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Unibody MacBook Pro (Boot Camp Overheat lol!)

scarlet st.scarlet st. Registered User regular
edited September 2009 in Moe's Stupid Technology Tavern
So I've googled around a bit and seen many forum posts and discussions about the Unibody MBPs overheating in Windows (via Boot Camp), but the posts seem to be less severe than the problems I'm having.

After 30 minutes (on a good day I might get an hour) of playing current games such as L4D, TF2, etc. the system auto-shuts down to prevent internal problems thanks to overheating. Most of the forum posts I saw were people complaining of the heat that is generated just by normal use of the computer (not games).

The only workaround I've found is to undervolt the thing pretty heavily. Currently using RMClock to test FIDs and VIDs that will give me the most power while keeping the system temperature down. Using CPUID (CPU-Z or whatever else it's called) and Core Temp to monitor temperatures. Doing stress testing and error checking with Prime95 to make sure I have a decently stable undervolted machine.

My problem with all of this is that in the end, the safest environment to be running games is at like 1.97GHz CPU speeds. It's a 2.8GHz processor, though, so I feel like I'm getting shitcanned here.

If you reply with lol get a real computer you can shove off. Macs are great in OSX, this seems to be a Boot Camp problem. I've been toying with getting Sims 3 and running it in OSX so I can try to recreate the overheating problem, because at that point Apple will actually help me with a warranty repair. That's long term.

So basically what it comes down to is this:
Has anyone smarter, better, faster, and stronger than me checked out all of the various FIDs and VIDs for Unibody MBPros so I can skip the Prime95 checking and VID testing?

I agree that undervolting is a temporary fix, but until Apple agrees that a Boot Camp fix needs to happen or a hardware change is warranted, I'd rather be playing TF2 and L4D.

Alternatively, would the fact that it's crashing due to overheat help me get an Apple warranty repair since it's somewhat more violent overheating than others seem to be reporting?

I don't know what sorts of answers I expect with this thread; I just don't know many others who seem to be suffering from this problem (i guess since i don't personally know many other unibody mbpro boot campers)

oh, additionally, I have used Win XP 32-bit, Vista 32-bit, and 7 64-bit. All three OSes seem to suffer the same problems with this overheating issue I'm having. Currently using that smc fan control utility to ramp the fan speeds up to 6000rpm before booting into windows.

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  • scarlet st.scarlet st. Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I'm at index 5 of 10.0x FID with 1.2375V VID, and that pumps out roughly 2.6GHz

    That's not so bad. Prime95 hasn't been causing any overheating, nor has it found any errors. This could be the best I can hope for, I suppose.

    Still waiting on any advice, though.

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  • scarlet st.scarlet st. Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    As if anyone's following this thread, I'll update my findings, here.

    I was up to a 10.0x FID with 1.2375V VID, as I mentioned, but the computer went to sleep mid Prime95 stress test. Upon awakening it and starting the testing again, it overheated nearly instantly. So it seems like the only way to operate at 2.6GHz as I had previously achieved is to work the computer over for like 30-40 minutes, building up to 10.0x FID (that is, starting at 2.0GHz cpu and working the computer up to 2.6GHz). Otherwise it merely overheats right away.

    Is there any sense behind this strange method???

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  • AzioAzio Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    You might want to get the fans cleaned or replaced. Generally, when a gaming laptop overheats, dust in the fans is the most likely culprit. The ducts get clogged with dust and debris, and because the machine has only barely enough cooling to stay operational under ideal conditions, this can cause problems. After about 6 months with my 2007 MBP it started crashing a lot in games. I mentioned this when I had to take it in for unrelated repairs and the servicer replaced the fans for me and it worked like new again.

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  • scarlet st.scarlet st. Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I'll look into it at work on Monday. Good idea; will report back.

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  • lynxshklynxshk Registered User new member
    edited September 2009
    hi, i have the same problem with my late 2008 unibody mbp with the 512mb 9600GT

    i did a lot of gaming on windows xp, and i had the same problem, and this was from a practically new computer, i got lots of crashes and temps as high as 96c i did the same thing you did undleclock both the gpu and the processor, but it didnt feel right, the computer got more stable tho.


    is interesting different games had different results, for example i played a lot of farcry2 wich is graphically intensive and it was stable, but with STALKER i couldnt play for more than half an hour or less, and totally random with BF2, most of the time i could play for hours but someitimes it just shut down, and it would feel burning to the touch!

    i got too scared so i uninstalled xp while i upgrade to 10.6 and wait to buy some kind of laptop cooler because im really concerned about its durability.

    i dont experience the same problem while playing sims 3 or cod 4 on osx, but then it dosnt look as good either.

    anyways, just letting u know ure not alone keep posting if u find a solution or had to get an apple repair service, too bad it isnt much of an option for me, as im in craphole venezuela

    Cheers

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  • HoundxHoundx Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Try using nvtune to manually set the fan speed on your gpu.

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  • CKyleCKyle Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Do you have the latest drivers for your video card installed? I think I read once that the nvidia drivers that come on the Leopard install disk include fan controls. Without them, the fans may not be running at the correct speed. You may have to manually explore the Leopard disk in Windows to find the installer for mobile nvidia drivers if you haven't already.

    If you do have good drivers installed, then dusty fans are likely the culprit as suggested. Looking at my computer right now, though, I can't figure out where the holes are for the dust to get in. :P

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  • UselesswarriorUselesswarrior Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    CKyle wrote: »
    Do you have the latest drivers for your video card installed? I think I read once that the nvidia drivers that come on the Leopard install disk include fan controls. Without them, the fans may not be running at the correct speed. You may have to manually explore the Leopard disk in Windows to find the installer for mobile nvidia drivers if you haven't already.

    If you do have good drivers installed, then dusty fans are likely the culprit as suggested. Looking at my computer right now, though, I can't figure out where the holes are for the dust to get in. :P

    I'm seconding this suggestion. Once I had the proper drivers installed my Macbook ran significantly cooler under bootcamp.

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