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Hey guys, thank you all for the advice!
Weaning away is something I am diong, I still enjoy aspects of the game, I just want to work other things in as a routine (see: exercise).
Last night when I got home I told myself, dishes, sweeping, laundry then some WoW. And sure as shit when some menial chores were done it felt alright to sit down and play for a couple hours (instead of 6) before bed.
Getting out and doing things with my lovely girlfriend would be nice, but her raiding schedule doesn't give her scads of free time. Basically she has around 18 hours of week nights tied up in raiding, and that't not including time to farm cash / consumables.
We are fairly new to the town we live in (less then a year) and don't have a lot of ties to people outside of work so WoW basically fills our social and entertainment needs.
I just need to look at it as a "reward" type deal, which I know I have the will power for (quit smoking cold turkey after 7 years).
Thank you for all the help PA! I'll won't tag this as lock please just yet in case anyone has anything to add.
Having an SO with the same habit will likely be problematic.
Does she realize that she plays too much? Or more specifically, does she feel like she plays too much? Is she looking to bring down how often she plays and how much she puts into the game?
Not just time wise either, but emotionally? Anytime anyone spends any amount of time doing an activity or hobby as much as a person might play WoW is absolutely going to get emotionally invested in that thing. Some people are more practical about it, but some others can really go overboard in how much they care about a game and people on the internet. Do you know what I'm talking about? Is something like this evident or present?
What it boils down to is this: If you want it, she has to want it to happen as well. She has to be part of the solution. Her pouring all her time into the game while you are trying to quit and find more productive and beneficial activities to do with your time will either cause problems in your relationship, or cause you to quit your efforts.
18 hours of raiding... my god. Plus farming, that's a part time job! Think about that!
I'm not saying go get another job.
I'm saying she has already got one.
My post was meant to only illustrate that if I am going to do something on the weeknights, that it will most likely be by myself (aside from Wednesdays).
She enjoys playing, and she enjoys raiding, I would not ask her to quit doing something she enjoys doing. We are mature enough to have our own interests (I hope that didn't come across snarky, it's not meant to) and do things on our own. As I said, I wouldn't want her to quit because I know she enjoys it.
We don't raid together, so it's not like I'll have pressure from her to come back and raid, which is a blessing.
I gave up magic 2 years ago because playing competitively was taking up too much time & money.
Then I re-subscribed to WoW.
Now I've canceled my WoW account and started playing magic again in it's place......
I've decided Magic > WoW because real life interactions are better than guild chat, but in both cases it is nice if you can find people who care about each other more than the game to play with.
And with regards to WoW, you've probably beaten the game and continuing is nothing but repetition. I realized that was the case for me.
And if anyone mentions achievements I will punch them
Having an SO with the same habit will likely be problematic.
Does she realize that she plays too much? Or more specifically, does she feel like she plays too much? Is she looking to bring down how often she plays and how much she puts into the game?
Not just time wise either, but emotionally? Anytime anyone spends any amount of time doing an activity or hobby as much as a person might play WoW is absolutely going to get emotionally invested in that thing. Some people are more practical about it, but some others can really go overboard in how much they care about a game and people on the internet. Do you know what I'm talking about? Is something like this evident or present?
What it boils down to is this: If you want it, she has to want it to happen as well. She has to be part of the solution. Her pouring all her time into the game while you are trying to quit and find more productive and beneficial activities to do with your time will either cause problems in your relationship, or cause you to quit your efforts.
18 hours of raiding... my god. Plus farming, that's a part time job! Think about that!
I'm not saying go get another job.
I'm saying she has already got one.
I enjoy raiding for one, and farming takes what...maybe an hour? If i bother... But what Jaded fails to mention is that when I am not raiding I am rarely on WoW. Sure I may log on do a daily (maybe and usually cuz he is playing and doesn't feel like going out), but it is me asking -him- if he wants to go do something else.
The bottom line is I've finally closed WoW in my life, and all it took was the realization that there are way more fun, better, and healthier things to be doing. You don't need to destroy your account, get it banned, sell off your stuff or any of that. Just have the willpower to walk away and stay away.
This is probably the most sensible thing I've read. Deleting the account/getting himself banned/uninstalling all sounds a little extreme when it's not that hard to just cancel the subscription and not renew it.
I played for about 4 years total and that's exactly what I did. Once I realized my account was not active I found much better things to do with my time, at which point I wanted to do those things instead.
I don't think I'll ever really understand how people get addicted to the point where something like selling your account is the only way out. I played the shit out of it, but not once did I feel caught in its grasp or some such nonsense. I still like the game. I keep up on WoW news and patches and whatnot without getting the desire to play again. It's not the life-ruining antichrist some people treat it as.
And if the OP still wants to play, there's ways to do it in smaller amounts. Such as finding a casual guild that say, raids on weekends only.
Having an SO with the same habit will likely be problematic.
Does she realize that she plays too much?
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I enjoy raiding for one, and farming takes what...maybe an hour? If i bother... But what Jaded fails to mention is that when I am not raiding I am rarely on WoW. Sure I may log on do a daily (maybe and usually cuz he is playing and doesn't feel like going out), but it is me asking -him- if he wants to go do something else.
That's good to hear. I'm sure you'll find your S.O. has more time to spend with you now that he's spending less time playing wow. You may find you enjoy having that extra time with him doing something else and return the favor. ;-)
I don't appreciate people who are judgmental against WoW or WoW players, but I understand where they are coming from.
Initially my job was physical and I never watched TV, so 15 hours of WoW a week seemed fine. Eventually I was working a desk job, playing a lot of WoW, watching TV/movies .......suddenly the majority of my life revolved around sitting in front of a screen, which just isn't healthy.
I'm glad I stopped playing WoW, but it's a fun video game like any other.
Seriously the Pinnacle of WoW for me was killing Ony. And seriously fuck Blizzard for designing their content just to eat up time. Instead of introducing new content, they just doubled the effort required to clear everything by adding "hard-modes". Our guild just threw ourselves against Yogg-Saron for a soild week before we downed him, and now we get to do it with one less guardian YAY! I'm all for the challenge, but like Naxx, just slogging through the same dungeon week after week just bored me to tears. At least one-shotting every boss was less stressful and only took 2 hours. Also raiding at 60 meant you got to hit up 3 different zones from the get-go.
So yeah, just keep that in mind, you're better off just playing TF2 with us fellow PA'ers. I assure you'll have just the same amount of enjoyment, if not more, in 45 minutes on a PA server than 4 hours raiding Ulduar.
I recently quit WoW and have been having a blast trying "new" games back from 2004. It's a huge weight off your shoulders to not have to adhere to a raiding schedule, dealing with guild drama, or having to farm gold/mats just to raid and stay competitive.
Try some other games (there are some great deals on Steam and GoG) and you might be surprised at how fun you're having.
If that doesn't work, you might end up quitting out of frustration anyways, which works just as well. I'm referring to the lazy/boring end-game content, de-valuing of so-called "epics," and the general retardedness of the WoW playerbase.
I recommend a game with loot aspects that you can play solo as a good go between. Something like Titan Quest.
Schedule your dates, fun times, or whatever you enjoy the most right on top of your normal game/raid time. Trust me, you'll realize quickly "the opportunity cost for playing wow was...this?!" And you'll never want to play again.
Realize that it is a boring repetitive grind, especially so if you aren't a guild leader and are just a raid drone.
I led raid guilds through every dungeon up to ulduar (wasnt out at the time) and quit because I just go so bored logging in and realized no matter what its the same thing over and over and over again.
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FiggyFighter of the night manChampion of the sunRegistered Userregular
edited July 2009
I get pretty into the MMOs I pick up, but eventually I just realize I'm not actually having any "fun," and they're all the same once the smoke and mirrors are gone.
Just stop playing it. Once you realize how much more free time you have in your day when hours and hours aren't devoted to an MMO, you realize how destructive they can be.
I get pretty into the MMOs I pick up, but eventually I just realize I'm not actually having any "fun," and they're all the same once the smoke and mirrors are gone.
Just stop playing it. Once you realize how much more free time you have in your day when hours and hours aren't devoted to an MMO, you realize how destructive they can be.
Yeah, I quit playing WoW and started drinking...
Wait... what? o_O
Edit: Really though, I'm sure its coincidence, but it's amusing;
Stopped playing WoW, and a few weeks later a girl fell into my lap...
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FiggyFighter of the night manChampion of the sunRegistered Userregular
edited July 2009
It's no coincidence. If you're playing an MMO to the point where it's taking up several hours per day, how are you going to meet a girl?
Even if you do manage to meet someone on the off chance that you go out somewhere with your friends, what the hell are you going to talk about/do together?
"I play WoW pretty much every day. You've caught me on my off day."
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Weaning away is something I am diong, I still enjoy aspects of the game, I just want to work other things in as a routine (see: exercise).
Last night when I got home I told myself, dishes, sweeping, laundry then some WoW. And sure as shit when some menial chores were done it felt alright to sit down and play for a couple hours (instead of 6) before bed.
Getting out and doing things with my lovely girlfriend would be nice, but her raiding schedule doesn't give her scads of free time. Basically she has around 18 hours of week nights tied up in raiding, and that't not including time to farm cash / consumables.
We are fairly new to the town we live in (less then a year) and don't have a lot of ties to people outside of work so WoW basically fills our social and entertainment needs.
I just need to look at it as a "reward" type deal, which I know I have the will power for (quit smoking cold turkey after 7 years).
Thank you for all the help PA! I'll won't tag this as lock please just yet in case anyone has anything to add.
Does she realize that she plays too much? Or more specifically, does she feel like she plays too much? Is she looking to bring down how often she plays and how much she puts into the game?
Not just time wise either, but emotionally? Anytime anyone spends any amount of time doing an activity or hobby as much as a person might play WoW is absolutely going to get emotionally invested in that thing. Some people are more practical about it, but some others can really go overboard in how much they care about a game and people on the internet. Do you know what I'm talking about? Is something like this evident or present?
What it boils down to is this: If you want it, she has to want it to happen as well. She has to be part of the solution. Her pouring all her time into the game while you are trying to quit and find more productive and beneficial activities to do with your time will either cause problems in your relationship, or cause you to quit your efforts.
18 hours of raiding... my god. Plus farming, that's a part time job! Think about that!
I'm not saying go get another job.
I'm saying she has already got one.
She enjoys playing, and she enjoys raiding, I would not ask her to quit doing something she enjoys doing. We are mature enough to have our own interests (I hope that didn't come across snarky, it's not meant to) and do things on our own. As I said, I wouldn't want her to quit because I know she enjoys it.
We don't raid together, so it's not like I'll have pressure from her to come back and raid, which is a blessing.
Then I re-subscribed to WoW.
Now I've canceled my WoW account and started playing magic again in it's place......
I've decided Magic > WoW because real life interactions are better than guild chat, but in both cases it is nice if you can find people who care about each other more than the game to play with.
And with regards to WoW, you've probably beaten the game and continuing is nothing but repetition. I realized that was the case for me.
I enjoy raiding for one, and farming takes what...maybe an hour? If i bother... But what Jaded fails to mention is that when I am not raiding I am rarely on WoW. Sure I may log on do a daily (maybe and usually cuz he is playing and doesn't feel like going out), but it is me asking -him- if he wants to go do something else.
This is probably the most sensible thing I've read. Deleting the account/getting himself banned/uninstalling all sounds a little extreme when it's not that hard to just cancel the subscription and not renew it.
I played for about 4 years total and that's exactly what I did. Once I realized my account was not active I found much better things to do with my time, at which point I wanted to do those things instead.
I don't think I'll ever really understand how people get addicted to the point where something like selling your account is the only way out. I played the shit out of it, but not once did I feel caught in its grasp or some such nonsense. I still like the game. I keep up on WoW news and patches and whatnot without getting the desire to play again. It's not the life-ruining antichrist some people treat it as.
And if the OP still wants to play, there's ways to do it in smaller amounts. Such as finding a casual guild that say, raids on weekends only.
That's good to hear. I'm sure you'll find your S.O. has more time to spend with you now that he's spending less time playing wow. You may find you enjoy having that extra time with him doing something else and return the favor. ;-)
I don't appreciate people who are judgmental against WoW or WoW players, but I understand where they are coming from.
Initially my job was physical and I never watched TV, so 15 hours of WoW a week seemed fine. Eventually I was working a desk job, playing a lot of WoW, watching TV/movies .......suddenly the majority of my life revolved around sitting in front of a screen, which just isn't healthy.
I'm glad I stopped playing WoW, but it's a fun video game like any other.
So yeah, just keep that in mind, you're better off just playing TF2 with us fellow PA'ers. I assure you'll have just the same amount of enjoyment, if not more, in 45 minutes on a PA server than 4 hours raiding Ulduar.
Try some other games (there are some great deals on Steam and GoG) and you might be surprised at how fun you're having.
If that doesn't work, you might end up quitting out of frustration anyways, which works just as well. I'm referring to the lazy/boring end-game content, de-valuing of so-called "epics," and the general retardedness of the WoW playerbase.
Schedule your dates, fun times, or whatever you enjoy the most right on top of your normal game/raid time. Trust me, you'll realize quickly "the opportunity cost for playing wow was...this?!" And you'll never want to play again.
I led raid guilds through every dungeon up to ulduar (wasnt out at the time) and quit because I just go so bored logging in and realized no matter what its the same thing over and over and over again.
Just stop playing it. Once you realize how much more free time you have in your day when hours and hours aren't devoted to an MMO, you realize how destructive they can be.
Yeah, I quit playing WoW and started drinking...
Wait... what? o_O
Edit: Really though, I'm sure its coincidence, but it's amusing;
Stopped playing WoW, and a few weeks later a girl fell into my lap...
Even if you do manage to meet someone on the off chance that you go out somewhere with your friends, what the hell are you going to talk about/do together?
"I play WoW pretty much every day. You've caught me on my off day."