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Retarded Hikers Arrested in Iran

Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worsebefore it gets any better.Registered User regular
edited August 2009 in Social Entropy++
BBC News wrote:
Three Americans arrested after apparently straying into Iran are being questioned by police, Iranian state television has reported.

"We don't know whether they are tourists or not. We are questioning them," said a local security official.

Iranian officials have accused the three of ignoring warnings from border guards and crossing over from Iraq's Kurdish region on Friday.

The frontier between Iran and Iraq in the region is said to be poorly marked.

Iraj Hassanzadeh, the deputy governor of Iran's Kurdistan province, told Iran's Fars news agency the trio were arrested on the Malakh-Khor border, near the town of Marivan, but that their identities were not yet known.

"Anyone who seeks to illegally enter the country from the Kurdistan border will be arrested," he said.

'Gifted'

The detained Americans have been named by relatives as Shane Bauer, a Middle East-based freelance journalist from Minnesota, his girlfriend, Sarah Shourd, and Joshua Fattal from Pennsylvania, whose father is Iraqi.

All three are reported to be experienced travellers

Mr Bauer, an Arabic speaker, had been studying the Middle East and planned to report on forthcoming Kurdish elections in Iraq for the California-based New America Media (NAM), said the group's executive director, Sandy Close.

Ms Close said Mr Bauer was a "gifted young correspondent" and had not had any plans to cross into Iran.

"How he'd gone into the hills, how he wound up crossing the border I have no idea, but never in the year we've been in correspondence has he indicated any interest in covering Iran," she told the Associated Press, adding that Mr Bauer did not speak Farsi.

"It's unthinkable to me that he would have just simply decided on some crash adventure," she said.

Mr Fattal's mother, Laura, told CNN she and her husband were "eager for the best welfare and conditions" for their son and his companions.
On Monday, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said she was "concerned" and appealed for their safe return.

The BBC's Jon Donnison in Washington says the detentions are possibly the last thing the US government wants given how strained relations already are by the dispute over Iran's nuclear ambitions and its recent presidential election.

Hey, retards, shocking update: maybe hiking in the mountains on the border, WHERE YOU WERE TOLD BY HOTEL EMPLOYEES NOT TO GO, was a stupid fucking idea you arrogant fucking hippies. Get a real job, goddamn.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Don't worry Hillary will get it all under control.

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  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom try The Substance it changed my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Apparently, there was supposed to be a 4th hiker on the trip, but he caught the flu and had to stay home and miss out on all the fun they were going to have together. Are they having fun now? Probably not. Besides, who the fuck would even want to go to Iraq for vacation? Idiots.

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Seriously, what the fuck are you going to goddamn Kurdistan to hike for?

    What, the fucking pacific northwest or Appalachian trail or the Canadian cascade range or whatever the fuck isn't good enough? The prospect of being lined up against a wall and shot shortly after being gang-raped is exciting or some shit?

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  • The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    Butters wrote: »
    Don't worry Hillary will get it all under control.

    Not unless someone snuck a snuke up her snizz.

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  • thorgotthorgot there is special providence in the fall of a sparrowRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Former US President Bill Clinton has met North Korean leader Kim Jong-il during an unannounced visit to the country, state media have announced.

    Mr Clinton is in Pyongyang to discuss the fate of jailed US journalists Laura Ling and Euna Lee.

    He is the highest-profile American to visit since his secretary of state, Madeleine Albright, in 2000.

    Analysts say Mr Clinton may also try to ease the deadlock over the North's nuclear ambitions.

    The Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) said that Mr Clinton had "courteously" conveyed a verbal message from US President Barack Obama, although the White House said that Mr Clinton had not carried a message from Mr Obama.

    Washington made no announcement of Mr Clinton's trip prior to his arrival, but in a later statement stressed that this was a private visit.

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Wait, is Bill Clinton a spy?

    The loose women... the cigars... the flippant attitude... IT ALL MAKES SENSE!

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  • MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Bill Clinton is there on a confidential mission to impregnate as many north korean women as possible so that in a generation hillbillies will take over the country from the inside

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Mysst wrote: »
    Bill Clinton is there on a confidential mission to impregnate as many north korean women as possible so that in a generation hillbillies will take over the country from the inside

    A mission perfectly suited to Bill's unique talents

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  • MorgensternMorgenstern ICH BIN DER PESTVOGEL DU KAMPFAFFE!Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    These people sound retarded. I was reading up on them earlier in the day.

    Edit: Yea, they all went to UC-Berkeley. Not as bad as UC-Santa Cruz, but close enough.

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  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom try The Substance it changed my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Apparently, he's also on a mission to "rescue" 2 female reporters for Al Gore's Current TV media venture who thought they could illegally enter a country like said idiotic hikers. Of course, he'll probably ask the reporters for a "favor" in return for his rescuing them.

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I'm kind of curious as to what President Obama's gonna do about the situations in North Korea and Iran.

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    Bill Clinton is there on a confidential mission to impregnate as many north korean women as possible so that in a generation hillbillies will take over the country from the inside

    A mission perfectly suited to Bill's unique talents

    the bill clinton episode of Family Guy was actually pretty great.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Apparently, he's also on a mission to "rescue" 2 female reporters for Al Gore's Current TV media venture who thought they could illegally enter a country like said idiotic hikers. Of course, he'll probably ask the reporters for a "favor" in return for his rescuing them.

    There's a good chance those reporters were on the Chinese side of the border when they were arrested.

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I'm kind of curious as to what President Obama's gonna do about the situations in North Korea and Iran.

    It's really gotta suck for him, right now

    Economic collapse, reporters hostage in North Korea, Iran eating itself, Somali pirates all up in our grill, plus healthcare reform

    I don't think a President has had to deal with so much bullshit in his first year in my lifetime

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  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom try The Substance it changed my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I couldn't be President. I'd be like, "Well, you're idiotic enough to think you can just walk into any country you want and nobody will stop you? Haven't you heard of border guards? You haven't? Then fuck you. I'll ask for your freedom after you get educated the hard way. As for me, I need a vacation from you idiots. I'm going to Malibu! And I'm not going illegally, unlike you! Who even vacations in Iraq? Christ."

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    Metzger why you so angry?

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Sweeney you're kind of dumb.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    They weren't vacationing. Can you read, Sweeney?

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  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom try The Substance it changed my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Butters wrote: »
    Apparently, he's also on a mission to "rescue" 2 female reporters for Al Gore's Current TV media venture who thought they could illegally enter a country like said idiotic hikers. Of course, he'll probably ask the reporters for a "favor" in return for his rescuing them.

    There's a good chance those reporters were on the Chinese side of the border when they were arrested.

    They were along the border, so you may be right. But the point is, you aren't supposed to be over by the border. At least they're smarter than the damn hikers. And what cracks me up is the people arrested in Iran were supposed to be expert hikers. Hahahaha, if they're "experts" then why are they in Iranian jail right now?

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    Butters wrote: »
    They weren't vacationing. Can you read, Sweeney?
    he ain't got time to read

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Druhim wrote: »
    Metzger why you so angry?

    I dunno. It seems like these kids represent everything that's wrong with the fucking young people of this country. They feel like, despite warnings from people more knowledgeable than they are, that they can go wherever they want with no repercussions! Over-educated, young activists who go to obviously unstable regions so they can say they're well-traveled and be impressive to their retarded white-kid-with-dreadlocks friends.

    Also there's been some personal drama lately with me and I'm just in a foul mood, don't mind me.

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    Druhim wrote: »
    Metzger why you so angry?

    I dunno. It seems like these kids represent everything that's wrong with the fucking young people of this country. They feel like, despite warnings from people more knowledgeable than they are, that they can go wherever they want with no repercussions! Over-educated, under-achievers globe-trotting on mommy and daddy's dime so they can say they're well-traveled and be impressive to their retarded white-kid-with-dreadlocks friends.

    Also there's been some personal drama lately with me and I'm just in a foul mood, don't mind me.
    god, I'm supposed to be the old man here and yet you're carrying on about what's supposedly wrong with the young people in this country and bashing education and traveling.

    But I'll cut you slack because of the drama. Hope things get better for ya dude.

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  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom try The Substance it changed my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I wasn't talking about them when I mentioned the vacationing part, I was talking about the American hikers at that point, because I were President, I wouldn't even want to deal with all this stuff. Everyday, Obama looks a little bit older.

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Druhim wrote: »
    Druhim wrote: »
    Metzger why you so angry?

    I dunno. It seems like these kids represent everything that's wrong with the fucking young people of this country. They feel like, despite warnings from people more knowledgeable than they are, that they can go wherever they want with no repercussions! Over-educated, under-achievers globe-trotting on mommy and daddy's dime so they can say they're well-traveled and be impressive to their retarded white-kid-with-dreadlocks friends.

    Also there's been some personal drama lately with me and I'm just in a foul mood, don't mind me.
    god, I'm supposed to be the old man here and yet you're carrying on about what's supposedly wrong with the young people in this country and bashing education and traveling.

    But I'll cut you slack because of the drama. Hope things get better for ya dude.

    Thanks dru.

    edit: Also, I don't really have a problem with college education or traveling (in fact i think travel is good) but these kids are obviously just adventuring to dangerous parts of the world without really examining the potential consequences, and that is arrogant beyond belief.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Butters wrote: »
    Apparently, he's also on a mission to "rescue" 2 female reporters for Al Gore's Current TV media venture who thought they could illegally enter a country like said idiotic hikers. Of course, he'll probably ask the reporters for a "favor" in return for his rescuing them.

    There's a good chance those reporters were on the Chinese side of the border when they were arrested.

    They were along the border, so you may be right. But the point is, you aren't supposed to be over by the border. At least they're smarter than the damn hikers. And what cracks me up is the people arrested in Iran were supposed to be expert hikers. Hahahaha, if they're "experts" then why are they in Iranian jail right now?

    They may not be the brightest of individuals but should we really condemn civilians to prison in either of the most oppressive regimes on earth if there's a chance they didn't actually violate their laws? You're being awfully thick-headed.

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    The real tragedy here is that there's almost nothing we can do, as a nation, in either of these cases. And it isn't like the families of these people are eccentric billionaires like Ross Perot, and can hire a crack team of mercenaries or something.

    Man, I never found out how that whole thing ended with Ross Perot's A-Team.

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  • KrunkMcGrunkKrunkMcGrunk Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Druhim wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    They weren't vacationing. Can you read, Sweeney?
    he ain't got time to read

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    Jesse Ventura looks a lot like Ben Franklin now.

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  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom try The Substance it changed my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Butters wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    Apparently, he's also on a mission to "rescue" 2 female reporters for Al Gore's Current TV media venture who thought they could illegally enter a country like said idiotic hikers. Of course, he'll probably ask the reporters for a "favor" in return for his rescuing them.

    There's a good chance those reporters were on the Chinese side of the border when they were arrested.

    They were along the border, so you may be right. But the point is, you aren't supposed to be over by the border. At least they're smarter than the damn hikers. And what cracks me up is the people arrested in Iran were supposed to be expert hikers. Hahahaha, if they're "experts" then why are they in Iranian jail right now?

    They may not be the brightest of individuals but should we really condemn civilians to prison in either of the most oppressive regimes on earth if there's a chance they didn't actually violate their laws? You're being awfully thick-headed.

    I know, and I'm sorry for that. It's just that whenever I read about stuff like this, I automatically think that the persons in jail, or held hostage, were being idiots and got what they deserved. I read about idiotic things happening so much in the news, I automatically think that whenever someone got arrested over by, or crossing, a border, they were trying to see how much they could press their luck.

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Druhim wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    They weren't vacationing. Can you read, Sweeney?
    he ain't got time to read

    20080515_ventura2_33.jpg

    Jesse Ventura looks a lot like Ben Franklin now.

    Fun fact: Ben Franklin totally suplexed Thomas Jefferson through a table once

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  • AirAir Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    Butters wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    Apparently, he's also on a mission to "rescue" 2 female reporters for Al Gore's Current TV media venture who thought they could illegally enter a country like said idiotic hikers. Of course, he'll probably ask the reporters for a "favor" in return for his rescuing them.

    There's a good chance those reporters were on the Chinese side of the border when they were arrested.

    They were along the border, so you may be right. But the point is, you aren't supposed to be over by the border. At least they're smarter than the damn hikers. And what cracks me up is the people arrested in Iran were supposed to be expert hikers. Hahahaha, if they're "experts" then why are they in Iranian jail right now?

    They may not be the brightest of individuals but should we really condemn civilians to prison in either of the most oppressive regimes on earth if there's a chance they didn't actually violate their laws? You're being awfully thick-headed.

    I know, and I'm sorry for that. It's just that whenever I read about stuff like this, I automatically think that the persons in jail, or held hostage, were being idiots and got what they deserved. I read about idiotic things happening so much in the news, I automatically think that whenever someone got arrested over by, or crossing, a border, they were trying to see how much they could press their luck.
    well we can only hope that you end up facing some punishment that far exceeds the nature of whatever crime you may or may not have committed so that we can all laugh about how you obviously deserve it for being so stupid.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I wonder how that conversation went.

    "hey guys, let's go hiking close to, but not over, the unmarked rural border with Iran with our journalist friend"

    Absolutely nothing bad could come from that. Nothing at all.

    Even thinking about what the fuck they were doing for two seconds leads you to either they are A: retarded, B: planning to sneak into Iran (which also falls under the purview of A), or C: Genuinely lost, which goes against the concept of experienced hikers. Also, if I was planning on hiking in that area, knowing full well that getting lost would lead to a major shitstorm, I'd check my fucking maps.

    Edit: Which is not to say the punishment or their treatment is fair, but really - it's hardly a surprise what has happened and you really do have to think that they had some ulterior motive here.

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  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom try The Substance it changed my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Druhim wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    Apparently, he's also on a mission to "rescue" 2 female reporters for Al Gore's Current TV media venture who thought they could illegally enter a country like said idiotic hikers. Of course, he'll probably ask the reporters for a "favor" in return for his rescuing them.

    There's a good chance those reporters were on the Chinese side of the border when they were arrested.

    They were along the border, so you may be right. But the point is, you aren't supposed to be over by the border. At least they're smarter than the damn hikers. And what cracks me up is the people arrested in Iran were supposed to be expert hikers. Hahahaha, if they're "experts" then why are they in Iranian jail right now?

    They may not be the brightest of individuals but should we really condemn civilians to prison in either of the most oppressive regimes on earth if there's a chance they didn't actually violate their laws? You're being awfully thick-headed.

    I know, and I'm sorry for that. It's just that whenever I read about stuff like this, I automatically think that the persons in jail, or held hostage, were being idiots and got what they deserved. I read about idiotic things happening so much in the news, I automatically think that whenever someone got arrested over by, or crossing, a border, they were trying to see how much they could press their luck.
    well we can only hope that you end up facing some punishment that far exceeds the nature of whatever crime you may or may not have committed so that we can all laugh about how you obviously deserve it for being so stupid.

    You kidding? I broke my arm twice and foot once doing idiotic things. Go ahead and laugh about it, I couldn't stop laughing when it happened.

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  • CalliusCallius Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I dunno. It seems like these kids represent everything that's wrong with the fucking young people of this country. They feel like, despite warnings from people more knowledgeable than they are, that they can go wherever they want with no repercussions! Over-educated, young activists who go to obviously unstable regions so they can say they're well-traveled and be impressive to their retarded white-kid-with-dreadlocks friends.

    Also there's been some personal drama lately with me and I'm just in a foul mood, don't mind me.
    Shut up, dumb ass.

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    Druhim wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    Apparently, he's also on a mission to "rescue" 2 female reporters for Al Gore's Current TV media venture who thought they could illegally enter a country like said idiotic hikers. Of course, he'll probably ask the reporters for a "favor" in return for his rescuing them.

    There's a good chance those reporters were on the Chinese side of the border when they were arrested.

    They were along the border, so you may be right. But the point is, you aren't supposed to be over by the border. At least they're smarter than the damn hikers. And what cracks me up is the people arrested in Iran were supposed to be expert hikers. Hahahaha, if they're "experts" then why are they in Iranian jail right now?

    They may not be the brightest of individuals but should we really condemn civilians to prison in either of the most oppressive regimes on earth if there's a chance they didn't actually violate their laws? You're being awfully thick-headed.

    I know, and I'm sorry for that. It's just that whenever I read about stuff like this, I automatically think that the persons in jail, or held hostage, were being idiots and got what they deserved. I read about idiotic things happening so much in the news, I automatically think that whenever someone got arrested over by, or crossing, a border, they were trying to see how much they could press their luck.
    well we can only hope that you end up facing some punishment that far exceeds the nature of whatever crime you may or may not have committed so that we can all laugh about how you obviously deserve it for being so stupid.

    You kidding? I broke my arm twice and foot once doing idiotic things. Go ahead and laugh about it, I couldn't stop laughing when it happened.
    that's hardly punishment that far exceeds the nature of some imagined crime
    but try again

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  • M.D.M.D. and then what happens? Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    God Iran, god

    gotta deal with you people every day

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  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom try The Substance it changed my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    It was punishment. I kicked the dude who got me to do the stupid things that made me break those bones in the nuts a couple days before he got me to do the stupid things that made me break the bones.

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    It was punishment. I kicked the dude who got me to do the stupid things that made me break those bones in the nuts a couple days before he got me to do the stupid things that made me break the bones.
    you've established that you're not very bright, so we'll just end this here

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  • SnowbeatSnowbeat i need something to kick this thing's ass over the lineRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    is it so hard to believe that some people just got lost in the trackless wilderness and then got captured by a government that has been trying incredibly hard over the past few months to prove that the united states is trying to interfere with their business

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  • AirAir Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    this is the scene i was looking for
    the second one in this clip, from about 1:10

    showing just how easy it is to get lost over border lines
    assuming you got any business being in the area to begin with

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fazIXDY1Ixc&feature=channel

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