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I've been spending a lot of time with my best friend's sister. She has been hanging out with my group of friends and while I am not 100% sure how she feels, my friends are are telling me I should definitely make a move. We have been spending a lot of 1 on 1 time together. However, he is one of my best friends I have made at college and I feel like I should ask him before I do anything. Should I make a move first and see if there is anything actually there and then talk to him, or just call him and talk to him before I do anything? My best friend's girlfriend said he was fine with it, but I feel like I need to talk to him?
If his girlfriend says he's cool with it, he probably is. Say something to him, make a move, don't fuck it up.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderatormod
edited July 2009
To clarify, it's just something big brothers do. I could be totally fine with my friend dating her, but if he didn't come to me first, I'd consider it a betrayal (rational? absolutely not... but she's my baby sister... I'd gladly kill to protect her).
I have no weird masculine tendencies regarding my sister (beating friends up? wtf?), but if a good friend of mine was suddenly interested in dating my sister, it'd definitely be a "what the hell" moment if he didn't talk to me about it.
I don't care about defending honor or watching out for her -- she's her own adult -- but I'd feel like my friend didn't trust me and was simply using me to get to her. If the friend said "hey, I'm thinking of asking your sister out, are you cool with that?" I'd 99% say "sure, need any backup?" The 1% is if my friend is a real loser in some way.
To clarify, it's just something big brothers do. I could be totally fine with my friend dating her, but if he didn't come to me first, I'd consider it a betrayal (rational? absolutely not... but she's my baby sister... I'd gladly kill to protect her).
No, it is not something big brothers do. It's something total morons do. Please take your internet tough guy attitude elsewhere.
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KalTorakOne way or another, they all end up inthe Undercity.Registered Userregular
edited July 2009
She's his sister, not his freaking possession. Treat her like you would any woman you have an interest in - (hopefully) with respect, and let her make the call about whether or not to date you. If she does, cool. Celebrate (possibly with makeouts), then let her brother know that the two of you have decided to date.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderatormod
To clarify, it's just something big brothers do. I could be totally fine with my friend dating her, but if he didn't come to me first, I'd consider it a betrayal (rational? absolutely not... but she's my baby sister... I'd gladly kill to protect her).
No, it is not something big brothers do. It's something total morons do. Please take your internet tough guy attitude elsewhere.
I'm not being a tough guy, it's just the truth. I admitted it wasn't rational behavior.
She makes her choices as she is now past 18. I'd send the brother a message the day you're going to ask her, giving him a heads up so he's not blind sided by the news.
And I don't mean asking for permission, just telling him you're going to do it.
Just because your sister is an adult, doesn't mean you aren't any less protective of her than when she was 12.
@ everyone
I had the same deal when I was in HS...I made sure there was something between me and the sister and then I talked to my best friend. Anecdotal and all that but he was cool with it. And this was after him declaring "no one goes near my sister!".
Has your BFF ever made such declarations?
How did the convo come up with your BFF's GF?
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderatormod
I'm not saying she can't make her own decisions, nor that I would stop her from dating anyone. I'm saying when it comes to someone who's my friend (as in, probably introduced to her by me), if they want my blessing, they should run it by me.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderatormod
To clarify, it's just something big brothers do. I could be totally fine with my friend dating her, but if he didn't come to me first, I'd consider it a betrayal (rational? absolutely not... but she's my baby sister... I'd gladly kill to protect her).
No, it is not something big brothers do. It's something total morons do. Please take your internet tough guy attitude elsewhere.
I'm not being a tough guy, it's just the truth. I admitted it wasn't rational behavior.
How about we find the middle road, here.
This is your best friend's sister. To say that dating her would have no impact on the friendship between you and your friend is a boldfaced lie. It will effect your relationship.
So? Talk to your friend. You don't have to "ask permission" or anything, but you don't want this to be some surprise.
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KalTorakOne way or another, they all end up inthe Undercity.Registered Userregular
I'm not saying she can't make her own decisions, nor that I would stop her from dating anyone. I'm saying when it comes to someone who's my friend (as in, probably introduced to her by me), if they want my blessing, they should run it by me.
Err... and if they don't get your blessing, you beat them up? Doesn't that count as you stopping her from dating them (or trying to)?
Just because your sister is an adult, doesn't mean you aren't any less protective of her than when she was 12.
So you're saying no matter how old she is, she's as capable of taking care of herself as a 12 year old is.
No. What he's saying (poorly) is that a brother still looks out for a younger sister/brother/niece/nephew, and that as a primary relationship is with the brother, you want to make sure it isn't going to blow up into some immense issue. Nothing more.
I don't know. If my friend was interested in my sister I think I'd like to hear it from my friend before he made his move. I think something like "Hey man, I've been pretty interested in your sister for a while and I was going to let you know that I am thinking about asking her out. I am telling you this because I didn't want to make anything awkward between us." Something around that.
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KalTorakOne way or another, they all end up inthe Undercity.Registered Userregular
Just because your sister is an adult, doesn't mean you aren't any less protective of her than when she was 12.
So you're saying no matter how old she is, she's as capable of taking care of herself as a 12 year old is.
No. What he's saying (poorly) is that a brother still looks out for a younger sister/brother/niece/nephew, and that as a primary relationship is with the brother, you want to make sure it isn't going to blow up into some immense issue. Nothing more.
True, but it's stupid to say there's no difference between how you act toward your sister at age 12 than age 20.
If some guy who's a bit older than my 12 year old sister starts kissing her, we're going to have some words.
If some guy who's a bit older than my 20 year old sister starts kissing her, she's probably having a fun time.
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DunxcoShould get a suitNever skips breakfastRegistered Userregular
Just because your sister is an adult, doesn't mean you aren't any less protective of her than when she was 12.
So you're saying no matter how old she is, she's as capable of taking care of herself as a 12 year old is.
That's a bit obtuse, KalTorak - from what I gather, Chanus is just saying that he'd still be protective of his sister if placed in that scenario, not that his sister is unable to take care of herself.
OP: Aaanyway, I'd run it by your friend first, gauge his response, see if it'll be the dealbreaker between you two, and then make a move if it isn't. If it is, I doubt it's worth trashing a friendship over.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderatormod
Just because your sister is an adult, doesn't mean you aren't any less protective of her than when she was 12.
So you're saying no matter how old she is, she's as capable of taking care of herself as a 12 year old is.
No. What he's saying (poorly) is that a brother still looks out for a younger sister/brother/niece/nephew, and that as a primary relationship is with the brother, you want to make sure it isn't going to blow up into some immense issue. Nothing more.
True, but it's stupid to say there's no difference between how you act toward your sister at age 12 than age 20.
If some guy who's a bit older than my 12 year old sister starts kissing her, we're going to have some words.
If some guy who's a bit older than my 20 year old sister starts kissing her, she's probably having a fun time.
If we're just going to discuss this in hyperbole:
Hey, I guess you're just cool whoring out your sister.
Dude, you're the one who's acting as her pimp, making people go through you before they can ask her out.
That's an epic analogy fail right there.
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EshTending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles.Portland, ORRegistered Userregular
edited July 2009
I know you're new here, Chanus, but acting like a musclebound ragetard isn't going to get you very far in the forums.
Dude, you're the one who's acting as her pimp, making people go through you before they can ask her out.
That's an epic analogy fail right there.
I'm not making anyone do anything (and I was being purposefully obtuse in that last post). I'm saying that if someone considers himself my friend, he'd better have the common decency to say, "Hey dude, I think I might like to date your sister".
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderatormod
Dude, you're the one who's acting as her pimp, making people go through you before they can ask her out.
That's an epic analogy fail right there.
I'm not making anyone do anything (and I was being purposefully obtuse in that last post). I'm saying that if someone considers himself my friend, he'd better have the common decency to say, "Hey dude, I think I might like to date your sister".
Or else you'll punch them?
Man if you have a problem with any of your friends dating your adult sister, you probably shouldn't be friends with that guy, which makes your point pretty damn moot.
It's a slap in the face to the friend to just start dating the sister without mentioning anything about it. It says you guys can't talk about that stuff. You don't have to "ask permission". If you guys are good friends, your friend should be cool with it that you wouldn't even have to ask. You're just letting him know before anything happens because you value his friendship so much. You're kind of giving him the inside scoop, so to speak. Maybe he's got some good advice for you, too. He probably knows her better than you.
Holy fucking shit guys. Are you SERIOUS? I don't think he literally meant he'd punch the guy for not asking, I think he meant that he'd be pretty pissed off. Quit fucking arguing over semantics, this isn't helping the OP at all.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderatormod
edited July 2009
Nah, I'm just a neander-man, knuckle-dragging my way through life, clinging to antiquated ideas, shedding a single tear from my egregiously over-sized brow.
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EshTending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles.Portland, ORRegistered Userregular
Holy fucking shit guys. Are you SERIOUS? I don't think he literally meant he'd punch the guy for not asking, I think he meant that he'd be pretty pissed off. Quit fucking arguing over semantics, this isn't helping the OP at all.
That's not semantics. He repeated it several times. Just say "I'd be pissed off".
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I don't care about defending honor or watching out for her -- she's her own adult -- but I'd feel like my friend didn't trust me and was simply using me to get to her. If the friend said "hey, I'm thinking of asking your sister out, are you cool with that?" I'd 99% say "sure, need any backup?" The 1% is if my friend is a real loser in some way.
edit: @Chanus
Please ignore anything this person says in the future.
On that note, be REALLY sure there's something there and then ask him.
No, it is not something big brothers do. It's something total morons do. Please take your internet tough guy attitude elsewhere.
I'm not being a tough guy, it's just the truth. I admitted it wasn't rational behavior.
And I don't mean asking for permission, just telling him you're going to do it.
@ everyone
I had the same deal when I was in HS...I made sure there was something between me and the sister and then I talked to my best friend. Anecdotal and all that but he was cool with it. And this was after him declaring "no one goes near my sister!".
Has your BFF ever made such declarations?
How did the convo come up with your BFF's GF?
I'm not saying she can't make her own decisions, nor that I would stop her from dating anyone. I'm saying when it comes to someone who's my friend (as in, probably introduced to her by me), if they want my blessing, they should run it by me.
How about we find the middle road, here.
This is your best friend's sister. To say that dating her would have no impact on the friendship between you and your friend is a boldfaced lie. It will effect your relationship.
So? Talk to your friend. You don't have to "ask permission" or anything, but you don't want this to be some surprise.
Err... and if they don't get your blessing, you beat them up? Doesn't that count as you stopping her from dating them (or trying to)?
That's not what I'm saying.
So you're saying no matter how old she is, she's as capable of taking care of herself as a 12 year old is.
No. What he's saying (poorly) is that a brother still looks out for a younger sister/brother/niece/nephew, and that as a primary relationship is with the brother, you want to make sure it isn't going to blow up into some immense issue. Nothing more.
True, but it's stupid to say there's no difference between how you act toward your sister at age 12 than age 20.
If some guy who's a bit older than my 12 year old sister starts kissing her, we're going to have some words.
If some guy who's a bit older than my 20 year old sister starts kissing her, she's probably having a fun time.
That's a bit obtuse, KalTorak - from what I gather, Chanus is just saying that he'd still be protective of his sister if placed in that scenario, not that his sister is unable to take care of herself.
OP: Aaanyway, I'd run it by your friend first, gauge his response, see if it'll be the dealbreaker between you two, and then make a move if it isn't. If it is, I doubt it's worth trashing a friendship over.
If we're just going to discuss this in hyperbole:
Hey, I guess you're just cool whoring out your sister.
That's an epic analogy fail right there.
If you don't ask him, and go for his sister he can either a) be cool with it, or b) be completely pissed off and you lose a friend.
If you do ask him he can either a) be cool with it, or b) not like the idea, but appreciate you asking and you don't lose a friend.
I'm not making anyone do anything (and I was being purposefully obtuse in that last post). I'm saying that if someone considers himself my friend, he'd better have the common decency to say, "Hey dude, I think I might like to date your sister".
It seems to me I'm simply being portrayed as such... by you.
I'm sorry, but you're the one who said "I'm going to kick the shit out of someone who doesn't ask to date my sister".
You're portraying it just fine yourself.
Or else you'll punch them?
Man if you have a problem with any of your friends dating your adult sister, you probably shouldn't be friends with that guy, which makes your point pretty damn moot.
That's not semantics. He repeated it several times. Just say "I'd be pissed off".