Gentlemen and ladies, your opinion please

Brucolac

Simply,

After ridding myself of my MTGO accounts I simply ask the forums' opinion. Which console offers better RPGs? It seems to me from reviews the answer is PS3. I simply want to know which console you think is best for me to throw my newfound $$ into. Thank you in advance for your time.

Henroid

Well the PS3 does have Valkyria Chronicles...

The Dude With Herpes

You need to be a bit more descriptive as to what you mean by "RPG's". JRPGs? WRPGs? Card games? MTGO isn't really an RPG so that's not a very good starting point.

In summary, you need to help us if you want us to help you.

Reznik

RPG is actually a pretty broad genre. What kind of RPGs do you like? Western? Japanese? Real time or turn based? Action RPGs or 'traditional'? Linear or open-ended?

edit: beat'd to questions

Darlan

Good, new console JRPGs are few and far between, but the 360 has Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age coming up, and since FFXIII is no longer exclusive...

It'd be a shame to miss out on Atlus/Nippon Ichii stuff, though. And Dragon Age looks kinda crappy, really. I guess my answer is you'll probably be disappointed either way, but do check out Fallout 3.

miscellaneousinsanity

Playstation 2.
Or, a backwards compatible PS3.

Dehumanized

Nintendo DS is the king of RPGs nowadays. If you refuse to play on a handheld, then the finest console option is the PS2. Beyond that, maybe the PS3.

TychoCelchuuu

You could dump the console money into your PC and play Dragon Age, Oblivion, The Witcher, Fallout 3, Neverwinter Nights 2, Mass Effect 2, and all the classics (Fallout, Baldur's Gate, Planescape, KOTOR, etc) at a higher resolution and with mods and stuff.

Antihippy

Darlan wrote: »

Good, new console JRPGs are few and far between, but the 360 has Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age coming up, and since FFXIII is no longer exclusive...

It'd be a shame to miss out on Atlus/Nippon Ichii stuff, though. Damn exclusives.

Dragon age is coming to the PS3...

I would say the 360 if you like JRPGs, but quite a number of them are getting ported to the PS3 recently, so, eh.

Steel Angel

Darlan wrote: »

It'd be a shame to miss out on Atlus/Nippon Ichii stuff, though. And Dragon Age looks kinda crappy, really. I guess my answer is you'll probably be disappointed either way, but do check out Fallout 3.

We still have no idea what direction Atlus is going to go. It's a topic of discussion in the SMT thread given the recent teaser site they put up.

Brucolac

I apologize. In my sad leymanese I thought RPG was explanation enough. I enjoyed Final Fantasy in the past but devoted my last 6 years to MTGO. I suppose that I just want to know which console offers me an experience similar to FFX. If that makes sense.

Khavall

So JRPGs...


I would say probably the 360. You're missing out on Valkyria Chronicles, but you do have Last Remnant, Infinite Undiscovery, and you still have FFXIII. Since the 360 isn't doing too well in Japan against the PS3 or the monolithic Wii, they're basically sinking money into JRPGs so that maybe they'll catch on more in Japan.

Voro

Khavall wrote: »

So JRPGs...


I would say probably the 360. You're missing out on Valkyria Chronicles, but you do have Last Remnant, Infinite Undiscovery, and you still have FFXIII. Since the 360 isn't doing too well in Japan against the PS3 or the monolithic Wii, they're basically sinking money into JRPGs so that maybe they'll catch on more in Japan.

You'll also have Lost Odyssey (360), which is right up your alley since you enjoyed FFX. Additionally: Tales of Vesperia (multi-platform), Blue Dragon (360), Enchanted Arms (multi-platform), and Star Ocean: The Last Hope (360).

Dehumanized wrote: »

Nintendo DS is the king of RPGs nowadays. If you refuse to play on a handheld, then the finest console option is the PS2. Beyond that, maybe the PS3.

Eh, that's debatable. I'm finding more RPGs to play on my PSP, though that is in part due to PSX games.

Dehumanized

The PSP does indeed have a lot of RPGs, but not nearly as many newly developed ones as the DS.

Hockey Johnston

This question only highlights that there's no one system, IMO, where you can spend some cash and end up with a huge bounty of RPG goodness.

A backwards compatible PS3 is probably the best bet, but only because there are just a zillion great JRPGs from the PS2 era.

Reznik

Haven't most of the JRPGs this gen sucked? I hear consistently bad things about Infinite Undiscovery, Last Remnant, Star Ocean and Enchanted Arms.

My advice would be to either wait for better games to come out, get a backwards compatible PS3, or just buy a PS2.

Khavall

Reznik wrote: »

Haven't most of the JRPGs this gen sucked? I hear consistently bad things about Infinite Undiscovery, Last Remnant, Star Ocean and Enchanted Arms.

My advice would be to either wait for better games to come out, get a backwards compatible PS3, or just buy a PS2.

Most of the people who say bad things about the JRPGs this gen also just hate JRPGs. For reason. I've never seen a JRPG with good acting, good writing, non-grindy gameplay, or really any challenge other than "Don't walk away from the game". I still like them every once in a while, but there's a general dislike, especially on these forums, for all JRPGs, this generations JRPGs are fine, they're just as good as last generations JRPGs.

Steel Angel

Reznik wrote: »

Haven't most of the JRPGs this gen sucked? I hear consistently bad things about Infinite Undiscovery, Last Remnant, Star Ocean and Enchanted Arms.

My advice would be to either wait for better games to come out, get a backwards compatible PS3, or just buy a PS2.

Defining this gen is a bit of a tricky matter since it feels like it hasn't begun yet. It seems like few JRPG releases on the 360 or PS3 have blown people away but at the same time Atlus was still pumping out good ones for the PS2 when most companies already had moved away from it. Outside of Namco's Tales series, the more beloved JRPG properties are still works in progress for the newest generation of systems.

RainbowDespair

The best JRPGs of late have been on the PS2 (Persona 3 & 4, Devil Summoner 2), but this generation hasn't been bad for JRPGs so far. PS3 has the all-mighty Valkyria Chronicles & Disgaea 3, the Wii has the awesome retro FF4 sequel, and the 360 has Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Tales of Vesperia, and a lot of miscellaneous.

Aroduc

Voro wrote: »

Additionally: Tales of Vesperia (multi-platform),

Your optimism is highly amusing, and somewhat pitiable.

Sorcha Ravenlock

I've you've missed out on most RPGs over the lsast 6 years, get a pS2 and a DS, and you'll be set for ages. there are so many really great RPGs on both systems and most of them really hold up over time.

The only thing in RPG land the PS3 has over the Xbox 360 is Valkyria Chronicles AFAIK, and personally I don't think one game sells a system. The 360 has several JRPGs, and while some of them are debatable, like Eternal Sonata and Blue Dragon, a lot of people enjoyed these anyway (I loved Eternal Sonata but didn't like Blue dragon for example)and you can pick them up for dirt-cheap now anyway. Trying them out for yourself won't cost you an arm and a leg.
Besides that the 360 has a lot of WRPGs that are exellent as well, like Mass Effect, Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Fable 2. Again, since you are coming into your console late you should be able to pick most of these games up for a reasonable price.

The best thing to do is look at the libraby for both consoles (and their future releases) and make two lists with the games you like on each console. pick the console you have the longest list for.

Also, if you have friends who are gamers, keep in mind that if you have the same console as them you can play multiplayer games together. That might be a deciding factor as well.

Noray

Khavall wrote: »

this generations JRPGs are fine, they're just as good as last generations JRPGs.

No they really aren't. There hasn't been a single triple A JRPG yet this generation. We're seeing rehashes of games last generation that add little to nothing to the formula, like Star Ocean, or new experiments that unfortunately don't pan out, like Last Remnant.

If you want to play JRPG's, get a PS2 or backwards-compatible PS3 and hunt down some games from last gen you might not have played, like Valkyrie Profile 2 or something.

Rent

Khavall wrote: »

So JRPGs...


I would say probably the 360. You're missing out on Valkyria Chronicles, but you do have Last Remnant, Infinite Undiscovery, and you still have FFXIII. Since the 360 isn't doing too well in Japan against the PS3 or the monolithic Wii, they're basically sinking money into JRPGs so that maybe they'll catch on more in Japan.

Last Remnant and IU combined don't equal half of VC
A backwards-compatible PS3 is your best bet here, OP
Failing that, a DS

Antihippy

Sorcha Ravenlock wrote: »

I've you've missed out on most RPGs over the lsast 6 years, get a pS2 and a DS, and you'll be set for ages. there are so many really great RPGs on both systems and most of them really hold up over time.

The only thing in RPG land the PS3 has over the Xbox 360 is Valkyria Chronicles AFAIK, and personally I don't think one game sells a system. The 360 has several JRPGs, and while some of them are debatable, like Eternal Sonata and Blue Dragon, a lot of people enjoyed these anyway (I loved Eternal Sonata but didn't like Blue dragon for example)and you can pick them up for dirt-cheap now anyway. Trying them out for yourself won't cost you an arm and a leg.
Besides that the 360 has a lot of WRPGs that are exellent as well, like Mass Effect, Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Fable 2. Again, since you are coming into your console late you should be able to pick most of these games up for a reasonable price.

The best thing to do is look at the libraby for both consoles (and their future releases) and make two lists with the games you like on each console. pick the console you have the longest list for.

Also, if you have friends who are gamers, keep in mind that if you have the same console as them you can play multiplayer games together. That might be a deciding factor as well.

Fallout 3 and Oblivion are on the PS3. So is eternal sonata.

I say that your best bet is use the money for a 360 or PS3 and get a PS2 and a DS/PSP.

MisterGrok

If you are really interested in JRPGs, then I say go for a backwards compatible PS3. I own both systems and I personally prefer my Xbox for most gaming. However, you're looking at all the games released on (and still being released on) the PS2 added to your library - this is especially good if you are a massive Atlus fan. Something also tells me you'd probably dig MGS4 more than Gears of War. Aside from those, most other games I've been enjoying lately - Prototype, Ghostbusters, Overlord 2 - they're multi-platform.

Then again, Xbox has Duels of the Planeswalkers on it and you could get a half-way decent magic fix with that.

Casually Hardcore

You can start with one of the best RPG to ever been release:




Then, if you havent already, you can find a copy of the all time best ever RPG:

BlackDove

Don't buy any consoles until their new versions come out, otherwise it's wasted money. PS3 when it becomes the slim, and 360 when it becomes Valhalla with Natal bundled.

Build a new PC instead.

Evangir

A BC PS3 is a great option. You get all the PS2 era JRPGs, along with Valkyria Chronicles. I haven't had an issue with my software-BC 80 gig yet, although apparently you might have an issue if you try to play the Shadow Hearts series (Haven't dug it out of my backlog just yet, but I've read there are some glitches/crashes). The 360 does have some great JRPGs though, like Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, and Tales of Vesperia. It also has Mass Effect, which everyone needs to play.

xa52

BlackDove wrote: »

Don't buy any consoles until their new versions come out, otherwise it's wasted money. PS3 when it becomes the slim, and 360 when it becomes Valhalla with Natal bundled.

Build a new PC instead.

I basically agree, but would say get a new PC or a DS. Building a good PC is cheaper than ever, but still more than any console, so a DS is at the other end of the cost spectrum and actually leaves him with money to buy one of those new console versions when they are released. Both offer a wide array of RPGs new and old, although the DS is strangely (and disappointingly) lacking a traditional western RPG.

Brucolac

Thanks to everyone for the great responses. I'm not sure my enormous, mitten-like appendages and poor eyesight could deal with a DS. Perhaps they could, but I'll have to try one at the store first. Also, as someone who enjoys completing EVERYTHING in a game, does 100 hours of play on a DS get old?

I also very much understand waiting to get a new console, but I don't think I can survive gameless until the fall. The idea of a BC PS3 is pleasing since most of my favorite games of yore were on it's predecessor.

Thank you all for your input. I am very interested in title suggestions as well for the DS and the PS3/2. I doubt I will get more than 10 games to start, but it would be nice to know which great games I missed I should pick up.

Again, thanks everyone for the suggestions. I am very pleased that I picked the right boards to post this on .

Reznik

I noticed nobody mentioned Folklore for PS3, so I will mention Folklore for PS3. You rip the souls out of your defeated enemies and use them to fight like Pokemon. Also there is a pretty rad mystery storyline going on with it and the art direction is beautiful.

It can get repetitive though 'cause you have to play every zone twice, once with each character.

I mean... it's not quite an RPG, but neither is Valkyria Chronicles. They're both good, though.

TychoCelchuuu

Brucolac wrote: »

Thanks to everyone for the great responses. I'm not sure my enormous, mitten-like appendages and poor eyesight could deal with a DS. Perhaps they could, but I'll have to try one at the store first. Also, as someone who enjoys completing EVERYTHING in a game, does 100 hours of play on a DS get old?

I also very much understand waiting to get a new console, but I don't think I can survive gameless until the fall. The idea of a BC PS3 is pleasing since most of my favorite games of yore were on it's predecessor.

Thank you all for your input. I am very interested in title suggestions as well for the DS and the PS3/2. I doubt I will get more than 10 games to start, but it would be nice to know which great games I missed I should pick up.

Again, thanks everyone for the suggestions. I am very pleased that I picked the right boards to post this on .

If you want to wait for a new console AND not have to survive gameless until the fall, your existing computer can run Fallout, Fallout 2, Baldur's Gate, Baldur's Gate 2, Planescape: Torment, Deus Ex, probably Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, and perhaps even more games. GoG.com even has the Fallouts ready.

RainbowDespair

Reznik wrote: »

I noticed nobody mentioned Folklore for PS3, so I will mention Folklore for PS3. You rip the souls out of your defeated enemies and use them to fight like Pokemon. Also there is a pretty rad mystery storyline going on with it and the art direction is beautiful.

It can get repetitive though 'cause you have to play every zone twice, once with each character.

I mean... it's not quite an RPG, but neither is Valkyria Chronicles. They're both good, though.

Also Demon's Souls is coming out on the PS3 later this year and looks amazing if you like dark Action/RPGs with a high level of difficulty.

BlackDove

Brucolac wrote: »

The idea of a BC PS3 is pleasing

Enjoy your obsolete PS3 when they start shipping the slim with the 160gb hard drive for $50 less.

edit: not that I'm trying to be a dick, but you wanted opinions

Darlan

BlackDove wrote: »

Brucolac wrote: »

The idea of a BC PS3 is pleasing

Enjoy your obsolete PS3 when they start shipping the slim with the 160gb hard drive for $50 less.

edit: not that I'm trying to be a dick, but you wanted opinions

Eh, I'm finding that 80 GB is way more than I need as it is, and it's a safe bet they won't be going the PSPGo (digital only) route until at least the PS4. I don't see why size really matters in something that just sits by your tv either. It's not portable, you're not going to be stuffing it in your pocket, what does it matter as long as it fits fine in your entertainment center?

A price drop is something to think about, though.

Reznik

BlackDove wrote: »

Brucolac wrote: »

The idea of a BC PS3 is pleasing

Enjoy your obsolete PS3 when they start shipping the slim with the 160gb hard drive for $50 less.

edit: not that I'm trying to be a dick, but you wanted opinions

The hard drive means dick all, though. He could grab a 60 and then throw in a 500 gb hard drive if he wanted to.

Moioink

BlackDove wrote: »

Brucolac wrote: »

The idea of a BC PS3 is pleasing

Enjoy your obsolete PS3 when they start shipping the slim with the 160gb hard drive for $50 less.

That's rather obnoxious and wrong. The PS3 slim will be lot cheaper than just $50 less than a 60GB PS3 but it won't have hardware BC so how will the older model be obsolete?

Moioink

Reznik wrote: »

The hard drive means dick all, though. He could grab a 60 and then throw in a 500 gb hard drive if he wanted to.

Yep, I got a 500GB for my PS3 for £65. It's really inexpensive to upgrade when you need/want to and HDD prices depreciate nicely.

Darlan

Darlan wrote: »

Eh, I'm finding that 80 GB is way more than I need as it is, and it's a safe bet they won't be going the PSPGo (digital only) route until at least the PS4. I don't see why size really matters in something that just sits by your tv either. It's not portable, you're not going to be stuffing it in your pocket, what does it matter as long as it fits fine in your entertainment center?

A price drop is something to think about, though.

Thinking a bit more on it, I should say that might just be defending my own decision here a bit: I decided I wanted a blu-ray player this summer, and after looking at the upcoming games that looked best to me: Last Guardian, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, God of War 3, and Brutal Legend, I decided to get the Blu Ray player that I could play MGS4 and Uncharted for the time being.

In all honesty, there's not much else out right now that's exclusive and looks great to me; I'll be the first to admit that the 360's library has been running circles around the PS3, but Sony has my upcoming "great looking exclusive games" list all to their own. (With respect to Wii Zelda, but I thought the last two were pretty meh so I'm skeptical.)

I was ready to get a Blu-ray player now so I bit the bullet. Here's hoping it was the right decision, but I certainly don't see what will probably be a small price drop and a smaller box making me really regret my decision. I've typed more than I meant to here, but maybe seeing someone else's thoughts on their console selection will help.

Elimination

Do you have a PS2? Well if you do, you're already set for JRPG's, that system is still having some of the best JRPG's released on it SMT for instance.

Brucolac

Alas, my PS2 has gone the way of all flesh. Again, thanks everyone for the suggestions. It appears that the hardware set up of the current gen consoles will be a bit involved.

Does anyone have any opinion on the pros/cons of gaming on the DS?