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There Will Be Brawl: Basically HBO+Nintendo

KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
edited January 2010 in Games and Technology
So there's a show

It's called "There will be Brawl"
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It's amazing.

No it's more amazing then you're thinking after I said that.

It's on the Escapist and has it's own site with news and episodes.

Basically, it's an HBO drama, but with the characters from Super Smash Bros: Brawl.

It includes such awesome things like: Kirby is a cannibal. Samus is a stripper, pretty much all the elves from Zelda are strippers. Link is a corrupt police chief. Seriously this shit is incredible. Also every girl in the series that appears is hot. Really hot.

But that's not the point.

The point is that the concept is pretty damn genius, and considering the budget, the writing and acting are fantastic. So, since we don't have a thread for it already, we now have a thread for it. Anyone notice any fun things? How great is this? When a new episode comes, let's talk about it. How hot is Samus? Did you know that the actress playing Zelda is in fact not an actress but a costume designer? How about that Luigi, one of the best actors on the show, is mostly a comedian, despite totally being able to pull off dark humor/drama? Ganondorf, one of the other strong actors, is a VA for a bunch of games, including Brutal Legend, Fei-Long for Street Fighter IV, and World of Warcraft(I know, indie game, but you may have heard of it)

Let's have this thread for TWBB, and leave the Unskippable thread to the whole thing I guess it's about maybe or something.

Oh right. When does it update? The final Friday every month.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    It's unique, I'll give it that.

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  • TaranisTaranis Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    It's dark, it's funny in a subtle sort of way, the acting is great (for a free show on the internet), and the writing is decent. I like this show, more people should watch it.

    Here's the trailer:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_y5kiPuAGk

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  • MegaMekMegaMek Girls like girls. Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    This is certainly entertaining. I'm not sure if it's good or not yet.

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  • ArkanArkan Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Wario is also played by the same guy who did Ryu in Street Fighter 4, and Gohan/the narrator-announcer-voiceover guy in DBZ.

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    I think it's hard for someone not to rage at mario kart, while shouting "Fuck you Donkey Kong. Whose dick did you suck to get all those red shells?"
  • TaranisTaranis Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I always thought a chick did Gohan's voice.

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  • ArkanArkan Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Adult gohan, not kid gohan.

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    Big, honkin' pile of WoW characters
    I think it's hard for someone not to rage at mario kart, while shouting "Fuck you Donkey Kong. Whose dick did you suck to get all those red shells?"
  • MongerMonger I got the ham stink. Dallas, TXRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Crossposting from the Unskippable thread to possibly whip up some conversation.
    Monger wrote: »
    It's good to see Luigi in the lead role in something which doesn't involve educational games or admiring furniture like it's the Antiques Roadshow.
    Monger wrote: »
    The writing is pretty excellent in places, too. I just rewatched a couple episodes, and I'm still noticing extra little jokes and references scattered around, and occasionally new layers of jokes I already got.
    Dedede: [To the elf stripper] You're on stage soon. Go get Epona.

    Did you notice that when she walks away, she's humming Epona's song? Also, It's a shame that Falco (my favourite Smash bros characters) is basically a thug, hopefully we'll see more of him.
    I did not notice that. See? Its depth is boundless.

    Star Fox is probably going to get under-delivered on, just like Sonic and Metal Gear. It definitely shows when the writers are deeply familiar with a series, and the lack of inclusion so far of any Star Fox characters outside of the ones in Brawl is not a good sign. Slippy, like Snake, is a comedic goldmine, and for them not to capitalize on that at the first opportune moment is pretty telling, I think.
    They did make a point of having someone call Fox "furry," though. That was pretty fantastic.

    It was also completely negating by Snake not yelling out "ugh... that was... horrible" after biting a guy's leg. Or wondering aloud what it was going to taste like beforehand. Or, like, being involved in a crotchgrab in any manner.
    Khavall wrote: »
    Ganondorf, one of the other strong actors, is a VA for a bunch of games, including Brutal Legend, Fei-Long for Street Fighter IV, and World of Warcraft(I know, indie game, but you may have heard of it)
    Oh shit! I knew that guy was too good to just be some random shmuck. And like I said in the other thread, I'm positive I know Lakitu's actor from somewhere.

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  • VeganVegan Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Khavall wrote: »
    So there's a show

    It's called "There will be Brawl"

    It's amazing.

    No it's more amazing then you're thinking after I said that.

    It's on the Escapist and has it's own site with news and episodes.

    Basically, it's an HBO drama, but with the characters from Super Smash Bros: Brawl.

    It includes such awesome things like: Kirby is a cannibal. Samus is a stripper, pretty much all the elves from Zelda are strippers. Link is a corrupt police chief. Seriously this shit is incredible. Also every girl in the series that appears is hot. Really hot.

    But that's not the point.

    The point is that the concept is pretty damn genius, and considering the budget, the writing and acting are fantastic. So, since we don't have a thread for it already, we now have a thread for it. Anyone notice any fun things? How great is this? When a new episode comes, let's talk about it. How hot is Samus? Did you know that the actress playing Zelda is in fact not an actress but a costume designer? How about that Luigi, one of the best actors on the show, is mostly a comedian, despite totally being able to pull off dark humor/drama? Ganondorf, one of the other strong actors, is a VA for a bunch of games, including Brutal Legend, Fei-Long for Street Fighter IV, and World of Warcraft(I know, indie game, but you may have heard of it)

    Let's have this thread for TWBB, and leave the Unskippable thread to the whole thing I guess it's about maybe or something.

    Oh right. When does it update? The final Friday every month.

    Wow, why don't they put it on G4 or Spike? Everything you said makes it sound like it's for 13 year old boys.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Katherine Steel is good looking, but there were points in the first video where I honestly wondered if it was a guy. Must have been the lighting, or the horrible wig.

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  • ArkanArkan Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Why don't you watch it and see if it's decent before judging it based on someone's off-the-cuff description?

    (No, I haven't seen it either, but it looks decent and not-shitty.)

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    I think it's hard for someone not to rage at mario kart, while shouting "Fuck you Donkey Kong. Whose dick did you suck to get all those red shells?"
  • MongerMonger I got the ham stink. Dallas, TXRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Vegan wrote: »
    Wow, why don't they put it on G4 or Spike? Everything you said makes it sound like it's for 13 year old boys.
    This is the classiest shameless show I've ever seen.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Monger wrote: »
    Vegan wrote: »
    Wow, why don't they put it on G4 or Spike? Everything you said makes it sound like it's for 13 year old boys.
    This is the classiest shameless show I've ever seen.

    So it's for 14 year old boys.

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  • MongerMonger I got the ham stink. Dallas, TXRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Monger wrote: »
    Vegan wrote: »
    Wow, why don't they put it on G4 or Spike? Everything you said makes it sound like it's for 13 year old boys.
    This is the classiest shameless show I've ever seen.

    So it's for 14 year old boys.
    And lonely (bi-curious) housewives.
    Seriously, though, it's good stuff.

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  • TaranisTaranis Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Monger wrote: »
    Vegan wrote: »
    Wow, why don't they put it on G4 or Spike? Everything you said makes it sound like it's for 13 year old boys.
    This is the classiest shameless show I've ever seen.

    So it's for 14 year old boys.

    Of course, everything with attractive chicks and sex is for 14 year old boys.

    Oh and it's about video game characters, so it should have been obvious, only 14 year old boys like video games and hot chicks.

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I was not aware that well acted and well written HBO dramas were intended for 13 year old boys but that's fine maybe I don't understand demographics.



    Seriously people, maybe it's just 'cause I'm a musician and never really had to mature past the age of 12(heh, heh.... measure 69 is always funny), but I actually still appreciate hot girls. I still like sex too.

    I mean come on did you people stop watching porn at age 14 or something? Hot girls aren't exclusive to 13 year olds.

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  • RubberACRubberAC Sidney BC!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    This show is not well acted what are you talking about

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I think that sex appeal is the only motivator for watching the show that makes it desirable to horny young teens

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    It is by any standards of "Low-budget internet show"

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I think that sex appeal is the only motivator for watching the show that makes it desirable to horny young teens

    I specifically said after talking about the hot girls that that wasn't the point of the show

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Comparing pretty shitty shit to really shitty shit to justify that it's pretty shitty shit

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  • BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I can't read the title without thinking of the Major's speech from Hellsing except with the Brawl characters and appropriate text:
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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Comparing pretty shitty shit to really shitty shit to justify that it's pretty shitty shit

    So we should judge film writing by novel standards? Opera acting by straight theater acting?

    Specific fields have specific strengths. Of course the actors aren't Patrick Stewart, but they by the standards of the media are good.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Seriously people, maybe it's just 'cause I'm a musician and never really had to mature past the age of 12(heh, heh.... measure 69 is always funny), but I actually still appreciate hot girls. I still like sex too.

    I mean come on did you people stop watching porn at age 14 or something? Hot girls aren't exclusive to 13 year olds.

    it's this quote here that leads me to believe that one of your defenses is based purely on sex appeal, and the other
    It is by any standards of "Low-budget internet show"

    is based on "well it's pretty good for being awful"

    you don't need to justify your enjoyment of the show, but I'm not seeing quality here

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  • Fig-DFig-D SoCalRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I'm enjoying this.

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  • Feels Good ManFeels Good Man Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Khavall wrote: »
    Comparing pretty shitty shit to really shitty shit to justify that it's pretty shitty shit

    So we should judge film writing by novel standards? Opera acting by straight theater acting?

    Specific fields have specific strengths. Of course the actors aren't Patrick Stewart, but they by the standards of the media are good.

    try "high school english class standards"


    ok, maybe that's a lil harsh.

    freshman comp at uni.


    cause even then it hardly measures up

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  • Fatal3RR0RFatal3RR0R Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I pretty much accidentally stumbled onto TWBB, and man am I glad I did.

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  • -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    So it's like Drawn together, but with the cast of Brawl?

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Khavall wrote: »
    Comparing pretty shitty shit to really shitty shit to justify that it's pretty shitty shit

    So we should judge film writing by novel standards? Opera acting by straight theater acting?

    Specific fields have specific strengths. Of course the actors aren't Patrick Stewart, but they by the standards of the media are good.

    Man what are you on about here

    I didn't compare two different forms of artistic expression

    this is a show with acting

    the acting isn't very good

    not good when compared to, you know, good acting

    it is a show, and is therefore subject to criticism as are all shows

    this isn't apples and oranges, this is apples and apples

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  • ArkanArkan Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Is it entertaining? Yes? No? Who gives a shit about the other stuff, seriously?

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    I think it's hard for someone not to rage at mario kart, while shouting "Fuck you Donkey Kong. Whose dick did you suck to get all those red shells?"
  • MongerMonger I got the ham stink. Dallas, TXRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    RubberAC wrote: »
    This show is not well acted what are you talking about
    In the context of being a comedy series starring iconic video game characters that happens to take the form of a parody of a dark, gritty, sex-centric HBO drama? Yes, it is very well acted. The acting isn't quite as consistent as it could be, I'll give you that.

    edit:
    And yes, it is incredibly fucking entertaining despite any quality concerns.
    Fatal3RR0R wrote: »
    I pretty much accidentally stumbled onto TWBB, and man am I glad I did.
    Me, too. My introduction to the series is actually documented in the Unskippable thread a couple of weeks ago. Nobody payed any attention at the time. I bet they wouldn't be so smug if they knew they could have had all this awesome back then. I bet they wouldn't be so smug at all.

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Seriously people, maybe it's just 'cause I'm a musician and never really had to mature past the age of 12(heh, heh.... measure 69 is always funny), but I actually still appreciate hot girls. I still like sex too.

    I mean come on did you people stop watching porn at age 14 or something? Hot girls aren't exclusive to 13 year olds.

    it's this quote here that leads me to believe that one of your defenses is based purely on sex appeal, and the other
    It is by any standards of "Low-budget internet show"

    is based on "well it's pretty good for being awful"

    you don't need to justify your enjoyment of the show, but I'm not seeing quality here

    I know I don't need to justify my enjoyment, but the idea that you're not seeing quality is because you've got goalposts about a billion yards away instead of 100.

    All I'm saying is that by any standard that is applicable to the art, it's well written and well acted. You want to apply universal standard? Fine, but then of course it's bad. No multimedia ever will ever come close to pure arts in artistry. But multimedia isn't pure, it's an amalgam. If multimedia was just the best ever of all media, Video Games would be the best art ever, combining all forms of media. But it's not. And with the "new media" of the internet, and the addition to the vernacular of film multimedia of the web shorts, it's amazingly well done.

    Also, none of my defense is based on sex appeal, but saying "LOL YOU MENTIONED HOT GIRLS UR A 13 YEAR OLD BOY THAT'S ALL THAT SEX APPEALS TO" is the most retarded fucking shit ever. I mean seriously. Mature adults still like sex. Dismissing things out of hand for having attractive girls is dumb shit that is the instant insult of the 16 year old boys who think they're better than the 13 year old boys because they are totally too smart to like sex.

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  • Fatal3RR0RFatal3RR0R Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Arkan wrote: »
    Is it entertaining? Yes? No? Who gives a shit about the other stuff, seriously?

    This.

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Khavall wrote: »
    Comparing pretty shitty shit to really shitty shit to justify that it's pretty shitty shit

    So we should judge film writing by novel standards? Opera acting by straight theater acting?

    Specific fields have specific strengths. Of course the actors aren't Patrick Stewart, but they by the standards of the media are good.

    try "high school english class standards"


    ok, maybe that's a lil harsh.

    freshman comp at uni.


    cause even then it hardly measures up

    You've obviously never seen the aggregate of a high school english class or freshman comp and uni

    Seriously, people. It's enjoyable, it's well done for the field, it's a good web series... Stop putting it down to feel superior. We get it, I guess you're smart or something(though not smart enough to actually think about art critically). Enjoy you're brilliance and enjoy the fucking show, you morons.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I know I don't need to justify my enjoyment, but the idea that you're not seeing quality is because you've got goalposts about a billion yards away instead of 100.

    why should I lower my expectations?

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  • RubberACRubberAC Sidney BC!Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Oh my god how hard is it to choreograph an adequate action scene
    that was so bad oh my god

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I know I don't need to justify my enjoyment, but the idea that you're not seeing quality is because you've got goalposts about a billion yards away instead of 100.

    why should I lower my expectations?

    Because your expectations are devoid of practicality.

    You know what? All film music, all video game music, all musical theater music, any music composed with any intent other than pure music experimentation and advancement, sucks in comparison.

    99.99% of people in the world could not listen to the best music. 99.99% of the people who can at least listen to it without just hearing meaningless noise and shutting it off don't understand how or why it's great.

    But John Williams remains a great film composer.

    Recognition of specific media isn't lowering expectations.

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  • Fig-DFig-D SoCalRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    RubberAC wrote: »
    Oh my god how hard is it to choreograph an adequate action scene
    that was so bad oh my god

    Really hard, actually.

    Having said that, I haven't come to any sort of action scene yet so I can't really comment on how it compares to my own efforts.

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  • MongerMonger I got the ham stink. Dallas, TXRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Khavall wrote: »
    But John Williams remains a great film composer.
    QED, Khavall.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Khavall wrote: »
    I know I don't need to justify my enjoyment, but the idea that you're not seeing quality is because you've got goalposts about a billion yards away instead of 100.

    why should I lower my expectations?

    Because your expectations are devoid of practicality.

    You know what? All film music, all video game music, all musical theater music, any music composed with any intent other than pure music experimentation and advancement, sucks in comparison.

    99.99% of people in the world could not listen to the best music. 99.99% of the people who can at least listen to it without just hearing meaningless noise and shutting it off don't understand how or why it's great.

    But John Williams remains a great film composer.

    Recognition of specific media isn't lowering expectations.

    Why are my expectations devoid of practicality? Because I don't enjoy an internet show that has an incredibly low budget? You are trying to convince me that this thing is good, as long as I lower my expectations enough. But you know what? Dirt probably tastes pretty good if you lower your expectations enough. That doesn't motivate me to eat dirt.

    I don't like what you like, so you call me immature, tell me I have a superiority complex, and then go on to call me a fucking idiot. I was going to let this go, but now I'm not so sure.

    EDIT: And for some reason, this comes to mind: http://www.wired.com/underwire/2009/06/alttext_critics/

    It's not even your fucking show. You don't need to defend it against us evil men who would wish harm upon it.

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  • Foolish ChaosFoolish Chaos Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Zombimambo would just probably rather do something else with his time. It is rather mediocre (from what I've seen of it), and there are better things to watch.

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