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Good Civilization style games?
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Yeah, I would compare it more to SimCity / CityLife than Civ.
As far as that goes,Correct me if I'm Wrong, I think that Gal Civ 2 has some Expansion Packs which more or less are Online Download only?
Not quite, Civilization allows you to win games through Diplomacy, Extermination, or reaching Alpha Centauri.
Battle of Wesnoth is more so you can only win by killing all whom oppose you.
Think of the planets like Civ4 cities - they give you your income, and they take up spending as well. You can increase the maximum size of the planet population with farms, but you also have to keep your citizens happy, which becomes exponentially more difficult the higher the population is. (And entertainment centres take up an extra square) So you build your economy based planets, with economy buildings and population, your manufacturing motherfuckers which pump ships out of their starbase every two turns, and you build your research planets. That's pretty much the home game.
In between the home and front games is trade, and starbases. You have "borders", but they're not so much borders as areas of influence, but it's essentially the same concept as in Civ4 - you can basically win planets over through culture wars. That being said, you get three kinds of starbases to build (in your influence I believe, but I could be mistaken) - military (gives attack bonuses to ships in range), economy (that you build along your trade routes and adjacent to planets to boost income) and influence (that simply boost your influence). You also play the diplomacy game, and through that, the trade game (and war!) Trade routes, again, much like Civ4, except the routes themselves are in very straight lines...
War involves you building fleets and sending them out to motherfuck other fleets. Then you get to see a pretty battle play out on screen, until finally, you send transport ships in to dump your army on their planets. There's three kinds of weaponry you can use, and a kind of armor to counter each kind of weapon. Maneuverability comes into play on the tactical side of things, but really it tends to come down to having a better ship design, and the economy to reliably pump out your ships of choice. You can design your own ships, and you will have fun doing it.
I like GalCiv2. I think it is fun to play. Play GalCiv2! Yaaaaaaay.
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I bought Alpha Centauri for a fiver yonks ago but I still can't figure out how to play it, even though I'm pretty familiar with Civ 4.
Still sounds right up my ally!
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EDIT: Also, Anno 1404 looks to be in a similar vain and was mentioned earlier. How is that?
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Agreed. There are a lot of kickass mods for it too. Like making every turn only last a half year instead of two and alot of balancing mods. The combat can get a bit repetitious if you're being sieged alot but still fun thinning out a superior army with your wall cannons and archers and than routing them when they dare step past your walls.
And the game is insanely awesome. Best city building game in a long, long time.
FreeCiv is fantastic for what it is (I've got it installed on my work computer, I played the hell out of it yesterday while the forums were down) but lets face it, its not Civ4. Civ4 + xps really open up the world, allowing you control over a lot of finky details if you want.
I've never heard of these games, but I'm downloading the demo now!
In other news, I bought GalCiv2 but holy shit I am so lost as to what's going on.
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Also, note that Stardock is working on Elemental:War of Magic, which looks to be the next generation in MOM clones. It was supposed to be in beta by now, I don't know what's up with that. But what I've seen is awesome, and Stardock always makes great stuff. WANT!
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Although I feel obligated to say that it includes TAGES DRM which only allows three installs, even on Steam. I do not want to turn this into a DRM discussion so let's leave it there.
Shit, I liked the demo so much I already bought it. Is it 3 period forever, or just 3 activations with the ability to deactivate? I reformat at least once a year so I am going to be pissed if I just paid $50 to borrow a game.
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Man I really should of said something earlier. :oops:
15 bucks on steam for it and all the expansions. It really is quite good, espcially with others. The game was made for multiplayer.
If you want cool stories about the game you should read this. It's the story of a guy who setups a game in the largest possible game size and the ridiculousness that ensues. If you're on the fence this should push you over.
And it apparently has a sequel
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This is fantastic. I wish I was good enough at civ-style games to pull this kind of stuff off. Man.
His battle reports are pretty clever, but you can tell he's playing on a low difficulty level. The AI would have eaten some of his plans alive on higher settings. GalCiv 2 also has the advantage of never really cheating, so when you lose to it it's because you suck
He admits this fully in the first one. It's also why his strategy of having no defense whatsoever "works."
After building my latest system I finally have powerful enough hardware to play a game of Civ4 on a huge, mostly land, map and not have it bog down. I've also played the mod Fall from Heaven, again on huge land maps, and included all 18 civs. That certainly makes for an epic style game. Two civs were wiped out before I even met them, and another was trapped in a corner behind two civs I was perpetually annoyed with so I never made contact before I won.
Wait... I just double checked... GAME sell the Ultimate Editon for £15. Do I assume this is the same ultimate version as on the website with all 3 expansions? Also, GAME sell something called 'Endless Universe' seperately at £5. Is this not included with the Ultimate Edition? Are there any other expansions I need with this too?
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I actually hated civ4, but I have to say, I am really enjoying fall from heaven2. Glad I bought it during the last sale(think it was the package of games ones).
Yeah the Ultimate Edition is the same thing on their site and in store. The Endless Universe is apparently some sort of Europe only package of the expansions that DOESN'T require the main game to play. So the Ultimate Edition will have you covered.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_Civilizations_II:_Endless_Universe
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Oh yes, I saw where he mentioned it, I just think you'll have an even more epic game with the AI on, since the AI genuinely will do clever things to try and beat you as opposed to on lower levels which end up just letting you decide how you want to win.
Awesome! I was all ready to get the Endless Universe thing though, as it was in GAME's 3 for £10 section... and I could also pick up the rereleased Alpha Centauri and another game of my choice... but now I'll have to rethink.
For anyone else in the UK who wants GalCiv2, as I say it's £14.99 at GAME, or you can get it as part of their 2 for £25 multibuy... there are a few other good games to be had on that list! And that's still cheaper than buying it online!
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Demigod happened. It launched with enough problems that it pulled coders away from Elemental to overhaul its net code, delaying the beta.
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So if you like somewhat slow, huge, difficult single player games you might like this one.