The point is that straight edgers try to force their views on everyone else, it's part of being straight edge. Plus they're usually really violent and don't even have meth or alcohol as an excuse for it.
where they're basically straight edge, except they also don't consume caffeine or smoke tobacco
probably also some other shit but that's all I remember
Lasted all of about six weeks too
The hardline philosophy forbids its adherents from smoking or chewing any form of tobacco, drinking alcoholic beverages, and using illicit drugs or modern medicines. Hardliners (as they were called) were expected to follow a strict dietary regimen based on the above-mentioned pillars of respect for innocent life and the natural order. Hardliners ate only foods that were vegan and relatively natural (e.g. brown rice over white, evaporated cane juice over white sugar, organic produce over conventional, natural oils over hydrogenated). Human rights issues were also factored into the movement's food politics, and followers were urged to shun third-world cash crops such as coffee, chocolate, sugar, and most tropical fruits. Hardliners included caffeine in their stance on mind-altering drugs so the first two items were generally abstained from, but consumption of the last two (and especially the final) was often given more leeway.
In keeping with its Abrahamic view of the natural order, the sexual politics of the hardline movement were very conservative. Sex was not allowed except for the reason of procreation, homosexuality was seen as anathema, pornography was abjured, artificial contraception was avoided, and abortion was militantly opposed. Although the official hardline stance on sex was that its natural purpose was purely procreative, many hardliners justified recreational sex within the context of committed relationships as potentially procreative by opting not to use artificial contraceptives. Hardline was always highly syncretic (over time absorbing influences from Islam and a host of other schools of thought), and initially attempted to give its obviously Biblical/Islamic sexual morals added credibility by claiming a Taoist foundation for them. This appeal to the orientation of the punk and hardcore scenes met with little success, and the topics of abortion and homosexuality were always sources of tension between hardliners and their subcultural cousins.
yeah if you're a recovering alcoholic that's drinking again you're just...an alcoholic...still...right?
My understanding of it (from friends who are recovering alcoholics) is that you are no longer in recovery because you are once again drunk all the damn time.
yeah if you're a recovering alcoholic that's drinking again you're just...an alcoholic...still...right?
My understanding of it (from friends who are recovering alcoholics) is that you are no longer in recovery because you are once again drunk all the damn time.
Makes sense.
Sigh, I wish I were drunk all the time.
I don't really, it'd be awfully expensive.
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FalloutGIRL'S DAYWAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered Userregular
edited August 2009
straight edge doesn't mean you don't do drugs or drink or smoke or anything like that
straight edge means you are part of a subculture that actively and violently opposes people who do those things
straight edgers will punch a cigarette out of your mouth at a show if they see you light up
hahahaha fuck they must be the most boring people in existence
Why? Because they have some beliefs that are wildly unpopular? Yeah, because they have what look like weird beliefs about sex and drugs, they must be boring. What would make you think that? If anything, they're likely much more interesting, as they clearly don't need the help of any of that stuff to have a good time. People who abstain from those things are generally more interesting, because they generally achieve the same goal (be entertained) with a smaller set of tools.
yeah if you're a recovering alcoholic that's drinking again you're just...an alcoholic...still...right?
My understanding of it (from friends who are recovering alcoholics) is that you are no longer in recovery because you are once again drunk all the damn time.
Makes sense.
Sigh, I wish I were drunk all the time.
I don't really, it'd be awfully expensive.
It also doesn't help that you'd probably be unable to maintain your income.
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Tossrocktoo weird to livetoo rare to dieRegistered Userregular
edited August 2009
Easy solution, be an attractive woman and hang out in bars
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hahahaha fuck they must be the most boring people in existence
Why? Because they have some beliefs that are wildly unpopular? Yeah, because they have what look like weird beliefs about sex and drugs, they must be boring. What would make you think that? If anything, they're likely much more interesting, as they clearly don't need the help of any of that stuff to have a good time. People who abstain from those things are generally more interesting, because they generally achieve the same goal (be entertained) with a smaller set of tools.
heh yeah someone who has a good time by sitting still and doing absolutely nothing at all must be a blast
yeah if you're a recovering alcoholic that's drinking again you're just...an alcoholic...still...right?
My understanding of it (from friends who are recovering alcoholics) is that you are no longer in recovery because you are once again drunk all the damn time.
Makes sense.
Sigh, I wish I were drunk all the time.
I don't really, it'd be awfully expensive.
It also doesn't help that you'd probably be unable to maintain your income.
Good thing I'd be too drunk to care
oh my god
that's it isn't it
THAT'S the mind-frame!
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hahahaha fuck they must be the most boring people in existence
Why? Because they have some beliefs that are wildly unpopular? Yeah, because they have what look like weird beliefs about sex and drugs, they must be boring. What would make you think that? If anything, they're likely much more interesting, as they clearly don't need the help of any of that stuff to have a good time. People who abstain from those things are generally more interesting, because they generally achieve the same goal (be entertained) with a smaller set of tools.
defender have you ever met any of these people?
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Tossrocktoo weird to livetoo rare to dieRegistered Userregular
edited August 2009
Defender is one of those people. He holds never having been drunk as a note of personal pride.
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Plus, he only does it in the missionary position, under the covers, with the lights out, for the purposes of reproduction, Final Destination, Fox only
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hahahaha fuck they must be the most boring people in existence
Why? Because they have some beliefs that are wildly unpopular? Yeah, because they have what look like weird beliefs about sex and drugs, they must be boring. What would make you think that? If anything, they're likely much more interesting, as they clearly don't need the help of any of that stuff to have a good time. People who abstain from those things are generally more interesting, because they generally achieve the same goal (be entertained) with a smaller set of tools.
defender have you ever met any of these people?
defender operates on a set of logical principles, not things like, you know, experience or social standards
Can't imagine someone would be sociable when they're intolerant of others' vices. How many social events don't include something that a straight edge motherfucker wouldn't take offense to?
hahahaha fuck they must be the most boring people in existence
Why? Because they have some beliefs that are wildly unpopular? Yeah, because they have what look like weird beliefs about sex and drugs, they must be boring. What would make you think that? If anything, they're likely much more interesting, as they clearly don't need the help of any of that stuff to have a good time. People who abstain from those things are generally more interesting, because they generally achieve the same goal (be entertained) with a smaller set of tools.
oh defender
or maybe they're so incredibly boring that they need to group together with a bunch of equally boring people to justify their awful boringness. Also the fact that they actively oppose other people doing things that are generally regarded as being fun.
Can't imagine someone would be sociable when they're intolerant of others' vices. How many social events don't include something that a straight edge motherfucker wouldn't take offense to?
Ice cream social unless you're a hardliner but you aren't because those people all died of easily curable diseases
hahahaha fuck they must be the most boring people in existence
Why? Because they have some beliefs that are wildly unpopular? Yeah, because they have what look like weird beliefs about sex and drugs, they must be boring. What would make you think that? If anything, they're likely much more interesting, as they clearly don't need the help of any of that stuff to have a good time. People who abstain from those things are generally more interesting, because they generally achieve the same goal (be entertained) with a smaller set of tools.
oh defender
or maybe they're so incredibly boring that they need to group together with a bunch of equally boring people to justify their awful boringness. Also the fact that they actively oppose other people doing things that are generally regarded as being fun.
I could say the exact same thing with the groups reversed. Except that one group can entertain themselves without sex and drugs, which is much harder.
hahahaha fuck they must be the most boring people in existence
Why? Because they have some beliefs that are wildly unpopular? Yeah, because they have what look like weird beliefs about sex and drugs, they must be boring. What would make you think that? If anything, they're likely much more interesting, as they clearly don't need the help of any of that stuff to have a good time. People who abstain from those things are generally more interesting, because they generally achieve the same goal (be entertained) with a smaller set of tools.
oh defender
or maybe they're so incredibly boring that they need to group together with a bunch of equally boring people to justify their awful boringness. Also the fact that they actively oppose other people doing things that are generally regarded as being fun.
I could say the exact same thing with the groups reversed. Except that one group can entertain themselves without sex and drugs, which is much harder.
Yo there are lots of people that can do it without being straight edge
Straight edgers are the ones who are super smug and also violent about it though
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I don't have a problem with alcoholics except the ones that drink.
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Funny thing that's my cousin right there
Well, recovering alcoholics would be the ones who don't drink, if that's how you meant it.
Also, I bet that kid's jaw is broken from the impact of all that retard strength.
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hardline or something like that
where they're basically straight edge, except they also don't consume caffeine or smoke tobacco
probably also some other shit but that's all I remember
Lasted all of about six weeks too
what next
no sugar?
no artificial colours or preservatives?
nothing too exciting to promote production of adrenalin?
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My understanding of it (from friends who are recovering alcoholics) is that you are no longer in recovery because you are once again drunk all the damn time.
Makes sense.
Sigh, I wish I were drunk all the time.
I don't really, it'd be awfully expensive.
straight edge means you are part of a subculture that actively and violently opposes people who do those things
straight edgers will punch a cigarette out of your mouth at a show if they see you light up
I think sometimes those people call themselves "straight edge"
There's some confusion over the term
Why? Because they have some beliefs that are wildly unpopular? Yeah, because they have what look like weird beliefs about sex and drugs, they must be boring. What would make you think that? If anything, they're likely much more interesting, as they clearly don't need the help of any of that stuff to have a good time. People who abstain from those things are generally more interesting, because they generally achieve the same goal (be entertained) with a smaller set of tools.
It also doesn't help that you'd probably be unable to maintain your income.
heh yeah someone who has a good time by sitting still and doing absolutely nothing at all must be a blast
Good thing I'd be too drunk to care
oh my god
that's it isn't it
THAT'S the mind-frame!
defender have you ever met any of these people?
defender operates on a set of logical principles, not things like, you know, experience or social standards
oh defender
or maybe they're so incredibly boring that they need to group together with a bunch of equally boring people to justify their awful boringness. Also the fact that they actively oppose other people doing things that are generally regarded as being fun.
no, this is an integral part of being straight edge:
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Ice cream social unless you're a hardliner but you aren't because those people all died of easily curable diseases
I could say the exact same thing with the groups reversed. Except that one group can entertain themselves without sex and drugs, which is much harder.
Yo there are lots of people that can do it without being straight edge
Straight edgers are the ones who are super smug and also violent about it though
Thus they suck
i am the funnest
What do those last two things mean?