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Stevie2SxcStevie2Sxc __BANNED USERS regular
edited July 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
So my mate is obssessed with Transformers, and is determined to make his new car look like Barricade from the 2007 film.

What I want to know is, in the UK is it illegal to make your car look like a slightly altered (decepticon logo, "to punish and enslave" writing) American police car

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  • Bendery It Like BeckhamBendery It Like Beckham Hopeless Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    So my mate is obssessed with Transformers, and is determined to make his new car look like Barricade from the 2007 film.

    What I want to know is, in the UK is it illegal to make your car look like a slightly altered (decepticon logo, "to punish and enslave" writing) American police car

    depends on if American police interceptors look like UK police cars. If he plans on putting lights and sirens on the top of his car I'd go with 'questionable legality'

    In the US you are not allowed to have a car painted similar to a police interceptor (black front/back with white center)

    I heard rumor of an issue with Best Buy's geek squad buggys.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Call up the local police station and ask? They'd probably have the regulation on file or be able to find it. And they'd probably be happy you were proactive.

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  • RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Here in Manitoba, Canada, certain colours of lights on vehicles are restricted to emergency vehicles, and those laws vary from province to province.

    I imagine the situation would be similar in the UK, so if I were him I'd consult the relevant Highway/Traffic legislation.

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  • Nakatomi2010Nakatomi2010 Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    You could probably mimic the overal design of the car, but you wont be allowed to put lights on it..

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  • CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    You could probably mimic the overal design of the car, but you wont be allowed to put lights on it..

    This.

    I'm guessing but I don't think it would be illegal, American police cars look nothing like ours. As others have said it would certainly be illegal to put lights and a siren on it though.

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  • Nakatomi2010Nakatomi2010 Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    It's the lights themselves that would make it illegal...

    when people look in their mirrors and they see red/blue flashing lights they just assume "Oh crap, cops" and drive differently to compensate...

    No lights...

    But you should still be able to get a pretty bad ass lookalike regardless...

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  • Stevie2SxcStevie2Sxc __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    So the lights are a nono. Does that apply if I just have something like the lights but just not working at all? Or is it just fully illegal no matter what?

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Fortunately, you aren't the first person to think of this.

    http://www.dirtytechboys.com/2008/03/mans-decepticon-mustang-is-above-law.html

    Of course, that's America. YMMV.

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm surprised they let him put POLICE on the side. But yeah, that sounds about right.

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  • DelzhandDelzhand Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited June 2009
    I have to admit, I'd probably go with black and white, but instead of POLICE just put a big ol' Decepticon logo.

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt Stepped in it Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    So the lights are a nono. Does that apply if I just have something like the lights but just not working at all? Or is it just fully illegal no matter whu.at?
    I'm going to guess no lights period. I know that's how it works in the U.S. at least. When Robocop's police cruiser was the grand prize in a contest, I remember seeing a picture of the winner posing by his new ride, with the comment in the caption that the lights had to be taken off for legal reasons.

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    IANAL and YMMV, but I'm pretty sure in Canada (Ontario specifically) the light-colour restrictions apply only when the vehicle is in motion.

    So if you wanted to pimp your Deception-cruiser in the parking lot, or your mad tyte underglow neons, it's fine. Just rig them with a switch on the parking brake, similar to how the in-dash DVD players work - if brake is on, lights can be on. If not, they can't.

    Again, IANAL and YMMV. GL HF GG.

    Edit - You know, that gives me another idea for how you can find out. Ask your local riceboy chavs if they've ever been hassled for their eye-raping light choices.

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    So the lights are a nono. Does that apply if I just have something like the lights but just not working at all? Or is it just fully illegal no matter whu.at?
    I'm going to guess no lights period. I know that's how it works in the U.S. at least. When Robocop's police cruiser was the grand prize in a contest, I remember seeing a picture of the winner posing by his new ride, with the comment in the caption that the lights had to be taken off for legal reasons.

    Haha, off-topic, but this reminds me that the redesigned Ford Taurus actually was considered "futuristic" and cutting edge once upon a time.

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  • kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    If he's single, this idea would ensure he stays single, so consider that carefully before you go ahead with this.

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  • Stevie2SxcStevie2Sxc __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    kaliyama wrote: »
    If he's single, this idea would ensure he stays single, so consider that carefully before you go ahead with this.
    No he's got a girlfriend. Well, technically a fiancé now

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  • MushroomStickMushroomStick Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    kaliyama wrote: »
    If he's single, this idea would ensure he stays single, so consider that carefully before you go ahead with this.
    No he's got a girlfriend. Well, technically a fiancé now

    Not for long...

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  • Stevie2SxcStevie2Sxc __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    kaliyama wrote: »
    If he's single, this idea would ensure he stays single, so consider that carefully before you go ahead with this.
    No he's got a girlfriend. Well, technically a fiancé now

    Not for long...
    Nah he's always been on the nerdy side, including painting Optimus Prime on his living room wall, and she's put up with him for 6 years now

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    kaliyama wrote: »
    If he's single, this idea would ensure he stays single, so consider that carefully before you go ahead with this.
    No he's got a girlfriend. Well, technically a fiancé now

    Not for long...
    Nah he's always been on the nerdy side, including painting Optimus Prime on his living room wall, and she's put up with him for 6 years now

    As long as he doesn't make the "transform" noise when he drops trou to reveal his boner before sexy times, I'm sure he's in the clear. :P

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  • SeolSeol Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    kaliyama wrote: »
    If he's single, this idea would ensure he stays single, so consider that carefully before you go ahead with this.
    No he's got a girlfriend. Well, technically a fiancé now

    Not for long...
    Nah he's always been on the nerdy side, including painting Optimus Prime on his living room wall, and she's put up with him for 6 years now

    As long as he doesn't make the "transform" noise when he drops trou to reveal his boner before sexy times, I'm sure he's in the clear. :P
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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I seem to be discharging energon...

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  • CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Seol wrote: »
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    kaliyama wrote: »
    If he's single, this idea would ensure he stays single, so consider that carefully before you go ahead with this.
    No he's got a girlfriend. Well, technically a fiancé now

    Not for long...
    Nah he's always been on the nerdy side, including painting Optimus Prime on his living room wall, and she's put up with him for 6 years now

    As long as he doesn't make the "transform" noise when he drops trou to reveal his boner before sexy times, I'm sure he's in the clear. :P
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    Yeah I would say no lights full stop. The only non emergency vehicles I've ever seen with lights are AA vehicles, those are yellow and I think they only put them on when they're stopped at the side of a motorway.

    As others have said if he takes it to a show and it's stationary or something I don't think he'd get in trouble for having lights on it but if he has it on a public road keep the lights off it.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    The guy in the link above put fake lights on the top, which you might consider. He basically just painted them on. But it doesn't look terrible somehow.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2009
    The lights are what would make it illegal/get you harrassed by the cops. You can paint the car however you like.

    If you want lights (like, for shows, parades, etc) get ones that can be taken off easily and stashed in the trunk.

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  • MushroomStickMushroomStick Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Yeah, when they sell decommissioned cop cars, they don't repaint them.

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  • CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Yeah, when they sell decommissioned cop cars, they don't repaint them.

    This is reminding me of the blues brothers now. :lol:

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  • MetroidZoidMetroidZoid Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Hey OP, make sure your friend damn well puts "To Punish and Enslave" in fancy writing underneath the Decepticon Badge logo.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    In America you can't use blue lights at all and I'm fairly certain that you need a permit to use red lights on a regional basis.

    So I'm sure that the UK has some laws against light colors at the very least.

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  • Stevie2SxcStevie2Sxc __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Hey OP, make sure your friend damn well puts "To Punish and Enslave" in fancy writing underneath the Decepticon Badge logo.
    It'll be there. I'm helping him out with some of the more detailed paintwork, so if he forgets I'll put that on myself

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  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    as far as the lights go, it varies from state to state. here is a good place to get your states rules http://www.policeposers.com/laws.php.

    your best bet is to just call up the police station nearest to you and ask them about it.

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Restrictions on fitting blue warning beacons, special warning lamps and similar devices
    16. No vehicle, other than an emergency vehicle, shall be fitted with-

    (a) a blue warning beacon or special warning lamp, or

    (b) a device which resembles a blue warning beacon or a special warning lamp, whether the same is in working order or not.

    http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_3.htm#(Tii)i6restrictionfittingbluewarningbeaconspecialwarninglampsimilardevice

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  • Stevie2SxcStevie2Sxc __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    So the lights are out then. That was my biggest concern. I'm a little worried about having "POLICE" written very large on the side

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  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Seol wrote: »
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    kaliyama wrote: »
    If he's single, this idea would ensure he stays single, so consider that carefully before you go ahead with this.
    No he's got a girlfriend. Well, technically a fiancé now

    Not for long...
    Nah he's always been on the nerdy side, including painting Optimus Prime on his living room wall, and she's put up with him for 6 years now

    As long as he doesn't make the "transform" noise when he drops trou to reveal his boner before sexy times, I'm sure he's in the clear. :P
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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    So the lights are out then. That was my biggest concern. I'm a little worried about having "POLICE" written very large on the side

    I know that one of the Classic Car mags in the UK ran a police liveried Rover SD1 as one of their projects for a while, so I'd assume you can get away with it. The best bet is probably to get an opinion from the local police in advance, because I'd assume that even if it is perfectly legal, it's going to attract a lot of police attention.

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    So the lights are out then. That was my biggest concern. I'm a little worried about having "POLICE" written very large on the side

    Yeah, that's pretty dumb too. I thought from your original post it was just going to be american cop colours + logo, which I'm pretty sure would be fine.

    Having the word police branded on the side could be in violation of the Police Act 1996 section 90, and at the very least will get you a lot of unwanted attention.

    90. Impersonation, etc. — (1) Any person who with intent to deceive impersonates a member of a police force or special constable, or makes any statement or does any act calculated falsely to suggest that he is such a member or constable, shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale, or to both.

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  • tofutofu Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    FYI in some places (like California) you can't have lights or paint the car to look like a black and white.

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  • Stevie2SxcStevie2Sxc __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Rook wrote: »
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    So the lights are out then. That was my biggest concern. I'm a little worried about having "POLICE" written very large on the side

    Yeah, that's pretty dumb too. I thought from your original post it was just going to be american cop colours + logo, which I'm pretty sure would be fine.

    Having the word police branded on the side could be in violation of the Police Act 1996 section 90, and at the very least will get you a lot of unwanted attention.

    90. Impersonation, etc. — (1) Any person who with intent to deceive impersonates a member of a police force or special constable, or makes any statement or does any act calculated falsely to suggest that he is such a member or constable, shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale, or to both.
    Nah he's making it look as much as possible like Barricade's vehicle mode from the 2007 Transformers film, and that has "police" in massive letters on each door.

    and i think, reading that section, it applies to people impersonating cops, not just driving around in cars that have "police" written on the side. besides the police cars in UK are totally different than american ones, so i doubt he'll get pulled over.

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  • oldsakoldsak Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    kaliyama wrote: »
    If he's single, this idea would ensure he stays single, so consider that carefully before you go ahead with this.
    No he's got a girlfriend. Well, technically a fiancé now

    Not for long...
    Nah he's always been on the nerdy side, including painting Optimus Prime on his living room wall, and she's put up with him for 6 years now

    As long as he doesn't make the "transform" noise when he drops trou to reveal his boner before sexy times, I'm sure he's in the clear. :P

    This would actually make my girlfriend get all hot and bothered.

    Yeah, she's a keeper.

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  • FagatronFagatron Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    kaliyama wrote: »
    If he's single, this idea would ensure he stays single, so consider that carefully before you go ahead with this.
    No he's got a girlfriend. Well, technically a fiancé now

    Not for long...
    Nah he's always been on the nerdy side, including painting Optimus Prime on his living room wall, and she's put up with him for 6 years now

    As long as he doesn't make the "transform" noise when he drops trou to reveal his boner before sexy times, I'm sure he's in the clear. :P

    Doing this next time I see my girlfriend.

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