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I betrayed ronya and made this [chat]

EddyEddy Gengar the BittersweetRegistered User regular
edited March 2015 in Debate and/or Discourse
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sup fresh it's our turn baby

"and the morning stars I have seen
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
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  • EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    ronya emerged from the pit i threw him into and made his own chat thread

    what is this salty discharge from my eyes

    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
  • VanguardVanguard But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    i support your betrayal

  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    I will roll with it.

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  • simonwolfsimonwolf i can feel a difference today, a differenceRegistered User regular
    both these chats are terrible

  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    I am a fan of betrayal.

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  • FeralFeral ＭＥＭＥＴＩＣＨＡＲＩＺＡＲＤ interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited March 2015
    If art were the slightest bit threatening to fascists, we'd see some evidence of it.

    Like Hitler burning books or Stalin purging artists or something like that.

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    You did betray ronya.

    Shaaaaame

  • EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    simonwolf wrote: »
    both these chats are terrible

    BEHOLD THE WEAKNESS OF THE MODERN ELECTORAL SYSTEM, SAME AS THE OLD SUCCESSION SYSTEM

    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
  • VanguardVanguard But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Feral wrote: »
    If art were the slightest bit threatening to fascists, we'd see some evidence of it.

    Like Hitler burning books or Stalin purging artists or something like that.

    I think there is plenty of evidence of work being destroyed throughout history, although maybe not by fascists. Destroying cultural artifacts (more difficult now) is a fantastic way to destroy said culture.

  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Eddy wrote: »
    Art is much more useful for the majority / tradition / power side, because anything revolutionary can easily be commodified and rendered harmless

    therefore the only stalwart aide to revolutionaries is of course actually putting boots on the ground

    anyway I managed to ctrl-c this before it closed

    I think our political contexts are reversed

    the majority are the good guys for me

    the revolutionaries for me are the ones who want to fight against multiculturalism, feminism, tolerance and progressiveness

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  • EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    If art were the slightest bit threatening to fascists, we'd see some evidence of it.

    Like Hitler burning books or Stalin purging artists or something like that.

    I was thinking of a more personal fascism, you know?

    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
  • WashWash Sweet Christmas Registered User regular
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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    If art were the slightest bit threatening to fascists, we'd see some evidence of it.

    Like Hitler burning books or Stalin purging artists or something like that.

    Stalin was a fascist?

    Not a fan of using fascist as a synonym for authoritarian. It's a specific ideology!

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  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    Wash wrote: »
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    finally. art we can all agree on.

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  • EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Eddy wrote: »
    Art is much more useful for the majority / tradition / power side, because anything revolutionary can easily be commodified and rendered harmless

    therefore the only stalwart aide to revolutionaries is of course actually putting boots on the ground

    anyway I managed to ctrl-c this before it closed

    I think our political contexts are reversed

    the majority are the good guys for me

    the revolutionaries for me are the ones who want to fight against multiculturalism, feminism, tolerance and progressiveness

    I'm so mad that it's always the far-right haters who are always willing to put boots on the ground and shoot guns in the air

    my side endorses neither shoes nor guns

    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    or a synonym for whatever.

    Anyway, I support this [chat] and want it to succeed as a small rebellion against the oppressive system under which we labour.

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  • EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    If art were the slightest bit threatening to fascists, we'd see some evidence of it.

    Like Hitler burning books or Stalin purging artists or something like that.

    Stalin was a fascist?

    Not a fan of using fascist as a synonym for authoritarian. It's a specific ideology!

    I think russia under his rule hit enough of the fascist checkmarks for it to be a valid label

    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Eddy wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Eddy wrote: »
    Art is much more useful for the majority / tradition / power side, because anything revolutionary can easily be commodified and rendered harmless

    therefore the only stalwart aide to revolutionaries is of course actually putting boots on the ground

    anyway I managed to ctrl-c this before it closed

    I think our political contexts are reversed

    the majority are the good guys for me

    the revolutionaries for me are the ones who want to fight against multiculturalism, feminism, tolerance and progressiveness

    I'm so mad that it's always the far-right haters who are always willing to put boots on the ground and shoot guns in the air

    my side endorses neither shoes nor guns

    then you're still in the middle

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  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    If art were the slightest bit threatening to fascists, we'd see some evidence of it.

    Like Hitler burning books or Stalin purging artists or something like that.

    there is a sweet spot where the intelligentsia occupies a revolutionary role in an authoritarian state. after the Wall actually fell, polish intellectuals suddenly found their podium swamped by the people they worked to liberate

    there was a talk here, the other day, that pointed out that singapore rapidly moved from having local artists rigidly regulated/intimidated to having literally more days with arts festivals than days without in the year. in both situations, the state is happy; any revolutionary content is discredited by the cheap sex and melodrama that dominate when art is easy.

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  • SummaryJudgmentSummaryJudgment Grab the hottest iron you can find, stride in the Tower’s front door Registered User regular
    Is Constitution really all that important for fighters?

    It's got the Gold star and everything, but I'm wondering if I wouldn't be better off with a high Might

    I want to build two-handed melee warrior focusing more on DPS than tanking

    Edit: Like, I'm looking at Chanters now. Constitution is gold starred - why? Why not Might instead? They both give a Fortitude bonus, and a Chanter is supposed to be DPSing things, at least relative to a Fighter or Paladin

  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Eddy wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    If art were the slightest bit threatening to fascists, we'd see some evidence of it.

    Like Hitler burning books or Stalin purging artists or something like that.

    Stalin was a fascist?

    Not a fan of using fascist as a synonym for authoritarian. It's a specific ideology!

    I think russia under his rule hit enough of the fascist checkmarks for it to be a valid label

    the lack of a mixed economy is the main thing that disqualifies it

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  • MortiousMortious The Nightmare Begins Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    So now what? Do I just duplicate my posts in both [chat]s?

    Move to New Zealand
    It’s not a very important country most of the time
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  • programjunkieprogramjunkie Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    If art were the slightest bit threatening to fascists, we'd see some evidence of it.

    Like Hitler burning books or Stalin purging artists or something like that.

    Not really. Evil is evil for its own sake. It's not that they really think that, to use a more modern example, Pussy Riot is going to lead a glorious youth revolution against the entrenched kleptocracy of Russia; they are vain, malicious, and devoid of any redeeming moral qualities, so harming those who oppose them is not just a means, it is an end.

  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    "Writing about snow for rich people is not art" reminds me of the beginning of The Delta of Venus

  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    but yeah the nationalist turn that the USSR took under Stalin does blur the distinction a bit

    then again the dictator's playbook doesn't seem to differ that much from regime to regime

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  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    SummaryJudgment wrote: »
    Is Constitution really all that important for fighters?

    It's got the Gold star and everything, but I'm wondering if I wouldn't be better off with a high Might

    I want to build two-handed melee warrior focusing more on DPS than tanking

    Edit: Like, I'm looking at Chanters now. Constitution is gold starred - why? Why not Might instead? They both give a Fortitude bonus, and a Chanter is supposed to be DPSing things, at least relative to a Fighter or Paladin

    If you aren't fighting for the constitution then what kind of patriot are you? What are you fighting for?

    I thought this was America!

  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    What I don't understand is why it took this long to come up with two scrub tier chat OPs.

    What could he have been thinking of when he shot his best friend? What in God's name can he be thinking of now?
  • FeralFeral ＭＥＭＥＴＩＣＨＡＲＩＺＡＲＤ interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Eddy wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    If art were the slightest bit threatening to fascists, we'd see some evidence of it.

    Like Hitler burning books or Stalin purging artists or something like that.

    Stalin was a fascist?

    Not a fan of using fascist as a synonym for authoritarian. It's a specific ideology!

    I think russia under his rule hit enough of the fascist checkmarks for it to be a valid label

    the lack of a mixed economy is the main thing that disqualifies it

    Fair enough.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Eddy wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    If art were the slightest bit threatening to fascists, we'd see some evidence of it.

    Like Hitler burning books or Stalin purging artists or something like that.

    Stalin was a fascist?

    Not a fan of using fascist as a synonym for authoritarian. It's a specific ideology!

    I think russia under his rule hit enough of the fascist checkmarks for it to be a valid label

    the lack of a mixed economy is the main thing that disqualifies it

    Fair enough.

    despotism is, if not an ideology, at least always very familiar

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  • programjunkieprogramjunkie Registered User regular
    Eddy wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Eddy wrote: »
    Art is much more useful for the majority / tradition / power side, because anything revolutionary can easily be commodified and rendered harmless

    therefore the only stalwart aide to revolutionaries is of course actually putting boots on the ground

    anyway I managed to ctrl-c this before it closed

    I think our political contexts are reversed

    the majority are the good guys for me

    the revolutionaries for me are the ones who want to fight against multiculturalism, feminism, tolerance and progressiveness

    I'm so mad that it's always the far-right haters who are always willing to put boots on the ground and shoot guns in the air

    my side endorses neither shoes nor guns

    I've always considered that a mistake. Just because you are the good guys doesn't mean you cannot or should not use many of the same tools, just towards a different end. The idea that just because our ultimate goals are peace, human dignity, development, equality, fraternity, etc. that we must allow insidious elements to develop like a cancer within our societies and poison us from within, or allow the barbarians outside the gates to hammer at our civilization to drag us back into perdition is absurd. Weakness is not virtue.

  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    shit it's so late that I'll soon need to make a decision about when to take the bus

    and then starting to pack and shit


    I think maybe another pint of old fashioned made with terrible scotch

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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    no not terrible

    cheap, cheap scotch

    I am thrifty not trashy

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  • simonwolfsimonwolf i can feel a difference today, a differenceRegistered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    shit it's so late that I'll soon need to make a decision about when to take the bus

    and then starting to pack and shit


    I think maybe another pint of old fashioned made with terrible scotch

    There's so many horrifying things in this post

    it's so perfectly Abdhyius

  • WashWash Sweet Christmas Registered User regular
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  • EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    Regina Fong wrote: »
    What I don't understand is why it took this long to come up with two scrub tier chat OPs.

    I did the RL version of accidentally staying on cheetah speed as I was plotting in my chambers

    "and the morning stars I have seen
    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
  • knitdanknitdan In ur base Killin ur guysRegistered User regular
    Jones!?!

    “I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
    -Indiana Solo, runner of blades
  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    Regina Fong wrote: »
    What I don't understand is why it took this long to come up with two scrub tier chat OPs.

    I blame eddy.

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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    programjunkie wrote: »
    Eddy wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Eddy wrote: »
    Art is much more useful for the majority / tradition / power side, because anything revolutionary can easily be commodified and rendered harmless

    therefore the only stalwart aide to revolutionaries is of course actually putting boots on the ground

    anyway I managed to ctrl-c this before it closed

    I think our political contexts are reversed

    the majority are the good guys for me

    the revolutionaries for me are the ones who want to fight against multiculturalism, feminism, tolerance and progressiveness

    I'm so mad that it's always the far-right haters who are always willing to put boots on the ground and shoot guns in the air

    my side endorses neither shoes nor guns

    I've always considered that a mistake. Just because you are the good guys doesn't mean you cannot or should not use many of the same tools, just towards a different end. The idea that just because our ultimate goals are peace, human dignity, development, equality, fraternity, etc. that we must allow insidious elements to develop like a cancer within our societies and poison us from within, or allow the barbarians outside the gates to hammer at our civilization to drag us back into perdition is absurd. Weakness is not virtue.

    And abuse of power and the use of violence and force is not strength.

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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    speaking of I am annoyed that I never knew Finis Coronat Opus until I posted that mirror's edge screenshot.

    I mean, I love that game so much but I never noticed it and I really like that phrase


    anyway, the end does not crown the work

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  • knitdanknitdan In ur base Killin ur guysRegistered User regular
    Anime anime anime anime anime anime

    “I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
    -Indiana Solo, runner of blades
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