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I think I've throughly screwed myself.

LardalishLardalish Registered User regular
edited December 2006 in Help / Advice Forum
Well, I just took my last exam of this semester and I failed 3 out of the 4 classes, and maybe even the fourth. My GPA wasnt that great coming into the semester, and this is my 5th semester here. Im hoping I can fix that next semester, actually start working hard for my grades, but with the grades Im expecting from this semester, Im not even sure Ill still be here. Is there anything I can do to stay on another semester? Im going to send my advisor an email as soon as I post this but I have no idea when he will get it because winter break is starting and he might be gone already.

So is there anything I can do? Or have I just royally fucked myself beyond repair?

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  • ddahcmaiddahcmai Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Check your school policy on academic probation. My roommate went to maybe 10 classes this whole semester, but he gets all next semester to bring his grades up, no matter how low his GPA is. Normally schools will give you a sort of grace period to fix things when stuff like this happens.

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  • InvisibleInvisible Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Also, what level classes are we talking about? I know some schools let you retake a certain amount of 200 level and below courses. So if they're lower level, you may be able to retake some of them next semester and have the grade completely replaced.

    Also are these classes in your major?

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  • RaggaholicRaggaholic Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    In situations like this, your professor would have been the best route. If you had one test left, it would have probably helped going to see them... tell them a story of woes/how you're trying/whatever, and get them on your side.

    I had been failing many a class through undergrad due to slacking, partying, whatever, and had many professors do a "what you get on the final will be your grade" deal with me.

    That's a little too late for this particular situation, but something to keep in mind for the future.

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  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Last year the demon that is WoW stole my soul and my grades went to hell for it. I got a letter shortyly after saying I was on academic probation and if I had one more semester like that they would kick me out of school. Needless to say I hit the books hard this semester and took a couple of summer classes too. I didn't fail any of my classes to get on probation though so I don't know how hard your school is gonna come down on you. Best of luck to ya though.


    On a personal note I think it was BS that I was put on probation in the first place. I had been on the deans list a couple times before this and had never really had a horrible semester. But I tank one semester and they are ready to boot me out the door, lame.

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  • LardalishLardalish Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    one of the ones I failed was in my major, but technically I shouldnt have been allowed to take it (one of the pre reqs was a class I was taking the same semester).

    I know that my university has a probation thing, and unfortunately Ive been on it once. I pulled it back up and got off probation, but I dont know if I can get back on again, and this seems like alittle more than just a dip in the GPA (which is what got me on probation in the first place).

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  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    If for whatever reason you're actually put on academic suspension, know it's not the end of the world. You either wait the set time (usually a couple terms) and agree to academic counseling before coming back, or you take some classes at a community college and show them to your advisor. You're not kicked out of school forever or anything.

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  • Kewop DecamKewop Decam Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    My brother living on Academic Probation due to laziness. He ended up graduating with a 3.2 after they forced him to change his major. He didn't mine changing for all he cared about was sex and the Dreamcast.

    You could do this two ways...

    1. My roommate would talk to counselors and tell them a family member was really ill in order to get the last semester removed. This is VERY HARD to do and also kind of a horrible thing to do. You'd have to basically lie and say like your dad hand an aneurysm or something like that. I don't suggest this route because it shows a extreme lack of integrity, but if you're desperate... you could try it.

    OR

    2. Deal with it and work hard to bring your grades up. Getting really bad grades in one semester and brining yourself up next semester and every semester after that can make you look a lot better than getting straight As in some people's eyes. It shows that you can fall, but get yourself back up easily. Some people have no idea how a straight A person will react to failure, but if you can show you can deal with it and then get back on your feet it says a lot. Now, not everyone thinks like this so keep that in mind too.

    Why did you fail your classes? I understand you were taking one due to an override, but what was the main reason? Video games, laziness, drunken stupors?

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  • LardalishLardalish Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Ok, the probation here (and maybe theres multiple levels of probation) but my GPA got low so they put me on it and what it was is I kept taking classes, but if I didnt pull it up in like 2 semesters that was it.



    as for why I failed? I was just apathetic (course at this point, Im wondering if that first "a" should be there). I'd get the HW and be like meh, I dont really care. When I didnt do my work, it wasnt even because I wanted to do something else more, I just didnt want to do my work. Im not sure what my problem is, I love my major (mechanical engineering), and when I take classes that are directly related to it I ace them. By directly related, I mean that thermodynamics is part of the major, but Im not majoring in thermo, but the design class I had a couple semesters ago was designing things using the designprogram and I loved that class, aced it.

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  • Jimmy KingJimmy King Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I and many of my friends went through the exact same thing as you're going through. My understanding is that it's actually pretty common. Some people just aren't ready for college at the time that we're expected to go into it.

    We've all gotten through it different ways. Myself, I said the hell with it, dropped out temporarily and started working full time. I've slowly worked my way up through the IT food chain, but it's been tough and continues to get tougher. A few years of working full time, especially after having it get tough to keep moving up, has given me the motivation I need to do well in school, though. I've since gone back and am pulling a ~3.8 GPA.

    I'm not saying this is my recommendation, it's just what I've done. It certainly has some problems even once returning to school. I now have bills that require me to keep working full time. This means 1-2 classes/semester, which any degree, even an AA, takes a long fucking time at this pace. By the time I actually have a BA/BS I'll damned near be ready to retire.

    Some of my friends went to community college. The workload was easier and the classes were smaller. This made it easier for them to adjust, get their GPA back up, and still continue with school. Towards the end it still meant holding down a full time job and taking classes, but isn't nearly as time consuming as the route I took.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    If you had gone to the counseling office prior to the end of the semester, it was very likely they could have done something to help you. It sounds like you might be depressed, or have some other issues going on that is imparing your school work.

    However, since you've pretty much sunk the battle-ship, you are most likely going to be put back on academic probation, provided you got off it since the last time you were put on. Schools come down hard on grades, but are pretty good about offering second, third, and even fourth chances. One thing you should also check is how this will effect your financial aid if you get any (and if you don't, how it will effect your parents).

    Honestly though, it is highly unlikely they will kick you out of school. You'll just have to work incredibly hard next semester to bring your grades up.

    Oh, and if you play WOW, cancel it now, delete your characters, and uninstall it. I can't tell you how many of my students I've seen drop out over that game.

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  • skimbleshanksskimbleshanks __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2006
    I'm gonna piggyback on this thread. I'm in pretty much the same boat, for more or less the same reasons. I think that part of my problem is that I've been trying to stretch myself too thin. I'm paying too much rent on the apartment I'm sharing, and my job doesn't pay me that much to begin with. add that financial stress to my car dying on me mid-semester and you should begin to get the picture. to top it off my girlfriend is probably the neediest person in the world. This basically led to me being forced out of my office in the local Phi Theta Kappa chapter. I've decided to take a semester off and get my life back into order before heading back to school and fixing my grades. Is that a prudent thing to do?

    edit: also, dwarf fortress

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  • Kaboodles_The_AssassinKaboodles_The_Assassin Kill the meat. Save the metal.Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    AHAHAHAHAHA fuck me. What a cruel twist of fate.

    Yesterday at about 6 pm, I'm sitting in front of my computer cramming for my chemistry exam that I thought was starting in an hour. I open up my syllabus to check the exam location, and it turns out the exam was already over. 2 hours over, to be exact. Somehow I had gotten my engineering and chemistry syllabi mixed up in my head. So naturally I'm thinking OH JESUS FUCK so I email my professor about it. I sit there for about an hour ready to strangle a kitten or something equally innocent, when I receive a reply from my professor, informing me that another professor was having her exam the next morning (ie. this morning) and that I could take it instead.

    After engaging in celebratory acts, I went on my merry way with cramming, much more relaxed obviously since I now have a whole night to study. What luck! Someone up there really likes me!

    Anyways, flash forward to 30 minutes ago, and I've just taken my make-up, gift-from-God chemistry exam, and now I'm studying for my engineering , when I go to check my engineering syllabus for exam locations. Ok, so the exam is scheduled for Thursday, 12/14/2006, 7:45 AM, just as expect - AAAHHH FUCK! AM IS NOT PM OH SHIT...

    I'm awaiting a reply to the email as I'm typing this, although I can't really expect a deus ex machina escape out of this one, since it seems all of the engineering classes took their exams at once. You'd think that I'd learn after the first time, but I guess not.

    tl,dr: I missed two final exams in the span of 24 hours, for pretty much the exact same reason. Got to take a make-up for one, but probably not for the other.

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  • Kewop DecamKewop Decam Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Well, don't be like my roommate and be in college for 2 years and have 6 credits.. yes only fucking 6 credits with a 0.3 GPA.

    Sometimes you gotta be your own motivator. You gotta buckle down and just do the work. You say you like the subject, so switching majors doesn't seem like something you need to consider. You just need to find ways to motivate yourself to do the work, no matter how boring it may be.

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  • Jimmy KingJimmy King Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Heh, I did a similar thing kaboodles... not to get this too far off topic. My first attempt at college finals week comes up, I look to see when my comp sci final is... oh hey, look at that, it was last fucking week for some reason.

    Same semester I'm failing trig horribly because the teacher was absolutely awful, right off the boat from china, most of the class was failing because we couldn't understand him. To top it off, he was very absent minded. He would have us write out 2-3 pages of notes on how to solve something and then go "oh, no no no, this alll wrong. I sorry, I tell you wrong. I start over." So the final comes and I'm like "sure, whatever. I'm not gonna pass anyway." so I skip it. Turns out he gave anyone who showed up for the final a minimum of a C in the class no matter what they actually earned.

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  • SkyGheNeSkyGheNe Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Jimmy King wrote:
    Heh, I did a similar thing kaboodles... not to get this too far off topic. My first attempt at college finals week comes up, I look to see when my comp sci final is... oh hey, look at that, it was last fucking week for some reason.

    Same semester I'm failing trig horribly because the teacher was absolutely awful, right off the boat from china, most of the class was failing because we couldn't understand him. To top it off, he was very absent minded. He would have us write out 2-3 pages of notes on how to solve something and then go "oh, no no no, this alll wrong. I sorry, I tell you wrong. I start over." So the final comes and I'm like "sure, whatever. I'm not gonna pass anyway." so I skip it. Turns out he gave anyone who showed up for the final a minimum of a C in the class no matter what they actually earned.

    That was really generous of him.

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  • variantvariant Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Man I fucked up bigtime this semester too, two Cs, one A, an Incomplete, and an F in abnormal psychology(i failed this last semester too! fuck.)

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  • blanknogoblanknogo Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    AHAHAHAHAHA fuck me. What a cruel twist of fate.

    Yesterday at about 6 pm, I'm sitting in front of my computer cramming for my chemistry exam that I thought was starting in an hour. I open up my syllabus to check the exam location, and it turns out the exam was already over. 2 hours over, to be exact. Somehow I had gotten my engineering and chemistry syllabi mixed up in my head. So naturally I'm thinking OH JESUS FUCK so I email my professor about it. I sit there for about an hour ready to strangle a kitten or something equally innocent, when I receive a reply from my professor, informing me that another professor was having her exam the next morning (ie. this morning) and that I could take it instead.

    After engaging in celebratory acts, I went on my merry way with cramming, much more relaxed obviously since I now have a whole night to study. What luck! Someone up there really likes me!

    Anyways, flash forward to 30 minutes ago, and I've just taken my make-up, gift-from-God chemistry exam, and now I'm studying for my engineering , when I go to check my engineering syllabus for exam locations. Ok, so the exam is scheduled for Thursday, 12/14/2006, 7:45 AM, just as expect - AAAHHH FUCK! AM IS NOT PM OH SHIT...

    I'm awaiting a reply to the email as I'm typing this, although I can't really expect a deus ex machina escape out of this one, since it seems all of the engineering classes took their exams at once. You'd think that I'd learn after the first time, but I guess not.

    tl,dr: I missed two final exams in the span of 24 hours, for pretty much the exact same reason. Got to take a make-up for one, but probably not for the other.

    That story makes me shiver because I worry about that exact thing happening to me all the time. Thus, I check my exams each morning and each evening to make sure they haven't changed on me.

    My advice though is to get a calendar, lol. Maybe use Outlook or iCal and put in plenty of notifiers.

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  • supertallsupertall Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    blanknogo, I don't know what school you go to, but I'm sure it operates somewhat similar to mine. That is, whatever it says on the course sylabus about dates and times for exams is written in stone. It cannot be changed without unanimous consent of the class.

    Just make sure you read it right the first time.

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  • Kaboodles_The_AssassinKaboodles_The_Assassin Kill the meat. Save the metal.Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    supertall wrote:
    blanknogo, I don't know what school you go to, but I'm sure it operates somewhat similar to mine. That is, whatever it says on the course sylabus about dates and times for exams is written in stone. It cannot be changed without unanimous consent of the class.

    Just make sure you read it right the first time.

    That's nuts man. Over here we can request to reschedule our exams a few weeks in advance, especially if you end up with 3 within a 24 hour period.

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  • KreutzKreutz Blackwater Park, IARegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Lardalish wrote:
    as for why I failed? I was just apathetic (course at this point, Im wondering if that first "a" should be there). I'd get the HW and be like meh, I dont really care. When I didnt do my work, it wasnt even because I wanted to do something else more, I just didnt want to do my work. Im not sure what my problem is, I love my major (mechanical engineering), and when I take classes that are directly related to it I ace them. By directly related, I mean that thermodynamics is part of the major, but Im not majoring in thermo, but the design class I had a couple semesters ago was designing things using the design program and I loved that class, aced it.
    I'm also an ME, and I'm kinda going through the exact same thing. I love mechanical engineering, but I just can't get into the other classes I have to take. I got a C in engineering chem and I've consistently pulled the bare minimum for my calc classes, but I get A's in my design classes and I tutor an intro to Statics course. I'm of the personal opinion that the engineering community expects MEs to be renaissance men with regards to the wide range of things they make us take.

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  • GafotoGafoto Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Are you sure you're in the right major?

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  • RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I've been on academic probation twice after I got my warnings

    need a 2.0 here to stay in

    1st time I got a 1.97, was dismissed, wrote a letter of pledge and got back in

    next semester I got a 1.95, dismissed again, wrote a better letter and got back in if I met my advisor 3 times a month


    this semester I pulled up my grades and am getting off it

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  • ZsetrekZsetrek Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Gafoto wrote:
    Are you sure you're in the right major?

    Good question. I'd talk to a course councillor about changing your course to reflect your interests.

    After I totally bombed out in first year Uni, I immediately changed my major to something that I hadn't done since High School. I also took a summer school - which is something I'd highly reccomend - and worked my ass off. I used the marks from that summer school course to leverage my way into the same position I would have been had I not failed.

    The key to doing well in school is to take responsibility for your own learning. Don't enjoy something? Unless you absolutely have to take it, change up and do something you like/will do well in.

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  • Big DookieBig Dookie Smells great! DownriverRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    variant wrote:
    Man I fucked up bigtime this semester too, two Cs, one A, an Incomplete, and an F in abnormal psychology(i failed this last semester too! fuck.)
    Pretty much the same here (except for the last semester thing). I actually had a decent GPA coming into this semester (3.4), but now because of an F and a Q-Drop, it slipped all the way down to almost a 3.0. I'll be retaking the classes in the spring though, so hopefully I can boost it back up again.

    To the OP, don't stress too much. As others have said, your life isn't over. You might have to walk away from school for a bit, or retake some classes, or something else. You'll get it right with time though, trust me.

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  • opticaloptical Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I was kinda in a similiar situation, 1st semester I ended up with a 1.7 gpa, got put on probation. 2nd semester I just completely fuck up and got a 1.5 gpa, and got dismissed. I managed to get back in with a letter saying why I fucked up and had to show that the situation has changed so it wouldn't happen again, just had to switch majors and now I have to maintain a gpa over 2.5. I'm finishing up my 3rd semester and will probably have around a 2.7 gpa. It was unfortunate that it took me a year to learn that I have to treat these college classes differently than high school. But to my credit, I haven't failed a single class =x

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  • GoodOmensGoodOmens Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    My advice to the OP: arrange a time, ASAP, to speak to your professors and the Dean of your department. Before that, though, consider very strongly why this is happening. Just telling them that you're apathetic isn't going to go well. You need to try to figure out why you don't care about the classes.

    It may be time to consider a change in major, or school. It may be time to consider that you're simply not ready for college. There's no shame in that, sometimes people just need to get away from school, get a job for a while. It's very tough to go back, but it can be done. If what's going on right now isn't working, that's probably a sign that a change is needed.

    That said, don't wait any longer on this. The sooner you address the issue, in a calm and mature way, the better the eventual results will be. Good luck.

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