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Who Inspects New Residences?

DJ-99DJ-99 Registered User regular
edited July 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
I am moving into an apartment that is new construction. Apparently, before people are legally allowed to live in there, some type of inspection has to be made to make sure it is habitable (this makes sense). I need to know who would be making this inspection, to get in contact with them.

I live in the city of Boston. I will call city hall right now, but this is urgent, so I am trying to find this out any way possible.

Thanks.

EDIT: ok I am calmed down now, but essentially this is the issue. I was told I could move into my new apartment this Saturday the 25th, even though my lease starts August 1st. Great, I book tickets to be out of town on the 1st. Today, my landlord tells me I cannot actually move in, b/c an inspection has to take place before a resident can live there, or else he will be fined. This seems to be the relevant city code.

City of Boston Code Ordinance CBC 9-1.3 requires that property owners get newly rented apartments inspected prior to or within 45 days of rental and certified by the Housing Inspection Division. This ordinance allows the City to bring rental units into compliance with the State Sanitary Code in a manner that is beneficial to property owners and tenants. Failure to comply with this requirement is punishable by fines of $300 per month.

This seems to fly in the face of my landlord, as it says the inspection can take place up to 45 days after I move in. I guess, do other people agree with my take on the situation?

Essentially, I am boned if I can't move in before this inspection, and I need to convince my landlord that it is ok for me to move in this weekend, and he won't be in any trouble with the city.

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  • DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Hmm... I'm not positive, but I believe that the inspection to make sure it's habitable should be the responsibility of the builder/owner of the building. As a homebuyer, you should get a home inspection done by a qualified inspector, but this isn't the same thing as an inspection to provide a certificate of occupancy.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2009
    The owner of the building has the responsibility of the inspection as far as I know.

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  • DJ-99DJ-99 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Apparently there are 3 types of inspections, but this guy's Irish accent is so thick I can't understand him. Electric was probably one of them, don't know about the others. I am hoping I can find out what they all are, call the appropriate people at City Hall or whatever, explain the situation, and get the issues resolved.

    Going to talk to him at 8am in the morning, hopefully get this straightened out. Apparently if I have any furniture in there when the inspectors come, he will get in big trouble (according to him). Need to find a solution to this mess.

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    In most places if it's new construction, the building needs a certificate of occupancy before you can live/work there to ensure it meets all relevant codes (sanitary, fire, electrical, etc.). It has to pass inspection from licensed professional of each type before the certificate of occupancy will be issued.

    And yes, his ass is grass if you appear to be living there when the inspectors come through.

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  • DJ-99DJ-99 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    The owner of the building has the responsibility of the inspection as far as I know.

    Sorry, I should probably clarify. I'm not concerned about whose responsibility it is, I'm concerned about legally moving my stuff in this Saturday.

    He told me I could move in on July 25. Great. Got my Uhaul set up, my move-out from my old place, etc.

    Now, he is saying I cannot move in until August 1 (when my lease officially begins) because these inspections have not yet taken place. I cannot move in until the inspections have been completed.

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    DJ-99 wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    The owner of the building has the responsibility of the inspection as far as I know.

    Sorry, I should probably clarify. I'm not concerned about whose responsibility it is, I'm concerned about legally moving my stuff in this Saturday.

    He told me I could move in on July 25. Great. Got my Uhaul set up, my move-out from my old place, etc.

    Now, he is saying I cannot move in until August 1 (when my lease officially begins) because these inspections have not yet taken place. I cannot move in until the inspections have been completed.

    You signed a lease for 1 Aug, right?

    So even if you physically can occupy the building before then you legally can't.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2009
    DJ-99 wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    The owner of the building has the responsibility of the inspection as far as I know.

    Sorry, I should probably clarify. I'm not concerned about whose responsibility it is, I'm concerned about legally moving my stuff in this Saturday.

    He told me I could move in on July 25. Great. Got my Uhaul set up, my move-out from my old place, etc.

    Now, he is saying I cannot move in until August 1 (when my lease officially begins) because these inspections have not yet taken place. I cannot move in until the inspections have been completed.

    I would think he is correct in that assertion.

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  • DJ-99DJ-99 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Usagi wrote: »
    DJ-99 wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    The owner of the building has the responsibility of the inspection as far as I know.

    Sorry, I should probably clarify. I'm not concerned about whose responsibility it is, I'm concerned about legally moving my stuff in this Saturday.

    He told me I could move in on July 25. Great. Got my Uhaul set up, my move-out from my old place, etc.

    Now, he is saying I cannot move in until August 1 (when my lease officially begins) because these inspections have not yet taken place. I cannot move in until the inspections have been completed.

    You signed a lease for 1 Aug, right?

    So even if you physically can occupy the building before then you legally can't.

    The issue is that my landlord said I can move in a week early, before the lease starts. He apparently did not schedule these inspections correctly, as they were supposed to be taken care of before the 25th, but now will not be taken care of until the 31st.

    I know I have no legal right to force my way into the apartment a week ahead of my lease.

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  • DJ-99DJ-99 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Usagi wrote: »
    In most places if it's new construction, the building needs a certificate of occupancy before you can live/work there to ensure it meets all relevant codes (sanitary, fire, electrical, etc.). It has to pass inspection from licensed professional of each type before the certificate of occupancy will be issued.

    And yes, his ass is grass if you appear to be living there when the inspectors come through.

    I imagine it is these 3: sanitary, fire, electrical. Thank you.

    I am wondering if it is worthwhile to talk to the people who would be in charge of each of these inspections, show them my current lease, which runs until July 31st, just try to explain to them I am not actually living there (there won't even be a bed in there, just boxes and stuff), and basically plead for mercy.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2009
    It sucks, and it's his mistake, but there's nothing you can really do about it, and I doubt there's any way you could be compensated (not saying you're seeking such) considering he was basically just doing you a favor by letting you move in early.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited July 2009
    DJ-99 wrote: »
    I am wondering if it is worthwhile to talk to the people who would be in charge of each of these inspections, show them my current lease, which runs until July 31st, just try to explain to them I am not actually living there (there won't even be a bed in there, just boxes and stuff), and basically plead for mercy.

    Your life isn't the only concern. There's also the concern of your property being destroyed in an accident and you trying to sue someone.

    I doubt they would allow you to sign anything to change that (like a contract saying you wont sue).

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  • TopweaselTopweasel Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    My Guess is a storage closet and a cheap motel are on the horizon for you. I don't think there is a way without finding a licensed inspector on your own who is willing to do it on short notice. You seem to be basically boned.

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    DJ-99 wrote: »
    Usagi wrote: »
    In most places if it's new construction, the building needs a certificate of occupancy before you can live/work there to ensure it meets all relevant codes (sanitary, fire, electrical, etc.). It has to pass inspection from licensed professional of each type before the certificate of occupancy will be issued.

    And yes, his ass is grass if you appear to be living there when the inspectors come through.

    I imagine it is these 3: sanitary, fire, electrical. Thank you.

    I am wondering if it is worthwhile to talk to the people who would be in charge of each of these inspections, show them my current lease, which runs until July 31st, just try to explain to them I am not actually living there (there won't even be a bed in there, just boxes and stuff), and basically plead for mercy.

    Not to freak you out or anything, but it's not atypical to do multiple rounds of building inspections.

    And if you, the tenant, starts calling these inspectors up they're probably going to ignore you. You're not the building owner and they don't have to talk to you and may actually take offense from you trying to pressure them into doing their jobs faster. Remember it's not just this building they're inspecting and their schedules may be more full than they'd like already.

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  • DJ-99DJ-99 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Usagi wrote: »
    DJ-99 wrote: »
    Usagi wrote: »
    In most places if it's new construction, the building needs a certificate of occupancy before you can live/work there to ensure it meets all relevant codes (sanitary, fire, electrical, etc.). It has to pass inspection from licensed professional of each type before the certificate of occupancy will be issued.

    And yes, his ass is grass if you appear to be living there when the inspectors come through.

    I imagine it is these 3: sanitary, fire, electrical. Thank you.

    I am wondering if it is worthwhile to talk to the people who would be in charge of each of these inspections, show them my current lease, which runs until July 31st, just try to explain to them I am not actually living there (there won't even be a bed in there, just boxes and stuff), and basically plead for mercy.

    Not to freak you out or anything, but it's not atypical to do multiple rounds of building inspections.

    And if you, the tenant, starts calling these inspectors up they're probably going to ignore you. You're not the building owner and they don't have to talk to you and may actually take offense from you trying to pressure them into doing their jobs faster. Remember it's not just this building they're inspecting and their schedules may be more full than they'd like already.

    Right. At this point I'm just trying to find an equitable solution to all this. If I can't move in on the 25th, it's certainly not the end of the world, just a gross inconvenience. Nonetheless, I would really like to try to find a legal, safe way to move in 2 days from now. Not sure how to proceed.

    I guess really I'm just pissed at my landlord for either lying to me or being ridiculously unorganized so close to my move-in (I asked him 5 days ago if I could move in the 25th and he said yeah no problem).

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  • MayGodHaveMercyMayGodHaveMercy Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    DJ-99 wrote: »
    Usagi wrote: »
    DJ-99 wrote: »
    Usagi wrote: »
    In most places if it's new construction, the building needs a certificate of occupancy before you can live/work there to ensure it meets all relevant codes (sanitary, fire, electrical, etc.). It has to pass inspection from licensed professional of each type before the certificate of occupancy will be issued.

    And yes, his ass is grass if you appear to be living there when the inspectors come through.

    I imagine it is these 3: sanitary, fire, electrical. Thank you.

    I am wondering if it is worthwhile to talk to the people who would be in charge of each of these inspections, show them my current lease, which runs until July 31st, just try to explain to them I am not actually living there (there won't even be a bed in there, just boxes and stuff), and basically plead for mercy.

    Not to freak you out or anything, but it's not atypical to do multiple rounds of building inspections.

    And if you, the tenant, starts calling these inspectors up they're probably going to ignore you. You're not the building owner and they don't have to talk to you and may actually take offense from you trying to pressure them into doing their jobs faster. Remember it's not just this building they're inspecting and their schedules may be more full than they'd like already.

    Right. At this point I'm just trying to find an equitable solution to all this. If I can't move in on the 25th, it's certainly not the end of the world, just a gross inconvenience. Nonetheless, I would really like to try to find a legal, safe way to move in 2 days from now. Not sure how to proceed.

    I guess really I'm just pissed at my landlord for either lying to me or being ridiculously unorganized so close to my move-in (I asked him 5 days ago if I could move in the 25th and he said yeah no problem).

    Building Inspections consist of the following categories:

    Fire
    Plumbing
    Electrical
    Structural
    Mechanical
    Low Voltage (Depends on Authority Having Jurisdiction)

    Once all of these get their Final Inspection signed off, the Contractor/Builder gets a Building Final. You do not get your C of O's until the Building Final is signed off by the AHJ. If the owner doesn't have C of O's before the 25th, you can not legally occupy this building. There's unfortunately no way around it for you.

    I can tell you what probably happened. The General Contractor for the building expected all of his trades to have their finals signed off by a certain date, and relayed that date to the Developer/Owner. Finals did not get signed off in time for whatever reason (a myriad of possibilities), meaning no Building Final, which means no C of O's. The Developer was apparently hasty in telling future tenants when these building would be ready for occupation, or just doesn't understand the process. Both of these happen all the time.

    EDIT: C of O = Certificate of Occupation

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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Guys, how could you all forget the most important inspector?

    He clearly needs to make sure a Ghost Inspector is hired.
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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Are you new to our fair city or something because moving in early is a total crap shoot no matter what you're told and is never anything to be relied on. Honestly, he could have just decided he didn't feel like having you there early and there's nothing you can do about it. There is no way to proceed other than to in the future get everything in writing.

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  • DJ-99DJ-99 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Are you new to our fair city or something because moving in early is a total crap shoot no matter what you're told and is never anything to be relied on. Honestly, he could have just decided he didn't feel like having you there early and there's nothing you can do about it. There is no way to proceed other than to in the future get everything in writing.

    I mean, I've been here a year, but the real issue is that I am going to a huge important family function on August 1. So, either way, I was going to have to try to move in early and just hope it worked out. Now I just have to hope and pray I can do it July 31 before my flight.

    I'm sure the guy was just trying to be nice, but he was so 100% sure that I could move in then, I didn't think there would be any problems. Oh well. Live and learn I guess.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    DJ-99 wrote: »
    Are you new to our fair city or something because moving in early is a total crap shoot no matter what you're told and is never anything to be relied on. Honestly, he could have just decided he didn't feel like having you there early and there's nothing you can do about it. There is no way to proceed other than to in the future get everything in writing.

    I mean, I've been here a year, but the real issue is that I am going to a huge important family function on August 1. So, either way, I was going to have to try to move in early and just hope it worked out. Now I just have to hope and pray I can do it July 31 before my flight.

    I'm sure the guy was just trying to be nice, but he was so 100% sure that I could move in then, I didn't think there would be any problems. Oh well. Live and learn I guess.

    In Boston there are always problems. Never believe anything, ever, your landlord tells you unless it's in writing. My suggestion if you can't move-in early is put everything in storage/at friends houses and move it in when you get back. The same goes for Uhaul on big move-in dates, just because you get a confirmation don't plan on having it when they say. Moving in this city is war.

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