Wren, before we continue this conversation, consider for a moment the fact that you are Wren. Now that you've done that, are you still sure that you're right?
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edited June 2009
No Wren, he's right.
I was air assault. 101st. Participated in combat drills against battalions of the 82nd Airborne. With an air assault unit, the birds can close in on a tight LZ in a short formations, dispense troops in a fast and orderly manner, and be gone in under two minutes.
With an airborne drop, units land, with severe risk of injury due to the speeds at which they hit the ground (the chutes they use, they drop fast) and in a very wide dispersion. They spend a significant amount of time recovering the chutes, rescuing troopers who landed poorly or were injured on landing, securing gear, and reforming into proper units. This takes hours.
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edited June 2009
Plus, in an air assault unit, your formation of blackhawks can fly very low to terrain, under radar, insert, deploy troops, spin around and return quickly to pick up more troops.
Can't do that with C-130's. Why do you think we haven't done airborne drops into warzones in decades except for very small special operations incursions?
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edited June 2009
These are the guys that my unit worked with a lot during training at Ft. Campbell and flew us to the fight in Afghanistan. They were also the unit that inserted several SF teams into occupied Kuwait and Iraq back in Gulf War I.
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edited June 2009
1/60th SOAR are the guys you go to when you want a helicopter to do things you never thought you'd want a chopper to do.
They don't operate Apaches or Cobras or anything that would normally be considered a combat helicopter but they will either fuck your shit up themselves or they will place some hard, stone-balled bastards at your back door to do the job themselves.
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I like blackhawks because you can have 4 engineers sitting in the passenger seats repairing the thing with their wrenches and you're basically invincible as you camp the enemies spawn point
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edited June 2009
I was actually assigned to the 2/187th INF, 101st before they received their first squadron of Apache attack birds. Watching them fly in formation over the unit fields was something I'll never forget.
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edited June 2009
So I was trying to watch Band of Brothers for the second time, and I got halfway through Carentan before I realized that I was cutting into my right palm with my fingernails. No more war films for me for a while. Should go finish cutting the grass.
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Nno, the 101st is still around. My friend is in the 101st Airborne and just finished Ranger School. They're sending him and his squad to Afghanistan.
Weaver, when were you there? My buddy was 1/187 INF - I don't know if he's still with them now or how that goes, though, since my mailing address for him needs updating.
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I like blackhawks because you can have 4 engineers sitting in the passenger seats repairing the thing with their wrenches and you're basically invincible as you camp the enemies spawn point
Didn't they patch that out? Or was that just capping points with them that they really badly attempted to patch out?
Nno, the 101st is still around. My friend is in the 101st Airborne and just finished Ranger School. They're sending him and his squad to Afghanistan.
Weaver, when were you there? My buddy was 1/187 INF - I don't know if he's still with them now or how that goes, though, since my mailing address for him needs updating.
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I was air assault. 101st. Participated in combat drills against battalions of the 82nd Airborne. With an air assault unit, the birds can close in on a tight LZ in a short formations, dispense troops in a fast and orderly manner, and be gone in under two minutes.
With an airborne drop, units land, with severe risk of injury due to the speeds at which they hit the ground (the chutes they use, they drop fast) and in a very wide dispersion. They spend a significant amount of time recovering the chutes, rescuing troopers who landed poorly or were injured on landing, securing gear, and reforming into proper units. This takes hours.
Can't do that with C-130's. Why do you think we haven't done airborne drops into warzones in decades except for very small special operations incursions?
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They don't operate Apaches or Cobras or anything that would normally be considered a combat helicopter but they will either fuck your shit up themselves or they will place some hard, stone-balled bastards at your back door to do the job themselves.
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Nno, the 101st is still around. My friend is in the 101st Airborne and just finished Ranger School. They're sending him and his squad to Afghanistan.
Weaver, when were you there? My buddy was 1/187 INF - I don't know if he's still with them now or how that goes, though, since my mailing address for him needs updating.
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Didn't they patch that out? Or was that just capping points with them that they really badly attempted to patch out?
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Speed of a plane, versatility of a transport chopper.
I think I'm late to this discussion.
Like actually transport people to the LZ