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Any Guys Out There Help, Please!!!!

TQueenTQueen Registered User new member
edited August 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
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  • Bendery It Like BeckhamBendery It Like Beckham Hopeless Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    it's over, don't get back together, it'll only hurt more in the long run. speaking from experience.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Cut off all contact for a few months, then see if you can still get along and not want to date him. Friends with an ex can work, but iltimately this relationship is over and you need a break to start the healing.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    TQueen wrote: »
    (there was never anything really wrong with our relationship, and nothing happened to make us break up - it was just based on uncertainties of him thinking he could 'do better' in a way)
    You're telling me you actually want to be in a relationship with a guy who 'thinks he can do better' than you?


    Seriously?


    DTMFA

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    TQueen wrote: »
    (there was never anything really wrong with our relationship, and nothing happened to make us break up - it was just based on uncertainties of him thinking he could 'do better' in a way)
    You're telling me you actually want to be in a relationship with a guy who 'thinks he can do better' than you?


    Seriously?


    DTMFA

    I'm not going to touch that last part, but to the first thing she says, I too have ended a relationship that had no problems.
    Well, except for the fact that I was very interested in someone else and couldn't see myself with my current for the rest of my life.
    It happens and it sucks but it fucking happens

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    TQueen wrote: »
    (there was never anything really wrong with our relationship, and nothing happened to make us break up - it was just based on uncertainties of him thinking he could 'do better' in a way)
    You're telling me you actually want to be in a relationship with a guy who 'thinks he can do better' than you?


    Seriously?


    DTMFA

    I'm not going to touch that last part, but to the first thing she says, I too have ended a relationship that had no problems.
    Well, except for the fact that I was very interested in someone else and couldn't see myself with my current for the rest of my life.
    It happens and it sucks but it fucking happens
    There's a difference between being in a comfortable relationship where you've fallen out of love with the person, and you find someone who you can fall in love with, and telling the person you're in a relationship that you want to break up because you think you can do better (assuming he actually said/implied this, and it's not just her thinking it, of course). There's nothing wrong with the first one, it happens all the time. The second one though makes you a gigantic asshole, especially if you then continue seeing the person and talking about getting back together.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    In that case, it sounds like he found someone else, broke up with you, it didn't work out with the someone else, and now you've become the fall-back.

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  • widowsonwidowson Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    TQueen wrote: »
    I guess i should have been more clear....he said to me that he thought, for some reason, the grass was going to be greener on the other side (this implied to me that he was thinking he could do better, however, he could have simply been talking about being single). He also told me that he was wrong in thinking this, and now hes scared that hes never going to find someone as non-judgmental as Iam. Everyone just keeps telling me to move on because hes being stupid, but its easier said then done (i think its hard because essentially there was nothing that went wrong in the relationship, and we both still enjoy eachothers company and still care for eachother)


    If he really loved you, he wouldn't be looking elsewhere for "greener grass".

    Sorry. I don't think he loves you. I'm a guy and if a man really loves a woman, he makes it happen.

    It's best to make a clean break, suck up the hurt and heal, rather than string it along like a festering wound that never mends.

    You deserve better than someone who is so brazen and/or immature and/or cold that they'd dump you to see if they could do better.

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  • BobbleBobble Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Some speculation on my part, but I'm guessing for a good portion of 11 months your lives have been intertwined. It's been routine to think of the other person in relation to a lot of things. "Hmm, early lunch today, I wonder if [boyfriend] could meet me." or "oh, that book looks interesting, I bet [girlfriend] would like that for her birthday" or "oh that looks like a fun place for us to go Friday night"

    You two need to get readjusted to life apart. Seeing one another on a regular basis is going to impede the process of breaking those habits.

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  • HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    TQ,

    There may have been no problems in the relationship, not going to question that.

    However, it sounds to me that this guy doesn't know what he wants.

    "Grass being greener" has the ring of a guy who wants to experience other women but doesn't want to say it like that. And pursuing a relationship with a guy who may not want commitment of any sort... well, that's not going to be good for you (or him).

    And getting scared later that he's "never going to find someone as non-judgmental as you"... well, the guy could've paid a much better compliment than that. Maybe he has, maybe he said more than that, too. But if that's the part that stands out to you, it doesn't impress me as commitment at all.

    The dude perhaps wants to have his cake and eat it too.

    In fact, most of us do.

    I'd say try to keep your emotional distance until this fella figures out what he wants.

    Until he's certain of anything, he's got a pretty good chance of hurting your feelings and also your ability to stay friends.

    I would call this taking care of yourself.

    So take care of yourself!

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    TQueen wrote: »
    Yeah when he made the whole 'grass being greener' comment, he pretty much told me that he wanted to play the field, but has now realized that he hates being single, and it isnt what he wanted. jerk move, I know (he kinda has a big ego, so I could see why he would start to maybe think "oh i can do better then her")

    The not being judgmental part just stuck out in my mind because he said it yesterday when we talked....I guess i should have elaborated more to say that hes scared hell never find another relationship where he can be 100% honest with a girl and have her not judge him (and vice versa) - this is a big deal for both of us because we are both fairly open and honest people, and have always been that way with each other, no matter what the topic is.

    Yeah alot of people have told me lately that he wants to 'have his cake and eat it too' - for this reason most people say i just forget about him and move on. But as Bobble said, its hard to adjust to that right now when Im so used to him being such a huge part of my life. I think its best for me to keep an emotional distance, as suggested, until I have enough confidence in my ex having figured his stuff out.
    It's not a healthy relationship though, and you getting back together with him at any point will only tell him that he's free to do the same thing again in the future with no repercussions. Congratulations on him realizing that he hates being single, but why the heck didn't he realize that while he was with you.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    It generally takes personal experience to understand this, but maybe throwing it out there will help.
    Outside perspective is ridiculously valuable and, especially when it comes to relationships, is pretty fucking accurate. The only thing you have that the outside doesn't is the personal interactions and well... those aren't the worth much of anything if what everyone else sees is fucking horrible.
    It takes a lot to say "you guys are right and I'll do that even if it is hard".

    I doubt you'll take our advice 100%, but I hope you start really looking at what happens with a critical eye.

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  • eternalbleternalbl Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    It sounds like the guy's just as confused as you. IMO, someone better isn't about someone better than you but someone who's better for him. He wants things to stay the same because it sucks being single after being with someone for so long, especially when there's no particular reason to break up besides thinking the person isn't right for you.

    I'd say it'd be wise for you to stop talking to him for a while until you cool down. Breaking up is hard to do especially when you keep refreshing the same emotions toward the other person by being in contact with them.

    I'd bet his intentions are in the right place, caring for you in the only way he feels he can without truly stringing you along, but anything he does for a while will probably give you a false hope that he's interested in getting back together with you rather than him just being afraid of change.

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  • IconoclysmIconoclysm Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    He's behaved in a emotionally selfish and juvenile way and you don't deserve that balderdash. I just wanted to chip in with a recommendation to avoid being friends with him for a good long while to get some much needed perspective and emotional distance.

    You've gotten some great advice from everyone here, and Improvolone summed it up nicely with "I doubt you'll take our advice 100%, but I hope you start really looking at what happens with a critical eye."

    Oh and if you find yourself hoping he gets his junk slammed in a filing cabinet drawer, don't worry, that's perfectly normal.

    <edit> Just seen you're last reply. You're doing the right thing gal. Stay strong! </edit>

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  • BobbleBobble Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Part of his "less judgemental" bit may have been his own concern about putting himself out there again. He's comfortable with you, as your feelings toward him are a known quantity. It's been a long time since he's had to actually risk anything emotionally with someone he doesn't know.

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  • underdonkunderdonk __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    I think you should dump the zero and get with the hero*.

    You guys are in your early 20's. This is a time when it's natural to want to go explore the world, including its people, and see what's out there. I didn't want to be in a long term relationship in my early 20's, maybe he doesn't either. Honestly, he probably still doesn't, but now that he's broken things off with you he misses the routine and feeling of comfort more than he actually misses you. I know that sounds harsh, and it kind of is, but it has been my experience that if someone is mentally prepared to leave a significant other, they will still feel "bad" after leaving. This feeling doesn't come from a "oh I'm so sad I left them abloo bloo bloo" but rather from a "it's different and difficult not having someone in my life as I've had for the past X years". Change is hard. So, essentially, what I'm saying is the danger in getting back together with him in this case is that he'll realize, once he settles back in, that it wasn't really you he missed. It was the change that made him feel uncomfortable. You're setting yourself up to be hurt again by getting back together with him, IMO.

    *Underdonk

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  • Bliss 101Bliss 101 Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    You need a longer break, and a break isn't really a break if you keep in constant contact with each other. Take at least a couple of months, agree on a date after that where you meet up and talk and see how both of you feel at that point. Explain the situation to your mutual friends to avoid awkward situations during the break.

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  • WonderMinkWonderMink Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Sounds over. Sounds like he didn't appreciate you anyway. You are probably young. Why waste your time?

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  • HalfmexHalfmex I mock your value system You also appear foolish in the eyes of othersRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    You're both in your early twenties, he's being wishy-washy (which is normal for guys and gals at that age), and "I don't know what I want" pretty much never results in a stable, happy relationship down the line.

    Stay separated, cut off contact for a long time (a few months at least) and get on with your own lives. Respect the time that you've both had together but go out and experience new things (and people) on your own. You'll both be much happier for it in the long run, I assure you.

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    2-3 months no contact whatsoever before you even try to reexamine your feelings towards each other.

    You've got to learn how to be single again before you can evaluate how your relationship was.

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  • Jebus314Jebus314 Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    My 0.02

    I don't think I'd put too much weight into the "grass is greener' comment. Personally I think some of the people on here are over reacting. I'm not saying this guy is a gem, he might be a total dick, but I think feelings of uncertainty are common for people who haven't dated a lot. He certainly didn't handle it well, but I think it's probably pretty common for someone who goes from not really having dated a whole lot, to being in a longer committed relationship to wonder if they are missing out on something.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is it's easy for someone with lots of dating experience to know when they meet someone that they are truly in love with. If the first person you ever date turns out to be that person, you have no yard stick to measure you're feelings. Even if you are really enamored with your SO, if you've never been with someone that you thought you liked but it turned out you didn't love, so it's hard to judge.

    Anyways to rap up my ramblings, I don't think you should write this guy off as a loser. But I most certainly think you need to continue to be apart for a while. He needs time to decide what he really wants. I think the best bet would be to stay apart at least long enough for you to develop other interests. If you've been apart long enough that you wouldn't feel bad dating someone else, and you've developed some crushes, or have maybe even dated 1 or 2 other people, and you then decide that you like this guy the most; then you should get back together.

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  • VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    In that case, it sounds like he found someone else, broke up with you, it didn't work out with the someone else, and now you've become the fall-back.



    This.

    I'm so sorry to tell you, but the above is (sadly) exactly the situation it sounds like to me.

    However, you have one thing in your favor: you have the ability to get over him, find a nice guy, and in doing so make him regret ever trying to be such a selfish prick.

    Toss him to the curb like a bad habit. It's going to be very hard, but I can promise you that a year from now you'll look back on this as being a fantastic turn of good fortune.

    Think about it rationally: he obviously thinks he can "do better" than you. He's coming back because he's afraid he won't find anyone better than you (EDIT: or the person he found "didn't work", either way brings the same conclusion here). The logical conclusion is that the moment he finds someone interested in him who he considers to be "better", you're going to be tossed in the garbage heap.

    Why live like that? Why let someone treat you like that? Pardon my language, but F--- that. No one deserves to be treated like that.

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Oh, whoa! Glad things are looking up for you! Good luck!

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  • GreasyKidsStuffGreasyKidsStuff MOMMM! ROAST BEEF WANTS TO KISS GIRLS ON THE TITTIES!Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I am in, not even exaggerating, the exact same situation. Only I'm the guy :/ And it's no fun.

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