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Chief Justice John Roberts vs. Michael Jackson

ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
edited June 2009 in Debate and/or Discourse
Interesting read: A Fight Over Michael Jackson

Though I think it a bit over the top, I can respect the principles Roberts thought he was defending by declining the Presidential letters written to Jackson. It seems absurd today when the White House is often used as a publicity forum for successful artists and sports teams.

I think a lot of people would view this as Roberts being "out of touch", and perhaps rightfully so.

Discuss?


(I also find the last paragraph hilariously ironic)

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    And the evidence of Roberts' toolishness just keeps piling up.

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  • YarYar Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Meh. I don't consider it such a big deal, but I can see his point.

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Wow, a lawyer at the White House decided that the office of the president shouldn't be used as a promotion vehicle for magazines or concert tours?!? The nerve!

    I am suprised that anyone would think it appropriate for a celebrity's PR rep to sent text to the White House of a letter that would be implied to be from the President. Try to imagine, say, Rahm Emmanuel's reaction if Justin Timberlake's rep sent such a letter for the President to sign. I'm sure he would say something similar, though probably in fewer words.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Yar wrote: »
    Meh. I don't consider it such a big deal, but I can see his point.

    Except that Nixon already blew his point away two decades prior.

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  • mrdobalinamrdobalina Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I agree with Roberts. Making this into a fuss seems silly.

    It shows (at the very least) that he holds the office of the President (and maybe by extention other offices) to be above pop culture exploitation. I'm ok with that.

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  • DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I am not a fan of Roberts, but this seems to be okay in my book.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2009
    mrdobalina wrote: »
    I agree with Roberts. Making this into a fuss seems silly.

    It shows (at the very least) that he holds the office of the President (and maybe by extention other offices) to be above pop culture exploitation. I'm ok with that.

    I agree with the principle, certainly.

    I think Reagan may have been the last President to think of the office as more than a position of power.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    I think Reagan may have been the last President to think of the office as more than a position of power.

    Thank you. I haven't had a laugh like that in years.

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  • YarYar Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Yar wrote: »
    Meh. I don't consider it such a big deal, but I can see his point.

    Except that Nixon already blew his point away two decades prior.
    Wrong + wrong = ?

    Sorry Reagan couldn't live up to your Nixon standard.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Archgarth wrote: »
    I am not a fan of Roberts, but this seems to be okay in my book.

    This. Not that I wouldn't have been OK with it if the letter had gone through. Just doesn't really seem like a big deal.

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Archgarth wrote: »
    I am not a fan of Roberts, but this seems to be okay in my book.

    This. Not that I wouldn't have been OK with it if the letter had gone through. Just doesn't really seem like a big deal.

    I think we're all in agreement there, that sending tacit approval for the commercial designs of a pop act isn't something the President should be doing, but Roberts certainly didn't need to be so toolish about it. Perhaps he thought it a waste of his time though, so who knows.

    OTOH, lending presidential support and thanks to an act who's working to teach young people about the dangers of drunk driving, isn't totally out of line either.

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Yar wrote: »
    Yar wrote: »
    Meh. I don't consider it such a big deal, but I can see his point.

    Except that Nixon already blew his point away two decades prior.

    Wrong + wrong = ?

    Tradition?

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  • DetharinDetharin Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I agree with him. Look you did something nice, you hung out at the white house. Woohoo. That does not mean they owe you letters thanking you for for it. You just spend the day with one of the most powerful men in the free world and your requesting letters of thanks to be used in your publicity?

    Its nice you put a tour date in Washington DC and sent the president an invite, reminding him that tour dates “have been added to the Jacksons’ tour per your request on The White House Lawn this past spring.” is just snippy. I'm fairly certain the president of the united states is probably a bit to busy to catch your show.

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  • tsmvengytsmvengy Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    I think Reagan may have been the last President to think of the office as more than a position of power.

    Thank you. I haven't had a laugh like that in years.

    lol

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  • Edith UpwardsEdith Upwards Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Michael Jackson was compared to Elvis on the news, which I guess is fitting because when Elvis died he was a fat, has-been, drug-addict, and only the proles didn't see his death coming from a mile away.

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