bit for his character though, there he becomes a little harder. But the Teen Titans relaunch pretty much completes it.
I just went back and reread it.
If the Iron Fist book keeps going that is
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Speaking as someone who loved Final Crisis, I'd say you should actually hold off on getting the hardcover if it means being able to get some Seven Soldiers of Victory trades.
I am absolutely resolute when I say that SSoV is my favorite comic. Ever. I think it is the quintessential comic book for our age (much as Watchmen was for the 80s and 90s), and everybody who possibly can read it should. (Though I wouldn't expect most to be quite so into it. :P)
That said the only part of Seven Soldiers that really ties into Final Crisis is the Mister Miracle segment; I do think your enjoyment of FC would be enhanced if you were to have read that four-issue story first, and you can probably get the singles for very cheap online (I paid $1 each for them at Comic Con this year), or you could get the last two trades of SSoV, the only two where Mister Miracle appears, I believe.
I mean. It's really not essential by any means. Mister Miracle is hardly in Final Crisis and the Omega Sanction doesn't have a huge impact on the overall story, but SSoV will prepare you, I think, for the tone and, er, metaphysical leaps, of Final Crisis.
(edit: ha, I sound like such a douche in that second paragraph, preening my engorged fanboy doodler. but furreal Seven Soldiers is great, everyone.)
Apparently Morrison was plagued by coloring errors in both 7S and FC. Everyone was supposed to black in the Mister Miracle stuff, he envisioned it as a piece of Afro Futurism or something crazy.
If you had the choice between a $4 comic with glossy paper and superior color, and a $3 comic with a paper stock from 10 years ago with a weaker color selection, which would you choose?
I'd go with the cheaper option, simply because better color isn't that big of a deal breaker for me. Some art looks better uncolored too, like Paul Smith's old Uncanny work in the Essential volumes.
I'm one of those dudes where it's all about the feel and the experience and I just prefer regular paper in my comics
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They aren't going to colour the same book twice, so that stands to reason. If the floppies were lower standard and the trades were still high quality then thats fine... but I don't think that's how it would work.
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I would rather pay less and also I'd rather read it on regular paper anyway
I like that paper and I have no problems with the coloring
I'd definitely choose the cheaper comic on poorer paper. Look at the TPBs for Geoff Johns's Teen Titans run; those were printed on newsprint style paper, given nice computer coloring that looked great, and each only cost $9.99. The difference in glossy and matte paper really isn't that noticeable.
Honestly, I'm getting to the point that I'm going to have to start cutting books from my shopping list, unless Marvel gets their prices down. I spent forty bucks this week on eleven comics. That's like, two hours of entertainment, even reading at a pretty casual pace. I mean, I grew up on comics that were anywhere from $1.00 to $1.50 per issue. When I got back into comics a few years ago, they were $2.50 a piece. For them to rocket up by that much in just a few years is, as far as I'm concerned, pretty ridiculous.
I'm really on the verge of just cutting all Marvel and DC monthlies, and just supporting indie books while I wait on DC/Marvel TPBs. If Longbox sells as many indie titles as it's being promoted to, I'll probably stop buying floppies altogether. As much as I love comics, I love eating just a little more.
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I could see them making it 48 pages. Just 22 pages plus 26 ads instead of more story.
Personally I'd like to see them go cheap paper for monthlies and glossy for trades.