How common is it for people to confuse being racist, sexist, etc. with being funny? Most of the time it isn't even "ironic."
there can be funny sexist/racist jokes
much in the same way that there can be funny jokes about any subject matter
There are basically jokes that happen to be involve sensitive, jokes that involve something sensitive in a way that is not so great, and references to problematic things that people think are funny.
They're all kinda different.
Both things can be funny, it is just incredibly dependant on a multitude of different factors such as delivery, timing, context, the actual joke itself, the audience, etc
Saying "this is a super special topic that you can't make light of" is just going to (a) make people go after the topic more and (b) give people who actually want to be hurtful a better idea of how they can do so.
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MortiousThe Nightmare BeginsMove to New ZealandRegistered Userregular
How common is it for people to confuse being racist, sexist, etc. with being funny? Most of the time it isn't even "ironic."
there can be funny sexist/racist jokes
much in the same way that there can be funny jokes about any subject matter
There are basically jokes that happen to be involve sensitive, jokes that involve something sensitive in a way that is not so great, and references to problematic things that people think are funny.
They're all kinda different.
Both things can be funny, it is just incredibly dependant on a multitude of different factors such as delivery, timing, context, the actual joke itself, the audience, etc
Saying "this is a super special topic that you can't make light of" is just going to (a) make people go after the topic more and (b) give people who actually want to be hurtful a better idea of how they can do so.
Hello from small town south-central Ontario, [chat]
There is a dog here that is in charge
I serve his every whim
You in one of the small towns named after big cities like Paris or Boston?
Not quite that small ... I don't think
Waterford size or Simcoe?
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TavIrish Minister for DefenceRegistered Userregular
could you please tell the mod who banned me that hes a knave; a rascal; an eater of broken meats; a base, proud, shallow, beggarly, three-suited, hundred-pound, filthy, worsted-stocking knave; a lily-liver'd, action-taking, whoreson, glass-gazing, superserviceable, finical rogue; one-trunk-inheriting slave; one that wouldst be a bawd in way of good service, and art nothing but the composition of a knave, beggar, coward, pander, and the son and heir of a mongrel bitch; one whom I will beat into clamorous whining, if they show their papist ass anywhere near me.
: How can I respond to a beslubbered, pebbling, churlish clotpole, a beef-witted gleeking bum-bailey, a gorbellied, mewling, hedge-born, onion-eyed, fustilarian cob-loaf! Flappy-eared, knotty-pated measle, a ruttish, reeking coxcomb, a bugger-mugger moldwarp! Pottle-deep, maggot-pie lewdster! Yeasty, tickle-brained, whey-faced, nut-hook skainsmate!
could you please tell the mod who banned me that hes a knave; a rascal; an eater of broken meats; a base, proud, shallow, beggarly, three-suited, hundred-pound, filthy, worsted-stocking knave; a lily-liver'd, action-taking, whoreson, glass-gazing, superserviceable, finical rogue; one-trunk-inheriting slave; one that wouldst be a bawd in way of good service, and art nothing but the composition of a knave, beggar, coward, pander, and the son and heir of a mongrel bitch; one whom I will beat into clamorous whining, if they show their papist ass anywhere near me.
: How can I respond to a beslubbered, pebbling, churlish clotpole, a beef-witted gleeking bum-bailey, a gorbellied, mewling, hedge-born, onion-eyed, fustilarian cob-loaf! Flappy-eared, knotty-pated measle, a ruttish, reeking coxcomb, a bugger-mugger moldwarp! Pottle-deep, maggot-pie lewdster! Yeasty, tickle-brained, whey-faced, nut-hook skainsmate!
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I got that one too! I learned like, 30 new insults.
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SarksusATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered Userregular
This is like an ARG
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ShivahnUnaware of her barrel shifter privilegeWestern coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderatormod
How common is it for people to confuse being racist, sexist, etc. with being funny? Most of the time it isn't even "ironic."
there can be funny sexist/racist jokes
much in the same way that there can be funny jokes about any subject matter
There are basically jokes that happen to be involve sensitive, jokes that involve something sensitive in a way that is not so great, and references to problematic things that people think are funny.
They're all kinda different.
Both things can be funny, it is just incredibly dependant on a multitude of different factors such as delivery, timing, context, the actual joke itself, the audience, etc
Saying "this is a super special topic that you can't make light of" is just going to (a) make people go after the topic more and (b) give people who actually want to be hurtful a better idea of how they can do so.
could you please tell the mod who banned me that hes a knave; a rascal; an eater of broken meats; a base, proud, shallow, beggarly, three-suited, hundred-pound, filthy, worsted-stocking knave; a lily-liver'd, action-taking, whoreson, glass-gazing, superserviceable, finical rogue; one-trunk-inheriting slave; one that wouldst be a bawd in way of good service, and art nothing but the composition of a knave, beggar, coward, pander, and the son and heir of a mongrel bitch; one whom I will beat into clamorous whining, if they show their papist ass anywhere near me.
: How can I respond to a beslubbered, pebbling, churlish clotpole, a beef-witted gleeking bum-bailey, a gorbellied, mewling, hedge-born, onion-eyed, fustilarian cob-loaf! Flappy-eared, knotty-pated measle, a ruttish, reeking coxcomb, a bugger-mugger moldwarp! Pottle-deep, maggot-pie lewdster! Yeasty, tickle-brained, whey-faced, nut-hook skainsmate!
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mein gott, the english, it is not as i remember it
I mean he addresses that but still I hate seeing stuff like that. You can't divorce race from how we interact with it.
My one anthropology prof did that, based upon his knowledge of genetics, and he was technically correct but still pretty aloof and condescending in his understanding of it.
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TavIrish Minister for DefenceRegistered Userregular
Should really have put some semi-colons in between those insults so it was clearer that it was a list.
Tsk tsk, crazy people aren't what they used to be.
Time was a man could talk to himself in public and others could simply wave their hands and say he was under the vapors or on the bottle or possessed by demons and needed a good spanking.
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ShivahnUnaware of her barrel shifter privilegeWestern coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderatormod
I mean he addresses that but still I hate seeing stuff like that. You can't divorce race from how we interact with it.
My one anthropology prof did that, based upon his knowledge of genetics, and he was technically correct but still pretty aloof and condescending in his understanding of it.
Well there are certainly racial correlates but they don't have much bearing on reality. Black people get diabetes more often, true facts. That's kinda separate from how we conceptualize and act on their blackness.
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AManFromEarthLet's get to twerk!The King in the SwampRegistered Userregular
Ahahaaha, Punk Ass Book Jockeys
Season 2 of Parks is great.
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CorehealerThe ApothecaryThe softer edge of the universe.Registered Userregular
How common is it for people to confuse being racist, sexist, etc. with being funny? Most of the time it isn't even "ironic."
there can be funny sexist/racist jokes
much in the same way that there can be funny jokes about any subject matter
There are basically jokes that happen to be involve sensitive, jokes that involve something sensitive in a way that is not so great, and references to problematic things that people think are funny.
They're all kinda different.
Both things can be funny, it is just incredibly dependant on a multitude of different factors such as delivery, timing, context, the actual joke itself, the audience, etc
Saying "this is a super special topic that you can't make light of" is just going to (a) make people go after the topic more and (b) give people who actually want to be hurtful a better idea of how they can do so.
I admit this is something I actually do, and I should probably stop.
Man I think I agree with the gist but "race isn't complicated because it's not real" is dumb.
For analogies, consider gender or our selection of axioms for mathematics.
There's probably quite a bit wrong with the article, but it does speak to me.
It's something that I do a lot, mostly because I carry a lot of guilt over my still quite recent cultural heritage.
I had a friend who I used to verbally spar with like this. Jokingly, but probably also as a way to find our place in the "new South Africa" since we were both one foot in/one foot out since the transition happened in our teens, but from different sides.
And that conversation style tends to carry over to other people (including this forum) but without any of the history and context that it was born in.
I mean he addresses that but still I hate seeing stuff like that. You can't divorce race from how we interact with it.
My one anthropology prof did that, based upon his knowledge of genetics, and he was technically correct but still pretty aloof and condescending in his understanding of it.
Well there are certainly racial correlates but they don't have much bearing on reality. Black people get diabetes more often, true facts. That's kinda separate from how we conceptualize and act on their blackness.
Hence my disagreement with his relatively rationalized, simplistic view of it. He basically was saying, it's not reflected in genetics in any real way and so you should just not give a shit about it anymore, full stop.
Maybe in a perfect world, but...
Corehealer on
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ShivahnUnaware of her barrel shifter privilegeWestern coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderatormod
How common is it for people to confuse being racist, sexist, etc. with being funny? Most of the time it isn't even "ironic."
there can be funny sexist/racist jokes
much in the same way that there can be funny jokes about any subject matter
There are basically jokes that happen to be involve sensitive, jokes that involve something sensitive in a way that is not so great, and references to problematic things that people think are funny.
They're all kinda different.
Both things can be funny, it is just incredibly dependant on a multitude of different factors such as delivery, timing, context, the actual joke itself, the audience, etc
Saying "this is a super special topic that you can't make light of" is just going to (a) make people go after the topic more and (b) give people who actually want to be hurtful a better idea of how they can do so.
I admit this is something I actually do, and I should probably stop.
Man I think I agree with the gist but "race isn't complicated because it's not real" is dumb.
For analogies, consider gender or our selection of axioms for mathematics.
There's probably quite a bit wrong with the article, but it does speak to me.
It's something that I do a lot, mostly because I carry a lot of guilt over my still quite recent cultural heritage.
I had a friend who I used to verbally spar with like this. Jokingly, but probably also as a way to find our place in the "new South Africa" since we were both one foot in/one foot out since the transition happened in our teens, but from different sides.
And that conversation style tends to carry over to other people (including this forum) but without any of the history and context that it was born in.
And I really need to unlearn that.
Ha.
Transition.
Anyway, I find myself in the state of "You are a complete dumbass and your argument is riddled with holes but I agree with the conclusion" a lot. And I usually end up playing "devil's advocate" because of it, but what I'm really doing is shooting down terrible arguments because they bug me almost as much as people being terrible. And then saying "but this is right in the end because" and then something that is less terrible an argument.
I mean he addresses that but still I hate seeing stuff like that. You can't divorce race from how we interact with it.
My one anthropology prof did that, based upon his knowledge of genetics, and he was technically correct but still pretty aloof and condescending in his understanding of it.
Well there are certainly racial correlates but they don't have much bearing on reality. Black people get diabetes more often, true facts. That's kinda separate from how we conceptualize and act on their blackness.
Hence my disagreement with his relatively rationalized, simplistic view of it. He basically was saying, it's not reflected in genetics in any real way and so you should just not give a shit about it anymore, full stop.
Maybe in a perfect world, but...
Ah. Yeah, it's reflected in genetics with certain markers that tend not to matter at all, at best. So people should not give a shit!
But as long as they do let's work with that instead of fantasyland where the inhabitants aren't super shitty at being rational, logical, or nice.
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goebbels pls
Both things can be funny, it is just incredibly dependant on a multitude of different factors such as delivery, timing, context, the actual joke itself, the audience, etc
Saying "this is a super special topic that you can't make light of" is just going to (a) make people go after the topic more and (b) give people who actually want to be hurtful a better idea of how they can do so.
I actually just finished reading this article.
http://jezebel.com/5905291/a-complete-guide-to-hipster-racism
I admit this is something I actually do, and I should probably stop.
It’s not a very important country most of the time
http://steamcommunity.com/id/mortious
Not quite that small ... I don't think
I have been wondering about this.
Please try to explain how day/month/year is not the most logical and apparent solution?
where the hell are you?
Wanna ride that dog.
also, I'm not clicking a jezebel link, gawker are the fucking pits
Waterford size or Simcoe?
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I got that one too! I learned like, 30 new insults.
Man I think I agree with the gist but "race isn't complicated because it's not real" is dumb.
For analogies, consider gender or our selection of axioms for mathematics.
mein gott, the english, it is not as i remember it
Guelph?
Closer to Simcoe in size
I'm in Cobourg
My one anthropology prof did that, based upon his knowledge of genetics, and he was technically correct but still pretty aloof and condescending in his understanding of it.
8->
You're getting slow in your old age.
Tsk tsk, crazy people aren't what they used to be.
MAYBE IT WAS A GREAT IDEA
The Great Lakes are really big. And Ontario is even one of the wimpier ones.
It was like being insulted by the Bronte sisters. I felt the urge to put on a frilly collar and powder my wig.
Time was a man could talk to himself in public and others could simply wave their hands and say he was under the vapors or on the bottle or possessed by demons and needed a good spanking.
Well there are certainly racial correlates but they don't have much bearing on reality. Black people get diabetes more often, true facts. That's kinda separate from how we conceptualize and act on their blackness.
Season 2 of Parks is great.
Ah yes, the side of Toronto I don't frequent.
What's it like in magical eastern Ontario?
Lack of food?
Lack of sleep?
Stress?
Too much awesome salsa?
Who knows!
There's probably quite a bit wrong with the article, but it does speak to me.
It's something that I do a lot, mostly because I carry a lot of guilt over my still quite recent cultural heritage.
I had a friend who I used to verbally spar with like this. Jokingly, but probably also as a way to find our place in the "new South Africa" since we were both one foot in/one foot out since the transition happened in our teens, but from different sides.
And that conversation style tends to carry over to other people (including this forum) but without any of the history and context that it was born in.
And I really need to unlearn that.
It’s not a very important country most of the time
http://steamcommunity.com/id/mortious
an anti-racism strategy founded on "THERES NO DIFFERENCE" has the obvious flipside of "BUT I WOULD TOTALLY BE A DICK IF THERE WAS"
naw
Indeed! I've travelled a fair bit today but barely made my way around the lake at all
Hence my disagreement with his relatively rationalized, simplistic view of it. He basically was saying, it's not reflected in genetics in any real way and so you should just not give a shit about it anymore, full stop.
Maybe in a perfect world, but...
Ha.
Transition.
Anyway, I find myself in the state of "You are a complete dumbass and your argument is riddled with holes but I agree with the conclusion" a lot. And I usually end up playing "devil's advocate" because of it, but what I'm really doing is shooting down terrible arguments because they bug me almost as much as people being terrible. And then saying "but this is right in the end because" and then something that is less terrible an argument.
People love this, I assure you.
Taco Bell, Panda Express, Chick-Fil-A, Five Guys, Subway, or Elevation Burger?
Taco Bell.
Ah. Yeah, it's reflected in genetics with certain markers that tend not to matter at all, at best. So people should not give a shit!
But as long as they do let's work with that instead of fantasyland where the inhabitants aren't super shitty at being rational, logical, or nice.