Also, put me in first place. First place is going to die no matter what anyway. Might as well put someone with only a medium amount of votes in there and save the heavy hitters for second, third, and fourth.
Also, put me in first place. First place is going to die no matter what anyway. Might as well put someone with only a medium amount of votes in there and save the heavy hitters for second, third, and fourth.
Yeah, putting votes (both red and blue) on anyone who is 6th (17 points) or worse might just be a waste. If there's any mafia in the top five, then they will probably already carry enough points to not worry about not taking 1st place against those that fall below them in the rankings. I still think the best plan of action is to focus our votes on the top five in some fashion. That means Gandalf should probably change his vote away from Tiphareth - he might be too far behind to be in contention.
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!Kime
How did you people only manage to kill one dude yesterday
Yeah, putting votes (both red and blue) on anyone who is 6th (17 points) or worse might just be a waste. If there's any mafia in the top five, then they will probably already carry enough points to not worry about not taking 1st place against those that fall below them in the rankings. I still think the best plan of action is to focus our votes on the top five in some fashion. That means Gandalf should probably change his vote away from Tiphareth - he might be too far behind to be in contention.
Like I said, TWD and to a lesser extent Shalmelo and Kime have enough points to win from Second or Third Place, regardless of whoever takes first. Putting them in first place only makes them easier targets for blue shells and reduces the number of people standing between the mafia and first place. By putting someone like Tiphareth in 1st, we neutralize the Blue Shell and both increase the number of players the mafia has to take out to reach first while still forcing mafia who are lucky enough to have our support to contend with TWD.
Let me put it like this
1st Place in Race (Tiph)
2nd Place in Race (Kime)
3rd Place in Race (Shalmelo)
4th Place in Race (TWD)
or
1st Place in Race (Kime)
2nd Place in Race (Shalmelo)
3rd Place in Race (TWD)
In scenario two, putting Shalmelo within on vote of Kime allows you to hit them with Blue Shells. Then you hit TWD with a Red Shell or Bomb and he's gone, allowing a Mafia to take the lead.
In scenario one, the Blue Shell only takes out Tiphareth and, at best, Shalmelo or Kime. After that you still need two kill items for the survivor in the top three and TWD.
Because you put Tiphareth in first, you neutralize the Blue Shell by ensuring it can only hit an unimportant player and push a player with more points into 1st (2nd) (3rd) while also giving the Mafia one more person to handle.
Beyond that, there's the stated risk of Blue Sparks killing the person in first.
That's not to say we need Tiph in there, of course. We just need to make sure that the people with the highest number of points aren't in first. Definitely don't put TWD in there. Also, definitely try to control the top four rather than just the top three or, worse yet, the top two.
Also, put me in first place. First place is going to die no matter what anyway. Might as well put someone with only a medium amount of votes in there and save the heavy hitters for second, third, and fourth.
sigh....
no....
Dunadan, you're abrasive like steel wool on the side of my face. I hate you like Bruce Wayne hates crime.
Unless you just mean I shouldn't be put in first, in which case I agree. I'd rather put someone with 17-19 points there.
I have to work again tomorrow, so I'm going to go ahead and vote in case of disaster.
Gut-check at the moment says not to trust kime.
And Robos is making sense, mostly. Not sure about any of the specific choices, except for the fact that Tiphareth seems fairly trustworthy, so I like him for 2nd or 3rd.
Th-th-th-this is the first time someone called me trustworthy. I'm so happy I cou- I cou- I could cry.
Also, I fully approve of any plan putting me in the lead. Even if I die, I would have been first.
I've never even noticed you before this game, and even then not until the latter part of it, so I'm having trouble remembering your name. If it helps, you can call me Rubbles.
Actually, Tiphareth belongs in the number one spot more than MrBlarney. The dude with the lowest number of votes belongs there, and if 17 is the lowest of all the people we're voting for then obviously hee needs to be in the number one spot.
2nd+3rd place should go to Kime, Shalmelo, eecc or MrBlarney. We need to decide whom to trust among them.
And of course 4th goes to Funky.
Finally shalmelo because Dunadan's judgment is generally alright (and yet he voted for eecc, who has less votes) and I said I wouldn't red vote kime.
Also, put me in first place. First place is going to die no matter what anyway. Might as well put someone with only a medium amount of votes in there and save the heavy hitters for second, third, and fourth.
sigh....
no....
Dunadan, you're abrasive like steel wool on the side of my face. I hate you like Bruce Wayne hates crime.
Unless you just mean I shouldn't be put in first, in which case I agree. I'd rather put someone with 17-19 points there.
what you want is for someone with no points to come in first with FWD in second and everyone else in last. anyone in last should drift so that those who use items (mafia) end up behind them.
so put daius in first to suck up some blue shells
put FWD behind him with a 4 vote deficit and NOONE ELSE GETS ANY VOTES.
I don't think shalmelo is evil but eecc almost certainly is and is in a position to jump ahead if he can eliminate the people in front of him.
Wouldn't it just take a Blue Shell and a Red Shell, Two Red Shells, or a Blue Shell/Red Shell and a Bob-Bomb from someone with 3 votes from the Mafia to take out both Daius and FWD? Hell, if the Blue Spark thing takes out Daius, you only need 1 item to take out FWD.
Wouldn't it just take a Blue Shell and a Red Shell, Two Red Shells, or a Blue Shell/Red Shell and a Bob-Bomb from someone with 3 votes from the Mafia to take out both Daius and FWD? Hell, if the Blue Spark thing takes out Daius, you only need 1 item to take out FWD.
Wouldn't it just take a Blue Shell and a Red Shell, Two Red Shells, or a Blue Shell/Red Shell and a Bob-Bomb from someone with 3 votes from the Mafia to take out both Daius and FWD? Hell, if the Blue Spark thing takes out Daius, you only need 1 item to take out FWD.
Am I missing something in your plan?
theres only 3 left assuming normal balance.
and there are ways to block red shells.
Do we know that Daius or FWD have a way to block Red Shells?
Anyway, I did forget that you can't vote for yourself, so assuming we can get the village to go along with a plan the Mafia can only put two votes into their candidate of choice.
Naw, it's not a grudge thing shal. I only picked you because Duna said you were evil and, if you are, you're a bigger threat than eecc. Now that duna's taken it back, I have to think for myself and shit.
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Hmm. I'm starting to come around somewhat on Robos A Go Go's plan. It's not a foolproof plan, but then what is in this game? But I see what you're trying to do with the Blue Shell thing, making a 'bait' target. I kind of think the 4th place vote-earner should have more than one vote, if we set one up, so give them more power against drifters - drifters would drive down FunkyWaltDogg in your scenario. It's safer to go with only three people with blue spark votes, but that'd also require more trust in the ones that are voted for.
I'll go with your plan for now, however. !blue spark Tiphareth.
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Why is Daius better? If first place doesn't have enough points to actually win, then the mafia can just take out FWD and then put their highest ranking member in second. They'd lose the race, but still win the game.
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You are gonna post these after the game, right?
Naturally.
FYI, my brother will be the one going over these as a neutral third party, he doesn't know anyone and doesn't know who is or isn't mafia.
Someone should make a Phalla-Phalla where all the roles are Phalla players and the really annoying ones have special powers linked to their personalities.
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If we lose, it's everyone's fault but mine.
Also, put me in first place. First place is going to die no matter what anyway. Might as well put someone with only a medium amount of votes in there and save the heavy hitters for second, third, and fourth.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
sigh....
no....
How did you people only manage to kill one dude yesterday
All terrible
Like I said, TWD and to a lesser extent Shalmelo and Kime have enough points to win from Second or Third Place, regardless of whoever takes first. Putting them in first place only makes them easier targets for blue shells and reduces the number of people standing between the mafia and first place. By putting someone like Tiphareth in 1st, we neutralize the Blue Shell and both increase the number of players the mafia has to take out to reach first while still forcing mafia who are lucky enough to have our support to contend with TWD.
Let me put it like this
1st Place in Race (Tiph)
2nd Place in Race (Kime)
3rd Place in Race (Shalmelo)
4th Place in Race (TWD)
or
1st Place in Race (Kime)
2nd Place in Race (Shalmelo)
3rd Place in Race (TWD)
In scenario two, putting Shalmelo within on vote of Kime allows you to hit them with Blue Shells. Then you hit TWD with a Red Shell or Bomb and he's gone, allowing a Mafia to take the lead.
In scenario one, the Blue Shell only takes out Tiphareth and, at best, Shalmelo or Kime. After that you still need two kill items for the survivor in the top three and TWD.
Because you put Tiphareth in first, you neutralize the Blue Shell by ensuring it can only hit an unimportant player and push a player with more points into 1st (2nd) (3rd) while also giving the Mafia one more person to handle.
Beyond that, there's the stated risk of Blue Sparks killing the person in first.
That's not to say we need Tiph in there, of course. We just need to make sure that the people with the highest number of points aren't in first. Definitely don't put TWD in there. Also, definitely try to control the top four rather than just the top three or, worse yet, the top two.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
Dunadan, you're abrasive like steel wool on the side of my face. I hate you like Bruce Wayne hates crime.
Unless you just mean I shouldn't be put in first, in which case I agree. I'd rather put someone with 17-19 points there.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
Let's not kill any unless we're sure we don't want them anywhere near first place, though. They're also our greatest asset, after all.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
Th-th-th-this is the first time someone called me trustworthy. I'm so happy I cou- I cou- I could cry.
Also, I fully approve of any plan putting me in the lead. Even if I die, I would have been first.
*goes to work for the day*
Non-game related nitpickery follows:
I gotta say though, I like TWD better than Dogg, so if it's your thing keep using it by all means.
I've never even noticed you before this game, and even then not until the latter part of it, so I'm having trouble remembering your name. If it helps, you can call me Rubbles.
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2nd+3rd place should go to Kime, Shalmelo, eecc or MrBlarney. We need to decide whom to trust among them.
And of course 4th goes to Funky.
Finally shalmelo because Dunadan's judgment is generally alright (and yet he voted for eecc, who has less votes) and I said I wouldn't red vote kime.
My picks summed up.
1- Tiphareth (7 votes)
2- MrBlarney (4 votes)
3- Kime (4 votes)
4- FWD (1 vote)
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
You should all be ashamed.
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shalmelo and/or kime is evil though. Let's go with shalmelo to switch things up from the last two days.
what you want is for someone with no points to come in first with FWD in second and everyone else in last. anyone in last should drift so that those who use items (mafia) end up behind them.
so put daius in first to suck up some blue shells
put FWD behind him with a 4 vote deficit and NOONE ELSE GETS ANY VOTES.
I don't think shalmelo is evil but eecc almost certainly is and is in a position to jump ahead if he can eliminate the people in front of him.
Am I missing something in your plan?
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theres only 3 left assuming normal balance.
and there are ways to block red shells.
And robos, you've got me wrong, although I understand your being suspicious after the minimalist game.
Still waiting on some village consensus before I give out my blue vote, but I'm going to campaign for myself one last time:
BlueVote melo! For the good of the village! When has Luigi ever steered you wrong?
Do we know that Daius or FWD have a way to block Red Shells?
Anyway, I did forget that you can't vote for yourself, so assuming we can get the village to go along with a plan the Mafia can only put two votes into their candidate of choice.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
Actually, I've got 4 red votes already, no one trusts me
Muahahaha
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It's Rainbow Road and the Mini Cup is on the line.
PM your strategy, trick, tactic, whatever to Infidel in order to increase your position. Submissions should be along the lines of the events that took place prior, but creativity is encouraged.
The top five submissions will result in a bonus, rated on creativity, presentation, and feasibility.
Submissions close one hour before race end.
I'll go with your plan for now, however. !blue spark Tiphareth.
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Also, FWD and anyone we're voting for should either drift or use their items so that random drifting players can't overtake them.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
You are gonna post these after the game, right?
as I have said before.
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because he can't win the cup since he has next to no points.
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no.
Naturally.
FYI, my brother will be the one going over these as a neutral third party, he doesn't know anyone and doesn't know who is or isn't mafia.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
Hmm. I thought we were voting Tiphareth since he has an outside chance of victory and was fairly trusted.
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