I don't think it's entirely impossible we don't see a counselor offline mode, even if it's just the dumb AI Jason they were worried about releasing. Enough people seem to be requesting it on the internet that they might eventually put something out. I've seen rumors that it's the morph ability that's holding them back or something? I dunno... I'm sure coding it is a nightmare, but maybe they could just give AI Jason a morph with no cooldown and a larger range for his passive ability to sense counselors.
Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
I'd like to know if the devs have any plans for a sequel. This (ironically) doesn't feel like a game that needs one, but Friday the 13th! Maybe they have plans for Nightmare on Elm Street?
I'd like to know if the devs have any plans for a sequel. This (ironically) doesn't feel like a game that needs one, but Friday the 13th! Maybe they have plans for Nightmare on Elm Street?
Jason X DLC is in the works I believe. There's some more maps they could do too, I think. The ship from part 8, perhaps even Times Square? Not sure how Times Square would work though... The only thing I can think of is needing to power up an old subway car to get away. Call the cops would work too, I guess.
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Freddy was licensed to Dead By Daylight a competitor, doubtful he'll show up in f13.
I meant a proper NoeS game.
I'm looking forward to the Grendel map, kind of eh on Uber Jason though. He'll have to be humorously OP to do that version any justice. Guessing Manhattan would involve the sewers somehow.
I'd like to know if the devs have any plans for a sequel. This (ironically) doesn't feel like a game that needs one, but Friday the 13th! Maybe they have plans for Nightmare on Elm Street?
Jason X DLC is in the works I believe. There's some more maps they could do too, I think. The ship from part 8, perhaps even Times Square? Not sure how Times Square would work though... The only thing I can think of is needing to power up an old subway car to get away. Call the cops would work too, I guess.
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If you complete all of the Cabin. When you open the final door and it opens up into The Grendal and when you open a door, Uber Jason X stomps through and stabs you with a machete
There was also talks about putting in Pamela or Roy from Part 5. But I also heard rumors that they were going to make a Trouble In Terrorist Town style game mode called Paranoia. Seemed like everyone would play counselors and one person is the killer. So lots of betrayal and instilling panic. Battle Chads with permanent Chad faces as fellow Chads are found dead in their Chad Thongs.
Freddy was licensed to Dead By Daylight a competitor, doubtful he'll show up in f13.
I meant a proper NoeS game.
I'm looking forward to the Grendel map, kind of eh on Uber Jason though. He'll have to be humorously OP to do that version any justice. Guessing Manhattan would involve the sewers somehow.
I'm hoping Uber Jason can smash through doors and walls in one hit. Maybe not on the Grendel, but on the other maps it'd be neat.
Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
I don't think it's entirely impossible we don't see a counselor offline mode, even if it's just the dumb AI Jason they were worried about releasing. Enough people seem to be requesting it on the internet that they might eventually put something out. I've seen rumors that it's the morph ability that's holding them back or something? I dunno... I'm sure coding it is a nightmare, but maybe they could just give AI Jason a morph with no cooldown and a larger range for his passive ability to sense counselors.
I don’t see what is insurmountable about writing an AI for Jason, aside from Gun being a small team and not having the time / money to pull it off.
I imagine Gun has the money, but not the experience. They've made an enjoyable game, top five of the year for me, but some of the missteps show their inexperience. I mean, it's an online game and they didn't anticipate hosts rage quitting.
I dunno if Pamela was the best, but I'd love to see her added. Maybe they could record some little kid lines so that when you play as her, Jason is the one talking in her head.
"Kill her! Kill her, mommy!"
Edit: Or just have the Pamela VA record those lines, so it's like the first movie and she's crazy talking to herself.
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How would Pamela even work? I've seen people request floating head Pamela as well, which, just, boggles mind.
I mean, why the hell not? It's a story about a crazed zombie who wants to murder all the children and young adults at his lakeside camp site. Go all out, floating head sounds awesome.
How would Pamela even work? I've seen people request floating head Pamela as well, which, just, boggles mind.
I mean, why the hell not? It's a story about a crazed zombie who wants to murder all the children and young adults at his lakeside camp site. Go all out, floating head sounds awesome.
Plus it's another great homage to the great NES game. But there's no reason to not just use a Pamela skin. Honestly, that's the only way we'd ever get her anyway; they're not going to do the extra work to make it an actual makes-sense-within-context mode. I mean they'd have to design a second "kill Pamela" system, change Tommy to Alice, and give her a few slightly different powers since she relied on stealth and surprise rather than strength and endless constitution. And considering how amazingly sexist the average fan of F13 is, it's not worth the effort.
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How would Pamela even work? I've seen people request floating head Pamela as well, which, just, boggles mind.
I mean, why the hell not? It's a story about a crazed zombie who wants to murder all the children and young adults at his lakeside camp site. Go all out, floating head sounds awesome.
Plus it's another great homage to the great NES game. But there's no reason to not just use a Pamela skin. Honestly, that's the only way we'd ever get her anyway; they're not going to do the extra work to make it an actual makes-sense-within-context mode. I mean they'd have to design a second "kill Pamela" system, change Tommy to Alice, and give her a few slightly different powers since she relied on stealth and surprise rather than strength and endless constitution. And considering how amazingly sexist the average fan of F13 is, it's not worth the effort.
Maybe 'great' isn't the best word for that NES game, but I enjoyed it too. :biggrin:
She didn't even rely on stealth that much. Most of her victims just had their guard down because she was a normal looking lady. Hell, the head counselor even asks what she is doing out there. None of the Jason abilities would really apply to her, she wasn't durable at all, at best she'd be a counselor skin. Going against her would essentially be easy mode.
How would Pamela even work? I've seen people request floating head Pamela as well, which, just, boggles mind.
I mean, why the hell not? It's a story about a crazed zombie who wants to murder all the children and young adults at his lakeside camp site. Go all out, floating head sounds awesome.
Correction there, Koopah, Jason never killed kids. And he wasn't a Zombie until part VI. Do you even Friday the 13th, bro???
How would Pamela even work? I've seen people request floating head Pamela as well, which, just, boggles mind.
I mean, why the hell not? It's a story about a crazed zombie who wants to murder all the children and young adults at his lakeside camp site. Go all out, floating head sounds awesome.
Correction there, Koopah, Jason never killed kids. And he wasn't a Zombie until part VI. Do you even Friday the 13th, bro???
Oh, I guess you're right. In the NES game he does.
And also, really? Isn't he a Zombie like immediately? He got drowned, as in dead, as a kid, but he's not considered a Zombie until 6?
The whole thing is supposed to be like a campfire ghost story, so the truth gets muddled a bit. Jason is very much not dead in part II. He's a literal zombie in part 6 cuz he's dead (and for some reason just buried in his jumpsuit and mask...) but then Tommy Jarvis stabs the corpse with a piece of a gate, which then gets struck by lightning and reanimates him into a super zombie.
And if you treat part 9 as "canon" then "Jason" is actually a gross poop demon slug that lives in the heart and is spit into a new body when the need arises. But otherwise is immortal and can only be killed by another Voorhees.
Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
How would Pamela even work? I've seen people request floating head Pamela as well, which, just, boggles mind.
I mean, why the hell not? It's a story about a crazed zombie who wants to murder all the children and young adults at his lakeside camp site. Go all out, floating head sounds awesome.
Correction there, Koopah, Jason never killed kids. And he wasn't a Zombie until part VI. Do you even Friday the 13th, bro???
Oh, I guess you're right. In the NES game he does.
And also, really? Isn't he a Zombie like immediately? He got drowned, as in dead, as a kid, but he's not considered a Zombie until 6?
No body, not dead. You know the trope Koopah.
Jason is a living breathing human in II, III, and IV.
Roy Burns in V.
Zombie Jason in VI, VII, VIII.
IX Jason is a body jumping demon slug.
X introduces the idea that Jason heals and regenerates with time, like a slow powered Wolverine, so he is 80/20 human-zombie.
Interesting side note: The director of Jason Goes to Hell said he was trying to make it canon that Pamela used the Necronomicon to bring Jason back as a deadite. Which explains why it made an appearance in the movie. The studio said no, and they didn't have the rights.
The whole thing is supposed to be like a campfire ghost story, so the truth gets muddled a bit. Jason is very much not dead in part II. He's a literal zombie in part 6 cuz he's dead (and for some reason just buried in his jumpsuit and mask...) but then Tommy Jarvis stabs the corpse with a piece of a gate, which then gets struck by lightning and reanimates him into a super zombie.
And if you treat part 9 as "canon" then "Jason" is actually a gross poop demon slug that lives in the heart and is spit into a new body when the need arises. But otherwise is immortal and can only be killed by another Voorhees.
Part 9 is the most out of canon movie that is in canon. It essentially makes Jason a Deadite and that comes back up in the Freddy Vs Jason Vs Ash comic book.
For me Jason when he comes back is simply a Revenant. Driven by his anger and his rage he haunts Crystal Lake always making them pay.
That or Jason X where its implied that over a long enough period he is actual Wolverine who can regenerate over time from any wound. Prefrozen Jason X had the healed face of Kane Hodder.
Then you have Freddy VS Jason where his body just sprouts out around his newly beating heart. Don't know what to make of that one.
I like to think of Jason Goes to hell as the campfire story, while 1-8 are the real events. JGTH is a counselor telling kids the story of Jason, but the kids keeps asking "how and why" questions until they get super scared and the counselor has to ensure them Jason is dead. After hearing the true tales of 1-8, only a really confusing and out of place tale would work to convince the children Jason won't be coming for them. ts really the only way that movie makes any sense with the established lore.
As long as money and time pan out, I should be meeting Kane Hodder at Days of the Dead in ATL next month. Damn shame I don't have a VII mask for him to sign. A friendly handshake and choking should suffice, and hopefully he will sign my copy of Crystal Lake Memories.
Anywho, I don't really see a way to make Pamela a playable killer in this game that wouldn't call for massive redesigns. Floating Pamela head could be an Easter egg or random encounter. Perhaps a 5% chance a counselor entering Jason's shack gets attacked by floating NES Pamela head?
Anywho, I don't really see a way to make Pamela a playable killer in this game that wouldn't call for massive redesigns. Floating Pamela head could be an Easter egg or random encounter. Perhaps a 5% chance a counselor entering Jason's shack gets attacked by floating NES Pamela head?
Pamela was able to kill folk because nobody suspected her. So just have N+1 counselors, and have one of the counselors be "Pamela." Hidden killer mode. Shouldn't require massive redesigns.
That's why I said it would essentially be easy mode; one shotgun blast or pocketknife to the throat and she's dead. And they would have to turn team killing back on or it becomes way too easy to figure out who the "Pamela" is.
Anywho, I don't really see a way to make Pamela a playable killer in this game that wouldn't call for massive redesigns. Floating Pamela head could be an Easter egg or random encounter. Perhaps a 5% chance a counselor entering Jason's shack gets attacked by floating NES Pamela head?
Pamela was able to kill folk because nobody suspected her. So just have N+1 counselors, and have one of the counselors be "Pamela." Hidden killer mode. Shouldn't require massive redesigns.
That's what people thought was going to happen when they were teasing "Paranoia" on their twitter and sub-reddit. A possible Trouble In Terrorist Town style gameplay where one person is the killer and the other counsilers have to figure out who it is and stop them. Sowing fear and discord among your friends. It would be like Mario Party. We start out as the best of friends we think the fun never ends. By the end we don't trust each other and we want to murder each other.
It honestly would be the best way to do Pamela or Roy (Ray? ...Fake Jason from Part 5).
Jason was a "relatively" human slasher in the first 5 movies. Only after that did they start with the silly magic zombie stuff because let's face it you just run out of ideas at a certain point.
Friday the 13th was pretty much the Saw of the 80s.
Jason was a "relatively" human slasher in the first 5 movies. Only after that did they start with the silly magic zombie stuff because let's face it you just run out of ideas at a certain point.
Friday the 13th was pretty much the Saw of the 80s.
Movies 2 - 4 all take place like over a 2 week period. Literally every time Jason gets taken down he get slightly more pissed. Part 4 is literally Jason with a Maxed Out Rage meter. He ran out of all fucks to give and was just out to murder everything in his path.
Kane Hodder might have defined undead Jason, but Part 4 Jason literally was like "I could come inside but I'll just grab you through this window and slam you into your car below."
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Jason X DLC is in the works I believe. There's some more maps they could do too, I think. The ship from part 8, perhaps even Times Square? Not sure how Times Square would work though... The only thing I can think of is needing to power up an old subway car to get away. Call the cops would work too, I guess.
I meant a proper NoeS game.
I'm looking forward to the Grendel map, kind of eh on Uber Jason though. He'll have to be humorously OP to do that version any justice. Guessing Manhattan would involve the sewers somehow.
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There was also talks about putting in Pamela or Roy from Part 5. But I also heard rumors that they were going to make a Trouble In Terrorist Town style game mode called Paranoia. Seemed like everyone would play counselors and one person is the killer. So lots of betrayal and instilling panic. Battle Chads with permanent Chad faces as fellow Chads are found dead in their Chad Thongs.
I'm hoping Uber Jason can smash through doors and walls in one hit. Maybe not on the Grendel, but on the other maps it'd be neat.
I don’t see what is insurmountable about writing an AI for Jason, aside from Gun being a small team and not having the time / money to pull it off.
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"Kill her! Kill her, mommy!"
Edit: Or just have the Pamela VA record those lines, so it's like the first movie and she's crazy talking to herself.
Exactly the same way Jason does.
I mean, why the hell not? It's a story about a crazed zombie who wants to murder all the children and young adults at his lakeside camp site. Go all out, floating head sounds awesome.
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Plus it's another great homage to the great NES game. But there's no reason to not just use a Pamela skin. Honestly, that's the only way we'd ever get her anyway; they're not going to do the extra work to make it an actual makes-sense-within-context mode. I mean they'd have to design a second "kill Pamela" system, change Tommy to Alice, and give her a few slightly different powers since she relied on stealth and surprise rather than strength and endless constitution. And considering how amazingly sexist the average fan of F13 is, it's not worth the effort.
Maybe 'great' isn't the best word for that NES game, but I enjoyed it too. :biggrin:
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Correction there, Koopah, Jason never killed kids. And he wasn't a Zombie until part VI. Do you even Friday the 13th, bro???
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Oh, I guess you're right. In the NES game he does.
And also, really? Isn't he a Zombie like immediately? He got drowned, as in dead, as a kid, but he's not considered a Zombie until 6?
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And if you treat part 9 as "canon" then "Jason" is actually a gross poop demon slug that lives in the heart and is spit into a new body when the need arises. But otherwise is immortal and can only be killed by another Voorhees.
No body, not dead. You know the trope Koopah.
Jason is a living breathing human in II, III, and IV.
Roy Burns in V.
Zombie Jason in VI, VII, VIII.
IX Jason is a body jumping demon slug.
X introduces the idea that Jason heals and regenerates with time, like a slow powered Wolverine, so he is 80/20 human-zombie.
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Meyers wears the jump suit. Kane Hodder would choke you if you said that in front of him.
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Huh, it IS a shirt and pants... I always thought it was like, a janitor's jumpsuit or something.
God, you frickin nerd!
Part 9 is the most out of canon movie that is in canon. It essentially makes Jason a Deadite and that comes back up in the Freddy Vs Jason Vs Ash comic book.
For me Jason when he comes back is simply a Revenant. Driven by his anger and his rage he haunts Crystal Lake always making them pay.
That or Jason X where its implied that over a long enough period he is actual Wolverine who can regenerate over time from any wound. Prefrozen Jason X had the healed face of Kane Hodder.
I like to think of Jason Goes to hell as the campfire story, while 1-8 are the real events. JGTH is a counselor telling kids the story of Jason, but the kids keeps asking "how and why" questions until they get super scared and the counselor has to ensure them Jason is dead. After hearing the true tales of 1-8, only a really confusing and out of place tale would work to convince the children Jason won't be coming for them. ts really the only way that movie makes any sense with the established lore.
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I like to think Freddy vs Jason is a parallel universe. Jason's mask doesn't have the machete cut in it in FvJ.
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A brand new documentary centered around part 3 is releasing this Saturday. It'll be uploaded to Youtube for free.
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That's what people thought was going to happen when they were teasing "Paranoia" on their twitter and sub-reddit. A possible Trouble In Terrorist Town style gameplay where one person is the killer and the other counsilers have to figure out who it is and stop them. Sowing fear and discord among your friends. It would be like Mario Party. We start out as the best of friends we think the fun never ends. By the end we don't trust each other and we want to murder each other.
It honestly would be the best way to do Pamela or Roy (Ray? ...Fake Jason from Part 5).
Friday the 13th was pretty much the Saw of the 80s.
This is objectively true.
Movies 2 - 4 all take place like over a 2 week period. Literally every time Jason gets taken down he get slightly more pissed. Part 4 is literally Jason with a Maxed Out Rage meter. He ran out of all fucks to give and was just out to murder everything in his path.
Kane Hodder might have defined undead Jason, but Part 4 Jason literally was like "I could come inside but I'll just grab you through this window and slam you into your car below."