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possible criminal charges UPDATE
Hotlead Junkie
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Apparentley they think I've been taking and putting over £100 from and back in the till, but this must have been me making mistakes while cashing up. I have made a couple of mistakes on the computer and do note them down, I even called the owner via the phone when I messed up doing something once. To discuss it. Also, they say I have been putting things in people's bags without scanning them, basically giving stuff away for free. They say they have all this on CCTV but I find that there are a few problems with this. First of all
- I DID NOT take or put back any money, nevertheless take over 100 and put it back. If there is a discrepency it was a computer error on my part and the money is still there in the safe/till/on the record.
- It's impossible they have me taking wads of money on CCTV because I simply didn't take any.
- It's possible that I may have made a scanning mistake but I scan every single time I put an item in someone's bag. The only times I don't are either when they have a large amount of the same object, eg, 12 cans of alacahol, so I put hem all in the bag and scan just one after hitting the times 12 function on the till. Other times I may have been too busy and been given the money for a newspaper by one customer while i was serving another customer, so after I serve one customer I'll price up the newspaper the guy took and use the money he gave me to pay for it. Simple as that. I don't ever remember putting something in someone's bag without them paying for it. Hopefully they saw what I just explained on CCTV and didn't notice me scan the single item and multiply it by 12.
If I did accidentally put something in someone's bag and the scan going through, fine, whatever, I'll pay for it, that's an honest mistake. I don't just give away free stuff. I know I'm totally innocent of stealing money but I just hope to god it can be proved. I may be a god-damn simple idiot who can't concentrate or do maths but I'm not a damn thief.
UPDATE/
I went into work this morning and got confronted by the owners of the small corner store I work at. I was told I have been suspended without pay for some serious criminal offence they aren't allowed to talk about until a meeting with the police can be arranged. I am honestly not sure what I've done but there are apprentley witnesses to what I did, but i have a few ideas -
- Miscalculating the cash in the till, possibly seen as stealing. It is sometimes off by a few pence or a pound or two. If this is the case it's either my shoddy maths/concentration whn cashing up or misplacing some money/giving too much change. I can honestly say i haven't conciously taken money or given too much away. I can however admit my concentration and memory are fairly bad but I have not ever malaciously taken and hidden money for my own gain. If I pocketed some without realising I honestly don't remember doing so.
- Swapping out a bag of candy I bought there before my shift for one of a different flacour about an hour later. I honestly assumed this is not a big deal since it was the same brand/bag of candy, just a differne colour bag/flavour/type (swapping jelly beans for cola bottles for example, same price, same brand, all on thr 3 for £1 offer).
- Selling alcahol/cigarettes underage. This is more of a biggie and if I did, I honestly didn't do it conciously, eg, sold knowing the person was underage. I've asked plenty of times to see ID. If this is the case, if I've sold something to someone underage the council can charge the store around £1000 or more and I may have to pay this.
I just need to put this into writing so i can see it and figure out what is going on here since I'm still in shock and am quite zoned out. I'll get a letter to say when this meeting is, but until then all I can do is stay optimistic and hope this is just a big misunderstanding. If worst comes to worst and i end up being charged a huge fine and give a criminal record, im already way too much in debt with my university fees and am deep into my overdraft in the bank. Basically I can possibly spare £100, so I'll probably have to start selling things to pay the fine. Plus I'll have a criminal reconrd. BUT, that is the worst case of course. Well, the worst worst thing would be jail but i seriously don't think that's going to happen.
I'm going to start looking for a new job in the meantime and quit working if I don't get fired and to keep my sanity, just cling onto the idea that this is all a big misunderstanding. I'm writing this here so I don't have to explain this to all my freinds online seperatley, plus, if anyone has any advice I'd appreciate it since I'm not very good at handling complicated matters like this (A reason why I failed university).
Erm, well. Thanks for reading. I'm not looking for sympathy, but maybe a little direction or advice of what I can do in this situation. My 'defence mechanism' for being stressed like this is 'blanking out' so, yeah. That kinda happening now. I'm just glad im taking my anti anxiety medication or I'd brobably be weeping.
And to think I was singing on the way to work today.
EDIT: eugh, sorry for all the spelling errors, it's kinda hard to think straight right now
Apparentley they think I've been taking and putting over £100 from and back in the till, but this must have been me making mistakes while cashing up. I have made a couple of mistakes on the computer and do note them down, I even called the owner via the phone when I messed up doing something once. To discuss it. Also, they say I have been putting things in people's bags without scanning them, basically giving stuff away for free. They say they have all this on CCTV but I find that there are a few problems with this. First of all
- I DID NOT take or put back any money, nevertheless take over 100 and put it back. If there is a discrepency it was a computer error on my part and the money is still there in the safe/till/on the record.
- It's impossible they have me taking wads of money on CCTV because I simply didn't take any.
- It's possible that I may have made a scanning mistake but I scan every single time I put an item in someone's bag. The only times I don't are either when they have a large amount of the same object, eg, 12 cans of alacahol, so I put hem all in the bag and scan just one after hitting the times 12 function on the till. Other times I may have been too busy and been given the money for a newspaper by one customer while i was serving another customer, so after I serve one customer I'll price up the newspaper the guy took and use the money he gave me to pay for it. Simple as that. I don't ever remember putting something in someone's bag without them paying for it. Hopefully they saw what I just explained on CCTV and didn't notice me scan the single item and multiply it by 12.
If I did accidentally put something in someone's bag and the scan going through, fine, whatever, I'll pay for it, that's an honest mistake. I don't just give away free stuff. I know I'm totally innocent of stealing money but I just hope to god it can be proved. I may be a god-damn simple idiot who can't concentrate or do maths but I'm not a damn thief.
UPDATE/
I went into work this morning and got confronted by the owners of the small corner store I work at. I was told I have been suspended without pay for some serious criminal offence they aren't allowed to talk about until a meeting with the police can be arranged. I am honestly not sure what I've done but there are apprentley witnesses to what I did, but i have a few ideas -
- Miscalculating the cash in the till, possibly seen as stealing. It is sometimes off by a few pence or a pound or two. If this is the case it's either my shoddy maths/concentration whn cashing up or misplacing some money/giving too much change. I can honestly say i haven't conciously taken money or given too much away. I can however admit my concentration and memory are fairly bad but I have not ever malaciously taken and hidden money for my own gain. If I pocketed some without realising I honestly don't remember doing so.
- Swapping out a bag of candy I bought there before my shift for one of a different flacour about an hour later. I honestly assumed this is not a big deal since it was the same brand/bag of candy, just a differne colour bag/flavour/type (swapping jelly beans for cola bottles for example, same price, same brand, all on thr 3 for £1 offer).
- Selling alcahol/cigarettes underage. This is more of a biggie and if I did, I honestly didn't do it conciously, eg, sold knowing the person was underage. I've asked plenty of times to see ID. If this is the case, if I've sold something to someone underage the council can charge the store around £1000 or more and I may have to pay this.
I just need to put this into writing so i can see it and figure out what is going on here since I'm still in shock and am quite zoned out. I'll get a letter to say when this meeting is, but until then all I can do is stay optimistic and hope this is just a big misunderstanding. If worst comes to worst and i end up being charged a huge fine and give a criminal record, im already way too much in debt with my university fees and am deep into my overdraft in the bank. Basically I can possibly spare £100, so I'll probably have to start selling things to pay the fine. Plus I'll have a criminal reconrd. BUT, that is the worst case of course. Well, the worst worst thing would be jail but i seriously don't think that's going to happen.
I'm going to start looking for a new job in the meantime and quit working if I don't get fired and to keep my sanity, just cling onto the idea that this is all a big misunderstanding. I'm writing this here so I don't have to explain this to all my freinds online seperatley, plus, if anyone has any advice I'd appreciate it since I'm not very good at handling complicated matters like this (A reason why I failed university).
Erm, well. Thanks for reading. I'm not looking for sympathy, but maybe a little direction or advice of what I can do in this situation. My 'defence mechanism' for being stressed like this is 'blanking out' so, yeah. That kinda happening now. I'm just glad im taking my anti anxiety medication or I'd brobably be weeping.
And to think I was singing on the way to work today.
EDIT: eugh, sorry for all the spelling errors, it's kinda hard to think straight right now
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I think you'd remember if you were helping yourself to cash!
What I mean is I sometimes put a pen or a pair of scissors in my pocket when I'm busy/so the customers don't make off with them. I'm just saying I may have, on impulse, pocketed whatever was in my hand when I'm busy and in this case it may have been money. I've not found any excess money lyining my pockets though though.
That is actually reassuring, thanks. Hopefully it's a mistake on their part but either way I'm out of a job. I'm quitting either way.
If you don't remember this happening and they don't have some sort of video evidence, this only helps them get you in trouble. Don't lie, but if you don't remember taking anything, that's the truth - you don't need to do authority's dirty work for them because you're trying to resolve the psychic stress of the situation by agreeing with them.
I don't know how the UK handles right to counsel, but probably the best advice is to talk to a lawyer and keep your mouth shut - a criminal conviction on your record is going to make your life more difficult economically beyond the scope of the (somewhat exhorbitant) fine you might have to pay.
If you don't remember doing anything bad, don't get freakedo ut, because odds are you didn't, or if you did, it's very minor. Depending on what they say the issue is, it could be the owner blaming something they did on you.
Well, you should ask to see ID every time unless the person is clearly in their 40's. My brother has looked 21 since he was 16.
(It was kind of a dick move on the part of the police as the kid was 17 and already starting to go bald so he looked like he was in his mid to late 30s but it worked on a lot of people until someone fought it in court and the judge threw it out and told the police to stop using him)
This doesn't make any sense to me. If it was carding they usually bust you right away. For any form of stealing all they'd have to do is call the cops and have you arrested. I don't know what these guys are doing but to be honest I'd call them and tell them that you quit effective immediately, that until they tell you why you have been suspended not to contact you and that all future contact is to be done in writing.
I worked at a convenience store where the tills were coming up several hundred dollars short and this is similar to the tactic they used to catch the person and got some other peripheral crimes in the act.
do they owe you for any past work? does tomorrow happen to be your bi-weekly payday?
The day before I came in was my payday, I even asked 'can I at least take my pay?' after they told me about this suspension and they said they can't.
Either way, I found the cause, and thanks, I will be getting a solicitor involved in this
Actually, they do owe you your pay. That's not something they can withhold.
I'm going to refuse to talk to them and wait for this letter. When I get said letter, I'll take it to a solicitor and refuse to speak to the owners without said solicitor present.
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Don't hold your breath for that letter. Get a lawyer and have him draft one demanding your payment and what not.
Yes. They are accusing you of being a criminal. It's not good to be passive in these circumstances. Get representation and aggressively defend your innocence.
The things people will do...
If this is the case, I feel for you, Hotlead. I had a job and the owner refused to give me my paycheck after I waited patiently for every single customer in the building to be served, telling me that I was interrupting business and that I had to come back.
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Don't give them evidence. If you have any possible means (family, friends, etc...) tell them the situation and get an attorney, and refuse to answer any questions or speak/meet with them at all without your attorney present.
Now, one had to get three write-ups on the same thing, barring of course serious offenses, before even being let go. Turns out that Blockbuster management is so fucked up that had I not signed it (as my boss just slid it my way and said sign this and everything's fine), it would have almost literally discovered and never put on any record.
Don't sign anything they send your way, and since you're already suspended without pay, I'd probably just refuse signing jack shit unless it was a sincere and devout apology from them.
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The important thing is that you get your pay.
Wander down there and ask for it again. If they refuse inform that they are legally obligated to pay you. If you can prove theft then they can legally come at your for money owing but until then they are required to pay you.
Also check up on your countries legal standing for suspension. They should only be able to suspend you for so long until they have to fire you or reinstate you.
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