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Condoms, and a lack thereof during sex [RESOLVED]
GreasyKidsStuff
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So I have a question and some concerns that I hope can be kind of eased with the help of someone a little more experienced in this department then I am. I've been with the same girl for the past 8 months, been having loooots of sex for the last 6, and she has been incredibly good at remembering her pill every single night. She sets an alarm on her clock and everything and makes sure to do everything right and basically she's doing her job. Up until recently every single time we've done it I have always used a condom, just to be absolutely certain that nothing is going to happen.
Now the problem I've had occasionally is that, to put it simply, the condom flippin' ruins any kind of sensation I have and basically I get nowhere and she's off having the sex of her life while I am not getting anywhere close to finishing. This is every so often. Not common enough to say it's a serious problem, not scarce enough to not be pissed off about it. So recently I've just gotten frustrated and taken off the condom and had at 'er without. And it feels awesome, and all that. So these few times I do it without the condom, I have always always always made sure never to actually cum inside her, I always pull out. I know, I know, that's the woooorst method of birth control on the planet, but that's where somebody who can help comes in.
How concerned should I be about having sex without a condom on occasion when my girlfriend does an incredibly good job remembering her pill and I never actually plant my seed in her? We both think that if we're just careful, we'll be fine, but those are also pretty famous last words before the baby comes along so... help
Now the problem I've had occasionally is that, to put it simply, the condom flippin' ruins any kind of sensation I have and basically I get nowhere and she's off having the sex of her life while I am not getting anywhere close to finishing. This is every so often. Not common enough to say it's a serious problem, not scarce enough to not be pissed off about it. So recently I've just gotten frustrated and taken off the condom and had at 'er without. And it feels awesome, and all that. So these few times I do it without the condom, I have always always always made sure never to actually cum inside her, I always pull out. I know, I know, that's the woooorst method of birth control on the planet, but that's where somebody who can help comes in.
How concerned should I be about having sex without a condom on occasion when my girlfriend does an incredibly good job remembering her pill and I never actually plant my seed in her? We both think that if we're just careful, we'll be fine, but those are also pretty famous last words before the baby comes along so... help
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I would say that if she's on the pill and is regular about it, your odds of pregnancy are basically the same with or without a condom (which is to say virtually nill, .01%, by freak accident only).
Continued condom use would be advisable in order to protect from any STDS you two lovebirds might share with each other, but seeing as you've already had unprotected sex, as long you're a monogamous couple I don't see much difference in your using a condom or not.
Also, there's the morning after pill just in case.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/birth-control/withdrawal-pull-out-method-4218.htm
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Pulling out is useless. Forget pulling out.
That said, I understand that two forms of contraception is common, but honestly the pill is enough. We're not talking the condom ripping or anything; it affects her hormones, and I really don't think you need to sweat it. Granted, it's not the ABSOLUTE SAFEST ADVICE, but my girlfriend and I have relied on the NuvaRing for a long time and I can name two hands worth of girls who have done the same, and none of us have ever had a pregnancy scare.
Don't sweat it.
While pulling out isn't the best form of contraceptive, it is actually far from worthless. I'm not suggesting you rely on it, but doing it will reduce the chances of pregnancy. Assuming you do it right, of course. So if you want the extra security, on top of her using the pill, why not?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coitus_interruptus
Pulling out is 96% with perfect use, but drops to about 80% with typical use. (oh baby it feels so good. oh god wait hold on, oh noooooo)
Basically to figure out your chance for getting her preggo you multiply the two, which we can round down to 0.000X% of getting her pregnant. If you want to chance her being the 1 in 300 live in the danger zone and shoot it inside her. If not make the case that it's safest for the both of you to red dragon on her face.
Statistically, pulling out is as almost as effective as using a condom as far as birth control goes, provided you clean it off and pee before and after to sterilize your urethra of any sperm that might be hanging out from a previous round, and provided you don't fuck up, which takes about "just one more thrust" or getting lost in the moment.
Personally, condoms are cheap and they're peace of mind. There's a rule with working with guns: If you didn't unload it and set the safety yourself, it's loaded and the safety is off. Condom's are the option you have complete control over and the one you can make sure is done right every time.
Pulling out IS NOT A FORM OF CONTRACEPTION. EVER.
The real issue is STDs. The pill's effectiveness is pretty well documented, so if you're comfortable with that amount of risk and you've both been tested for everything there's really no need to bother with condoms.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
The pull out method is stupid and requires you to execute it perfectly, not cum in her at all, and requires you to act rationally during an act pumping you with hormones that make you act irrational.
like I said I am quite sure the pullout method has a statistical impact. That doesn't make it a useful part of a discussion about effective birth control.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
In addition to birth control I've been using it for the better part of 5 months, frequently, (:winky:) without messing that method up.
I mean. How do you mess it up?
Step1) Things are about to take place
Step2) Make sure they take place outside
Step 2.1) Weep softly at the injustice of humanity and the harsh realities of nature.
step 3) she's on the pill in addition to your half assed pull out attempt and because of this does not become pregnant and you both go on with your day as though nothing of any significance has happened because nothing of significance has happened.
The problem and you won't know it, is some women can get a little crazy and if they think your leaving them they have been known to stop taking the pill to get pregnant and keep you around forever. I have a slightly older half brother from that.
why are you bothering with the pull out method
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
On the other hand, my best friend took her pill religiously at the same time every day for 4 years. She didn't use a condom last September, ended up pregnant and had to make a very hard decision about getting an abortion on her own because the guy turned out to be a total dick.
I think you just need to be comfortable with the idea that even though it is 99.99% effective, it still isn't perfect.
Try and see if these help. I actually don't use the Ribbed version, though.
Maybe he really likes to wash things.
the worst is when it gets in your body hair. It doesn't like to wash out easily.
I have some friends who practice the pullout method...no pregnancies whatsoever for several years
I also have some friends who religiously practice birthcontrol (the pill) .... have sex once and get pregnant (as far as she told me, she was doing everything right).
Haha, I guess life is cruel that way.
But yeah, pull-out+pill isn't very reasonable. Wiki tells me coitus interuptus is 27% effective, whereas the pill is about 8% effective (both typical use). So 0.08*0.27~0.02 So, even though you've cut it by about 3/4ths, you haven't really changed the order of magnitude.
(So, to the gents saying pullout 'doesn't work: Shut up, it does. It might not be as effective as you like, but 27% failure is far from the 100% you're suggesting)
If you want to be 'extra careful', you might want to investigate some other behavioral methods such as the Creighton Model. It is more effective than the pill, and all it requires is some careful monitoring (and not having sex during several days of the month).
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Wiki lists it as such, several studies list it as such, if you want to convince me it isn't....conduct your own study and show me it isn't. Until then, please refrain from comments that make you sound stupid.
Wikipedia states 8% as a failure rate for the birth control pill, not a success rate.
And it's a lot easier to achieve 'perfect use' with the pill than with the pull-out method.
It may be more effective when performed correctly. You're forgetting that the rhythm method is many times more difficult to adequately undergo than is the pill. Aside, Wikipedia and "several studies" are not exactly incredibly reputable sources.
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Well, a typical use rate of 3% versus a typical use rate of 8% for the pill.
Also, I am not saying that the sources are reputable. However, do do show me more evidence and rigor than someone's
Fair enough, never seen that chart. It's funny though, Wiki lists it as a source, but the figures the quote are wildly different. o_O
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I think he mean ineffective.
The Moral of the story is if you trust your women and you actually try to pull out the chances are a lot lower. Specailly if you remember to piss in between acts.
Personally though I would only leave it in my hands while I am of full mind and always wear a raincoat.
Yes, you did. I guess I have been snapped up by wiki's technical bias....in my field, it is damn accurate and as such, I tend to trust wiki for, apparently, too much. :P
It's convenient, cheap, has no side effects and requires no planning or setting up. It's a good alternative to doing nothing, and recent tests suggest it rivals condom use in pregnancy prevention, even in non-perfect use (17 and 18%). This means that, assuming no one has an STD, there's a very small difference between using Pill+Condom and Pill+Pullout. Pill+Condoms will cost you 50-80$ a month depending on the amount of sex you plan to have. Pullout is free and almost as effective.
Yeah.
So,
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