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Chief Justice John Roberts vs. Michael Jackson
ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderatormod
Though I think it a bit over the top, I can respect the principles Roberts thought he was defending by declining the Presidential letters written to Jackson. It seems absurd today when the White House is often used as a publicity forum for successful artists and sports teams.
I think a lot of people would view this as Roberts being "out of touch", and perhaps rightfully so.
Discuss?
(I also find the last paragraph hilariously ironic)
Wow, a lawyer at the White House decided that the office of the president shouldn't be used as a promotion vehicle for magazines or concert tours?!? The nerve!
I am suprised that anyone would think it appropriate for a celebrity's PR rep to sent text to the White House of a letter that would be implied to be from the President. Try to imagine, say, Rahm Emmanuel's reaction if Justin Timberlake's rep sent such a letter for the President to sign. I'm sure he would say something similar, though probably in fewer words.
I agree with Roberts. Making this into a fuss seems silly.
It shows (at the very least) that he holds the office of the President (and maybe by extention other offices) to be above pop culture exploitation. I'm ok with that.
I agree with Roberts. Making this into a fuss seems silly.
It shows (at the very least) that he holds the office of the President (and maybe by extention other offices) to be above pop culture exploitation. I'm ok with that.
I agree with the principle, certainly.
I think Reagan may have been the last President to think of the office as more than a position of power.
I am not a fan of Roberts, but this seems to be okay in my book.
This. Not that I wouldn't have been OK with it if the letter had gone through. Just doesn't really seem like a big deal.
I think we're all in agreement there, that sending tacit approval for the commercial designs of a pop act isn't something the President should be doing, but Roberts certainly didn't need to be so toolish about it. Perhaps he thought it a waste of his time though, so who knows.
OTOH, lending presidential support and thanks to an act who's working to teach young people about the dangers of drunk driving, isn't totally out of line either.
I agree with him. Look you did something nice, you hung out at the white house. Woohoo. That does not mean they owe you letters thanking you for for it. You just spend the day with one of the most powerful men in the free world and your requesting letters of thanks to be used in your publicity?
Its nice you put a tour date in Washington DC and sent the president an invite, reminding him that tour dates “have been added to the Jacksons’ tour per your request on The White House Lawn this past spring.” is just snippy. I'm fairly certain the president of the united states is probably a bit to busy to catch your show.
Michael Jackson was compared to Elvis on the news, which I guess is fitting because when Elvis died he was a fat, has-been, drug-addict, and only the proles didn't see his death coming from a mile away.
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I am suprised that anyone would think it appropriate for a celebrity's PR rep to sent text to the White House of a letter that would be implied to be from the President. Try to imagine, say, Rahm Emmanuel's reaction if Justin Timberlake's rep sent such a letter for the President to sign. I'm sure he would say something similar, though probably in fewer words.
Except that Nixon already blew his point away two decades prior.
It shows (at the very least) that he holds the office of the President (and maybe by extention other offices) to be above pop culture exploitation. I'm ok with that.
I agree with the principle, certainly.
I think Reagan may have been the last President to think of the office as more than a position of power.
Thank you. I haven't had a laugh like that in years.
Sorry Reagan couldn't live up to your Nixon standard.
This. Not that I wouldn't have been OK with it if the letter had gone through. Just doesn't really seem like a big deal.
I think we're all in agreement there, that sending tacit approval for the commercial designs of a pop act isn't something the President should be doing, but Roberts certainly didn't need to be so toolish about it. Perhaps he thought it a waste of his time though, so who knows.
OTOH, lending presidential support and thanks to an act who's working to teach young people about the dangers of drunk driving, isn't totally out of line either.
Tradition?
Its nice you put a tour date in Washington DC and sent the president an invite, reminding him that tour dates “have been added to the Jacksons’ tour per your request on The White House Lawn this past spring.” is just snippy. I'm fairly certain the president of the united states is probably a bit to busy to catch your show.
lol