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Gabe and Tycho as anime women?

PinkNovaPinkNova regular
edited December 2006 in Artist's Corner
I'm new, and actually only joined because I wanted to know if this was a good idea or not. I like to draw anime comics, and decided to incorporate Gabe and Tycho as anime women.

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Just a quick sketch on my drawing tablet, but I was thinking of doing a parody comic for fun.

Is this a bad idea?

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    DMACDMAC Come at me, bro! Moderator mod
    edited December 2006
    :lol:

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    PinkNovaPinkNova regular
    edited December 2006
    DMAC wrote:
    :lol:

    Bad idea, huh?

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    Vargas PrimeVargas Prime King of Nothing Just a ShowRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Yeah. Sorry.

    I can't think of any possible reason that Gabe and Tycho would work better (or anywhere near as well, for that matter) as anime girls. Unless you were going to change the subject matter so that it specifically pertained to anime girls.

    Which then would beg the question... why use "Anime Girl Gabe" and "Anime Girl Tycho" instead of just creating your very own completely generic and overused anime girls?

    PS - Don't take that last comment as me condoning using the anime girl gimmick. Because I don't. And you WILL go to hell, eventually.

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    PhonehandPhonehand Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Penny-Arcade hentai

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    PinkNovaPinkNova regular
    edited December 2006
    Yeah. Sorry.

    I can't think of any possible reason that Gabe and Tycho would work better (or anywhere near as well, for that matter) as anime girls. Unless you were going to change the subject matter so that it specifically pertained to anime girls.

    Which then would beg the question... why use "Anime Girl Gabe" and "Anime Girl Tycho" instead of just creating your very own completely generic and overused anime girls?

    No, I wasn't going to use it as a series of comics, just one parody. Like Monkey, when they found him dead behind the TV in a tangle of wires. He was always more into D&D and anime. (I think it was Monkey, he had red hair)

    That is what gave me the idea, but I didn't know if it would be insulting, or a good laugh at the fact that they were, well, anime women. And have a comic be about HarvestMoon or DDR.

    The whole idea is it would be on if it had a different point of view.

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    PinkNovaPinkNova regular
    edited December 2006
    Phonehand wrote:
    Penny-Arcade hentai

    That would be funny, yet disturbing.

    Yet disturbing.

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    Vargas PrimeVargas Prime King of Nothing Just a ShowRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Well, if you really wanted to do it, no one would stop you.

    But I'll offer you a pre-emptive critique just based on the piece above.

    The only thing in the sketch above that even resembles the PA guys is the pacman symbol on "Anime Girl Gabe's" shirt. And the only reason I'm assuming that one is Gabe is because she's wearing the pacman shirt.

    Unless you were going to blatantly ape Gabe's drawing style in order to translate the characters into female versions of themselves, I can't imagine how you're going to make them instantly recognizable as parodies of the PA characters. I don't think the anime thing is going to work. And that's a good thing.

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    erisian popeerisian pope Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Phonehand wrote:
    Penny-Arcade hentai

    O_O Div and Frank are tentacle-beasts?


    I think you have a winner of an idea kekekekekeke ^_______^

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    DMACDMAC Come at me, bro! Moderator mod
    edited December 2006
    Also, the figures you drew above look like they were drawn by referencing other drawings and trying to imitate the lines, not by "building" the figures out of basic forms.

    If you were going to do this, I agree that some elements of Gabe's style should still be present, as should the personalities of the characters. How to Draw Manga + Pac Man shirt isn't going to cut it.

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    PinkNovaPinkNova regular
    edited December 2006
    I'll work with the idea, and go on with it if I don't find it insulting.

    I thought I'd get a more openminded response.

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    DMACDMAC Come at me, bro! Moderator mod
    edited December 2006
    You clearly didn't take the time to lurk before posting.

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    CamCam Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    PinkNova wrote:
    I'll work with the idea, and go on with it if I don't find it insulting.

    I thought I'd get a more openminded response.
    I think you might want to leave now.

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    PinkNovaPinkNova regular
    edited December 2006
    DMAC wrote:
    Also, the figures you drew above look like they were drawn by referencing other drawings and trying to imitate the lines, not by "building" the figures out of basic forms.

    If you were going to do this, I agree that some elements of Gabe's style should still be present, as should the personalities of the characters. How to Draw Manga + Pac Man shirt isn't going to cut it.

    I haven't set up the mysql database for my gallery on my server yet. But I have been drawing anime based comics for a while actually. I don't/didn't reference anything except memory.

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    PinkNovaPinkNova regular
    edited December 2006
    Cam wrote:
    PinkNova wrote:
    I'll work with the idea, and go on with it if I don't find it insulting.

    I thought I'd get a more openminded response.
    I think you might want to leave now.

    I just didn't expect the whole, "blasphemy!" thing. Maybe, "Creative, but very bad idea. Now go back to the drawing board."

    edit: I know it wasn't outright like that. I'll just work on it and try to make it better.

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    erisian popeerisian pope Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Actually, I don't see any posts that say anything like "Blasphemy."

    DMAC laughed. That could go either way but suggests to me that the idea seems amusing.

    Vargas said it seemed uninteresting to blend them.

    Phonehand suggested taking it a step further (as did I).

    DMAC offered a suggestion to flesh the idea out (copy a bit more of Gabe's style to make the blendoing more apparent).

    Cam said leave now when you complained about the responses. And that was good advice because usually when someone gets defensive after respond to their first post of their art ever here then the thread tends to go downhill and get a more flame-like.

    Don't be so sensitive. Look for the usefulness in people's responses (and there is a little bit here) and be happy. Jeez.

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    PinkNovaPinkNova regular
    edited December 2006
    Um, I edited my other post before hand.

    -but yeah I understand what your saying. I'll work on it, and come back after finals.

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    DMACDMAC Come at me, bro! Moderator mod
    edited December 2006
    DMAC laughed. That could go either way but suggests to me that the idea seems amusing.

    Actually, the idea of registering just to see if this bad idea was a bad idea is what I was laughing at. The idea could work but not with the raw materials on display here.

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    Vargas PrimeVargas Prime King of Nothing Just a ShowRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    PinkNova wrote:
    I just didn't expect the whole, "blasphemy!" thing. Maybe, "Creative, but very bad idea. Now go back to the drawing board."

    I wasn't yelling "blasphemy." I'm just telling you what I think of your idea. The "anime style comics" thing is overdone, and the number of people who do it "well" is extremely small. So right there, you've locked yourself into a generic concept that is very difficult to pull off well.

    Think about Gabe and Tycho as characters. Think about everything that makes them recognizable. Everything that makes you identify them as Gabe and Tycho are because of Gabe's style, and how he draws them. They're just two regular guys, drawn in Gabe's particular style. If you abandon that style, and draw the same two guys in a completely anime style, you take away everything that makes them Gabe and Tycho. Now make them female, and it just compounds the problem.

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    erisian popeerisian pope Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Damn you!!! shakefist.gif


    I'm not huge on anime, but I agree with the idea of adding some gabe-art-elements to cement the connection. What about giving She-Gabe a bit of a pompodour or whatever one would call Gabe's insane hair? I dunno what you could do with She-Tycho (maybe sideburns?)...

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    PinkNovaPinkNova regular
    edited December 2006
    DMAC wrote:
    DMAC laughed. That could go either way but suggests to me that the idea seems amusing.

    Actually, the idea of registering just to see if this bad idea was a bad idea is what I was laughing at. The idea could work but not with the raw materials on display here.

    No, that was just a sketch. I'll be back in a couple weeks and show everyone.

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    erisian popeerisian pope Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    DMAC wrote:
    DMAC laughed. That could go either way but suggests to me that the idea seems amusing.

    Actually, the idea of registering just to see if this bad idea was a bad idea is what I was laughing at. The idea could work but not with the raw materials on display here.

    Fair enough. That was my second guess.

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    paulwindpaulwind Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    PinkNova wrote:
    DMAC wrote:
    DMAC laughed. That could go either way but suggests to me that the idea seems amusing.

    Actually, the idea of registering just to see if this bad idea was a bad idea is what I was laughing at. The idea could work but not with the raw materials on display here.

    No, that was just a sketch. I'll be back in a couple weeks and show everyone.

    You know... we have a stickied topic just for that.

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    SheriSheri Resident Fluffer My Living RoomRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    PinkNova wrote:
    Cam wrote:
    PinkNova wrote:
    I'll work with the idea, and go on with it if I don't find it insulting.

    I thought I'd get a more openminded response.
    I think you might want to leave now.

    I just didn't expect the whole, "blasphemy!" thing. Maybe, "Creative, but very bad idea. Now go back to the drawing board."

    edit: I know it wasn't outright like that. I'll just work on it and try to make it better.

    'Blasphemy' implies that those who responded felt you were tarnishing the name of something holy. That 'something holy' would have to be either Gabe's art or anime and it is quite obviously not the latter. Additionally, none of the responses implied that you were doing Gabe an injustice, or even that they hold Gabe's art as something sacred.

    And you probably didn't get 'Creative, but very bad idea' because, well, it isn't all that creative.

    When I read your first sentences about it being 'if Gabe and Tycho were ladies,' I expected Gabe and Tycho as female versions of themselves in a style similar to Gabe's. When I saw your drawing, the only thing that even gives the idea that they might be Gabe and Tycho is the Pac-Man on Gabe's shirt (as mentioned earlier). Aside from that, there's nothing that makes them even similar to Gabe or Tycho. So while doing female versions of G&T in the PA style might be a worthwhile, perhaps even creative, parody, this certainly is not.

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    Vargas PrimeVargas Prime King of Nothing Just a ShowRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Sheri wrote:
    Additionally, none of the responses implied that you were doing Gabe a disjustice

    That would be "an injustice."

    Oh, shi--- This isn't Writer's Block...

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    PhonehandPhonehand Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    oh shi-

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    SheriSheri Resident Fluffer My Living RoomRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Sheri wrote:
    Additionally, none of the responses implied that you were doing Gabe a disjustice

    That would be "an injustice."

    Oh, shi--- This isn't Writer's Block...

    Bitch, I ninja'd that shit.

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    Vargas PrimeVargas Prime King of Nothing Just a ShowRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Oh no, I was pwn'd.

    I think.

    Was I? I never know.

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    MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Nothing in this character design says Gabe & Tycho. Look for a physical trait and bring it out through the design.

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    Carl with a KCarl with a K Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Phonehand wrote:
    Penny-Arcade hentai
    seen it

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Christ, is this the shit you guys have to deal with reguarly?

    That sucks.

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    CG FaggotryCG Faggotry BristolRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Why is anime so popular? Christ it's not that good in general. It has no right to be so widespread.

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    Carl with a KCarl with a K Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Why is anime so popular? Christ it's not that good in general. It has no right to be so widespread.
    oh you mean

    japanimation

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    TheBogTheBog Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Time for some hypocricy.

    Lets not turn this into another hate/love anime thread.

    Anime is fine in general, you've just been exposed to bullshit like DBZ or Inuyasha or something. Oh, by the way, lets not forget the mighty western animation like Street Sharks, Mighty Max, and that Zelda cartoon. Gawd those were beautiful.

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    It's already been said, but they really need to be more distinct. There's nothing really there telling us is it's Gabe (Gabrielle?) and Tycho (I can't think of a good female name for this one...). It just looks like Generic Anime Girl In A Pacman Shirt and her sidekick Generic Anime Girl Who Isn't In A Pacman Shirt.

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    M2tMM2tM Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    You know, I keep forgetting why I like this forum so much.

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    (ohms)Crunchy(ohms)Crunchy Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Hahah, what the hell is this? :lol:

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    StudioZELStudioZEL ConnecticutRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Nothing in this character design says Gabe & Tycho. Look for a physical trait and bring it out through the design.

    He's right, if you're actually interested in pursuing this, at least borrow some traits.

    For example, this is what I doodled up just doing the faces.

    PA_anime.jpg

    Just food for thought.

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2006
    Sheri wrote:
    Additionally, none of the responses implied that you were doing Gabe a disjustice

    That would be "an injustice."

    Oh, shi--- This isn't Writer's Block...
    STAY OFF MY TURF

    (or on, really you're welcome)

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    CatnipCatCatnipCat Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    StudioZEL wrote:
    PA_anime.jpg

    What the hell is up with Gabe's hair in that picture? I mean, it usually looks like it's taking over his head, but it looks like if he tilted his head down he'd stab his heart out with that giant bang.

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    earthwormadamearthwormadam ancient crust Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Even though the PA is one of the better webcomics out there, the Gabe and Tycho designs are still extremely generic. I cannot fathom why you did what you have done. As Zel pointed out, you could at least look at the charactaristics of the original characters, but what is the point?

    Go draw something you thought of yourself. You are gaining nothing at this attempt.

    You should be glad you didn't get MORE rude responses, because this is such a horrid idea to begin with.

    You have sucessfully turned already generic characters into super generic anime characters. This is a new low for the internets.

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