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Penny Arcade - Comic - Linguamancy
Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary.
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Nostalgia aside, well it's not really aside. Apple's been making the same thing over and over. It's like buying the new Madden. It's very much like the old Madden. Maybe it has some more hut huts and pictures on helmets but it's the same thing. "Same thing" isn't a great line for a sales pitch, though.
On the one hand, recording X seconds of video automatically when you press the snap button, assuming each frame can look nice, is a neat idea when you want to document something you can't reliably reproduce, like animal behaviour or young children's expressions.
On the other hand, call a spade a spade.
(note that this webcomic is from 2012)
That may be good marketing, but overall their brand is losing the luster that distinguished it for so long.
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It's been acting up in Chrome for me (works fine in IE at the moment).
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Wait, i assumed the comic was joking about both features. Are you telling me Apple really announced something with video and insisted it wasn't video?
Never thought I'd feel like I was getting paid anti-fanboy advertising from PA... I always thought you guys were above that sort of behavior...
The "live photos" don't use any standard video codec or storage approaches, they are stored as images in a new way to cut down on space use. Tim was referring to what they think is an innovative way to approach accomplishing this, which differs from others in the market. So, yes they have images which aren't video, but behave like video...
Wow. Innovative!
I do not care about how it is stored or whatever.
This is "video". Calling it anything else is dishonest and disingenuous.
By coincidence it was the day of this announcement, and I had a guy give me the spiel on the iphone6S
He used that exact term - it's magic! 'When I think of it, I think magic!' And I said to him 'it's a short video?' 'NO man, it's magic! It captures the moment just after and just before you press the button!' 'It captures images before you press the button.' 'Yes!'
I thought about it for a bit. 'So it'd be good for something like Vines?' 'No, Vines are videos.' It's the party line, I suppose they have to follow it.
I might get it, because I need a real phone and it has a bitching camera and despite the ridiculous spin they're putting on them, short animated video/pictures are neat, whatever. Though this whole pressure/touch system - the 3D(depth) thing where you push at varying degrees sounds a little annoying.
Is a gif file a video? Fundamentally it's the same basic concept as this, but I think you'd have a hard time calling a gif file or this a video.
The image file itself gets saved as a JPEG. Anybody without an Apple device will see a static image, but anybody with an Apple device will see the "live photo". I am not under the impression that JPEG is a video format.
They can call their proprietary implementation whatever they like, after all. Their differentiation is what they believe makes it something other than video, you are certainly free to disagree.
Yes.
And of course Apple is free to call it what they like. But trumpeting it as this magical feature, when all they have really done is found a way to store video in yet one more special format, is disingenuous in a special goosey kind of way that only Apple can be.
The idiocy of this Apple employee is amazing. All camera apps are capturing images before you press the button, that's why you're able to see images on the screen to line up your shot. All this is doing is saving a second and a half of that info in memory all the time. It's basically a FIFO stack which stores video frames.
If there's any "fanboys" or "shills" around here, it's pretty obvious who they are.
And yes it's hilarious that Apple is now coming out with an iSurface, thanks for bringing that up in a discussion where it might otherwise have been overlooked.
Maybe he thinks you're literally looking through the phone when you use the camera
Maybe that'll be their next innovation, the "Apple Viewfinder".
They aren't stored as images to cut down on space, my reading of the tech is that they are using already existing video compression techniques (B-frames or P-frames...B-frames makes more sense to me) on an image sequence.
While that is how you're getting a live preview, on the phones I've used you're at least getting a much lower frame rate than when you actually record video or use a burst shot. This might be something that is better on Android phones with Camera API2 and compatible ISP but my Note 4 suffers from the same thing.
My good sir/madam, I implore you to take a look at the Moto X phones (Tom's Hardware comparison) coming out in the next few weeks, available for preorder right now.
FIFO... stack? Wouldn't that be a queue?
Hah, really? You must not be as big of a fan as you claim then. But hey, if you're going to accuse us of shilling, at least let me reap the benefits. Apple/MS: If either of you would like to send us checks, please email advertising@penny-arcade.com, thanks!
What's disingenuous is taking what was said out of context and trying to twists its meaning to say they claimed something they didn't.
But now that you mention it, I do have a subliminal urge to ditch my iPad and buy a Surface.
They're great! I use it for everything that an iPad can't do. It's cool too! I'm very popular at [INSERT LOCAL COLLEGE HERE]. If you have any questions, email me at michaellc@surfacetheworld.com
Yeah but the point isn't that technical people know it's bullshit, the point is putting enough of a spin on describing it that the laymen that continue to buy into this nonsense think it's some wave of the future innovative cock-knockery that they've never seen before.
You bring up FIFO stacks to some dude that doesn't know about electronics beyond "swipe to unlock" and they'll look at you like "fucking nerd". You tell them something like "this thing's already recording before you even press the button, so you won't miss a moment of the action!" and they'll stare wide-eyed at you like "holy shit, that's amazing!"
I figured it was this after I was done talking to the Apple guy and I thought about it on my own, but he made it sound like it was time-magic during our conversation so I just didn't believe it was actually doing that.
Anyway I'm with quid on the title I had a hearty chuckle.
Wait.
I feel like someone was doing it wrong here but I can't tell who....