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If the government shuts down on February 15th, the flight attendants union will go on strike February 16th. If the government does not shut down, they'll still have some demonstrations in major airports over varying lingering effects of the last shutdown, like contractors not receiving back pay. Sara Nelson, the president of the flight attendants union, had been the one calling for a general strike to end the prior shutdown. Might've worked; LaGuardia shutting down from lack of air traffic controllers was probably what actually made Trump cave over the last one.
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and we have a junior doctor strike underway down here. it's their 2nd action, with another one scheduled for a few weeks from now. they're 48 hour strikes.
a union shop is a location where you cannot work for the business if you do not also join the union. It does not sound like it was the case here.
And as a regular PSA: Union Shops have been illegal in the United States since 1947. Keep this in mind when the Chamber of Commerce and their politicians tell you that we need Right-to-Work in state X, so that workers in state X have the choice to not join a union.
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and we have a junior doctor strike underway down here. it's their 2nd action, with another one scheduled for a few weeks from now. they're 48 hour strikes.
This one isn't nearly making as much news as the first one.
and we have a junior doctor strike underway down here. it's their 2nd action, with another one scheduled for a few weeks from now. they're 48 hour strikes.
This one isn't nearly making as much news as the first one.
Most of what I've been hearing is the senior doctors whinging about having to do long hours.
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Plenty of high schoolers were protesting for gun control despite the consequences for them. There were thousands of kids getting detention for it but they did it anyway. But sure, lol lazy teens, amirite?
At this point I don't really care why people do the things they do. What matters is what they are doing. So what if those kids are protesting in solidarity with their teachers just to get out of class? The end result is the same.
I think it's perfectly reasonable to say that kids today are extremely politically aware and engaged while also saying that if they think they can do something to avoid sitting around in class, especially when you don't even have your normal teachers there, they 100% do that.
I'm sure there are plenty of kids there that are all about standing with their teachers. I'm also sure there are plenty of kids there that would rather hang out in an impromptu dance party than whatever the replacement class plan was.
It's the first union drive directly organized by a DSA chapter and the first craft beer labor struggle
There was actually an interview with one of the organizing workers on Chapo this week; none other than Brace Belden AKA PissPigGranddad, the American who went to Syria to fight with the YPG.
2019 is so weird, but Anchor Steam is the first beer I ever tasted and it still reminds me of watching football with my dad as a child and I really hope the workers win ✊
I think it's perfectly reasonable to say that kids today are extremely politically aware and engaged while also saying that if they think they can do something to avoid sitting around in class, especially when you don't even have your normal teachers there, they 100% do that.
I'm sure there are plenty of kids there that are all about standing with their teachers. I'm also sure there are plenty of kids there that would rather hang out in an impromptu dance party than whatever the replacement class plan was.
The problem is that it's a continuation of the trend of the older generation shitting on the younger one. As people have pointed out, kids aren't idiots,and they can see how teachers get shat on. It's tiresome to see teenagers getting painted as lazy and shiftless by nature, especially when we're now on the painting end.
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Speaking of students on the picket line, professors at Wright State University have been picketing for nearly 3 weeks in this awful cold, and have enjoyed support from students who have largely rejected the university's efforts to bring in scab professors halfway through the semester.
After 20 days, Wright State University’s professors are back in the classroom upon reaching a deal with the administration to end what is thought to be the longest faculty union strike in Ohio’s history.
The strike ended late Sunday with a tentative agreement between negotiators for the administration and the Wright State chapter of the American Association of University Professors. The school’s board of trustees unanimously voted to approve the deal Monday night while the AAUP-WSU will take a poll of members in the coming days.The deal should save Wright State around $3 million to $4 million per year, president Cheryl Schrader said. No estimate about how much the strike cost the university was available as of Monday.» RELATED: 7 controversies that cost Wright State millions of dollars The nearly five-year deal includes two contracts that will extend through June 30, 2023, according to the school. As part of the contract, the AAUP-WSU’s 560 or so members will join a university-wide health care plan.
Health care remained a sticking point in contract talks with union leaders saying they would be sacrificing their right to bargain over health benefits by agreeing to the terms originally imposed by the board of trustees Jan. 4. The tentative agreement makes it clear that health care will be included in future contract negotiations, said AAUP-WSU president Martin Kich.
“There’s very strong language in the contract now,” Kich said. “No fact-finder is going to be able to look at it and say: ‘they gave up their right to bargain over health care.’”
Board of trustees chairman Doug Fecher said the new agreement has “some guardrails” in place concerning costs and collective bargaining. With the strike over, Fecher called on each side to put aside their differences.“We need to spend some time rebuilding and repairing this university,” Fecher said.AAUP-WSU members will also receive up to a 2.5 percent raise in 2022 and a 2.5 percent raise in 2023. But, the raises will not necessarily make up for financial concessions accepted by the union in health care and other areas, Kich said.Under the deal, faculty union members can be furloughed for one day per semester and workload and layoff language will remain the same. Summer teaching pay for union faculty will be reduced by 15 percent to 20 percent over the course of the two contracts.“This agreement serves Wright State University and our students well,” Schrader said in a statement. “Both parties made substantial concessions to help move the university forward together.”
‘Return to normal’ Students will soon be able to pick back up courses they may have withdrawn from because of the recent strike.Any students who dropped a class last week will be able to re-register for it by the end of the week, according to an email sent to campus from provost Sue Edwards. Students will need permission of the department chairperson to re-register and there will be no late fees applied if they do so this week, Edwards said.“I am sure all our members are glad to be going back to the classroom where we hope things will return to normal for our students as soon as possible,” Kich said.Since the first day of the spring semester, 405 students have withdrawn from Wright State while 494 new students have enrolled, according to the school.Prior to the 20-day strike that started Jan. 22, Schrader had said that classes would continue but that some would be combined, moved online temporarily or taught by a substitute. Other courses were given alternative assignments, such as a tour of the of the archives at the library.
The most encouraging thing about this political moment is that the last year as been the most striking-est in our lifetimes and labor shows no signs of slowing down.
My wife works in a school where students set their own curriculum and are free to leave classrooms whenever they want for any reason, as long as they can express a reason. Out of 100 kids, maybe 20 are out of a classroom at any given time.
Believe it or not, kids tend to want to learn. You just have to give them an environment that they want to be in first.
It's the first union drive directly organized by a DSA chapter and the first craft beer labor struggle
There was actually an interview with one of the organizing workers on Chapo this week; none other than Brace Belden AKA PissPigGranddad, the American who went to Syria to fight with the YPG.
2019 is so weird, but Anchor Steam is the first beer I ever tasted and it still reminds me of watching football with my dad as a child and I really hope the workers win ✊
I was wondering what happened to him
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My wife works in a school where students set their own curriculum and are free to leave classrooms whenever they want for any reason, as long as they can express a reason. Out of 100 kids, maybe 20 are out of a classroom at any given time.
Believe it or not, kids tend to want to learn. You just have to give them an environment that they want to be in first.
The stark difference between 'schools as places for learning' and 'schools as places for disciplining'
high school students will protest alongside anyone if it gets them out of class without consequence
One of my coworkers was out protesting with the DPS teachers at one high school and about 200+ students walked out to join the picket line with signs they had made. Oh and it was 16 degrees Fahrenheit that morning. So I think some of them might actually care.
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One of my best friends went to East. It's one of the better public schools in the Denver district and also is pretty damn big.
Colorado has some systemic issues with funding public education. Teachers generally have been underpaid in many districts due to restrictions on funding from TABOR and property tax laws; in others, residents have voted for property tax increases to increase teacher pay. So you have neighboring districts with large discrepancies in teacher pay.
While I support the teacher strikes to achieve their immediate goals, unless TABOR gets repealed the trend toward devaluing teacher pay with periodic and inconsistent electoral measures to address gaps is only going to get worse. The population boom in CO has exacerbated the problem, but the roots all go back to efforts by anti-government lobbyists in the 90s.
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Denver teachers and the Denver Public Schools district reached an agreement early Thursday morning that will put an end to the strike that has put teachers on the picket lines since Monday.
The agreement between the two sides came after more than 19 hours of negotiations that started at 10 a.m. on Wednesday and lasted until around 5:30 a.m. on Thursday morning.
It still must be ratified by the full union membership. More than half the district's teachers went on strike Monday after negotiations over pay broke down.
The agreement will invest an additional $23 million in teacher pay and includes an average base salary increase of 11.7 percent next school year followed by cost-of-living increases the following two years.
Forgive my relative ignorance on this- what are the factors contributing to more labor action/strikes in the past couple years?
Tipping point of capital taking too much for too long/lower unemployment finally breaking through wage stickiness/a resurgent left-labor partnership/capital’s judicial wins reducing union participation leading to more dramatic action/etc?
I guess it means something that this is all mostly public unions striking...
You know, I'm glad to see the pay hike. I hate that it comes in this way, because imo a strong teacher's union is ultimately bad for kids - it takes too long to remove bad teachers and your kid only gets to be in 3rd grade once (or twice if the teacher is really bad, but still). But pay increases will attract and retain talent, and that's positive for everyone.
Forgive my relative ignorance on this- what are the factors contributing to more labor action/strikes in the past couple years?
Tipping point of capital taking too much for too long/lower unemployment finally breaking through wage stickiness/a resurgent left-labor partnership/capital’s judicial wins reducing union participation leading to more dramatic action/etc?
I guess it means something that this is all mostly public unions striking...
It's basically a domino effect imo. One group (was it WV that started this? I can't remember right now) just hit their absolute limit and went for it. And it worked. So now everyone is copying them.
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Forgive my relative ignorance on this- what are the factors contributing to more labor action/strikes in the past couple years?
Tipping point of capital taking too much for too long/lower unemployment finally breaking through wage stickiness/a resurgent left-labor partnership/capital’s judicial wins reducing union participation leading to more dramatic action/etc?
I guess it means something that this is all mostly public unions striking...
There are a lot of theories on this - women are leading a lot of the organizing, which has to do with demand for labor in feminized sectors such as teaching, nursing, and home health aids increasing in contrast with other sectors like manufacturing. I also attribute it to a generation without Red Scare propaganda or a strong socialist boogeyman abroad that has experienced first-hand the failure of capitalism to deliver on what was promised in exchange for the grave concessions - 'yes, you'll work hard and your boss will take your surplus value, but you'll have a family and a house and nice consumer goods etc etc'. I don't know that there's a real sense of class consciousness, but folks have long felt that 'They' are fucking 'Us' over and the attempts to scapegoat immigrants, minorities, overseas manufacturing, welfare queens, etc etc are falling on increasingly-deaf ears as people have more access to more compelling narratives which make them question the social order as dictated by the ruling class.
You know, I'm glad to see the pay hike. I hate that it comes in this way, because imo a strong teacher's union is ultimately bad for kids - it takes too long to remove bad teachers and your kid only gets to be in 3rd grade once (or twice if the teacher is really bad, but still). But pay increases will attract and retain talent, and that's positive for everyone.
I agree with you, but you're basically explaining how unions are a necessary evil. Strong teachers unions wouldn't be necessary if local and state governments didn't try to fuck them over at pretty much every turn.
You know, I'm glad to see the pay hike. I hate that it comes in this way, because imo a strong teacher's union is ultimately bad for kids - it takes too long to remove bad teachers and your kid only gets to be in 3rd grade once (or twice if the teacher is really bad, but still). But pay increases will attract and retain talent, and that's positive for everyone.
Yeah bad teachers is way more attributable to the discrepancy of education requirements relative to pay driving down the candidate pool than it is union rules
You know, I'm glad to see the pay hike. I hate that it comes in this way, because imo a strong teacher's union is ultimately bad for kids - it takes too long to remove bad teachers and your kid only gets to be in 3rd grade once (or twice if the teacher is really bad, but still). But pay increases will attract and retain talent, and that's positive for everyone.
This is not a problem caused by unions, it's a problem caused by managers/administrators who are unwilling or unable to do their job, and by a teacher education system with low standards that has not produced a consistently high caliber of graduates.
Forgive my relative ignorance on this- what are the factors contributing to more labor action/strikes in the past couple years?
Tipping point of capital taking too much for too long/lower unemployment finally breaking through wage stickiness/a resurgent left-labor partnership/capital’s judicial wins reducing union participation leading to more dramatic action/etc?
I guess it means something that this is all mostly public unions striking...
Could also be Trump’s insanity forcing people to become more activist than they otherwise would have. I know I read an article about how the Muslims of one of NYC’s few Republican congressional districts helped flip it Dem through extraordinary political organization and outreach. They had never been activist on that level before but Trump’s antics pushed them forward.
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I'd be curious to see evidence for teacher quality being pushed down by strong unions rather than the low wages and bad working conditions that strong unions protect against.
Decades ago when I was still in high school, there was some bullshit being thrown around regarding teachers. The usual stuff that we could basically checkmark off a list at this point, but my school's teachers went with 'work to rule' for a while (basically, if it was explicitly expected of them, they did it, but nothing else, crippling or ending after school activities and whatnot), and eventually a strike. In the middle of a good, proper, Canadian winter, they were on the picket lines, and I (and some others) joined them.
Will some kids take every opportunity to slack off and skip out? Sure. But painting those efforts with a wide brush does a disservice to engaged, active, and aware children, kids, teenagers, young adults, whatever you want to call them. We saw it very starkly following some school shootings, with children too young to feel comfortable swearing in front of adults leading the charge, and being failed by those same adults. No matter how rare or not those leadership skills and drive might be, I'm sure most of us PA forumers who I seem to recall trend into the 30's/40's range can remember being more than just a stoner slacker lazy stereotype in our youth as well?
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You know, I'm glad to see the pay hike. I hate that it comes in this way, because imo a strong teacher's union is ultimately bad for kids - it takes too long to remove bad teachers and your kid only gets to be in 3rd grade once (or twice if the teacher is really bad, but still). But pay increases will attract and retain talent, and that's positive for everyone.
My wife works in a charter district where there is no union at present.
Bad teachers who can't control a classroom, teach content or meet testing benchmarks have survived for years if they can be counted on to show up for work.
The pay is better then public because the hours are worse.
Anyone who stays in teaching flees for suburban public districts usually - they always take the paycut for the quality of life improvements and after a decade of this no one she's known has come back to the charter world.
Unions are essential for all working people until Constitutional level reforms are put in place.
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Honestly, I think this is good for Amazon workers, too. A lot of nasty business practices come out of New York, and the cost of living there would make things messy.
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That Amazon victory is the best news. Good morning, everyone except fucking Jeff Bezos
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And as a regular PSA: Union Shops have been illegal in the United States since 1947. Keep this in mind when the Chamber of Commerce and their politicians tell you that we need Right-to-Work in state X, so that workers in state X have the choice to not join a union.
This one isn't nearly making as much news as the first one.
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Most of what I've been hearing is the senior doctors whinging about having to do long hours.
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high school students will protest alongside anyone if it gets them out of class without consequence
Kids are way more sophisticated than a lot of people give them credit for. They know we're treated terribly and they think it's idiotic.
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I'm sure there are plenty of kids there that are all about standing with their teachers. I'm also sure there are plenty of kids there that would rather hang out in an impromptu dance party than whatever the replacement class plan was.
Get em while theyre young
There was actually an interview with one of the organizing workers on Chapo this week; none other than Brace Belden AKA PissPigGranddad, the American who went to Syria to fight with the YPG.
2019 is so weird, but Anchor Steam is the first beer I ever tasted and it still reminds me of watching football with my dad as a child and I really hope the workers win ✊
The problem is that it's a continuation of the trend of the older generation shitting on the younger one. As people have pointed out, kids aren't idiots,and they can see how teachers get shat on. It's tiresome to see teenagers getting painted as lazy and shiftless by nature, especially when we're now on the painting end.
The most encouraging thing about this political moment is that the last year as been the most striking-est in our lifetimes and labor shows no signs of slowing down.
Believe it or not, kids tend to want to learn. You just have to give them an environment that they want to be in first.
I was wondering what happened to him
The stark difference between 'schools as places for learning' and 'schools as places for disciplining'
One of my coworkers was out protesting with the DPS teachers at one high school and about 200+ students walked out to join the picket line with signs they had made. Oh and it was 16 degrees Fahrenheit that morning. So I think some of them might actually care.
One of my best friends went to East. It's one of the better public schools in the Denver district and also is pretty damn big.
Colorado has some systemic issues with funding public education. Teachers generally have been underpaid in many districts due to restrictions on funding from TABOR and property tax laws; in others, residents have voted for property tax increases to increase teacher pay. So you have neighboring districts with large discrepancies in teacher pay.
While I support the teacher strikes to achieve their immediate goals, unless TABOR gets repealed the trend toward devaluing teacher pay with periodic and inconsistent electoral measures to address gaps is only going to get worse. The population boom in CO has exacerbated the problem, but the roots all go back to efforts by anti-government lobbyists in the 90s.
Tipping point of capital taking too much for too long/lower unemployment finally breaking through wage stickiness/a resurgent left-labor partnership/capital’s judicial wins reducing union participation leading to more dramatic action/etc?
I guess it means something that this is all mostly public unions striking...
It's basically a domino effect imo. One group (was it WV that started this? I can't remember right now) just hit their absolute limit and went for it. And it worked. So now everyone is copying them.
There are a lot of theories on this - women are leading a lot of the organizing, which has to do with demand for labor in feminized sectors such as teaching, nursing, and home health aids increasing in contrast with other sectors like manufacturing. I also attribute it to a generation without Red Scare propaganda or a strong socialist boogeyman abroad that has experienced first-hand the failure of capitalism to deliver on what was promised in exchange for the grave concessions - 'yes, you'll work hard and your boss will take your surplus value, but you'll have a family and a house and nice consumer goods etc etc'. I don't know that there's a real sense of class consciousness, but folks have long felt that 'They' are fucking 'Us' over and the attempts to scapegoat immigrants, minorities, overseas manufacturing, welfare queens, etc etc are falling on increasingly-deaf ears as people have more access to more compelling narratives which make them question the social order as dictated by the ruling class.
I agree with you, but you're basically explaining how unions are a necessary evil. Strong teachers unions wouldn't be necessary if local and state governments didn't try to fuck them over at pretty much every turn.
Yeah bad teachers is way more attributable to the discrepancy of education requirements relative to pay driving down the candidate pool than it is union rules
This is not a problem caused by unions, it's a problem caused by managers/administrators who are unwilling or unable to do their job, and by a teacher education system with low standards that has not produced a consistently high caliber of graduates.
Could also be Trump’s insanity forcing people to become more activist than they otherwise would have. I know I read an article about how the Muslims of one of NYC’s few Republican congressional districts helped flip it Dem through extraordinary political organization and outreach. They had never been activist on that level before but Trump’s antics pushed them forward.
Will some kids take every opportunity to slack off and skip out? Sure. But painting those efforts with a wide brush does a disservice to engaged, active, and aware children, kids, teenagers, young adults, whatever you want to call them. We saw it very starkly following some school shootings, with children too young to feel comfortable swearing in front of adults leading the charge, and being failed by those same adults. No matter how rare or not those leadership skills and drive might be, I'm sure most of us PA forumers who I seem to recall trend into the 30's/40's range can remember being more than just a stoner slacker lazy stereotype in our youth as well?
Because Amazon has canceled plans to expand in New York due to local opposition.
My wife works in a charter district where there is no union at present.
Bad teachers who can't control a classroom, teach content or meet testing benchmarks have survived for years if they can be counted on to show up for work.
The pay is better then public because the hours are worse.
Anyone who stays in teaching flees for suburban public districts usually - they always take the paycut for the quality of life improvements and after a decade of this no one she's known has come back to the charter world.
Unions are essential for all working people until Constitutional level reforms are put in place.
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Honestly, I think this is good for Amazon workers, too. A lot of nasty business practices come out of New York, and the cost of living there would make things messy.