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    AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    Little background:
    I work for Dutch local government, hours, pay and everything about it is pretty great. When I put in the hours I can do a stellar job. My partner is dealing with mental health problems and is currently on a low. She sleeps a lot and can't take care of our young kid as much as she'd want to.

    Question:
    My mother-in-law died last Sunday after wilting away for a year. I never liked her much and my partner has had falling outs with her for years. So I haven't shed any tears. There isn't even going to be a funeral. This week my son's day care is closed, and I had to figure out what to do. Last evening I figured something out and emailed my colleague and our boss with my planning for the week: I will work Wednesday and Thursday.

    I just got a mail from my colleague telling me to take it easy, as a death in the family is an exceptional situation and I don't have to put in so many hours (for Dutch govt *sweats in socialism*). He is a lot older than me and is generally an empathetic person, so I'm sure he means well. Is just that I have nothing to do at home and I'd much rather go to work. I'm not sure how to reply without coming off as a weirdo. I think it is nice to thank him for his concern, but maybe I should just do so in person when I see him again in two days. Does that make sense?

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    "I appreciate your concern, but I think what would be best for me is to keep busy."

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Current workplace thought

    I am a heel for kicking out old dude from his broken down camper on client property. Even if she is living in the site.

    Secondary thought

    I have had a sore throat for a while, and there's this fat grain of rice on my tonsil.....i have not had rice in days

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    AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    Doh, now my boss's boss mailed me telling me to take it easy. I mean, this is the opposite of the issues normally discussed in this thread. I'll go with Zoom's turn of phrase, thank you. :D

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Current workplace thought

    I am a heel for kicking out old dude from his broken down camper on client property. Even if she is living in the site.

    Secondary thought

    I have had a sore throat for a while, and there's this fat grain of rice on my tonsil.....i have not had rice in days

    You have tonsil-rice-is?

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    lonelyahavalonelyahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    On license plates discussion

    The state of Delaware has an interesting market for license plates. The original plates were black and white and released in numerical order starting with 1 and going up grin there. At some point the colours switched to blue background and yellow text, but the numbers kept increasing in value (for example my plates when I started driving was 437400).

    Sounds fairly standard so far, right? But those early plates? The black and white ones? They will go up for sale at auctions, usually estate auctions, and the lower the number, the more money they're worth.

    The number 20 plate went for just over $400k in 2018. Numbers 1,2, and 3 are reserved for the governor, ltgov, and sec state. The number 6 plate sold at one point for $700k.

    I love this quirk about my home state so much

    https://www.npr.org/2018/08/25/641835446/delaware-license-plate-sells-for-410-000

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Just tore a couple of management consultants into pieces. Shredded em. "You've taken a comment out of context and used it to create a narrative to get a foot in the door, but your narrative is incorrect and I want you to retract that statement you just made and never say it again" ooh I feel spicy

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    JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Current workplace thought

    I am a heel for kicking out old dude from his broken down camper on client property. Even if she is living in the site.

    Secondary thought

    I have had a sore throat for a while, and there's this fat grain of rice on my tonsil.....i have not had rice in days

    You have tonsil-rice-is?

    In all seriousness, it's probably a tonsillolith, in which case I'm very sorry they're annoying as shit.

    Also, be careful googling that, they're gross.

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Jragghen wrote: »
    Current workplace thought

    I am a heel for kicking out old dude from his broken down camper on client property. Even if she is living in the site.

    Secondary thought

    I have had a sore throat for a while, and there's this fat grain of rice on my tonsil.....i have not had rice in days

    You have tonsil-rice-is?

    In all seriousness, it's probably a tonsillolith, in which case I'm very sorry they're annoying as shit.

    Also, be careful googling that, they're gross.

    Sadly, i have no filter for terrible things.

    Been a lot of winter candy in this house, mouth hurts from cold.

    Lovely combo, now if only I were a smoker and drinker, they could have a little bacteria party

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    JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Jragghen wrote: »
    Current workplace thought

    I am a heel for kicking out old dude from his broken down camper on client property. Even if she is living in the site.

    Secondary thought

    I have had a sore throat for a while, and there's this fat grain of rice on my tonsil.....i have not had rice in days

    You have tonsil-rice-is?

    In all seriousness, it's probably a tonsillolith, in which case I'm very sorry they're annoying as shit.

    Also, be careful googling that, they're gross.

    Sadly, i have no filter for terrible things.

    Been a lot of winter candy in this house, mouth hurts from cold.

    Lovely combo, now if only I were a smoker and drinker, they could have a little bacteria party

    I've lived my whole life with them, basically, because I've got a ton of crypts and PND which seems to help cause them. It's basically just an extra level of hygene I have to pay attention to now.

    Try gargling salt water, that might work if it's your first time, so you probably don't have a deep crypt.

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    webguy20 wrote: »
    Absolutely miserable at my current job or I guess more generally miserable at my lack of education and job prospects at 30 years old making about $35k annually, get ready for a rant

    EDIT: God this is miserable. Hiding this behind a spoiler. Sorry all.
    I'm the sole employee under the warehouse manager and am finding myself having to organize and track inventory, do the heavy lifting, pick and pack orders, and manage my own time through the day

    He's really lax generally but I am chafing under the lack of structure and direction as well as effectively being at the mercy of the rest of management in the office

    It's a small seasonal business and I suppose I should be happy to have a job to begin with but I am feeling more severely underpaid with each passing week and resentful that I took this job in the first place

    We just wrapped our Christmas season a few weeks ago and it was a massive improvement over the previous year as I had the full year to prepare as opposed to a couple months when I joined the October before last
    To boil it down, we cut seasonal labour by ~25%, overtime cut by over half (though I'd need to get a better look at the records to be sure how much exactly), and we had similar order volume

    Most of this year's success was owing to the fact that I went through our entire inventory and counted it early in the year, 7 aisles of 10' high pallet racking sections with about 12 sections per aisle, three shelves per section, and three of those specifically reorganized and all handbombed due to the nature of the various items and rental equipment we keep, not to mention a whole separate tiny room with an eight foot racking section along its length with food items served for events that I also handled with minimal assistance

    My manager handles all the toy stuff - bigger footprint, more of a simple pick and pack operation, and I got to handle some of it this year and get a feel for it which has exacerbated my feelings as I find it much simpler to deal with - it's all just prepackaged toys with all distinct SKUs whereas for an event I'll need to pick and pack not just the main equipment going out for an event - popcorn machines, inflatables, whatever you might think of that a company might splash out for for a cheesy party for their staff and kids - but also a bunch of supporting equipment which may or may not be stored nearby, plus clothing for any staff onsite at the venues and emergency equipment if shit goes wrong

    I also had to manage the seasonal staff, primarily their time - to his credit my manager deals with anything truly unpleasant as far as personnel goes but I still resent having to account for a bunch of people when I'm not getting what I consider proper compensation for it, and besides we had a really good group this year which didn't give us much trouble to deal with beyond the odd missed day here or there due to sickness or whathaveyou

    In addition to everything else, the owners have been pushing for me to get my driver's license as they want me to do drop-offs and pick-ups as needed, whether for orders or just generally couriering stuff around. I've taken steps towards this, including getting into the first graduated stage of licensing* and looking up driver's ed courses since I'll certainly be wanting to cut my insurance costs. The driver's ed has the additional benefit of qualifying me for early graduation into the next stage of licensing in which I can drive unsupervised which is the major asset the owners are trying to get me into. Driver's ed will cost me $1250 at minimum depending on whether I want expanded courses (which I would prefer). One of the two owners cornered me shortly before season's end to ask if I haven't gotten into driver's ed due to a lack of money, to which I sheepishly admit. She suggests they'll help. I'm happy to hear it. They want me to be driving for them by February this year. I got my license June of last year - to drive unsupervised by February I need to get through the driver's ed course, minimally $1250 out of pocket.

    *
    This is a whole thing in Canada / Ontario. The G graduated license program involves three stages:
    G1 - You must carry a passenger in the front with you with 4+ years of driving experience, zero blood alcohol tolerance, no 400-series highways (our major freeways basically), no driving between certain wee hours of night.
    G2 - Essentially unrestricted beyond I believe certain numbers of passengers if you're under a certain age. Not really a practical concern for me.
    G - Full license, also the staging point beyond which you can get other classes of driver's license for straight trucks, busses, etc. etc.

    It's not 100% relevant to this situation but I should note that as a teenager and in my early 20s I used to drive a large pickup truck loaded up with an air compressor, heavy equipment, often dragging a trailer full of tires while working with my father repairing concrete pump and crane flats. After too many instances of not getting paid on time or at all, I stopped working with my dad and living in the city didn't feel any further inclination to drive since transit and cycling was always cheaper, so I stupidly let my license lapse without bothering to continue through the graduated program. So I should note I'm not a totally inexperienced driver, but still, shame on me.

    So for all of that, I see a calendar item for the Friday before Christmas, the day of our office party downtown, summoning me for a discussion for the future, and I go into it actually kind of optimistic since up to this point I've been busting my tail to get everything going and have taken some cleansing breaths, still in a state of surprise that our season has gone so smoothly after last year's saw some of us in the office into the wee hours some nights holding shit together. I sit down with the owners and I show them my notes on the driver's ed courses I'm looking at - $1250 at the low end with minimal road prep time, $1900 at the high end with much more road prep as well as specific training in hazardous conditions.

    I try to negotiate towards the higher end since I want to be as prepared as possible. I make a total idiot move and suggest that I could throw in a little money towards it since it's important to me to get that extra training.

    By the time the conversation is over, the one owner has negotiated that I should pay $400 into it, they're only interested in the low-end course, and I'm getting no further compensation. In fact, my manager suggested I should be happy about it because given the costs, I'm looking at practical compensation of about +$1/hr over what I'm currently making.

    I just kind of nodded along and went along with it at the time. Super let down, but ultimately not surprised given how goddamned cheap they are with everything else.

    I just don't know. I don't think I'm just some ingrate, and they're not exactly painting me like I am, but I don't think I've ever felt so let down in my life and I can't believe I've only really come to terms with how angry I am over it now.

    I'm not sure what steps to take next. I'm just livid the more I think of it. I think my boss can tell. He clearly feels badly - I got the job through him after leaving my previous one because he needed help and I was starting to hate my last one.

    I just feel... so stupid, all of the time. I'm hitting such a low point and I feel... maybe unreasonably so, but always suspicious that any career counseling service is either a shitty recruiter or a scam. I don't know where to go.

    I've almost certainly posted too much information here, I'm sure, but I just don't think I care anymore.

    Get your APICS certification. Or whatever The Canadian version is. Every who deals with supply chain down here loves it, and it opens a lot of doors into higher paying jobs and management.

    I will have to look into this APICS thing, I have never heard of it

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Catching up on thread, rather sad I missed the ahe gao conversation. Did inspire me to look up a male one.

    Look up on google the video results for "ahegao christmas hoodie." SFW but...its not a box full of hentai dvds raunchy but its damn funny.

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    On license plates discussion

    The state of Delaware has an interesting market for license plates. The original plates were black and white and released in numerical order starting with 1 and going up grin there. At some point the colours switched to blue background and yellow text, but the numbers kept increasing in value (for example my plates when I started driving was 437400).

    Sounds fairly standard so far, right? But those early plates? The black and white ones? They will go up for sale at auctions, usually estate auctions, and the lower the number, the more money they're worth.

    The number 20 plate went for just over $400k in 2018. Numbers 1,2, and 3 are reserved for the governor, ltgov, and sec state. The number 6 plate sold at one point for $700k.

    I love this quirk about my home state so much

    https://www.npr.org/2018/08/25/641835446/delaware-license-plate-sells-for-410-000

    Yep, old number plate collectors are a strange breed: https://www.domain.com.au/news/nsw-licence-plate-no-4-sold-for-record-245-million-to-chinese-billionaire-20170828-gy5g0r/

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    We did a real hall sweep today for the first time in years. After the bell all teachers locked their doors and security/plan teachers ushered all skippers to the cafeteria where administrators were set up. The students HATED it, it was hilarious! I really wish we'd regularly do this as we have a lot of problems with students just not going to class.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited January 2020
    How do I get my boss to stop wasting my time reexplaining a process that I already explained, that we already agreed upon a month ago, and that I already accomplished successfully once on one set of files. We don’t need to “make sure we’re on the same page” as we already were and have been on the same page for over a month.

    Apparently “no, we don’t need to meet and I don’t have the time” is not the solution, so any other ideas?

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    How do I get my boss to stop wasting my time reexplaining a process that I already explained, that we already agreed upon a month ago, and that I already accomplished successfully once on one set of files. We don’t need to “make sure we’re on the same page” as we already were and have been on the same page for over a month.

    Apparently “no, we don’t need to meet and I don’t have the time” is not the solution, so any other ideas?

    I would express your confusion to your boss, and ask why they think whatever process needs reviewed.

    Plain speaking really can clear the confusion, at least sometimes

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    edited January 2020
    SNOW DAY! SNOW DAY! SNOW DAY!

    Started as a two hour late start and ten minutes ago got upgraded to a whole day closed.

    Zonugal on
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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Me, scanning a document: I shall send this straight to my email
    Me when my phone bings literally three seconds later: oh shit!! who is sending me email???

    Talk about spooky action at a distance

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    SNOW DAY! SNOW DAY! SNOW DAY!

    Started as a two hour late start and ten minutes ago got upgraded to a whole day closed.

    Curse our efficient plow crews and ability to work remotely! Driving home from gaming last night was miserable though, 30-40 the whole way on the interstate...

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    I was informed by some staff that our school district's union had to fight for the right to not have to arrive early during a two-hour late start.

    Good on them! That sounds like it sucks!

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    IF anyone here works for the Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission in their debt department please

    please

    let me know so I can figure out what the ever-loving fuck you are trying to do with this fucking bond

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    mightyjongyomightyjongyo Sour Crrm East Bay, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    I had to drop a "per my last email" just now because someone claimed a service wasn't working and wanted to know what port to connect to and...it was literally in the email they replied to. The email was like...two sentences long. Come on man.

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    I had to drop a "per my last email" just now because someone claimed a service wasn't working and wanted to know what port to connect to and...it was literally in the email they replied to. The email was like...two sentences long. Come on man.

    They looked up the last email they had feom you to save them the trouble of working to type out your email address

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    Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    we have four printers in the immediate area of my work location. Two in my room, two in the next room. These things get used roughly ten million times per day. 3 of them are broken. One works, intermittently. We have submitted endless help tickets over the last couple of months. Finally one of us escalates this issue to our department manager so that he can hopefully get the ball rolling on this. He sends an email to IT that essentially says "my department needs new printers please expedite this we need it ASAP". A few days later a lower level manager showed us the chain of emails that this resulted in....

    it is such a giant clusterfuck. Its like

    Dept manager: "please expedite"
    IT manager: emails team: "please expedite"
    three different IT people: "has this user submitted a request? Oh I don't think we should move quickly on this because they have some remodel project"
    some next IT manager: "please for fucks sake ONLY ONE PERSON SEND EMAILS ABOUT THIS"
    manager one level below dept manager: "YOU FUCKWITS THIS DEPT WILL BE CRIPPLED WITHOUT THE USE OF A FUCKING PRINTER GET YOUR ACTS TOGETHER YOU DIPSHITS"

    (language exaggerated, however the meaning of their messages was effectively the same)

    Our printers seem to remain in a questionable state of operational readiness for some reason.

    I can't wait for the moment when our department has to explain that we couldn't perform some critical work because we can't print a fucking procedure.

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited January 2020
    As much as outsourcing is generally a pain I was 100% for them moving to an external contractor to support our printers. Nobody likes working with printers. They're evil and mysterious. They have moving parts that break.
    Having people whose whole job and area of expertise is servicing them is a godsend.

    Tofystedeth on
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    MrGrimoireMrGrimoire Pixflare Registered User regular
    It's very satisfying to smack a printer with a sledgehammer.

    Just make sure the insides aren't coated in toner first.

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    Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    It also amazes me how useless our IT department seems to be about it.

    Like, just replace the things. Just put new ones in already.

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    David_TDavid_T A fashion yes-man is no good to me. Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    edited January 2020
    I had to send an email going "we are not paying these invoices to you this month because you have unpaid invoices to us totalling $1.1M so... get on that, please".

    From time to time I'm reminded of the size of this operation. And how I probably shouldn't have this amount of influence on it.

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    I need everyone to start up the snow chants and get this possible weather on Friday to turn into a full snow day. We can do it people!

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    edited January 2020
    the thing about printers that really makes me laugh is that there's really only one advancement that anyone has found for them in twenty years, which is just putting a wi-fi module on them

    you know, a well-understood, fairly reliable technology which, when stuck to a printer, suddenly becomes total dogshit

    printers are such trash that they make other technology worse

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    My loathing for printers is in an unceasing and bitter war with my desire to scribble notes on papers while reading them (yes I've tried this digitally, somehow it's not the same)
    I think the advance I really want is large-scale flexible e-paper with a stylus. Periodically crawling through a thousand loose sheets of nonsense is evidently an important part of my workflow.

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    RadiationRadiation Registered User regular
    Hey @Cello not sure this web seminar thing would be of interest to you but I stumbled across it as I was looking for CAD training.
    https://fusion360.autodesk.com/events
    Fusion 360 for Industrial Engineers.
    Likely lower level than you need, but there might be some neat info there? I'm not too sure. Just recalling the conversation you and tynic had.

    PSN: jfrofl
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    MrGrimoireMrGrimoire Pixflare Registered User regular
    I generally get on fine with printers. I suspect the smell of their kin's blood still lingers.

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    expendableexpendable Silly Goose Registered User regular
    I don't fix printers.

    I exorcise them.
    I actually keep a huge container of salt on my desk and tell people that's what it's for.

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    expendable wrote: »
    I don't fix printers.

    I exorcise them.
    I actually keep a huge container of salt on my desk and tell people that's what it's for.

    I do the same thing but instead of salt it is a baseball bat.

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited January 2020
    tynic wrote: »
    My loathing for printers is in an unceasing and bitter war with my desire to scribble notes on papers while reading them (yes I've tried this digitally, somehow it's not the same)
    I think the advance I really want is large-scale flexible e-paper with a stylus. Periodically crawling through a thousand loose sheets of nonsense is evidently an important part of my workflow.

    I usually can get by without printing stuff but one time ended up printing out a PDF of a section of a data model I was working in that was like 3x3 pages and taping it together. Mostly so I could spread it out on my desk and follow lines while scribbling and muttering to myself.

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    DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    My loathing for printers is in an unceasing and bitter war with my desire to scribble notes on papers while reading them (yes I've tried this digitally, somehow it's not the same)
    I think the advance I really want is large-scale flexible e-paper with a stylus. Periodically crawling through a thousand loose sheets of nonsense is evidently an important part of my workflow.

    I usually can get by without printing stuff but one time ended up printing out a PDF of a section of a data model I was working in that was like 3x3 pages and taping it together. Mostly so I could spread it out on my desk and follow lines while scribbling and muttering to myself.

    Bring back the dot matrix!

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    I'm really surprised there hasn't been any breakthrough in printing to get rid of all these issues people have with them breaking constantly. Getting away from spinning and moving parts would improve their reliability a ton.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Doodmann wrote: »
    tynic wrote: »
    My loathing for printers is in an unceasing and bitter war with my desire to scribble notes on papers while reading them (yes I've tried this digitally, somehow it's not the same)
    I think the advance I really want is large-scale flexible e-paper with a stylus. Periodically crawling through a thousand loose sheets of nonsense is evidently an important part of my workflow.

    I usually can get by without printing stuff but one time ended up printing out a PDF of a section of a data model I was working in that was like 3x3 pages and taping it together. Mostly so I could spread it out on my desk and follow lines while scribbling and muttering to myself.

    Bring back the dot matrix!

    Yeah I loved ReBoot

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »
    tynic wrote: »
    My loathing for printers is in an unceasing and bitter war with my desire to scribble notes on papers while reading them (yes I've tried this digitally, somehow it's not the same)
    I think the advance I really want is large-scale flexible e-paper with a stylus. Periodically crawling through a thousand loose sheets of nonsense is evidently an important part of my workflow.

    I usually can get by without printing stuff but one time ended up printing out a PDF of a section of a data model I was working in that was like 3x3 pages and taping it together. Mostly so I could spread it out on my desk and follow lines while scribbling and muttering to myself.

    Bring back the dot matrix!

    Yeah I loved ReBoot

    Every time I see the word hexadecimal I hear it in Bob's voice.
    Hex!-a-decimal

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