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Bill Clinton was the Triangulator. Hillary was always acknowledged as a liberal advisor of his. Just because they share a last name doesn't mean they share a hivemind.
I can't help but wonder whether pizzagate started just a bit too close to the election, so that people heard enough about it to know that there was another breaking Clinton "scandal" but not enough to realise that it was complete and utter bullshit.
It just seems like such an eminently falsifiable claim. Like saying, Hilary is actually 3 inches tall, or a chicken. It's a pizza restaurant. It's never had any relationship at all to pedophilia. It has no secret tunnels filled with children. It's literally making a large amount of tasty pizza. You can go eat the pizza, its good. You can see the people there, eating the pizza. They will tell you they are enjoying it. Many of them are there with their children, their LITERAL SONS AND DAUGHTERS, eating the damn pizza.
Bill Clinton was the Triangulator. Hillary was always acknowledged as a liberal advisor of his. Just because they share a last name doesn't mean they share a hivemind.
Triangulation was a primary method for politics revolving around the centrist/DLC philosophy. Bill and Hillary were among that movement's founders. Hillary did the same thing, though not all centrists do this identically.
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It just seems like such an eminently falsifiable claim. Like saying, Hilary is actually 3 inches tall, or a chicken. It's a pizza restaurant. It's never had any relationship at all to pedophilia. It has no secret tunnels filled with children. It's literally making a large amount of tasty pizza. You can go eat the pizza, its good. You can see the people there, eating the pizza. They will tell you they are enjoying it. Many of them are there with their children, their LITERAL SONS AND DAUGHTERS, eating the damn pizza.
Seriously, it's not like it's a Chuck E. Cheese or something.
I can't help but wonder whether pizzagate started just a bit too close to the election, so that people heard enough about it to know that there was another breaking Clinton "scandal" but not enough to realise that it was complete and utter bullshit.
I mean...all of the "scandals" were complete and utter bullshit?
Bill Clinton was the Triangulator. Hillary was always acknowledged as a liberal advisor of his. Just because they share a last name doesn't mean they share a hivemind.
US Presidents make up a surprising solid superhero team:
Bill "The Triangulator" Clinton - team tactician
George W. "The Decider" Bush - team leader
Barack "The Islamic Shock" Obama* - the muscle (nicknamed Super Allah Master Force in the manga)
Donald "Tiny hands' Trump - comic sidekick
Now, let's be fair here. There's voices within the Dems defending Ellison from these smears. But let's be honest, Ellison's bid for DNC leadership is dead in the water since "the Dems have bills to pay for".
The ADL is the best argument against dual-citizenship I know about
In all fairness, with the massive amount of stuff Operation Yewtree had over here with the on-going repercussions still felt with it now reaching into the FA:
Prepare for dark times; the amount of organised child abuse, turning a blind eye and actively facilitating I don't believe was unique to the Catholic Church and the UK during the 70s/80s.
It's not going to be a partisan issue (Ye gods don't let him do that), but it is still going to be brutal.
There's a huge pedophilia scandal about the UK government right now (not the current one, the '80s) and they didn't bother with elaborate codes and crap. Just private parties and powerful people willing to cover up anything embarrassing. The sad thing is that there are probably politicians in the USA using their power to abuse children, but Republicans would probably be disappointed that the pedos won't perfectly coincide with their favourite bête noirs - there was a minor scandal recently as obscure former Republican speaker, Dennis Hastert, was discovered to be a pedophile.
hint: try to get someone less than seventy years old
Ha! Like we have anyone that young. If we did they'd be making themselves a name by serving as a rallying point against Donald Trump. We don't even have a leader for the DNC at the moment and we have no plan to take back the country's state legislatures and governorships. I am starting to fucking hate the Democratic Party. There has never been such a useless party in the entirety of history.
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In all fairness, with the massive amount of stuff Operation Yewtree had over here with the on-going repercussions still felt with it now reaching into the FA:
Prepare for dark times; the amount of organised child abuse, turning a blind eye and actively facilitating I don't believe was unique to the Catholic Church and the UK during the 70s/80s.
It's not going to be a partisan issue (Ye gods don't let him do that), but it is still going to be brutal.
Now, let's be fair here. There's voices within the Dems defending Ellison from these smears. But let's be honest, Ellison's bid for DNC leadership is dead in the water since "the Dems have bills to pay for".
The ADL is the best argument against dual-citizenship I know about
In all fairness, with the massive amount of stuff Operation Yewtree had over here with the on-going repercussions still felt with it now reaching into the FA:
Prepare for dark times; the amount of organised child abuse, turning a blind eye and actively facilitating I don't believe was unique to the Catholic Church and the UK during the 70s/80s.
It's not going to be a partisan issue (Ye gods don't let him do that), but it is still going to be brutal.
While I doubt it's constrained I don't see how you can say anything is "coming down the pipe" as it were.
We had Epstein(sp?) and that didn't hurt trump any
hint: try to get someone less than seventy years old
Ha! Like we have anyone that young. If we did they'd be making themselves a name by serving as a rallying point against Donald Trump.
It's not like there's any shortage of Dems attacking Trump, and plans for 2020 are already in motion.
Like, right now my tentative support is for Sen Gillibrand, and she's already been making connections with donors and operatives. She hasn't made some big media-centric power play yet, no, but the media already has more than enough to talk about during the transition, and they don't really care about having a train of Dem politicians come on and say "I don't like Trump!" "I too don't like Trump!" "I refuse to back Trump's cabinet nominations because I also don't like Trump!" They might bring up someone like Warren or Sanders who have already achieved fame, but that's about it.
It just seems like such an eminently falsifiable claim. Like saying, Hilary is actually 3 inches tall, or a chicken. It's a pizza restaurant. It's never had any relationship at all to pedophilia. It has no secret tunnels filled with children. It's literally making a large amount of tasty pizza. You can go eat the pizza, its good. You can see the people there, eating the pizza. They will tell you they are enjoying it. Many of them are there with their children, their LITERAL SONS AND DAUGHTERS, eating the damn pizza.
Seriously, it's not like it's a Chuck E. Cheese or something.
Hey now. Chuck E. Cheese has no connection to pedophilia. They are too busy getting your kids addicted to gambling to bother with anything else.
hint: try to get someone less than seventy years old
Ha! Like we have anyone that young. If we did they'd be making themselves a name by serving as a rallying point against Donald Trump.
It's not like there's any shortage of Dems attacking Trump, and plans for 2020 are already in motion.
Like, right now my tentative support is for Sen Gillibrand, and she's already been making connections with donors and operatives. She hasn't made some big media-centric power play yet, no, but the media already has more than enough to talk about during the transition, and they don't really care about having a train of Dem politicians come on and say "I don't like Trump!" "I too don't like Trump!" "I refuse to back Trump's cabinet nominations because I also don't like Trump!" They might bring up someone like Warren or Sanders who have already achieved fame, but that's about it.
And that's exactly what I mean when I say that we need to "win" the war on the media. We need to fill the air time with the false equivalency to actively counter Connway, Pierson, and Mr. 'says who'.
The election of the next president is not yet a done deal. Electors of conscience can still do the right thing for the good of the country. Presidential electors have the legal right and a constitutional duty to vote their conscience.
hint: try to get someone less than seventy years old
Ha! Like we have anyone that young. If we did they'd be making themselves a name by serving as a rallying point against Donald Trump.
It's not like there's any shortage of Dems attacking Trump, and plans for 2020 are already in motion.
Like, right now my tentative support is for Sen Gillibrand, and she's already been making connections with donors and operatives. She hasn't made some big media-centric power play yet, no, but the media already has more than enough to talk about during the transition, and they don't really care about having a train of Dem politicians come on and say "I don't like Trump!" "I too don't like Trump!" "I refuse to back Trump's cabinet nominations because I also don't like Trump!" They might bring up someone like Warren or Sanders who have already achieved fame, but that's about it.
And that's exactly what I mean when I say that we need to "win" the war on the media. We need to fill the air time with the false equivalency to actively counter Connway, Pierson, and Mr. 'says who'.
That's not really up to the Democratic Party.
I'm sure Dems would love to fill up the airwaves. I'll bet that the host of senators and governors and the lower ranking hoi poilloi would all love to be on TV 24/7. But it's not as easy as just taking a drive up to Fox News in NYC and hopping on with a sympathetic host for a few hours.
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The election of the next president is not yet a done deal. Electors of conscience can still do the right thing for the good of the country. Presidential electors have the legal right and a constitutional duty to vote their conscience.
If he actually loses because of the EC...man, I don't even know where to begin.
hint: try to get someone less than seventy years old
Ha! Like we have anyone that young. If we did they'd be making themselves a name by serving as a rallying point against Donald Trump.
It's not like there's any shortage of Dems attacking Trump, and plans for 2020 are already in motion.
Like, right now my tentative support is for Sen Gillibrand, and she's already been making connections with donors and operatives. She hasn't made some big media-centric power play yet, no, but the media already has more than enough to talk about during the transition, and they don't really care about having a train of Dem politicians come on and say "I don't like Trump!" "I too don't like Trump!" "I refuse to back Trump's cabinet nominations because I also don't like Trump!" They might bring up someone like Warren or Sanders who have already achieved fame, but that's about it.
The problem is that all the prominent ones are old as fuck.
Where are our Rubios, Scott Walkers, John Kasichs, and the like. You would expect the Democratic party to do what the conservatives did and start mass mobilizing. The Tea Party was born within one year of Obama's inauguration.
One. Year.
And those who were savvy could probably start to seeds crop up the two months before his inauguration. Thousands of political offices were filled on the backs of this movement. Cantor and his ilk got in stepping on Tea Party votes. Bright young Republicans swooped in to create the climate we have now.
hint: try to get someone less than seventy years old
Ha! Like we have anyone that young. If we did they'd be making themselves a name by serving as a rallying point against Donald Trump.
It's not like there's any shortage of Dems attacking Trump, and plans for 2020 are already in motion.
Like, right now my tentative support is for Sen Gillibrand, and she's already been making connections with donors and operatives. She hasn't made some big media-centric power play yet, no, but the media already has more than enough to talk about during the transition, and they don't really care about having a train of Dem politicians come on and say "I don't like Trump!" "I too don't like Trump!" "I refuse to back Trump's cabinet nominations because I also don't like Trump!" They might bring up someone like Warren or Sanders who have already achieved fame, but that's about it.
And that's exactly what I mean when I say that we need to "win" the war on the media. We need to fill the air time with the false equivalency to actively counter Connway, Pierson, and Mr. 'says who'.
That's not really up to the Democratic Party.
I'm sure Dems would love to fill up the airwaves. I'll bet that the host of senators and governors and the lower ranking hoi poilloi would all love to be on TV 24/7. But it's not as easy as just taking a drive up to Fox News in NYC and hopping on with a sympathetic host for a few hours.
Sure they don't have a fox equivalent, which is a completely separate and very important issue that they need to work on, but I was talking more about the braindead "equal time" panel shows on CNN and the like. Can you guys even name a single one of the dems on the other side of those roundtables?
The election of the next president is not yet a done deal. Electors of conscience can still do the right thing for the good of the country. Presidential electors have the legal right and a constitutional duty to vote their conscience.
If he actually loses because of the EC...man, I don't even know where to begin.
Tensions are already high.
It would be a massive shitshow, and likely worse than if we just put up with (hopefully only) four years of Trump.
The election of the next president is not yet a done deal. Electors of conscience can still do the right thing for the good of the country. Presidential electors have the legal right and a constitutional duty to vote their conscience.
If he actually loses because of the EC...man, I don't even know where to begin.
Tensions are already high.
I mean, who would win? I actually don't know what happens (other than civil unrest and riots, presumably), what if he sticks with like 200~ votes, Hillary has more, and Kasich picks up the rest somehow? Does Hillary win? Does it go to the Senate?
The election of the next president is not yet a done deal. Electors of conscience can still do the right thing for the good of the country. Presidential electors have the legal right and a constitutional duty to vote their conscience.
If he actually loses because of the EC...man, I don't even know where to begin.
Tensions are already high.
I mean, who would win? I actually don't know what happens (other than civil unrest and riots, presumably), what if he sticks with like 200~ votes, Hillary has more, and Kasich picks up the rest somehow? Does Hillary win? Does it go to the Senate?
hint: try to get someone less than seventy years old
Ha! Like we have anyone that young. If we did they'd be making themselves a name by serving as a rallying point against Donald Trump.
It's not like there's any shortage of Dems attacking Trump, and plans for 2020 are already in motion.
Like, right now my tentative support is for Sen Gillibrand, and she's already been making connections with donors and operatives. She hasn't made some big media-centric power play yet, no, but the media already has more than enough to talk about during the transition, and they don't really care about having a train of Dem politicians come on and say "I don't like Trump!" "I too don't like Trump!" "I refuse to back Trump's cabinet nominations because I also don't like Trump!" They might bring up someone like Warren or Sanders who have already achieved fame, but that's about it.
The problem is that all the prominent ones are old as fuck.
Where are our Rubios, Scott Walkers, John Kasichs, and the like. You would expect the Democratic party to do what the conservatives did and start mass mobilizing. The Tea Party was born within one year of Obama's inauguration.
One. Year.
And those who were savvy could probably start to seeds crop up the two months before his inauguration. Thousands of political offices were filled on the backs of this movement. Cantor and his ilk got in stepping on Tea Party votes. Bright young Republicans swooped in to create the climate we have now.
I have seen no equivalent of this on the left.
That's because you're not looking. There's Brand New Congress and Our Revolution, two Sanders-associated organizations that are dedicated to churning out new talent. A friend of mine has gotten involved with EmergeVA, one of a group of Emerge organizations dedicated to training and electing new Democratic women. Last night I received a call from (and donated to) the DSCC; the theme of the call was about building up a war chest to help attract new Democrats for the 2018 races. My local Dem party has gotten aggressive about interviewing for local races and party positions. There are a host of these operations.
If they threw it to the house it would doubtlessly go to Trump. Folks would need to switch their vote to Hillary. Which they could justify given the large margin she received in the popular vote.
The election of the next president is not yet a done deal. Electors of conscience can still do the right thing for the good of the country. Presidential electors have the legal right and a constitutional duty to vote their conscience.
If he actually loses because of the EC...man, I don't even know where to begin.
Tensions are already high.
I mean, who would win? I actually don't know what happens (other than civil unrest and riots, presumably), what if he sticks with like 200~ votes, Hillary has more, and Kasich picks up the rest somehow? Does Hillary win? Does it go to the Senate?
If no one received an outright majority, the incoming House votes by state delegation, 26 required to win.
hint: try to get someone less than seventy years old
Ha! Like we have anyone that young. If we did they'd be making themselves a name by serving as a rallying point against Donald Trump.
It's not like there's any shortage of Dems attacking Trump, and plans for 2020 are already in motion.
Like, right now my tentative support is for Sen Gillibrand, and she's already been making connections with donors and operatives. She hasn't made some big media-centric power play yet, no, but the media already has more than enough to talk about during the transition, and they don't really care about having a train of Dem politicians come on and say "I don't like Trump!" "I too don't like Trump!" "I refuse to back Trump's cabinet nominations because I also don't like Trump!" They might bring up someone like Warren or Sanders who have already achieved fame, but that's about it.
The problem is that all the prominent ones are old as fuck.
Where are our Rubios, Scott Walkers, John Kasichs, and the like. You would expect the Democratic party to do what the conservatives did and start mass mobilizing. The Tea Party was born within one year of Obama's inauguration.
One. Year.
And those who were savvy could probably start to seeds crop up the two months before his inauguration. Thousands of political offices were filled on the backs of this movement. Cantor and his ilk got in stepping on Tea Party votes. Bright young Republicans swooped in to create the climate we have now.
I have seen no equivalent of this on the left.
That's because you're not looking. There's Brand New Congress and Our Revolution, two Sanders-associated organizations that are dedicated to churning out new talent. A friend of mine has gotten involved with EmergeVA, one of a group of Emerge organizations dedicated to training and electing new Democratic women. Last night I received a call from (and donated to) the DSCC; the theme of the call was about building up a war chest to help attract new Democrats for the 2018 races. My local Dem party has gotten aggressive about interviewing for local races and party positions. There are a host of these operations.
Not Democrats - Democratic women. No thanks men, identity politics more important than electoral politics.
This is exactly the sort of thing that prevents a Dem Tea Party.
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There were brief mentions even here about it. It started during the e-mail leak stuff.
But its so clearly dumb on the surface it never got traction.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
It just seems like such an eminently falsifiable claim. Like saying, Hilary is actually 3 inches tall, or a chicken. It's a pizza restaurant. It's never had any relationship at all to pedophilia. It has no secret tunnels filled with children. It's literally making a large amount of tasty pizza. You can go eat the pizza, its good. You can see the people there, eating the pizza. They will tell you they are enjoying it. Many of them are there with their children, their LITERAL SONS AND DAUGHTERS, eating the damn pizza.
Triangulation was a primary method for politics revolving around the centrist/DLC philosophy. Bill and Hillary were among that movement's founders. Hillary did the same thing, though not all centrists do this identically.
Seriously, it's not like it's a Chuck E. Cheese or something.
Is this really gaining traction?
US Presidents make up a surprising solid superhero team:
Bill "The Triangulator" Clinton - team tactician
George W. "The Decider" Bush - team leader
Barack "The Islamic Shock" Obama* - the muscle (nicknamed Super Allah Master Force in the manga)
Donald "Tiny hands' Trump - comic sidekick
Only because it's in the news due to the shooting.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
But he'll be like 78
I'm sorry, but what?
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In all fairness, with the massive amount of stuff Operation Yewtree had over here with the on-going repercussions still felt with it now reaching into the FA:
Prepare for dark times; the amount of organised child abuse, turning a blind eye and actively facilitating I don't believe was unique to the Catholic Church and the UK during the 70s/80s.
It's not going to be a partisan issue (Ye gods don't let him do that), but it is still going to be brutal.
The wealthy live long.
democrats should be thinking about this now
hint: try to get someone less than seventy years old
Ha! Like we have anyone that young. If we did they'd be making themselves a name by serving as a rallying point against Donald Trump. We don't even have a leader for the DNC at the moment and we have no plan to take back the country's state legislatures and governorships. I am starting to fucking hate the Democratic Party. There has never been such a useless party in the entirety of history.
While I doubt it's constrained I don't see how you can say anything is "coming down the pipe" as it were.
We had Epstein(sp?) and that didn't hurt trump any
It's not like there's any shortage of Dems attacking Trump, and plans for 2020 are already in motion.
Like, right now my tentative support is for Sen Gillibrand, and she's already been making connections with donors and operatives. She hasn't made some big media-centric power play yet, no, but the media already has more than enough to talk about during the transition, and they don't really care about having a train of Dem politicians come on and say "I don't like Trump!" "I too don't like Trump!" "I refuse to back Trump's cabinet nominations because I also don't like Trump!" They might bring up someone like Warren or Sanders who have already achieved fame, but that's about it.
Hey now. Chuck E. Cheese has no connection to pedophilia. They are too busy getting your kids addicted to gambling to bother with anything else.
And that's exactly what I mean when I say that we need to "win" the war on the media. We need to fill the air time with the false equivalency to actively counter Connway, Pierson, and Mr. 'says who'.
That's not really up to the Democratic Party.
I'm sure Dems would love to fill up the airwaves. I'll bet that the host of senators and governors and the lower ranking hoi poilloi would all love to be on TV 24/7. But it's not as easy as just taking a drive up to Fox News in NYC and hopping on with a sympathetic host for a few hours.
If he actually loses because of the EC...man, I don't even know where to begin.
Tensions are already high.
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The problem is that all the prominent ones are old as fuck.
Where are our Rubios, Scott Walkers, John Kasichs, and the like. You would expect the Democratic party to do what the conservatives did and start mass mobilizing. The Tea Party was born within one year of Obama's inauguration.
One. Year.
And those who were savvy could probably start to seeds crop up the two months before his inauguration. Thousands of political offices were filled on the backs of this movement. Cantor and his ilk got in stepping on Tea Party votes. Bright young Republicans swooped in to create the climate we have now.
I have seen no equivalent of this on the left.
Sure they don't have a fox equivalent, which is a completely separate and very important issue that they need to work on, but I was talking more about the braindead "equal time" panel shows on CNN and the like. Can you guys even name a single one of the dems on the other side of those roundtables?
It would be a massive shitshow, and likely worse than if we just put up with (hopefully only) four years of Trump.
I mean, who would win? I actually don't know what happens (other than civil unrest and riots, presumably), what if he sticks with like 200~ votes, Hillary has more, and Kasich picks up the rest somehow? Does Hillary win? Does it go to the Senate?
Goes to the House.
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That's because you're not looking. There's Brand New Congress and Our Revolution, two Sanders-associated organizations that are dedicated to churning out new talent. A friend of mine has gotten involved with EmergeVA, one of a group of Emerge organizations dedicated to training and electing new Democratic women. Last night I received a call from (and donated to) the DSCC; the theme of the call was about building up a war chest to help attract new Democrats for the 2018 races. My local Dem party has gotten aggressive about interviewing for local races and party positions. There are a host of these operations.
If no one received an outright majority, the incoming House votes by state delegation, 26 required to win.
Not Democrats - Democratic women. No thanks men, identity politics more important than electoral politics.
This is exactly the sort of thing that prevents a Dem Tea Party.
There are a host of these operations?
There should be one operation per state.