I have scoliosis. Pretty bad too. Not like, "omg hunchback" bad, more like, something around 30-33 degrees of rotation. While its not too painful normally, even sometimes not bad at all, I do have to be exceedingly picky about sleeping and sitting for long periods. It makes it hard to sit still at times and I've noticed it forces my neck and head forward slightly, not a lot, but it just naturally pushes forward a bit.
Bear in mind, if you looked at me on the street you would never notice, its really only noticeable when you lean way in or anything like that.
Anyway, do you guys have any recommendations for putting up with back pains? I plan on seeing the doc eventually about this but if any of you have any experience I would love to hear what kinds of things you have been through.
I have scoliosis. Pretty bad too. Not like, "omg hunchback" bad, more like, something around 30-33 degrees of rotation. While its not too painful normally, even sometimes not bad at all, I do have to be exceedingly picky about sleeping and sitting for long periods. It makes it hard to sit still at times and I've noticed it forces my neck and head forward slightly, not a lot, but it just naturally pushes forward a bit.
Bear in mind, if you looked at me on the street you would never notice, its really only noticeable when you lean way in or anything like that.
Anyway, do you guys have any recommendations for putting up with back pains? I plan on seeing the doc eventually about this but if any of you have any experience I would love to hear what kinds of things you have been through.
Were you diagnosed with scoliosis or is that an assumption? There are lots of forms of arthritis that can fuse your spine if you don't seek treatment and control the inflamed discs. Ankylosing Spondylitis for example. DO NOT FUCK WITH YOUR SPINE.
I have minor scoliosis. I have a 13 degree bend which isn't noticeable at all... unless I'm bending over in front of you and you're feeling my spine... and if you're doing that, well, I've probably had a few too many. There is only one thing that seems to help when I am in pain: a combination of naproxen and tramadol. You can get the former over the counter (Aleve) and the latter can be had by prescription, which you will have no problems getting with a 30 degree bend in your spine. I've tried a chiropractor (as good as a nice massage) and physical therapy (helped some but not a lot), but neither helped as much as the pills. Better living through chemistry and all of that.
EDIT: I should mention that the combination of these two medications is magical. As in, something special happens when you take them both together and the affect on your body is greatly enhanced over what relief you would normally get when taking the two of them separately. This combination, obviously, is taken under a doctor's direction and supervision. Oh, and don't get addicted to the tramadol. It is addictive, so if you try it, make sure you can use some self control.
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Its diagnosed scoliosis. Started back when I was back in high school. I'm 24 now and thinking I might want to get it taken care of for real this time. Frustratingly the only useful options look like something between bone fusion in the spine and metal plates. Obviously I'll need to talk to the doc about those kinda options.
Tramadol should be taken with acetaminophen (tylenol).
If you're on Tramadol it's because you're going to be taking the generic for Ultracet (Ultram). Ultracet is just tramadol and acetaminophen in a single pill, but it is still under exclusive patent.
Be warned, it can be claimed to be non habit forming all they want to, it is addictive. It also reduces respiration and causes euphoria.
Thirded the warning about Tramadol. Whilst it is my drug of choice for pain relief, it is addictive. I feel great when I'm taking it, and either don't notice the pain or just don't care about it. I find it much better than Mefanamic acid, which can cause stomach ulcers, but most of the time I just take Paracetamol (Tylenol) and Ibuprofen, with something to protect my stomach beforehand, as the mefanamic acid has made me sensitive to aspirin group drugs.
I, too have scoliosis - caused by Poland's syndrome. I found exercising helped, specially a rowing machine / weights, as both strengthened the muscles in my back, and helped with posture. My spine spins anti clockwise (if looking down from my head) and bends slightly to the left and then back to the right (when looking at my back). Its a bit weird, but OK.
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If you're on Tramadol one of your options is to take the generic for Ultracet (Ultram). Ultracet is just tramadol and acetaminophen in a single pill, but it is still under exclusive patent.
take drugs like tramadol only occasionally. a better option is to do back strengthening exercises, every day or very frequently, for the rest of your life. that will ease or eliminate the pain AND it won't get you a life-long addiction to painkillers!
take drugs like tramadol only occasionally. a better option is to do back strengthening exercises, every day or very frequently, for the rest of your life. that will ease or eliminate the pain AND it won't get you a life-long addiction to painkillers!
What's wrong with being addicted to painkillers if you are taking them for a valid medical reason?
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take drugs like tramadol only occasionally. a better option is to do back strengthening exercises, every day or very frequently, for the rest of your life. that will ease or eliminate the pain AND it won't get you a life-long addiction to painkillers!
What's wrong with being addicted to painkillers if you are taking them for a valid medical reason?
Long term pain relief through narcotics is a sad road to go down and the longer you can delay upping the dose or switching meds, the better off you are. There's nothing wrong with controlling pain using medication, but to use it exclusively when other things may help is a bad idea. Your best bet is to stay active and keep things as minimal as needed with meds.
Narcotic pain relief is great, but it lowers your pain tolerance and slows peristalsis to a crawl. If you think you've been constipated before, wait until you're on a time-release morphine or fentanyl patch.
i have pretty bad scoliosis. i was diagnosed when i was 12 with a 59 degree curve. i had the surgery where the spine is straightened and bolted into (somewhat) place with bars attatched at near the top and bottom, one on each side (like a splint) when i was 13. later that year i (being a dumbass 13 yr old boy) fell out of a treehouse onto (and through) a dog house, which popped the bottom bolts on both bars out of the vertebrae they were in. i had to have another surgery where longer bars were swapped in and this time bolted to the top of my pelvis. woke up from that surgery in icu on my 14th birthday. makes for a great story about how most kids have clowns or sleepovers, i did $6,000 worth of liquid demerol and played super mario kart inbetween naps.
as far as relieving/minimizing back pain
1) always wear comfortable shoes. avoid shoes like flips-flops with thin soles. if you tend to walk to the outstep (like i do) or instep and the soles wear out faster on one side, don't put off replacing them.
2) try to avoid sitting on the edge of a bed/table/bench or sitting forward in a chair. sit up straight, but try to minimize sitting in something without back support.
3) if you're overweight, lose it asap. you'd be amazed how much of a strain even 10 or 20 extra pounds puts on your skeletal system.
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take drugs like tramadol only occasionally. a better option is to do back strengthening exercises, every day or very frequently, for the rest of your life. that will ease or eliminate the pain AND it won't get you a life-long addiction to painkillers!
What's wrong with being addicted to painkillers if you are taking them for a valid medical reason?
Long term pain relief through narcotics is a sad road to go down and the longer you can delay upping the dose or switching meds, the better off you are.
Why is it a sad road to go down? We're not talking about someone giving handjobs in a phone booth for oxy, we're talking about prescribed and monitored pain relief under the care of a doctor for a valid medical condition. Why does everyone focus so much on narcotic pain killers as being such a horrible thing when half of the god damn world is on antidepressants that are just as addictive and have just as bad, if not worse, side effects, and no one has a problem with that? The only difference in the two classes of drugs (they both fuck with your brain chemistry, just in different ways) is when you quit an antidepressant, you go through "discontinuation syndrome" and when you quit pain killers, you go through "withdrawal". It's the same damn thing just a different name! Schedule the antidepressants, I say. Let's see doctors hand 'em out like candy then.
Sorry, I know we're kind of getting off topic here.
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Back in the day, bucko, we just had an A and a B button... and we liked it.
take drugs like tramadol only occasionally. a better option is to do back strengthening exercises, every day or very frequently, for the rest of your life. that will ease or eliminate the pain AND it won't get you a life-long addiction to painkillers!
What's wrong with being addicted to painkillers if you are taking them for a valid medical reason?
Long term pain relief through narcotics is a sad road to go down and the longer you can delay upping the dose or switching meds, the better off you are.
Why is it a sad road to go down? We're not talking about someone giving handjobs in a phone booth for oxy, we're talking about prescribed and monitored pain relief under the care of a doctor for a valid medical condition. Why does everyone focus so much on narcotic pain killers as being such a horrible thing when half of the god damn world is on antidepressants that are just as addictive and have just as bad, if not worse, side effects, and no one has a problem with that? The only difference in the two classes of drugs (they both fuck with your brain chemistry, just in different ways) is when you quit an antidepressant, you go through "discontinuation syndrome" and when you quit pain killers, you go through "withdrawal". It's the same damn thing just a different name! Schedule the antidepressants, I say. Let's see doctors hand 'em out like candy then.
Sorry, I know we're kind of getting off topic here.
Go spend an hour or two in a pain clinic waiting room where people don't take care of themselves. I'm not talking about hydrocodone or ultram. If you wish to manage pain the best thing you can do is lose weight and do whatever physical adjustment possible to your lifestyle, because once you start taking fentanyl or the like for pain, you are in for a terrible journey, and every aspect of your life will change based on it.
I'm just saying take what you need to, but don't rely on it alone or you are going to be in trouble.
Go spend an hour or two in a pain clinic waiting room where people don't take care of themselves. I'm not talking about hydrocodone or ultram. If you wish to manage pain the best thing you can do is lose weight and do whatever physical adjustment possible to your lifestyle, because once you start taking fentanyl or the like for pain, you are in for a terrible journey, and every aspect of your life will change based on it.
I'm just saying take what you need to, but don't rely on it alone or you are going to be in trouble.
Why are you going to be in trouble and be in for a terrible journey? I still don't know of a single reason why being on "addictive" medication, long term, under a doctor's supervision, to legitimately control pain, is a bad thing. Sure, there are people that can't handle it and struggle against an addiction that has a negative impact on their life. There are also people who start playing video games such as WoW, can't handle it, and play to the exclusion of everything else in their lives. There is an extreme in both groups, and both are the vast minority.
What I'm (finally) getting at here, is that people think being addicted to a medication is bad because of the stigma society has put on "addiction". We are constantly bombarded with information stating that "addiction" is "bad", with absolutely no qualifiers. When someone says "addicted to pain medicine" peoples mind's immediately go to "handjobs for crack" rather than "increasing someone's quality of life". Pain medication was created for a reason, and it does that very well, and helps far far more people in this world than it hurts.
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Were you diagnosed with scoliosis or is that an assumption? There are lots of forms of arthritis that can fuse your spine if you don't seek treatment and control the inflamed discs. Ankylosing Spondylitis for example. DO NOT FUCK WITH YOUR SPINE.
EDIT: I should mention that the combination of these two medications is magical. As in, something special happens when you take them both together and the affect on your body is greatly enhanced over what relief you would normally get when taking the two of them separately. This combination, obviously, is taken under a doctor's direction and supervision. Oh, and don't get addicted to the tramadol. It is addictive, so if you try it, make sure you can use some self control.
If you're on Tramadol it's because you're going to be taking the generic for Ultracet (Ultram). Ultracet is just tramadol and acetaminophen in a single pill, but it is still under exclusive patent.
Be warned, it can be claimed to be non habit forming all they want to, it is addictive. It also reduces respiration and causes euphoria.
I, too have scoliosis - caused by Poland's syndrome. I found exercising helped, specially a rowing machine / weights, as both strengthened the muscles in my back, and helped with posture. My spine spins anti clockwise (if looking down from my head) and bends slightly to the left and then back to the right (when looking at my back). Its a bit weird, but OK.
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What's wrong with being addicted to painkillers if you are taking them for a valid medical reason?
Long term pain relief through narcotics is a sad road to go down and the longer you can delay upping the dose or switching meds, the better off you are. There's nothing wrong with controlling pain using medication, but to use it exclusively when other things may help is a bad idea. Your best bet is to stay active and keep things as minimal as needed with meds.
Narcotic pain relief is great, but it lowers your pain tolerance and slows peristalsis to a crawl. If you think you've been constipated before, wait until you're on a time-release morphine or fentanyl patch.
as far as relieving/minimizing back pain
1) always wear comfortable shoes. avoid shoes like flips-flops with thin soles. if you tend to walk to the outstep (like i do) or instep and the soles wear out faster on one side, don't put off replacing them.
2) try to avoid sitting on the edge of a bed/table/bench or sitting forward in a chair. sit up straight, but try to minimize sitting in something without back support.
3) if you're overweight, lose it asap. you'd be amazed how much of a strain even 10 or 20 extra pounds puts on your skeletal system.
NOTE: I AM NOT RECOMMENDING AND/OR ENDORSING THIS FOR ANYONE ELSE
i relax after a day of work with my good friend mary jane. the song's named comfortably numb for a reason.
Why is it a sad road to go down? We're not talking about someone giving handjobs in a phone booth for oxy, we're talking about prescribed and monitored pain relief under the care of a doctor for a valid medical condition. Why does everyone focus so much on narcotic pain killers as being such a horrible thing when half of the god damn world is on antidepressants that are just as addictive and have just as bad, if not worse, side effects, and no one has a problem with that? The only difference in the two classes of drugs (they both fuck with your brain chemistry, just in different ways) is when you quit an antidepressant, you go through "discontinuation syndrome" and when you quit pain killers, you go through "withdrawal". It's the same damn thing just a different name! Schedule the antidepressants, I say. Let's see doctors hand 'em out like candy then.
Sorry, I know we're kind of getting off topic here.
Go spend an hour or two in a pain clinic waiting room where people don't take care of themselves. I'm not talking about hydrocodone or ultram. If you wish to manage pain the best thing you can do is lose weight and do whatever physical adjustment possible to your lifestyle, because once you start taking fentanyl or the like for pain, you are in for a terrible journey, and every aspect of your life will change based on it.
I'm just saying take what you need to, but don't rely on it alone or you are going to be in trouble.
Why are you going to be in trouble and be in for a terrible journey? I still don't know of a single reason why being on "addictive" medication, long term, under a doctor's supervision, to legitimately control pain, is a bad thing. Sure, there are people that can't handle it and struggle against an addiction that has a negative impact on their life. There are also people who start playing video games such as WoW, can't handle it, and play to the exclusion of everything else in their lives. There is an extreme in both groups, and both are the vast minority.
What I'm (finally) getting at here, is that people think being addicted to a medication is bad because of the stigma society has put on "addiction". We are constantly bombarded with information stating that "addiction" is "bad", with absolutely no qualifiers. When someone says "addicted to pain medicine" peoples mind's immediately go to "handjobs for crack" rather than "increasing someone's quality of life". Pain medication was created for a reason, and it does that very well, and helps far far more people in this world than it hurts.