I've wondered if these people can see how hypocritical they are?
"We want smaller government and to get rid of big brother for FREEDOM! But we also want to control your health decisions and force our beliefs on you cause ours are more freedomy. FREEDOM!"
I have a hard time believing they even know what freedom is.
Freedom to make sure that everyone lives they way God intended
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HacksawJ. Duggan Esq.Wrestler at LawRegistered Userregular
I swear, every day they come closer and closer to invoking The Handmaid's Tale as a template for the future.
On April 17, smack in the middle of Sexual Assault Awareness Month, Gov. Rick Scott vetoed $1.5 million for the Florida Council Against Sexual Violence. The Legislature allotted the funds to the organization in order to support 30 rape crisis centers as they face impending reductions in collections, which currently is the bulk of their budgets. [...]
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
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I don't hate her, because she is doing a better job tipping off the rest of the country to the out-of-touch ineptitude of most extreme conservative activists better than any of us could. Same reason I don't really mind when a crazy liberal comes out and says or does something dumb. It reminds those of a moderate mind how idiotic extreme politics is, and how dumb it makes everyone involved look.
I swear, every day they come closer and closer to invoking The Handmaid's Tale as a template for the future.
I suspect the costumes are a little too Catholic for them.
(As a digression, The Handmaid's Tale was less a warning for the future - remember, it has a happy ending - and more an examination about how women collaborate in, and indeed form the foot soldiers in, maintaining an oppressive patriarchy.)
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Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan was honored by Time for putting “himself and his church back in the center of the national political conversation.”
But guests were still buzzing about a joke that Mr. Colbert had made moments ealier. “Perhaps the most influential person on the list is here, Sara Blakely, the inventor of the Spanx,” Mr. Colbert said. “No one, no one has done more to control women’s bodies, except maybe Cardinal Dolan.”
Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan was honored by Time for putting “himself and his church back in the center of the national political conversation.”
But guests were still buzzing about a joke that Mr. Colbert had made moments ealier. “Perhaps the most influential person on the list is here, Sara Blakely, the inventor of the Spanx,” Mr. Colbert said. “No one, no one has done more to control women’s bodies, except maybe Cardinal Dolan.”
Hooooly shit....I hope there's a video of that speech somewhere. Hopefully a video that shows reaction shots of Dolan ala Obama's roast of Trump. That was amazing.
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
Not really a GOP thing, but I didn't feel that we needed a third or fourth concurrent [Women's Issues] thread (or if we do, it would be lovely for the Mods to merge all of the threads into one larger macro thread), so here's some news:
In an official statement yesterday, the Diocese said the Church is against IVF because it, "very frequently involves the deliberate destruction of embryos or the freezing of embryos, which the Church holds to be incompatible with the respect owed to human life."
Herx informed the church that no embryos have been destroyed during the process of her treatments.
So, basically, the Church fired her for creating life, just because sometimes in some cases (but not hers explicitly) it damages embryos.
For good measure, several male staff members of the school have gone on record as having vasectomies and using condoms, which the Church has yet to comment or take action upon.
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Just_Bri_ThanksSeething with ragefrom a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPAregular
I would also like a consolidation of issues. It is getting a little confusing deciding which thread I might want to post a reply into.
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ShadowenSnores in the morningLoserdomRegistered Userregular
...this is getting fucking ridiculous. It really is.
"Women are for making babies! If they're trying to stop themselves making babies, they're immoral sluts! But if they don't make babies the exact way we want them to, even if they don't have the opportunity, they're baby-murderers, even when they aren't!"
The Catholic church needs to reinstate the post of devil's advocate and put one in every church and Catholic school.
Was that an actual thing? Devils advocate? I just thought it was a phrase. I admittedly don't know too much on catholic history.
Yeah, his job, IIRC, was to say "This is why the person nominated shouldn't be a saint." They changed the title and responsibilities so that his job is "Convince me why the person nominated should be a saint. I am almost scientific in my skepticism."
But yeah, they need to bring him back, and then make him the sort of guy who picks apart every press release and decision before it's actually done.
Was that an actual thing? Devils advocate? I just thought it was a phrase. I admittedly don't know too much on catholic history.
Yeah, his job, IIRC, was to say "This is why the person nominated shouldn't be a saint." They changed the title and responsibilities so that his job is "Convince me why the person nominated should be a saint. I am almost scientific in my skepticism."
But yeah, they need to bring him back, and then make him the sort of guy who picks apart every press release and decision before it's actually done.
Maybe they got rid of him because his jobs just got to easy - "because he was a Nazi loving POS" is not a difficult decision to make.
Not really a GOP thing, but I didn't feel that we needed a third or fourth concurrent [Women's Issues] thread (or if we do, it would be lovely for the Mods to merge all of the threads into one larger macro thread), so here's some news:
In an official statement yesterday, the Diocese said the Church is against IVF because it, "very frequently involves the deliberate destruction of embryos or the freezing of embryos, which the Church holds to be incompatible with the respect owed to human life."
Herx informed the church that no embryos have been destroyed during the process of her treatments.
So, basically, the Church fired her for creating life, just because sometimes in some cases (but not hers explicitly) it damages embryos.
For good measure, several male staff members of the school have gone on record as having vasectomies and using condoms, which the Church has yet to comment or take action upon.
Holy shitfuck. This is not just a war on women anymore, it's pretty much open season on women.
I'm not a fan of the church's stance on these things, but the idea that IVF and abortion are both bad because they destroy viable embryos (and thus ensouled human life) is internally consistent. In my social circle there is more flak against the church for NOT condemning IVF. (Edit: To clarify, by flak I mean that saying abortion = bad but IVF = good is just pandering for the creation of more believers rather than sticking to a religiously consistent opinion.)
Now to be completely consistent they need to okay the use of contraceptives.
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I'm not a fan of the church's stance on these things, but the idea that IVF and abortion are both bad because they destroy viable embryos (and thus ensouled human life) is internally consistent. In my social circle there is more flak against the church for NOT condemning IVF. Now to be completely consistent they need to okay the use of contraceptives.
Except that's not the issue. The issue is the church pressing its beliefs on secular employees.
Angel, I agree that's a problem, but the belief-pressing matter has been news for a while now, esp. with regards to financing birth control/other medical procedures. This is the first I've heard of the IVF thing though, so I focused on that.
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I'm not a fan of the church's stance on these things, but the idea that IVF and abortion are both bad because they destroy viable embryos (and thus ensouled human life) is internally consistent. In my social circle there is more flak against the church for NOT condemning IVF. Now to be completely consistent they need to okay the use of contraceptives.
Except that's not the issue. The issue is the church pressing its beliefs on secular employees.
Considering the mention about male employees it sounds like sexual discrimination too!
I'm not a fan of the church's stance on these things, but the idea that IVF and abortion are both bad because they destroy viable embryos (and thus ensouled human life) is internally consistent. In my social circle there is more flak against the church for NOT condemning IVF. Now to be completely consistent they need to okay the use of contraceptives.
Except that's not the issue. The issue is the church pressing its beliefs on secular employees.
Considering the mention about male employees it sounds like sexual discrimination too!
Yeah, these apparent "ideals" are not being upheld equally in all cases. If this woman can get fired for using IVF, the guys getting vasectomies and using condoms should as well.
I'm not a fan of the church's stance on these things, but the idea that IVF and abortion are both bad because they destroy viable embryos (and thus ensouled human life) is internally consistent. In my social circle there is more flak against the church for NOT condemning IVF. Now to be completely consistent they need to okay the use of contraceptives.
Except that's not the issue. The issue is the church pressing its beliefs on secular employees.
Considering the mention about male employees it sounds like sexual discrimination too!
Yeah, these apparent "ideals" are not being upheld equally in all cases. If this woman can get fired for using IVF, the guys getting vasectomies and using condoms should as well.
Yeah, this is the point I was getting at. The church should think it's a good thing for men to get vasectomies and use condoms. They don't. It's one thing for the church to disagree with me, it's another for it to disagree with itself while also yelling at the moon.
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Maybe he should deal with that problem the way real men do, i.e. by becoming Batman
Former governor Rick Scott found dead this evening after being shot in the face by a local gang member. More at 11.
I cannot see a politician's name in a sentence that starts like that one without thinking of that sketch.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/04/24/lila_rose_accidentally_proves_how_much_the_united_states_doesn_t_have_a_sex_selective_abortion_problem_.html
*laugh track, applause*
Maybe I just really don't like what she says.
Urge to kill rising....
No! Back in your cage!
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I dunno, are you a Christian or something? They're not allowed to hate. Otherwise, go for it.
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No, no, no. You never say you are google searching something you do not know.
YOu just do it and then respond so it appears you know what you are talking about.
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The internets are strong with this one.
DAMN! I'm doing it wrong!
:P
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Don't forget to throw in some contempt in there along with pretending the thing you just looked up is totally something you always knew.
I suspect the costumes are a little too Catholic for them.
(As a digression, The Handmaid's Tale was less a warning for the future - remember, it has a happy ending - and more an examination about how women collaborate in, and indeed form the foot soldiers in, maintaining an oppressive patriarchy.)
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Fuck. Yes. Stephen.
edit: full speech, just as awesome http://thepage.time.com/2012/04/25/clinton-and-colbert-at-the-time-100/#ixzz1t6QTiNYT
Hooooly shit....I hope there's a video of that speech somewhere. Hopefully a video that shows reaction shots of Dolan ala Obama's roast of Trump. That was amazing.
Fort Wayne, Indiana, Diosese says IVF "immoral," fires school teacher who attempted artificial insemination.
So, basically, the Church fired her for creating life, just because sometimes in some cases (but not hers explicitly) it damages embryos.
For good measure, several male staff members of the school have gone on record as having vasectomies and using condoms, which the Church has yet to comment or take action upon.
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"Women are for making babies! If they're trying to stop themselves making babies, they're immoral sluts! But if they don't make babies the exact way we want them to, even if they don't have the opportunity, they're baby-murderers, even when they aren't!"
The Catholic church needs to reinstate the post of devil's advocate and put one in every church and Catholic school.
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Yeah, his job, IIRC, was to say "This is why the person nominated shouldn't be a saint." They changed the title and responsibilities so that his job is "Convince me why the person nominated should be a saint. I am almost scientific in my skepticism."
But yeah, they need to bring him back, and then make him the sort of guy who picks apart every press release and decision before it's actually done.
Oh. I just made myself sad.
Thanks Shadow
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Maybe they should focus on more churchy stuff and less on reproduction
Now to be completely consistent they need to okay the use of contraceptives.
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Except that's not the issue. The issue is the church pressing its beliefs on secular employees.
3clipse: The key to any successful marriage is a good mid-game transition.
Considering the mention about male employees it sounds like sexual discrimination too!
Yeah, these apparent "ideals" are not being upheld equally in all cases. If this woman can get fired for using IVF, the guys getting vasectomies and using condoms should as well.
Yeah, this is the point I was getting at. The church should think it's a good thing for men to get vasectomies and use condoms. They don't. It's one thing for the church to disagree with me, it's another for it to disagree with itself while also yelling at the moon.
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