So we get stiff once in a while. So we have a little fun. What’s wrong with that? This is a free country, isn’t it? I can take my panda any place I want to. And if I wanna buy it a drink, that’s my business.
Anyone using the holodeck after me would be walking knee-deep through my semen.
Ever notice that you never see anyone actually cleaning on TNG? How the heck does the place stay so clean?
Holographic janitors?
They did repurpose all the Mark 1 Holodocs for menial labor in high radiation asteroid mining. Its not out of the realm of possibility they use holograms for other dangerous/unsanitary jobs.
Cant they just use the teleporters to clean the spunk out of holodecks? I mean, they can teleport all sorts of shit, why not just teleport the semen out into space? Or turn that shit into stuff that can be reused by the replicators, atoms are atoms (although from a psychological perspective its kinda gross, I mean, some people worry about getting some man milk on their sandwich...)
As for the sonic showers, how do these work? Isnt it possible that these will leave you bruised and shit?
Also, Im currently watching the Child Captain Picard episode. Awesome.
Although I think Child Captain Picard is being out awesomed by Child Ensign Ro.
EDIT: Child Keiko not understanding that O'Brien may not want to bang her child form is pretty awkward.
So we get stiff once in a while. So we have a little fun. What’s wrong with that? This is a free country, isn’t it? I can take my panda any place I want to. And if I wanna buy it a drink, that’s my business.
So, Worf just made a personal shield out of a comm badge.
Sure itll only last 15 seconds, but I guess that means theyre totally doable, raising the issue of why dont they have these?
might be because it only stops bullets and no one uses that anymore other then the 'Peace' planet.
But mostly budget reasons prevent the away team from going in in full iron man power suits complete with shields and disruptor shoulder canon from predator.
Anyone using the holodeck after me would be walking knee-deep through my semen.
Ever notice that you never see anyone actually cleaning on TNG? How the heck does the place stay so clean?
Holographic janitors?
They did repurpose all the Mark 1 Holodocs for menial labor in high radiation asteroid mining. Its not out of the realm of possibility they use holograms for other dangerous/unsanitary jobs.
Dirty photonic scabs are just stealing jobs from hard-working exocomps.
Cant they just use the teleporters to clean the spunk out of holodecks? I mean, they can teleport all sorts of shit, why not just teleport the semen out into space? Or turn that shit into stuff that can be reused by the replicators, atoms are atoms (although from a psychological perspective its kinda gross, I mean, some people worry about getting some man milk on their sandwich...)
You should be aware that everything you have ever eaten was, at some point in the past, semen. Replicators just speed up the cycle of life.
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So, Worf just made a personal shield out of a comm badge.
Sure itll only last 15 seconds, but I guess that means theyre totally doable, raising the issue of why dont they have these?
might be because it only stops bullets and no one uses that anymore other then the 'Peace' planet.
But mostly budget reasons prevent the away team from going in in full iron man power suits complete with shields and disruptor shoulder canon from predator.
That and phasers are lolpowerful, which kind of makes sense really. The shield needs to protect the entire body, whilst the phaser just needs to punch a hole in one part of it. You kind of get this hilarious spiraling thing where people use their heavy armor to carry bigger phasers, until if you miss your target you vaporize the hill they were standing on.
And the federation doesn't want to be seen as war-like, which is why they go on away missions with a tricorder for the most part, maybe phasers if they think they're likely to be attacked.
So, Worf just made a personal shield out of a comm badge.
Sure itll only last 15 seconds, but I guess that means theyre totally doable, raising the issue of why dont they have these?
might be because it only stops bullets and no one uses that anymore other then the 'Peace' planet.
But mostly budget reasons prevent the away team from going in in full iron man power suits complete with shields and disruptor shoulder canon from predator.
That and phasers are lolpowerful, which kind of makes sense really. The shield needs to protect the entire body, whilst the phaser just needs to punch a hole in one part of it. You kind of get this hilarious spiraling thing where people use their heavy armor to carry bigger phasers, until if you miss your target you vaporize the hill they were standing on.
And the federation doesn't want to be seen as war-like, which is why they go on away missions with a tricorder for the most part, maybe phasers if they think they're likely to be attacked.
Even if it's not combat effective it's just a good idea to have a power suit.
How many away missions end for red shirts with simple stuff like rocks falling on them or an explosion causing a metal beam crushing them, or falling down a hole or... what ever. Something that lets you lift heavy shit and fly just makes too much sense for an away mission. Or say... jumping on to a mining laser to fist fight with super strong aliens.
Of course you can't have it when the budget is so small that you can't afford a proper action sequence but I think even a TV show can afford that these days.
So, Worf just made a personal shield out of a comm badge.
Sure itll only last 15 seconds, but I guess that means theyre totally doable, raising the issue of why dont they have these?
might be because it only stops bullets and no one uses that anymore other then the 'Peace' planet.
But mostly budget reasons prevent the away team from going in in full iron man power suits complete with shields and disruptor shoulder canon from predator.
That and phasers are lolpowerful, which kind of makes sense really. The shield needs to protect the entire body, whilst the phaser just needs to punch a hole in one part of it. You kind of get this hilarious spiraling thing where people use their heavy armor to carry bigger phasers, until if you miss your target you vaporize the hill they were standing on.
And the federation doesn't want to be seen as war-like, which is why they go on away missions with a tricorder for the most part, maybe phasers if they think they're likely to be attacked.
I think another huge part is that we never really see the gestation and growth of the Federation in the initial years or even centuries. I doubt it was zero to UNITED FEDERATION OF PLANETS from First Contact onwards.
I've always been under the impression that humans being general dickwads tried that exact same thing. Big mechanosuits of dominating armor until they found out that maybe that's not the best way to go about things.
Favorite episode by far is the one with the satellite that makes Picard relive the final memories of that dying planet. The one with the piccolo, god DAMN was that some good television.
So, Worf just made a personal shield out of a comm badge.
Sure itll only last 15 seconds, but I guess that means theyre totally doable, raising the issue of why dont they have these?
might be because it only stops bullets and no one uses that anymore other then the 'Peace' planet.
But mostly budget reasons prevent the away team from going in in full iron man power suits complete with shields and disruptor shoulder canon from predator.
That and phasers are lolpowerful, which kind of makes sense really. The shield needs to protect the entire body, whilst the phaser just needs to punch a hole in one part of it. You kind of get this hilarious spiraling thing where people use their heavy armor to carry bigger phasers, until if you miss your target you vaporize the hill they were standing on.
And the federation doesn't want to be seen as war-like, which is why they go on away missions with a tricorder for the most part, maybe phasers if they think they're likely to be attacked.
I think another huge part is that we never really see the gestation and growth of the Federation in the initial years or even centuries. I doubt it was zero to UNITED FEDERATION OF PLANETS from First Contact onwards.
wasn't that suppose to be Enterprise?
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So last night I got to wondering, what is the basis of Quark's business model? I know he makes latinum off his trading and smuggling and Quarking, but they never really demonstrate a payment system with regards to his actual bar.
In fact, this raises a larger issue for me. Whats the deal with restaurants that have replicators? Is it just for the illusion of service? The federation doesn't even have currency - or at least anything they use often - so what the butt.
So last night I got to wondering, what is the basis of Quark's business model? I know he makes latinum off his trading and smuggling and Quarking, but they never really demonstrate a payment system with regards to his actual bar.
In fact, this raises a larger issue for me. Whats the deal with restaurants that have replicators? Is it just for the illusion of service? The federation doesn't even have currency - or at least anything they use often - so what the butt.
It does seem kind of silly to go to a restaurant for something that's replicated- but on the other hand, people already go to bars and pay 5$ for a beer that they could buy in a liquor store for just $1.
So last night I got to wondering, what is the basis of Quark's business model? I know he makes latinum off his trading and smuggling and Quarking, but they never really demonstrate a payment system with regards to his actual bar.
In fact, this raises a larger issue for me. Whats the deal with restaurants that have replicators? Is it just for the illusion of service? The federation doesn't even have currency - or at least anything they use often - so what the butt.
It does seem kind of silly to go to a restaurant for something that's replicated- but on the other hand, people already go to bars and pay 5$ for a beer that they could buy in a liquor store for just $1.
I could see recipes being a draw too. Since they can customize the replicators, they can probably limit file access so Quark's mojio mix will only work at his bar.
Keep in Sisqo's dad owns a Cajun restaurant. Do you just serve everyone who comes in for free?
My impression of the Federation is that people in the future don't need money to survive, but some people still have it. Especially since the station wasn't actually built by the Federation, so you have a "when in Rome..." situation.
So last night I got to wondering, what is the basis of Quark's business model? I know he makes latinum off his trading and smuggling and Quarking, but they never really demonstrate a payment system with regards to his actual bar.
In fact, this raises a larger issue for me. Whats the deal with restaurants that have replicators? Is it just for the illusion of service? The federation doesn't even have currency - or at least anything they use often - so what the butt.
I think it's mostly gambling profits, but he does run a tab on alcoholic drinks which are not replicated (synthesis would be the replicator product).
I figure most casinos don't make jack from the buffets any way.
Keep in Sisqo's dad owns a Cajun restaurant. Do you just serve everyone who comes in for free?
My impression of the Federation is that people in the future don't need money to survive, but some people still have it. Especially since the station wasn't actually built by the Federation, so you have a "when in Rome..." situation.
Not that uncommon. A big trend in New York now are unregistered restaurants that stay in business on donations rather then charging for food directly.
People will do work for free as long as they are well taken care of.
Keep in Sisqo's dad owns a Cajun restaurant. Do you just serve everyone who comes in for free?
My impression of the Federation is that people in the future don't need money to survive, but some people still have it. Especially since the station wasn't actually built by the Federation, so you have a "when in Rome..." situation.
The problem with saying your commie space utopia has no money is that it raises too many questions that are difficult to answer without a form of currency. Like, how do all their trade agreements actually work?
So last night I got to wondering, what is the basis of Quark's business model? I know he makes latinum off his trading and smuggling and Quarking, but they never really demonstrate a payment system with regards to his actual bar.
In fact, this raises a larger issue for me. Whats the deal with restaurants that have replicators? Is it just for the illusion of service? The federation doesn't even have currency - or at least anything they use often - so what the butt.
I think it's mostly gambling profits, but he does run a tab on alcoholic drinks which are not replicated (synthesis would be the replicator product).
You can get real alcohol from a replicator. Worf did it once by swearing at the computer. Of course, you could charge a premium for non-replicated goods.
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You can get real alcohol from a replicator. Worf did it once by swearing at the computer. Of course, you could charge a premium for non-replicated goods.
Why would non-replicated goods have a premium? The replicated goods would have the exact same quality.
Keep in Sisqo's dad owns a Cajun restaurant. Do you just serve everyone who comes in for free?
My impression of the Federation is that people in the future don't need money to survive, but some people still have it. Especially since the station wasn't actually built by the Federation, so you have a "when in Rome..." situation.
The problem with saying your commie space utopia has no money is that it raises too many questions that are difficult to answer without a form of currency. Like, how do all their trade agreements actually work?
Barter? You know, that thing we did before we had money.
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I'm sure a commanding officer could force a computer to replicate alcohol(Mind you commanding officer can also override a computer and force it to create a super intelligent AI that can destroy the ship and everyone on it as well) but replicators in star fleet have a synthahol only policy.
Also ... you exchange goods and services with goods and services... what's so hard about that?
I'm sure a commanding officer could force a computer to replicate alcohol(Mind you commanding officer can also override a computer and force it to create a super intelligent AI that can destroy the ship and everyone on it as well) but replicators in star fleet have a synthahol only policy.
Also ... you exchange goods and services with goods and services... what's so hard about that?
I'm sure a commanding officer could force a computer to replicate alcohol(Mind you commanding officer can also override a computer and force it to create a super intelligent AI that can destroy the ship and everyone on it as well) but replicators in star fleet have a synthahol only policy.
Also ... you exchange goods and services with goods and services... what's so hard about that?
blowjob-based economy
Makes you wonder why the Ferengi trade viscous clear liquids, doesn't it?
You can get real alcohol from a replicator. Worf did it once by swearing at the computer. Of course, you could charge a premium for non-replicated goods.
Why would non-replicated goods have a premium? The replicated goods would have the exact same quality.
Well, the official reason they provides that replicators only work at the atomic level, rather than the quantum level. And people in the future have such refined tastes that they can tell the difference.
Of course, this fails for two reason:
1) Watch any tasting challenge on Hell's kitchen. Most people wearing a blind fold can't tell the difference between fillet minion or chicken, and these are people trying to work as Chef's for a living.
2) Having a preference for the "real" thing implies that you were heavily exposed to the "real" thing in the first place. The fact is, if there are differences between replicated foods and non-replicated foods, then people will prefer the former, because that's what they were raised on. Look at how lazy households are right now in regards to cooking. Now imagine having to study quantum physics at age ten, and having a machine that produces food that was replicated from the recipes of master chefs in 10 seconds. Hard choice, right?
You get a variability in cooking by hand that would be very hard to replicate (hur hur) with a replicator.
I've never made exactly the same stir-fry twice, and there is something quite lovely about the cooking process. Also, being able to watch a master chef craft your dish, smelling the excellent cooking smells... that's an experience that going to the computer and ordering filet mignon with mash and gravy can't replicate
I'm sure a commanding officer could force a computer to replicate alcohol(Mind you commanding officer can also override a computer and force it to create a super intelligent AI that can destroy the ship and everyone on it as well) but replicators in star fleet have a synthahol only policy.
Also ... you exchange goods and services with goods and services... what's so hard about that?
Yeah but you don't need to trade goods because the vast majority of stuff you can just make out of thin air. The only thing there would be a trade in are things such as art which are created by a specific individual, though even then replication of a design would likely be common. Things like antimatter probably need to be made in specific environments as well, but anyone who wants to make anti-matter can just make the machines he needs through his replicator first.
Services sure, but what do you pay people in? Goods? No, because everyone else has everything they want as well. You essentially have to have a system of favours, where one side delivers a service in return for the other side delivering a favour down the line. Which means reputation is important because people won't do shit for you if you have been known to pass off favours previously.
However the big problem is with Star Trek is that this is clearly not the case. References to ownership and traders and trade agreements suggest that Star Trek is obviously not supposed post-scarcity in anything but name, though replicators mean it really should be. Honestly if you took replicators and the arbitrary "no money in the future" out of Star Trek it would make so much more sense.
things that break down rapidly into not making sense in Star Trek if you think about them for too long:
- replicators
- transporters
- the economy of the Federation
- the size of the Klingon and Romulan Empires
- the Prime Directive
- starship combat tactics
- the holodeck
- AI
- robots
- the quasi-military structure of Starfleet
- gold-pressed latinum
- the lack of nanotechnology
- successful anti-transhumanism
- Starfleet uniforms
- People opting to have disabilities
- The Borg
Also I can't imagine that the science vessels didn't have a little still off to one side, you've never actually worked with real scientists if you think they're going to give up alcohol for a year-long research expedition
And any monster cable or audiophile review. If anyone can taste quantum matter it's them.
holy shit did you read the first comment for this thing?
This connection isn't sound. If my calculations are correct, it should be sometime around 2007 for whomever is reading this. DO NOT USE THESE CABLES. Something... happens with them. Something came through, something from somewhere else. We were overrun in days, not many of us are left. WE LIVE UNDERGROUND! ONLY YOU CAN STOP IT NOW. SAVE US. DO NOT USE THESE CABLES.
I don't have much time. This connection isn't sound. If my calculations are correct, it should be--
things that break down rapidly into not making sense in Star Trek if you think about them for too long:
- replicators
- transporters
- the economy of the Federation
- the size of the Klingon and Romulan Empires
- the Prime Directive
- starship combat tactics
- the holodeck
- AI
- robots
- the quasi-military structure of Starfleet
- gold-pressed latinum
- the lack of nanotechnology
- successful anti-transhumanism
- Starfleet uniforms
- People opting to have disabilities
- The Borg
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Holographic janitors?
They did repurpose all the Mark 1 Holodocs for menial labor in high radiation asteroid mining. Its not out of the realm of possibility they use holograms for other dangerous/unsanitary jobs.
As for the sonic showers, how do these work? Isnt it possible that these will leave you bruised and shit?
Also, Im currently watching the Child Captain Picard episode. Awesome.
Although I think Child Captain Picard is being out awesomed by Child Ensign Ro.
EDIT: Child Keiko not understanding that O'Brien may not want to bang her child form is pretty awkward.
Not child Ensign Ro of course, the adult version.
Sure itll only last 15 seconds, but I guess that means theyre totally doable, raising the issue of why dont they have these?
EDIT:
Yeah she is, Michelle Forbes is fucking hot.
Darmok, The Inner Light, Family, All Good Things... pretty much a roll-call of the best of TNG
This.
And Rascals is probably my second most-clearly remembered episode. Frame of Mind being the most. The whole mirror-smashing effect stuck with me.
might be because it only stops bullets and no one uses that anymore other then the 'Peace' planet.
But mostly budget reasons prevent the away team from going in in full iron man power suits complete with shields and disruptor shoulder canon from predator.
Dirty photonic scabs are just stealing jobs from hard-working exocomps.
You should be aware that everything you have ever eaten was, at some point in the past, semen. Replicators just speed up the cycle of life.
That and phasers are lolpowerful, which kind of makes sense really. The shield needs to protect the entire body, whilst the phaser just needs to punch a hole in one part of it. You kind of get this hilarious spiraling thing where people use their heavy armor to carry bigger phasers, until if you miss your target you vaporize the hill they were standing on.
And the federation doesn't want to be seen as war-like, which is why they go on away missions with a tricorder for the most part, maybe phasers if they think they're likely to be attacked.
Even if it's not combat effective it's just a good idea to have a power suit.
How many away missions end for red shirts with simple stuff like rocks falling on them or an explosion causing a metal beam crushing them, or falling down a hole or... what ever. Something that lets you lift heavy shit and fly just makes too much sense for an away mission. Or say... jumping on to a mining laser to fist fight with super strong aliens.
Of course you can't have it when the budget is so small that you can't afford a proper action sequence but I think even a TV show can afford that these days.
I think another huge part is that we never really see the gestation and growth of the Federation in the initial years or even centuries. I doubt it was zero to UNITED FEDERATION OF PLANETS from First Contact onwards.
I've always been under the impression that humans being general dickwads tried that exact same thing. Big mechanosuits of dominating armor until they found out that maybe that's not the best way to go about things.
Favorite episode by far is the one with the satellite that makes Picard relive the final memories of that dying planet. The one with the piccolo, god DAMN was that some good television.
In fact, this raises a larger issue for me. Whats the deal with restaurants that have replicators? Is it just for the illusion of service? The federation doesn't even have currency - or at least anything they use often - so what the butt.
It does seem kind of silly to go to a restaurant for something that's replicated- but on the other hand, people already go to bars and pay 5$ for a beer that they could buy in a liquor store for just $1.
I could see recipes being a draw too. Since they can customize the replicators, they can probably limit file access so Quark's mojio mix will only work at his bar.
My impression of the Federation is that people in the future don't need money to survive, but some people still have it. Especially since the station wasn't actually built by the Federation, so you have a "when in Rome..." situation.
I think it's mostly gambling profits, but he does run a tab on alcoholic drinks which are not replicated (synthesis would be the replicator product).
I figure most casinos don't make jack from the buffets any way.
Not that uncommon. A big trend in New York now are unregistered restaurants that stay in business on donations rather then charging for food directly.
People will do work for free as long as they are well taken care of.
The problem with saying your commie space utopia has no money is that it raises too many questions that are difficult to answer without a form of currency. Like, how do all their trade agreements actually work?
You can get real alcohol from a replicator. Worf did it once by swearing at the computer. Of course, you could charge a premium for non-replicated goods.
Barter? You know, that thing we did before we had money.
Also ... you exchange goods and services with goods and services... what's so hard about that?
blowjob-based economy
Makes you wonder why the Ferengi trade viscous clear liquids, doesn't it?
Well, the official reason they provides that replicators only work at the atomic level, rather than the quantum level. And people in the future have such refined tastes that they can tell the difference.
Of course, this fails for two reason:
1) Watch any tasting challenge on Hell's kitchen. Most people wearing a blind fold can't tell the difference between fillet minion or chicken, and these are people trying to work as Chef's for a living.
2) Having a preference for the "real" thing implies that you were heavily exposed to the "real" thing in the first place. The fact is, if there are differences between replicated foods and non-replicated foods, then people will prefer the former, because that's what they were raised on. Look at how lazy households are right now in regards to cooking. Now imagine having to study quantum physics at age ten, and having a machine that produces food that was replicated from the recipes of master chefs in 10 seconds. Hard choice, right?
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And any monster cable or audiophile review. If anyone can taste quantum matter it's them.
I remember a troi episode where she was all pissy at the replicator because it wouldn't give her "real" chocolate or some junk.
Similarly, with boozeyness, didn't Scott get the special supply from Data in 10-forward because none of the other booze actually got you tipsay?
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I've never made exactly the same stir-fry twice, and there is something quite lovely about the cooking process. Also, being able to watch a master chef craft your dish, smelling the excellent cooking smells... that's an experience that going to the computer and ordering filet mignon with mash and gravy can't replicate
Yeah but you don't need to trade goods because the vast majority of stuff you can just make out of thin air. The only thing there would be a trade in are things such as art which are created by a specific individual, though even then replication of a design would likely be common. Things like antimatter probably need to be made in specific environments as well, but anyone who wants to make anti-matter can just make the machines he needs through his replicator first.
Services sure, but what do you pay people in? Goods? No, because everyone else has everything they want as well. You essentially have to have a system of favours, where one side delivers a service in return for the other side delivering a favour down the line. Which means reputation is important because people won't do shit for you if you have been known to pass off favours previously.
However the big problem is with Star Trek is that this is clearly not the case. References to ownership and traders and trade agreements suggest that Star Trek is obviously not supposed post-scarcity in anything but name, though replicators mean it really should be. Honestly if you took replicators and the arbitrary "no money in the future" out of Star Trek it would make so much more sense.
- replicators
- transporters
- the economy of the Federation
- the size of the Klingon and Romulan Empires
- the Prime Directive
- starship combat tactics
- the holodeck
- AI
- robots
- the quasi-military structure of Starfleet
- gold-pressed latinum
- the lack of nanotechnology
- successful anti-transhumanism
- Starfleet uniforms
- People opting to have disabilities
- The Borg
holy shit did you read the first comment for this thing?
On the other hand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukMNfTnI5M8