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AvicusAvicus Registered User regular
edited September 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
Hi guys,

I have got a bit of spare time now that I am living with my parents again so I have decided to start doing a martial art. I am not sure what I wish to do though.

I am looking at doing a traditional Japanese art but there are so many with so many different styles within schools.

I am looking at being in this for the long haul so I want something that is practical but if I ever wanted to I could compete.

Also what is the difference between -do and jutsu. Which one do I want to do?

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    You're going to get a lot of different answers asking that broadly.

    When you say compete do you mean like, something that will have you doing something close to real fighting (like, MMA-esque), or something that is more formalized?

    What do you mean by something that is "practical?"

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  • AvicusAvicus Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    by practical I mean something that could be used in self defense.

    I am looking for a tradition formal Japanese martial art but I am not sure what style and then what ryu within the style.

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  • EskimoDaveEskimoDave Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Krav Maga is practical. Sambo is as well.

    oh, you want traditional Japanese. well, they aren't too practical.

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  • TinuzTinuz Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Avicus wrote: »
    by practical I mean something that could be used in self defense.

    I am looking for a tradition formal Japanese martial art but I am not sure what style and then what ryu within the style.

    I am no martial artist, but the general sentiment I hear seems to be that the answer to that one is 'none'.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Generally speaking traditionalism and actual effectiveness do not go hand in hand.

    My somewhat uninformed guess would be that jujutsu would be your best bet, but it might be hard to find a truly traditional school, given how much modern blending has taken place with other arts. Ninjutsu is also supposed to be pretty awesome (have a good friend who is pretty far into it), but finding a legit school is nigh impossible in the continental U.S.

    edit: many of the "traditional for-use-in-war" arts also incorporate weapons fairly heavily, which may or may not be what you want

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  • NamrokNamrok Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    The type of martial art matters, but so does the teacher you find. I learn tae kwon do. Generally this is not considered a very practical art. The guy I learn from however used to teach to the south korean army. He heavily emphasizes body conditioning, knees, elbows, neck strikes, a few joint locks, etc. It's not just kick somebody in the stomach as fast as possible olympic style tae kwon do.

    At the same time, it's entirely possible to take up what is considered a battle ready martial art, krav maga, muay thai, and find out your teacher is a complete puss, and you aren't learning anything practical.

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  • saggiosaggio Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    You're not going to find yourself any koryu in Australia, I'm afraid.

    Most of the "traditional" arts that you are talking about, like judo, karate, aikido, etc. are all around 100-120 years old, and date from after Meiji restoration. The great majority of them have been popularized because they aren't part of the koryu tradition, and as such are generally used in a sporting context (kendo, judo, etc) or used for self betterment/conditioning (aikido).

    There's nothing wrong with these, at all. They can be used for self defense, absolutely - perhaps not in the MMA ring, but if some guy tries to mug you? Unless he's a master in defendo or something, any of the modern Japanese martial arts will be able to help you out.

    If you are interested in simply fucking people up, then you are probably going to have to look at something like Krav Maga, or Defendo, or any of the myriad of MMA combinations (BJJ + Kickboxing, for instance). But I don't think that is completely necessary.

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  • PracticalProblemSolverPracticalProblemSolver Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Avicus wrote: »
    Hi guys,

    I have got a bit of spare time now that I am living with my parents again so I have decided to start doing a martial art. I am not sure what I wish to do though.

    I am looking at doing a traditional Japanese art but there are so many with so many different styles within schools.

    I am looking at being in this for the long haul so I want something that is practical but if I ever wanted to I could compete.

    Also what is the difference between -do and jutsu. Which one do I want to do?

    do means 'way' and as such will be more of a lifestyle thing, like aikido, jutsu means 'skill.'

    My advice to you is to find the best martial artist you can locally and train with them, regardless of style. You don't want to learn bad habits from a mediocre instructor, trust me. Your time would be better spent just working out.

    If you want to compete you need to find one of the sporting martial arts, there will probably be some clubs at your local college.

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  • MayGodHaveMercyMayGodHaveMercy Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Avicus wrote: »
    Hi guys,

    I have got a bit of spare time now that I am living with my parents again so I have decided to start doing a martial art. I am not sure what I wish to do though.

    I am looking at doing a traditional Japanese art but there are so many with so many different styles within schools.

    I am looking at being in this for the long haul so I want something that is practical but if I ever wanted to I could compete.

    Also what is the difference between -do and jutsu. Which one do I want to do?

    Muay Thai, Boxing, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Not regular Jiu Jitsu. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Avicus wrote: »
    Hi guys,

    I have got a bit of spare time now that I am living with my parents again so I have decided to start doing a martial art. I am not sure what I wish to do though.

    I am looking at doing a traditional Japanese art but there are so many with so many different styles within schools.

    I am looking at being in this for the long haul so I want something that is practical but if I ever wanted to I could compete.

    Also what is the difference between -do and jutsu. Which one do I want to do?

    do means 'way' and as such will be more of a lifestyle thing, like aikido, jutsu means 'skill.'

    My advice to you is to find the best martial artist you can locally and train with them, regardless of style. You don't want to learn bad habits from a mediocre instructor, trust me. Your time would be better spent just working out.

    If you want to compete you need to find one of the sporting martial arts, there will probably be some clubs at your local college.

    I have a black belt in Karate and I haven't actually practiced in years. I have however gone on to do a lot of other different physical performance styles. Outside of learning how to defend yourself the most helpful thing I've learned is kinesthetics. The better understanding you have of how your body moves and how to control it, the easier everything else is going to be. I've even cross trained in completely different styles fairly successfully because of this.

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  • NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Avicus wrote: »
    Hi guys,

    I have got a bit of spare time now that I am living with my parents again so I have decided to start doing a martial art. I am not sure what I wish to do though.

    I am looking at doing a traditional Japanese art but there are so many with so many different styles within schools.

    I am looking at being in this for the long haul so I want something that is practical but if I ever wanted to I could compete.

    Also what is the difference between -do and jutsu. Which one do I want to do?

    do means 'way' and as such will be more of a lifestyle thing, like aikido, jutsu means 'skill.'

    My advice to you is to find the best martial artist you can locally and train with them, regardless of style. You don't want to learn bad habits from a mediocre instructor, trust me. Your time would be better spent just working out.

    If you want to compete you need to find one of the sporting martial arts, there will probably be some clubs at your local college.

    I have a black belt in Karate and I haven't actually practiced in years. I have however gone on to do a lot of other different physical performance styles. Outside of learning how to defend yourself the most helpful thing I've learned is kinesthetics. The better understanding you have of how your body moves and how to control it, the easier everything else is going to be. I've even cross trained in completely different styles fairly successfully because of this.

    It's definitely more about the instructor than the style. My current teacher is awesome. He has Tea Kwan Do as a base but he also teaches MMA (and is good friends with a lot of the local "bush league" here in Northern Cali) and works in some capacity with one of the Olympic teams.

    Don't get it in your head that one style is somehow better than another.

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  • Teslan26Teslan26 Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Last I looked most places will do an hours free taster session. Go around a variety of places, try out the instructors, see what feels right.

    In truth, the 'practical' aspect of any martial art depends who you fight, what they are capable of, and your own abilities. Most of them will spend a lot of time reinforcing that not fighting is always preferable, avoidence is best. Take that to heart. Else the guy you decide to take on might turn out to have been trained rather well in some form and beat the crap out of you.

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Place at the tableRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I don't know what your options are in Brisbane

    I've given answers to this question at length before. so I'll just link them.

    What you're probably looking for is Judo.

    a martial art should either teach you a good mixture of the three basic ranges - standing (boxing) clinching (hugging) and ground (wrestling) OR teach you to be a very good specialist in one.

    There should be real, intense practice, routinely. This means whatever the school teaches, you do it briskly, with hard contact, until you're tired. This is VERY important for knowing what you can and can't do with what you're learning. This is super important - probably the most important thing.

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