If you're super short on money I would suggest either running around with Therion and stealing all the coin bags and what not from everyone you can or just break some enemies and use Tressa's divine skill on them. Preferably with Surpassing Power. I could hit the damage cap with her around where you are, IIRC, so that's 10k+ a pop.
The most I’ve been able to do is 3k or so with damage buffs and armor nerfs. What’s your secret?
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If you're super short on money I would suggest either running around with Therion and stealing all the coin bags and what not from everyone you can or just break some enemies and use Tressa's divine skill on them. Preferably with Surpassing Power. I could hit the damage cap with her around where you are, IIRC, so that's 10k+ a pop.
The most I’ve been able to do is 3k or so with damage buffs and armor nerfs. What’s your secret?
The divine skills are real, real good. Also are you using your nuts? Those are permanent buffs!
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
If you're super short on money I would suggest either running around with Therion and stealing all the coin bags and what not from everyone you can or just break some enemies and use Tressa's divine skill on them. Preferably with Surpassing Power. I could hit the damage cap with her around where you are, IIRC, so that's 10k+ a pop.
The most I’ve been able to do is 3k or so with damage buffs and armor nerfs. What’s your secret?
The divine skills are real, real good. Also are you using your nuts? Those are permanent buffs!
I'm afraid I'll never use my nuts. The RPG hoarder in me doesn't want to use those strictly limited items...
If you're super short on money I would suggest either running around with Therion and stealing all the coin bags and what not from everyone you can or just break some enemies and use Tressa's divine skill on them. Preferably with Surpassing Power. I could hit the damage cap with her around where you are, IIRC, so that's 10k+ a pop.
I don't think you can get more cash than your target's remaining HP, so Surpassing Power probably not that helpful for randoms.
Trying to decide if I want to invest the time in this that it requires. Do characters not in the active party gain any xp? Can you switch out the entire party or are you always stuck with whoever you started with and can only switch out the other three?
I only have four of the characters so far but it feels like this is a long ass game.
Trying to decide if I want to invest the time in this that it requires. Do characters not in the active party gain any xp? Can you switch out the entire party or are you always stuck with whoever you started with and can only switch out the other three?
I only have four of the characters so far but it feels like this is a long ass game.
It is a long game but it's really good. The person you picked first is there until you beat their chapter four. Characters not around don't get XP, but it's not at all hard to keep everyone up to par.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
Trying to decide if I want to invest the time in this that it requires. Do characters not in the active party gain any xp? Can you switch out the entire party or are you always stuck with whoever you started with and can only switch out the other three?
I only have four of the characters so far but it feels like this is a long ass game.
Active party only for experience.
For a chunk of the game you can only switch the 3 characters that you did not start with. Once you finish the main character's story they can be switched out also.
Catch up on experience seems to work fairly well. I barely used some of the characters and I'd toss them in the party with my higher levels and they'd catch up to their chapter levels fairly quickly while doing their story.
Trying to decide if I want to invest the time in this that it requires. Do characters not in the active party gain any xp? Can you switch out the entire party or are you always stuck with whoever you started with and can only switch out the other three?
I only have four of the characters so far but it feels like this is a long ass game.
Active party only for experience.
For a chunk of the game you can only switch the 3 characters that you did not start with. Once you finish the main character's story they can be switched out also.
Catch up on experience seems to work fairly well. I barely used some of the characters and I'd toss them in the party with my higher levels and they'd catch up to their chapter levels fairly quickly while doing their story.
Do the characters ever interact with each other?
So I am stuck with Olberic for a while. That's fine, he hits hard.
Occassionally you will see an option to press + and it will have some traveler banter. It's usually a short scene between two characters. I've seen one or two scenes with 3 characters though.
Trying to decide if I want to invest the time in this that it requires. Do characters not in the active party gain any xp? Can you switch out the entire party or are you always stuck with whoever you started with and can only switch out the other three?
I only have four of the characters so far but it feels like this is a long ass game.
Active party only for experience.
For a chunk of the game you can only switch the 3 characters that you did not start with. Once you finish the main character's story they can be switched out also.
Catch up on experience seems to work fairly well. I barely used some of the characters and I'd toss them in the party with my higher levels and they'd catch up to their chapter levels fairly quickly while doing their story.
Do the characters ever interact with each other?
So I am stuck with Olberic for a while. That's fine, he hits hard.
Once you start into Chapter 2s, everyone in the active party will have some little quip to say to the active chapter's member about their current story at specific points. Which means the other 4 members also have something to say, but you won't know what unless you swap them in and out. It's usually little character beats that give some insight into their personalities.
Once you finish some Chapter 4s, you can eventually trigger multi-party member chats by entering a town pub, and that includes members not in the active party.
Primrose for example will chat with Alfyn and Therion while they get drunk, and reminisces that her perfect man would be a cross between the two.
Did Alfyn's Ch3 last night. The boss was much harder for me than Olberic's for some reason. He hit like a fucking truck. Finally made use of Therion's shackle to bring down his damage to something more reasonable.
The real benefit to Starseer are the passives. Bonus JP, extra BP at combat start, crazy power boost when using bp, and a 25% chance to just flat-out ignore damage are all great.
Yeah, used it for Ophilia's final boss and it's just hilarious when you BP boost the whole party for 9 turns. Especially with a merchant around for their usual BP feeding. I would set the job just for that one ability. It's so strong to be able to crank out max boosted buffs and divines even faster.
The bonus BP generation can also be gotten from Apothecary using Dohter's with Plums (literally have max BP forever), or even just Alfyn using Concoct
Starseer having it is nice, but, there are alternatives out there as well
I guess with Starseer you're not sacrificing one character to essentially become a buff-bot each turn, so that's a plus-side, I suppose.
If they're not slinging buffs every turn what are you doing? Although in this case it's more they become a self-sustaining Sealticge+BP+other buffs slinger. But I will definitely say it's far less impressive than Sorcerer at a glance, even though sorcerer has basically just one move in 6 versions... the ease at which sorcerer becomes "break six shields a turn" is really good at completely shutting a boss down by breaking them immediately after they're back up (with leghold trap they end up getting their post break moves... then they get broken by two rounds of your party moving back to back - I'm assuming something will eventually be able to be dangerous despite this, but...)
The bonus BP generation can also be gotten from Apothecary using Dohter's with Plums (literally have max BP forever), or even just Alfyn using Concoct
Starseer having it is nice, but, there are alternatives out there as well
I guess with Starseer you're not sacrificing one character to essentially become a buff-bot each turn, so that's a plus-side, I suppose.
If they're not slinging buffs every turn what are you doing? Although in this case it's more they become a self-sustaining Sealticge+BP+other buffs slinger. But I will definitely say it's far less impressive than Sorcerer at a glance, even though sorcerer has basically just one move in 6 versions... the ease at which sorcerer becomes "break six shields a turn" is really good at completely shutting a boss down by breaking them immediately after they're back up (with leghold trap they end up getting their post break moves... then they get broken by two rounds of your party moving back to back - I'm assuming something will eventually be able to be dangerous despite this, but...)
Casting Shooting Stars, using skills from the main job, using a Divine Skill, casting Shooting Stars, casting Shooting Stars...........
Shooting Stars is real good.
Real talk though, you're always gonna have at least some downtime even with the support classes. Sometimes no one needs a buff or healing or anything. Especially if you're boosting a buff for 9 turns. Double especially if you're running Saving Grace (which, frankly, is OP as fuck).
The game's not balanced around any of the nonsense you can eventually do. It's all overkill. Even the secret boss gets destroyed if you set up the real OP nonsense.
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It's pretty rough though, my Tressa is way underleveled and she's the only one could combo sidestep. My Primrose and Therion have ~800 evasion, I might just have to try and power through with max physical defence and incite on Olberic. Maybe switch him to merchant so he can sidestep himself?
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Finished all of the Chapter 3's, and am at a bit of an impasse. I was going to do some of those secret job dungeons, but it looks like the secret job dungeons are level 50 whereas the Chapter 4's are all level 45. I don't get it, what is the point of those secret jobs if the whole game can be beaten way before them? I've got a level 50, a 46, and the rest are 39-40, so I guess I'll do some Chapter 4's until I have party of 50's and then do the secrets?
You can do the secrets with a decent party at your levels. If you want a hint for the most easily cheesed one...
Take a Dancer and a Cleric to the Sorceror. Put Sealticgue's Seduction on your cleric, mass reflect spells, repeat. Boss dead.
Okay, so I'll admit something now. The boss spoken of in the spoiler? I had some trouble with that one.
It dawned on me after my first wipe that "hey, if I can get Reflective Veil up on everyone, this boss is a joke". The problem was that he uses a mass Celestial Intervention on the party to prevent any further buffs from going up, so it's not something you can just do at your leisure.
Basically, I didn't realize that I could have used Leg Trap to ensure my party gets their full turn before he can re-apply the debuff so I could have set that up. I basically "lucked out" in one turn where the buff dropped at the start of the next turn, and just happened to have a party member ready to break his last shield so I could do the set up.
That took many more wipes than I care to admit.
So protip: Leghold Trap one turn before the debuff drops so you can put up mass reflect. And make sure your Dancer and Cleric keep fueled with BP because they're going to need a few turns of that combo to win the fight if that's your primary damage source. Alfyn Concoct for the win!
You can do the secrets with a decent party at your levels. If you want a hint for the most easily cheesed one...
Take a Dancer and a Cleric to the Sorceror. Put Sealticgue's Seduction on your cleric, mass reflect spells, repeat. Boss dead.
Okay, so I'll admit something now. The boss spoken of in the spoiler? I had some trouble with that one.
It dawned on me after my first wipe that "hey, if I can get Reflective Veil up on everyone, this boss is a joke". The problem was that he uses a mass Celestial Intervention on the party to prevent any further buffs from going up, so it's not something you can just do at your leisure.
Basically, I didn't realize that I could have used Leg Trap to ensure my party gets their full turn before he can re-apply the debuff so I could have set that up. I basically "lucked out" in one turn where the buff dropped at the start of the next turn, and just happened to have a party member ready to break his last shield so I could do the set up.
That took many more wipes than I care to admit.
So protip: Leghold Trap one turn before the debuff drops so you can put up mass reflect. And make sure your Dancer and Cleric keep fueled with BP because they're going to need a few turns of that combo to win the fight if that's your primary damage source. Alfyn Concoct for the win!
You can also just:
heal aggressively through the debuff and not really try to do much damage until you can set up the veil.
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it usually takes me around three turns to break him, and during that time he ends up feeling or almost all the damage I do post break.
Some questions:
Do weapon stats favor into skill usage?
Do enemies vulnerabilities alter damage? Like if an enemy is weak to Axes, should I switch to a higher damage sword or stick with the axe?
Which non-super skills do the most damage by class?
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it usually takes me around three turns to break him, and during that time he ends up feeling or almost all the damage I do post break.
Some questions:
Do weapon stats favor into skill usage?
Do enemies vulnerabilities alter damage? Like if an enemy is weak to Axes, should I switch to a higher damage sword or stick with the axe?
Which non-super skills do the most damage by class?
I don't believe enemy vulnerabilities affect damage normally. There's a passive that does that though.
Weapon stats don't stack, right? So a strong spear does more than a weak sword? Is there, then, a way to check weapon stats in a battle?
Yes, weapon stats only apply when they are being used. A 200 power sword will do more than a 150 spear because that attack value is only added to your characters physical attack when it is used.
Stats like +speed or something I honestly don't know, they may be active all the time but probably work like elemental attack - it takes the highest single value from all of your weapons but won't add multiple values together.
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If you're super short on money I would suggest either running around with Therion and stealing all the coin bags and what not from everyone you can or just break some enemies and use Tressa's divine skill on them. Preferably with Surpassing Power. I could hit the damage cap with her around where you are, IIRC, so that's 10k+ a pop.
The most I’ve been able to do is 3k or so with damage buffs and armor nerfs. What’s your secret?
The divine skills are real, real good. Also are you using your nuts? Those are permanent buffs!
Hahah, 50 hours in and I had no idea I had all those nuts. My peoples just had a grande feast of nuts.
it usually takes me around three turns to break him, and during that time he ends up feeling or almost all the damage I do post break.
Some questions:
Do weapon stats favor into skill usage?
Do enemies vulnerabilities alter damage? Like if an enemy is weak to Axes, should I switch to a higher damage sword or stick with the axe?
Which non-super skills do the most damage by class?
Enemies take 30ish% more damage from their weakness pre break. Once the enemy breaks they take equal damage from everything.
There is a passive from Sorcerer that increases damage to weaknesses and that will also apply during break.
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Yeah the optimal play for damage is use weaknesses until they break then switch to whatever does the most raw damage.
Weapons use whichever stat boost is the highest except for attack which is whatever you're attacking with.
One exception, it's possible to make weapons deal elemental damage. This extra damage is always based on the elemental attack of the weapon you are using.
Tried the boss again and crushed him. Having Primrose cast AA on herself before dancing mass buffs to everyone is great. Feels good to discover that, although I feel like that is old news to some here.
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The most I’ve been able to do is 3k or so with damage buffs and armor nerfs. What’s your secret?
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The divine skills are real, real good. Also are you using your nuts? Those are permanent buffs!
No, you need Therion.
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I'm afraid I'll never use my nuts. The RPG hoarder in me doesn't want to use those strictly limited items...
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I don't think you can get more cash than your target's remaining HP, so Surpassing Power probably not that helpful for randoms.
I only have four of the characters so far but it feels like this is a long ass game.
It is a long game but it's really good. The person you picked first is there until you beat their chapter four. Characters not around don't get XP, but it's not at all hard to keep everyone up to par.
Active party only for experience.
For a chunk of the game you can only switch the 3 characters that you did not start with. Once you finish the main character's story they can be switched out also.
Catch up on experience seems to work fairly well. I barely used some of the characters and I'd toss them in the party with my higher levels and they'd catch up to their chapter levels fairly quickly while doing their story.
Do the characters ever interact with each other?
So I am stuck with Olberic for a while. That's fine, he hits hard.
Once you start into Chapter 2s, everyone in the active party will have some little quip to say to the active chapter's member about their current story at specific points. Which means the other 4 members also have something to say, but you won't know what unless you swap them in and out. It's usually little character beats that give some insight into their personalities.
Once you finish some Chapter 4s, you can eventually trigger multi-party member chats by entering a town pub, and that includes members not in the active party.
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Tri-hit Wind/Light/Dark AoE spell is really good. All-in-one defense buff is good. Celestial Intervention (buff/debuff negation) is LEGIT. Divine Skill hits pretty damn hard.
It's a good support class. I slapped it on Ophilia, fits her pretty well.
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Yeah, used it for Ophilia's final boss and it's just hilarious when you BP boost the whole party for 9 turns. Especially with a merchant around for their usual BP feeding. I would set the job just for that one ability. It's so strong to be able to crank out max boosted buffs and divines even faster.
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Starseer having it is nice, but, there are alternatives out there as well
I guess with Starseer you're not sacrificing one character to essentially become a buff-bot each turn, so that's a plus-side, I suppose.
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If they're not slinging buffs every turn what are you doing? Although in this case it's more they become a self-sustaining Sealticge+BP+other buffs slinger. But I will definitely say it's far less impressive than Sorcerer at a glance, even though sorcerer has basically just one move in 6 versions... the ease at which sorcerer becomes "break six shields a turn" is really good at completely shutting a boss down by breaking them immediately after they're back up (with leghold trap they end up getting their post break moves... then they get broken by two rounds of your party moving back to back - I'm assuming something will eventually be able to be dangerous despite this, but...)
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Casting Shooting Stars, using skills from the main job, using a Divine Skill, casting Shooting Stars, casting Shooting Stars...........
Shooting Stars is real good.
Real talk though, you're always gonna have at least some downtime even with the support classes. Sometimes no one needs a buff or healing or anything. Especially if you're boosting a buff for 9 turns. Double especially if you're running Saving Grace (which, frankly, is OP as fuck).
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Nintendo ID: Tortalius
Steam: Tortalius
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It's pretty rough though, my Tressa is way underleveled and she's the only one could combo sidestep. My Primrose and Therion have ~800 evasion, I might just have to try and power through with max physical defence and incite on Olberic. Maybe switch him to merchant so he can sidestep himself?
Okay, so I'll admit something now. The boss spoken of in the spoiler? I had some trouble with that one.
Basically, I didn't realize that I could have used Leg Trap to ensure my party gets their full turn before he can re-apply the debuff so I could have set that up. I basically "lucked out" in one turn where the buff dropped at the start of the next turn, and just happened to have a party member ready to break his last shield so I could do the set up.
That took many more wipes than I care to admit.
So protip: Leghold Trap one turn before the debuff drops so you can put up mass reflect. And make sure your Dancer and Cleric keep fueled with BP because they're going to need a few turns of that combo to win the fight if that's your primary damage source. Alfyn Concoct for the win!
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You can also just:
Some questions:
Do weapon stats favor into skill usage?
Do enemies vulnerabilities alter damage? Like if an enemy is weak to Axes, should I switch to a higher damage sword or stick with the axe?
Which non-super skills do the most damage by class?
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I don't believe enemy vulnerabilities affect damage normally. There's a passive that does that though.
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Yes, weapon stats only apply when they are being used. A 200 power sword will do more than a 150 spear because that attack value is only added to your characters physical attack when it is used.
Stats like +speed or something I honestly don't know, they may be active all the time but probably work like elemental attack - it takes the highest single value from all of your weapons but won't add multiple values together.
Hahah, 50 hours in and I had no idea I had all those nuts. My peoples just had a grande feast of nuts.
Enemies take 30ish% more damage from their weakness pre break. Once the enemy breaks they take equal damage from everything.
There is a passive from Sorcerer that increases damage to weaknesses and that will also apply during break.
FFXIV: Tchel Fay
Nintendo ID: Tortalius
Steam: Tortalius
Stream: twitch.tv/tortalius
Weapons use whichever stat boost is the highest except for attack which is whatever you're attacking with.
One exception, it's possible to make weapons deal elemental damage. This extra damage is always based on the elemental attack of the weapon you are using.
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