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PWG puts on best show of the year, surprising no one [WRESTLING]

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    Sweeney TomSweeney Tom Registered User regular
    edited November 2015
    If something's entertainingly bad, it's fun to discuss

    If it's not, I try to avoid it unless it's people asking about general thoughts about things (state of the company [awful], HHH [awful], historically shit segments like Rusev/Dolph [awful]), but still acknowledge discussion of bad when bad is present is necessary. Not frequently, but when stuff happens; main reason I was so pro-discussion and rejection of the Reid segment [awful]. Horrible or shitty stuff shouldn't be brushed aside, because that goes against the very thing facetious was talking about in his first paragraph

    It's become much harder for even the most optimistic person to not have more complaints than positives about WWE, and if it seems like it's talked about a lot here, it's only because honestly, mostly, it feels like one has to talk about WWE here. Even though it's the wrestling thread, barely any other promotions get watched/talked about frequently. It took Asuka's signing for joshi to even get real discussion and love shown here, just as a recent major example. There's the occasional lolTNA or ROHtalk or New Japan talk or now RIPlucha or in January WatchLU talk or discussion/comments, but that's 2% at best of the average 100-page wrestling thread (of which there are a lot in one year)

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    LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    This is not a spoiler, but a programming note for SmackDown that should make anyone feel a little more positive:

    Kevin Owens is on commentary for the main event.

    Happy Thanksgiving.

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    wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited November 2015
    Kilroy wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    I mean I can get some catharsis out of ranting about something I really dislike but for the most part, absolutely

    oh sure, I can get behind an occassional rant

    but the kind of constant railing against wwe that goes on in other spaces that talk about wrestling sounds exhausting to me

    I think the big difference of our group is we genuinely want WWE to improve and get frustrated when they fuck up. And the reality is they're helmed by a bully with a horrible world view who seemingly has no desire to improve or listen to a large number of his paying customers, the latter of which is finally starting to drive away fans in droves.

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    KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    I'm pretty sure that JOSHI GIFS was a thing long before asuka signed

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    wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    Dammit we need Bryan back.

    I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU!!!
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    Dyvim TvarDyvim Tvar Registered User regular
    We should all just talk about Progress and how amazing Jimmy Havoc's title reign was.

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    wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    OH MY SHIT I'M GOING TO MEET ALL OF NEW DAY IN JANUARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU!!!
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    HjorvarthrHjorvarthr Registered User regular
    edited November 2015
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH9FCTJjPPs

    The Metal vs. Metal Gear

    a fan-freaking-tastic match in every way

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    Dyvim TvarDyvim Tvar Registered User regular
    exist wrote: »
    that heath slater and curtis axel get ANY sort of praise tbh

    I WILL FIGHT YOU ON THE FUCKING MOON!

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    MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    Whenever WWE starts sucking I don't complain about it, I just watch more not WWE stuff. I have a shit ton of Indy matches marked as watch later on youtube, as well as so many shows on NJPWworld to watch. There's always good wrestling to watch so unless WWE does something so bad that it has to be commented on how shitty that was, I just mumble about it being disappointing and focus on good wrestling elsewhere.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Diiiiirt Sheeeeetz Ruuuumor

    I guess PWI says the final nail in the coffin of Brad Maddox being released was that he called either the audience or his opponents, it wasn't clear in the article, "cocky pricks" in a promo before his Smackdown dark match and they did not approve of his language.

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    XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWCMv1bSopo

    I just need more of this and I'm cool with Survivor Series

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    PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    The obnoxious thing about WWE releasing Brad Maddox is that he's another guy who I bet will show up at various indies like Sydal and Hawkins and Trent and have amazing matches that would help WWE's product.

    ...and why doesn't WWE use these guys?

    Just because.

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    MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    So to back that up here are some of my favorite wrestling matches from youtube.

    WWE's newest signee La Sombra vs. Swagsuke

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayNOkRmnXhw&index=16&list=PL2D41A688FCF27211

    Naomichi Marafuji vs. KENTA (Hideo Itami)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQI_ckSUHEQ&index=3&list=PL2D41A688FCF27211

    Raven vs. Jimmy Jacobs (This one I saw live so it has an unfair advantage)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUfb31KAo2c&index=38&list=FLWL5ZYCMRwcnIRrn3QzjKxg

    Alex Shelley vs. Chris Hero (I haven't watched this one, but this is put up by SmartMarkVideo and their channel has lots of free matches to watch)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujFhKP6reM4&index=18&list=PLBEA41A09D6F2783A

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    XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    when your boss has to be beat in an arm wrestling contest by you to think you are worth pushing

    that's when you know you're fucked

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited November 2015
    Hahahahahahaha oh my god Michael Cole coming in and saying WWE made him book Bayley vs. Eva is genius

    Like wow that could not be a better set up

    Hahaha and the bit about wanting to introduce Joe first and hyping him up

    Michael Cole is the best Evil Corporate GM we could ask for

    HOLY SHIT THE SIGNING

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    ChillyWillyChillyWilly Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Diiiiirt Sheeeeetz Ruuuumor

    I guess PWI says the final nail in the coffin of Brad Maddox being released was that he called either the audience or his opponents, it wasn't clear in the article, "cocky pricks" in a promo before his Smackdown dark match and they did not approve of his language.

    If this is actually true, just...c'mon.

    It seems pretty obvious that they didn't want him on the roster for whatever reason and just chose this as the excuse.


    JBL did a fucking Nazi salute and a goose step at a live event and nothing (that I'm aware of) happened to him. Sure, that was over a decade ok, but still. Calling someone a prick is such a nothing comment.

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    Sweeney TomSweeney Tom Registered User regular
    He called the crowd cocky pricks, and it was mentioned in a couple live reports for Main Event (his dark promo/match were around that point). He ad-libbed it, it wasn't scripted, he isn't the boss (Vince came out and ad-libbed a promo ridiculing the fans in London last year for being quiet for the whole show, comparing them to Ebola at one point), and he was already stuck doing nothing else before, so yeah, that was his last "fuckup". RIP Rad Ox. Then. Now. Forever.

    Fav wrestling matches that aren't WWE, 2015 Edition:
    Shinsuke Nakamura vs Kota Ibushi
    Okada vs AJ Styles
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qlZDA4V-0g (Mil Muertes vs Fenix)
    Zack Sabre Jr vs Ricochet (BOLA)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrM9K3sq8bU (Pentagon Jr vs Bestia 666)

    Have a lot more than that, but if I had to limit it to just 5, that's it for this year. Stellar year for non-WWE

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    XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    if NXT can make Cole this entertaining then perhaps it should be the flagship show

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    (cole is good)

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    NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    AJR wrote: »
    I think the most sensible thing people could do is fly down to Perth, Australia and watch me beat up three other men to win the Art of Fighting championship this weekend.

    Can you hurry up and get booked in PWG so I can be the person in the crowd most obviously flipping the fuck out over everything you do?

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    XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    I mean I knew he had it in him

    (seriously hoping he just got to do what he wanted)

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    SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    (cole is good)

    I disagree.

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    Schide wrote: »
    (cole is good)

    I disagree.

    okay, let's fight

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    SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    Schide wrote: »
    (cole is good)

    I disagree.

    okay, let's fight

    okay

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    XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    I'll fight 'em

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    i'll take you all on

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited November 2015
    I just don't really understand this booking with the Vaudevillians

    Like Dawson and Wilder are definitely good and while I do like surprise upsets, it's a little weird to have a lower tier heel tag team kinda come out of nowhere and win after they did that with Blake and Murphy

    Plus the Vaudevillians are fan favorites and have been around for quite a while and giving them a run of only 3 months seems kinda shitty and underwhelming

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Oh I guess it's because they want to set up Enzo and Cass right now

    Which like

    Yeah okay sure obviously I'm cool with that

    But poor Vaudevillians

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    SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    The Vaudevillains are probably turning heel again soon.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Schide wrote: »
    The Vaudevillains are probably turning heel again soon.
    Makes sense, so they can feud with Cass and Enzo

    But they never really worked that well as heels for me. Their gimmick is so inherently goofy and fun that it is hard to not cheer them. Like I get they're the Vaudevillians but they never really felt like bad guys to me

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Wait holy shit what

    We actually got a fucking Elias Samson: Guitar Drifter vignette

    Incroyable

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    OKAY I KNOW THIS IS A TRIPLE POST SO I AM SORRY BUT OH MY GOD THAT SAMI RETURN PACKAGE I'M SO HAPPY I'M SO HAPPY

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    Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
    NXT always makes me happy.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    That main event was so good

    That episode of NXT was exactly what I needed to wash the taste of Raw out

    Excellent work

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    NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    YO WHY THE FUCK DID NONE OF Y'ALL TELL ME WWE IS MAKING SUPPORTERS SCARVES AND ONE OF THEM IS FOR KEVIN OWENS?!?

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    That Brie Mode scarf is actually pretty great.

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    NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    Ok so I'm catching up on NXT and this Samoa Joe/Balor confrontation to end the episode totally fits into my current headcanon. How?

    1. 5 refs went to the ring to try and stand between both guys, and at first I was confused why Finn got 3 refs yelling at him and Joe only had 2, but then I realized Drake Younger was one of the two refs.

    2. How does Joe create an opening to attack Finn? By taking out the only person who could stop him first: Drake Younger.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Wasn't Charles Robinson the shitty corrupt ref HHH used at Wrestlemania 30 too?

    I like him being the Corporate Ref in canon

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    KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Wasn't Charles Robinson the shitty corrupt ref HHH used at Wrestlemania 30 too?

    I like him being the Corporate Ref in canon

    no, that was scott armstrong

    charles robinson is little naitch

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