Title pretty much says it all.
Got a bit drunk last night. Three beers plus approx 35-40% of a fifth of vodka.
Didn't wake up until about 4 PM, didn't feel like moving until about 7 PM (laziness, not hung over... stopped feeling all effects from the alcohol at 4). I need to wake up at about 6:30AM tomorrow or my entire week's schedule is fucked, knowing my sleeping habits. And so, enter Nyquil.
Or at least, that's what I want. If it'll kill me, I guess I can hold off and just live with a shitty sleeping schedule.
What do you guys think?
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You should be in the clear.
By taking Nyquil, you're getting the sleep aid along with a bunch of stuff you don't need. Benadryl and a little booze gives you the sleepiness effect without the other bullshit.
I've rowed that boat before and it ain't pretty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxylamine_succinate (NyQuil, Unisom, generics)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diphenhydramine (Benadryl, Simply Sleep, generics)
It just happens to also be an antihistamine.
That's bad news bears when combined with alcohol. Like a vicious nut-kick to your liver.
Edit: Aaaand... I totally tl;dr the thread.
Careful about ODing on the glue.
Pretty sure you need a larger clearance between alcohol and acetaminophen than that.
Beer and Benadryl will put you to sleep.
You will wake up much earlier then other drunks, and you will feel like you didnt even drink.
Your girlfriend will also realize that she probably shouldnt have given you that Benadryl, and that you could have died.
But yeah, 1 beer and Benadryl probably wont kill you, and will probably knock you out.
10-20 beers and Benadryl will do the latter, but I cant guarentee the former...I may have gotten lucky.
Most OTC stuff doesn't work, and I knew someone who was a little... too into Ambien. Kinda scared me away from getting involved with that particular drug. I know Zanax doesn't work, at least not in recommended (or slightly more than recommended) doses.
Nyquil works, or getting drunk works. I don't like smoking, but if not for that, a weed high would be almost perfect. Anyway, this isn't something I'm doing every night in any case. I can usually time it so that I'm sleepy when I need to be.
or maybe it's just called simply sleep.
either way, it's OTC and works great
certainly not on topic, but always sunny is so amazing
also, second what these guys are saying nyquil is adding a bunch of shit you don't need
What I'm telling you is that you don't need Tylenol and the cough suppressant; they are, in fact, bad for you, especially when taken with alcohol. I'm not telling you to mix more drugs; I'm telling you to mix fewer, and just take the part of Nyquil that makes you sleepy, without the part that makes you not-sick.
Assuming you've experimented (maybe quite the assumption, I don't know), how would you compare a beer + benadryl to, say, 25%-30% a bottle of Nyquil? More effective, less effective?
Maybe drinking 25% - 30% of a bottle of Nyquil isn't such a great idea.
If you want benadryl to put you to sleep fast, get the capsules, open a dose worth up and pour the powder into a glass of water, and then chug it. I'll be impressed if you make it all the way to bed after that.
Live and learn.
So you're suggesting I not mix it with anything? Would mixing it with beer be a bad idea?
I do imagine I'll test it without any alcohol first in any case, but I'm just trying to gather opinions/ideas here. So far I'm getting that Nyquil is evil and that Benadryl is awesome. My goal is something that knocks me out quickly once in a while, not something that I need to take often.
Drinking 25-30% of a bottle of Nyquil is sending your liver a delivery of pure hate.
And no, Nyquil is most definitely not what people refer to as "sizzurp." There's way to much other stuff in there along with the dextro.
Beer and a Benadryl also isn't great for you, but if you need to use it to sleep once every few weeks, no biggie.
That said, I would highly recommend not using this on anything but a once a month or rarer case. As someone who ended up unable to sleep without assistance for several months, it is a dangerous path to go down and it would probably be best to avoid it altogether. There are several teas that are marketed for this purpose that have very low addiction rates, and would probably be the best bet for continued use should you have these situations more frequently.
No no no no fucking no. Do not self-medicate sleep aids.
You are not a doctor. You do not have Internet Dude, M.D. as your credentials. Sleeping aids are incredibly dangerous to fuck around with, and are extremely notorious for creating a dependency.
Talk to a doctor.
He was going to take Nyquil (an over the counter drug) to help him sleep. I advised him to instead take the two drugs from Nyquil that would help him sleep, and take those instead.
As an occasional thing, this is not a big deal. At all. What you are suggesting is the functional equivalent of "you have a headache?! Don't take aspirin! See a doctor! You shouldn't be using pain killers to medicate yourself!"
We're talking about an antihistamine here, not ephedrine or oxycodone. You'd be worse of taking acetaminophen(tylenol) in terms of ODing.
And unless you're elderly or on your deathbed, drinking a beer is going to do nothing more than activate the particular antihistamine present faster.
Thanatos isn't advocating him to pop 40 antihistamine pills and drink a 6 pack either.
While you're down at the drug store ask to talk to the pharmacist, explain the situation and get a recommendation. Print this thread out and take it with you, the pharmacist will get a good laugh out of it.
Everyone gets a restless night once in a while. Taking something to help ease you in is not going to turn him into a sleepless zombie for ever. Jesus H Christ stop being such a silly goose.
He's also not going to die from a failed liver if he took some tylenol PM and drank a beer one time. It's not like it makes your liver explode it's going to take a while to do.
They also have to be at the same time, the combination of the two being there concurrently is what is the worst. Once the tylenol is out it's out. Do you stop drinking for a week after you take a tylenol because you had a headache? How many people take tylenol after a night of heavy drinking? You don't see that many dead college kids because of their livers exploding.
You will be fine for fucks sake.
This is some serious fear mongering in here.
If the OP was complaining about chronic insomnia, my advice would be entirely different.
So, yeah. One night won't hurt you, nor will sometimes use. These days I wouldn't go near it even when I have insomnia. I do take some chamomile tea occasionally when I find myself struggling with insomnia, which usually works after an hour as well as sleep aids do. Most supermarkets have some variety of it in the $3.00 range.
Just something to consider.
Anyway, I appreciate the info so far everybody. Whatever I do, it's not something I'm going to be doing every night. I won't go into details, but I've only somewhat recently managed to attain a normal sleeping schedule, and I don't plan to fuck that up.
As an aside,
Ambien is especially bad.
Doxylamine is a antihistamine. It is also the strongest antihistamine/hypnotic that you can buy over the counter. Stronger than diphenhydramine. For the people saying to get benadryl instead, it really isnt a big difference.
You can get it in formulations that have doxylamine succinate as the only active ingredient but the other ingredients in Nyquil, DXM and APAP, in small doses will have no negative effect on someone.
The fact that the alcohol was already out of his system (because if it wasnt he would still be drunk) means that the APAP will have no negative effect (unless he already has liver damage).
There is no reason not to take OTC antihistamines/hypnotics as long as you take the responsibly. On the packages it should tell you the dosages to take (make sure you follow these) and not to take them for more than 3 or so days in a row. If you take them too long you will have difficulty getting to sleep without them.
Zolpidem (active ingredient in Ambien and Stilnox) is a very very weird drug. Think of it as a benzodiazepine but without some of the effects. It has the same abuse potential as other sleep aids but there is the side effect that if you try to not go to sleep you have vivid hallucinations. The next morning the user wll not remember a thing. MY dad takes Stilnox occasionally and god its awful. "Kristiiiiiiine, the palm tree is looking at me funny" (palm tree was a desk lamp)