I ran some numbers. Not to scare anyone, but just to drive home the fact that, if you can stay in your house, you should.
I posted this about 9 hours ago on my Facebook (because I still know a few folks that aren't taking this super seriously). Share it for the stubborn people in your life to drive home the seriousness of what we *could* face if we don't treat this like the problem that it actually is.
Total deaths via Covid in the US (so far):
2/29 - 1
3/1 - 1
3/2 - 6 (more than doubled in 3 days)
3/3 - 9
3/4 - 11
3/5 - 12 (doubled in 3 days)
3/6 - 15
3/7 - 19
3/8 - 22 (almost doubled in 3 days)
3/9 - 26
3/10 - 30
3/11 - 38 (almost doubled in 3 days)
3/12 - 41
3/13 - 48
3/14 - 57
3/15 - 69 (almost doubled in 4 days)
3/16 - 87
3/17 - 110
3/18 - 150 (more than doubled in 3 days)
3/19 - 206
3/20 - 255
3/21 - 301 (more than doubled in 3 days)
3/22 - 414
3/23 - 555 (almost doubled in 2 days)
3/24 - 780
3/25 - Currently, with a little over 2 hours left of this day, there are 1,031 cases, which means it almost doubled in 2 days again
Extrapolate that (based on doubling every 2 days), and we'll have 2,100 deaths by Friday.
4,200 by Sunday.
33,600 by next weekend.
Swine flu killed 12k in one year. Covid could kill 33,600 in about a *month a half*.
We will also very likely have the most active cases in the world by the beginning of next week at our current rate.
Flatten that curve, folks. Stay inside. Don't listen to political rhetoric: listen to medical professionals. Protect yourself, protect your family, and pray if you are the praying sort.
I also ran some numbers on my Twitter account if you're interested in that kind of thing.
If we continue at this rate, next Friday we will have almost 546,000 cases. Pop difference, yes, but it won't matter very soon.
In fact, comparing us to China might be better. The virus started there, after all.
They currently have 81,731 *known* cases. Out of 1.4 billion people, that's only .00006% of their population.
We're already at a .0002% *known* infection rate.
My point is this: If we continue at our current rate, the United States will have the most cases in the world percentage-wise (based on population), the most cases total period, and the most deaths period. And it won't even be close.
By next Friday.
I think those projections are high, and that the shifts in policy and behavior two weeks ago will bring that trajectory down. Somewhat. But one thing we can't forget is that the US is an incredibly populous nation. That other, smaller countries have more cases and deaths than us was largely a factor of how bad things were there, not how good they are here. It should always have been expected that, absent extreme luck or heroics, we would lead the way in infections and deaths, and by a decent margin. The other nations on par with us in population (or larger) are either entirely full of shit (China, Russia) or are likely even less capable than us of collecting and reporting real, accurate numbers at least for a while (India, Pakistan, etc).
I don’t think we’re going to see the curve flatten -nationwide- for about another four to five weeks in the least. The individual states that started social distancing earlier will start to see some flattening hopefully in the next week or two, but that’s also the same time all these states and other stupid idiots that have been spreading the virus will start to seek treatment. Plus, crossing state lines is still a thing, so all the current effort is going to be canceled out by dipshits that continue to spread this today.
After that is the absolute earliest I see social distancing happening nationwide, so it’ll still take another two to three weeks after that for the curve to flatten. Also don’t forget that all the medical personnel that just got exposed in the last week will also be symptomatic and unable to give care during this time, exacerbating the issue.
It’s really weird when I think about it. There are people alive and healthy right now that are going to catch this today because they are not taking this seriously. For the next two weeks, they are going to spread it once they become contagious, and then some of them will inevitably be dead in three weeks.
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We're very populous, but also very large. We are the third country in population, but #174 in population density. Iran's density is over twice ours. China's over four times ours. Italy's close to six. South Korea's fifteen. Our situation isn't much different than those countries in cities, but city-to-city spread is hampered by just how far it is between most of the major cities. So, for example, Detroit is among the worst hit cities in the US, but most of Michigan is not - just a two hour drive north of Detroit my city is so far limited to two households with foreign travel and people directly exposed by them.
Half our population is urban, and we have more than enough inter-city travel to facilitate spread between every major city and out to all but the smallest of towns. It's why Okanogan County, Washington has an active case as of right now. And may have more. As DD said, even in rural areas people congregate at churches, bars, and the local store.
We're very populous, but also very large. We are the third country in population, but #174 in population density. Iran's density is over twice ours. China's over four times ours. Italy's close to six. South Korea's fifteen. Our situation isn't much different than those countries in cities, but city-to-city spread is hampered by just how far it is between most of the major cities. So, for example, Detroit is among the worst hit cities in the US, but most of Michigan is not - just a two hour drive north of Detroit my city is so far limited to two households with foreign travel and people directly exposed by them.
Half our population is urban, and we have more than enough inter-city travel to facilitate spread between every major city and out to all but the smallest of towns. It's why Okanogan County, Washington has an active case as of right now. And may have more. As DD said, even in rural areas people congregate at churches, bars, and the local store.
Hopefully most of that intercity travel is stopped by now.
Please keep in mind much of the USA is very rural, but the people who live in those rural areas often all shop at the same stores.
Or work at the same places
Everyone goes to Wal-Mart except the upper middle class and wealthy, who go to the nearest urban areas to shop the fancier supermarkets and Costco/Sam's bulk stores on the weekends. We are decades away from when rural meant, "Isolated and lives off the land."
For the poor, there isn't even that much space for gardening. That's especially true for the South, where many rural areas are actually pretty dense in terms of house-to-house spacing because lots were once the property of big landowners who chopped them into the smallest sellable size since it is more profitable than dividing your land into big parcels.
We're very populous, but also very large. We are the third country in population, but #174 in population density. Iran's density is over twice ours. China's over four times ours. Italy's close to six. South Korea's fifteen. Our situation isn't much different than those countries in cities, but city-to-city spread is hampered by just how far it is between most of the major cities. So, for example, Detroit is among the worst hit cities in the US, but most of Michigan is not - just a two hour drive north of Detroit my city is so far limited to two households with foreign travel and people directly exposed by them.
Half our population is urban, and we have more than enough inter-city travel to facilitate spread between every major city and out to all but the smallest of towns. It's why Okanogan County, Washington has an active case as of right now. And may have more. As DD said, even in rural areas people congregate at churches, bars, and the local store.
Hopefully most of that intercity travel is stopped by now.
Probably, but I live right under the flight path of a major airport, and can report the planes still mostly take off as usual. So there's more than enough to keep things rolling.
I'm already seeing hot takes from holier-than-thou rural dwellers dunking on city living. And I just don't even know what to say to that.
"Nothing" has been my go-to reply for now, because it's dumb on so many levels I can't even figure out where to start.
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I am showing symptoms of pancreatitis again, usually I can just deal but this times the worst it’s been. Very bad timing. Either expose myself to the ER or potentially really weaken my immune system...
maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
So WI had is lockdown order come through yesterday, but the threshold for essential is so low someone dying from asphyxiation could crawl over it. "Fabricators" are considered essential. So basically....every manufacturing business.
Today on my lunch walk I saw a city crew doing landscaping in a closed playground. Even the fucking local governments aren't taking this shit seriously.
Also I considered stopping on my way home and getting a pistol. Talking to my doctor friend he admitted to the same impulse. He's went from pretty nonchalant to really scared in literally the last week. And when one white-privilege king cis male is admitting to another about being afraid you know shit is getting real.
Meanwhile, over hear in liberal heaven, I went out yesterday to deliver groceries to an elderly woman and Madison is more dead than Christmas morning. Rush hour traffic normally makes my 5 minute drive downtown into a 20 minute drive, but it's not now because most people are following orders. The few people I did see out (like construction or maintenance crews) were keeping 6 feet of distance every time I looked.
To be honest, this is an amazing time to get some needed maintenance done.
Despite the absurd amounts of work we have to do at work still and all of us being WAH for the foreseeable future, the company decided to let people go today, mostly based on seniority.
Which included me.
So yeah, the travel industry is hit real hard with this right now.
I'm already seeing hot takes from holier-than-thou rural dwellers dunking on city living. And I just don't even know what to say to that.
"Nothing" has been my go-to reply for now, because it's dumb on so many levels I can't even figure out where to start.
Then tell those fucks that when gam-gam needs medical treatment, she can die out in her local GP's office. Tell them not to fly her sick ass into one of these dirty cities to make use of our hospitals.
I ran some numbers. Not to scare anyone, but just to drive home the fact that, if you can stay in your house, you should.
I posted this about 9 hours ago on my Facebook (because I still know a few folks that aren't taking this super seriously). Share it for the stubborn people in your life to drive home the seriousness of what we *could* face if we don't treat this like the problem that it actually is.
Total deaths via Covid in the US (so far):
2/29 - 1
3/1 - 1
3/2 - 6 (more than doubled in 3 days)
3/3 - 9
3/4 - 11
3/5 - 12 (doubled in 3 days)
3/6 - 15
3/7 - 19
3/8 - 22 (almost doubled in 3 days)
3/9 - 26
3/10 - 30
3/11 - 38 (almost doubled in 3 days)
3/12 - 41
3/13 - 48
3/14 - 57
3/15 - 69 (almost doubled in 4 days)
3/16 - 87
3/17 - 110
3/18 - 150 (more than doubled in 3 days)
3/19 - 206
3/20 - 255
3/21 - 301 (more than doubled in 3 days)
3/22 - 414
3/23 - 555 (almost doubled in 2 days)
3/24 - 780
3/25 - Currently, with a little over 2 hours left of this day, there are 1,031 cases, which means it almost doubled in 2 days again
Extrapolate that (based on doubling every 2 days), and we'll have 2,100 deaths by Friday.
4,200 by Sunday.
33,600 by next weekend.
Swine flu killed 12k in one year. Covid could kill 33,600 in about a *month a half*.
We will also very likely have the most active cases in the world by the beginning of next week at our current rate.
Flatten that curve, folks. Stay inside. Don't listen to political rhetoric: listen to medical professionals. Protect yourself, protect your family, and pray if you are the praying sort.
I also ran some numbers on my Twitter account if you're interested in that kind of thing.
If we continue at this rate, next Friday we will have almost 546,000 cases. Pop difference, yes, but it won't matter very soon.
In fact, comparing us to China might be better. The virus started there, after all.
They currently have 81,731 *known* cases. Out of 1.4 billion people, that's only .00006% of their population.
We're already at a .0002% *known* infection rate.
My point is this: If we continue at our current rate, the United States will have the most cases in the world percentage-wise (based on population), the most cases total period, and the most deaths period. And it won't even be close.
By next Friday.
I think those projections are high, and that the shifts in policy and behavior two weeks ago will bring that trajectory down. Somewhat. But one thing we can't forget is that the US is an incredibly populous nation. That other, smaller countries have more cases and deaths than us was largely a factor of how bad things were there, not how good they are here. It should always have been expected that, absent extreme luck or heroics, we would lead the way in infections and deaths, and by a decent margin. The other nations on par with us in population (or larger) are either entirely full of shit (China, Russia) or are likely even less capable than us of collecting and reporting real, accurate numbers at least for a while (India, Pakistan, etc).
I don’t think we’re going to see the curve flatten -nationwide- for about another four to five weeks in the least.
Shit, my governor (Sununu/NH) flat out said that the state is anticipating that the peak for us will be sometime early May. For Midwest states that are lagging behind the coasts, it's going to be even later than that.
Despite the absurd amounts of work we have to do at work still and all of us being WAH for the foreseeable future, the company decided to let people go today, mostly based on seniority.
Which included me.
So yeah, the travel industry is hit real hard with this right now.
Friend of mine definitely has it. Frightning description of the symptoms, and the difficulty he's having breathing and the effort to do things like brush his teeth. Dr. did the 20 questions, recommended he get tested, rushed it to the specialist, even noted that he had recently (not like...since this thing started, but recently) traveled in Spain. Request was rejected because of lack of tests available and that he was historically a very healthy person.
It sounds like he's starting to do a little better and over the worst of it, but good lord.
I think today / yesterday was the time when my morbid fascination and devouring of all info about the virus, but not fear, finally tipped into concern / fear. I attribute it to having Muscular Dystrophy and living with my 70 year old parents, so the entire household is high risk. We haven't gone out and I convinced them to let my brother go shopping for us, so I felt completely fine....but as time passes, it's starting to feel like our government is handling it poorly / worse than most countries and that directly threatens my household.
I think that came to a head some time yesterday when the "War" talk escalated and talk of sacrifice.
It's not a fucking war.
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The continuous lack of available tests is astounding to me.
Solving that problem is like the first step for the world recovering from all of this to get required in person operations safely continuing. Regular Rapid testing is like a requirement of getting warehouse crews back to anything even remotely resembling regular working order, or to get like plumbers back in houses and shit like that.
The continuous lack of available tests is astounding to me.
Roche is at least partially to blame. The dominant test relies on machine that runs on a lysis buffer that is patented and whose recepture is not completely known. This lysis buffer is in extremely short supply and Roche is refusing to release the formula. It's insanity.
I fully expect in the months to come we'll see smaller localized lockdowns as areas flareup.
It’s not really a national lockdown though. It’s individual states locking down some things while the federal government pretends things are fine, back to work citizen!
All those spring breakers, red states, and general assholes that have been ignoring this are going to start being symptomatic in the next week or two, right at the same time as all the healthcare workers that just got exposed, because they lack proper protection and have a higher risk rate, will start getting sick. This isn’t even counting all the other essential people to national wellbeing getting sick, like food distribution, firefighters, police, and other emergency and utility personnel will start getting sick too.
So in about a week or two, things will start getting really bad. Then add another week or two for things to continue to escalate to the point where Trump even begins to feel pressure to do something. Then another two to three weeks after that for the lag time to start flattening the curve.
There’s gonna be clusters, there always is, but nationwide, things will start to look pretty dire IMO. Keep in mind that people coming out of New York are being suggested to self isolate by the CDC, just like how people leaving China back in January were suggested to do the same thing. We’re not even close to the curve yet.
I think we’re gonna be living in a much different country by the end of April.
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I fully expect in the months to come we'll see smaller localized lockdowns as areas flareup.
It’s not really a national lockdown though. It’s individual states locking down some things while the federal government pretends things are fine, back to work citizen!
Hell, Mississippi just effectively outlawed all current shelter in place orders in the State. Meaning residents there are reliant on the graciousness of their employer.
My county has its first confirmed positive case. I felt weird wanting this to happen. People were behaving like this was a pandemic that was happening somewhere else. Maybe now it’ll feel a little more like a threat and people will stay the fuck home.
I’ve been wondering if Europe as a whole might be a better model for the US than any one country. The patchwork nature of our response especially seems to support that view.
So Europe with no will to limit Schengen zone travel, maybe.
My city is locked down, but I'm still coming in to work. Apparently we are a "Healthcare Supplier" now, which is only kinda true. But they could easily send 2/3rds of us home and run the production line with only the actual production workers, which would be safer for both them and us. But they aren't because all our upper management is 60+ years old and "we just think people are more productive in the office"
But a lot of our customers and vendors are shutting down, so soon there will be no orders and nothing to make.
A friend of mine works for an automotive supplier and the factory shut down not because they had to (auto industry is 'essential'), but because their orders went to zero. Not reduced, literally zero. The 1000+ worker plant has no work for the foreseeable future. Fucking terrifying.
My county has its first confirmed positive case. I felt weird wanting this to happen. People were behaving like this was a pandemic that was happening somewhere else. Maybe now it’ll feel a little more like a threat and people will stay the fuck home.
Probably not. I'm in rural Saskatchewan and as cases grow each day people are still pretending it isn't real. Constantly seeing old neighbors coming and going from their homes and having coffee guests like nothing has changed. It's sadly going to take people they know to get really sick and maybe die before it's real to them I guess.
This whole thing is also the nail in the coffin for the climate crisis, because if we can't take a clear and present danger seriously to save ourselves, then we are clearly never going to be able to take that seriously.
The continuous lack of available tests is astounding to me.
We have a guy in my shop home with cough and sore throat. Probably not infected, but self-quarantining just in case. Boss is saying he needs to get tested, or come in. Nobody in positions where it matters seems able to wrap their mind around the fact that there are no "confirmed cases" in most areas that aren't on the way to being admitted. You can't just "get tested." They ain't testing anybody off the street. The doctor will tell you to self-isolate, and that's that. That's all you get.
And so many people don't understand why testing is important. Especially when everything's already closed. And it's because of this...some places are still open, some people are still working. And half the reason we have to go to full shelter-in-place orders in the first place is because we have no ability to test and isolate individuals at scale.
re: beards, I shaved mine off yesterday because it itched a bit here and there and I kept touching it at work.
My work (the one who claims they make medical supplies and are therefore totally essential) has been stellar lately. They decided that the best way to show how much they appreciate putting us at risk (~100 people left in the building) is to hire one of the manager's friend's hot dog food truck.
Also, one of my coworkers asked if she could donate her PTO to an employee who can't come in cause he just finished using all his own PTO in chemotherapy. She was told, "no, it creates a tax problem."
Also, one of my coworkers asked if she could donate her PTO to an employee who can't come in cause he just finished using all his own PTO in chemotherapy. She was told, "no, it creates a tax problem."
lol that's not true
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
The continuous lack of available tests is astounding to me.
We have a guy in my shop home with cough and sore throat. Probably not infected, but self-quarantining just in case. Boss is saying he needs to get tested, or come in. Nobody in positions where it matters seems able to wrap their mind around the fact that there are no "confirmed cases" in most areas that aren't on the way to being admitted. You can't just "get tested." They ain't testing anybody off the street. The doctor will tell you to self-isolate, and that's that. That's all you get.
And so many people don't understand why testing is important. Especially when everything's already closed. And it's because of this...some places are still open, some people are still working. And half the reason we have to go to full shelter-in-place orders in the first place is because we have no ability to test and isolate individuals at scale.
The sheer scale of ineptitude in our response is too much for a lot of people and so they go Just World Fallacy to excuse it because things can't be that bad. If it were the government would fix it.
Also, one of my coworkers asked if she could donate her PTO to an employee who can't come in cause he just finished using all his own PTO in chemotherapy. She was told, "no, it creates a tax problem."
To be fair, it’s good they didn’t allow this
To be fairer fuck them for the response not being “there’s no need [person x] is going to get the time he needs to be safe”
The continuous lack of available tests is astounding to me.
There is a testing facility down the street from me, with the patient parking area marked with big giant "Event Parking" signs, and a small sign at the entrance that says to contact staff about testing procedures. Just about everytime I look there isn't a single car parked for a patient being tested. Occasionally there is 1, sometimes 2 or 3 cars, and only once has there been 4 cars parked there.
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anddd the USA just passed Italy for # of confirmed cases
USA : 75,066
Italy : 74,386
To be fair, Italy hasn't yet reported their numbers for today
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The continuous lack of available tests is astounding to me.
There is a testing facility down the street from me, with the patient parking area marked with big giant "Event Parking" signs, and a small sign at the entrance that says to contact staff about testing procedures. Just about everytime I look there isn't a single car parked for a patient being tested. Occasionally there is 1, sometimes 2 or 3 cars, and only once has there been 4 cars parked there.
Gotta keep those numbers low. Better to just not test, I guess.
(I screamed internally as I wrote that.)
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Also, one of my coworkers asked if she could donate her PTO to an employee who can't come in cause he just finished using all his own PTO in chemotherapy. She was told, "no, it creates a tax problem."
anddd the USA just passed Italy for # of confirmed cases
USA : 75,066
Italy : 74,386
To be fair, Italy hasn't yet reported their numbers for today
All things equal, we should end up with roughly 5x as many cases as Italy right? If we end up anywhere near the name number of cases, that'd be a success.
Also, one of my coworkers asked if she could donate her PTO to an employee who can't come in cause he just finished using all his own PTO in chemotherapy. She was told, "no, it creates a tax problem."
Even gooder news! We have our first confirmed case in another plant. Here we go!
The continuous lack of available tests is astounding to me.
We have a guy in my shop home with cough and sore throat. Probably not infected, but self-quarantining just in case. Boss is saying he needs to get tested, or come in. Nobody in positions where it matters seems able to wrap their mind around the fact that there are no "confirmed cases" in most areas that aren't on the way to being admitted. You can't just "get tested." They ain't testing anybody off the street. The doctor will tell you to self-isolate, and that's that. That's all you get.
And so many people don't understand why testing is important. Especially when everything's already closed. And it's because of this...some places are still open, some people are still working. And half the reason we have to go to full shelter-in-place orders in the first place is because we have no ability to test and isolate individuals at scale.
The sheer scale of ineptitude in our response is too much for a lot of people and so they go Just World Fallacy to excuse it because things can't be that bad. If it were the government would fix it.
No one believes right-wing policy is real because no one could be that monstrous. Not when it's proposed and apparently not when it's enacted either. I guess until a bunch of people start dying. Maybe.
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau confirmed during a morning press conference that Trump wants to station soldiers near the Canada-US border.
American government officials inside Donald Trump’s White House are actively discussing putting troops near the Canadian borders in light of U.S. border security concerns around the coronavirus pandemic, sources tell Global News.
Few people cross from Canada into the United States at an unofficial point each year but the goal of the policy would be to help border guards detect irregular crossers, the sources said.
From the Updates thread, but in what world is this remotely necessary? There isn't nearly enough irregular border crossing on the north end to be worth deploying troops to stop it. Not when we are the epicenter of the epidemic in the world now.
I had to double check to make sure this wasn't at Canada's request. Because that's the only way that it would make sense. But no, we're about to militarize the longest unmilitarized border in the world, so a toddler can tell all the mommies and daddies that he did a thing.
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I don’t think we’re going to see the curve flatten -nationwide- for about another four to five weeks in the least. The individual states that started social distancing earlier will start to see some flattening hopefully in the next week or two, but that’s also the same time all these states and other stupid idiots that have been spreading the virus will start to seek treatment. Plus, crossing state lines is still a thing, so all the current effort is going to be canceled out by dipshits that continue to spread this today.
After that is the absolute earliest I see social distancing happening nationwide, so it’ll still take another two to three weeks after that for the curve to flatten. Also don’t forget that all the medical personnel that just got exposed in the last week will also be symptomatic and unable to give care during this time, exacerbating the issue.
It’s really weird when I think about it. There are people alive and healthy right now that are going to catch this today because they are not taking this seriously. For the next two weeks, they are going to spread it once they become contagious, and then some of them will inevitably be dead in three weeks.
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Half our population is urban, and we have more than enough inter-city travel to facilitate spread between every major city and out to all but the smallest of towns. It's why Okanogan County, Washington has an active case as of right now. And may have more. As DD said, even in rural areas people congregate at churches, bars, and the local store.
Hopefully most of that intercity travel is stopped by now.
Everyone goes to Wal-Mart except the upper middle class and wealthy, who go to the nearest urban areas to shop the fancier supermarkets and Costco/Sam's bulk stores on the weekends. We are decades away from when rural meant, "Isolated and lives off the land."
For the poor, there isn't even that much space for gardening. That's especially true for the South, where many rural areas are actually pretty dense in terms of house-to-house spacing because lots were once the property of big landowners who chopped them into the smallest sellable size since it is more profitable than dividing your land into big parcels.
Probably, but I live right under the flight path of a major airport, and can report the planes still mostly take off as usual. So there's more than enough to keep things rolling.
"Nothing" has been my go-to reply for now, because it's dumb on so many levels I can't even figure out where to start.
maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
Meanwhile, over hear in liberal heaven, I went out yesterday to deliver groceries to an elderly woman and Madison is more dead than Christmas morning. Rush hour traffic normally makes my 5 minute drive downtown into a 20 minute drive, but it's not now because most people are following orders. The few people I did see out (like construction or maintenance crews) were keeping 6 feet of distance every time I looked.
To be honest, this is an amazing time to get some needed maintenance done.
“Every society is three meals away from chaos”
Which included me.
So yeah, the travel industry is hit real hard with this right now.
Then tell those fucks that when gam-gam needs medical treatment, she can die out in her local GP's office. Tell them not to fly her sick ass into one of these dirty cities to make use of our hospitals.
Shit, my governor (Sununu/NH) flat out said that the state is anticipating that the peak for us will be sometime early May. For Midwest states that are lagging behind the coasts, it's going to be even later than that.
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That sucks, man.
I fully expect in the months to come we'll see smaller localized lockdowns as areas flareup.
It sounds like he's starting to do a little better and over the worst of it, but good lord.
I think that came to a head some time yesterday when the "War" talk escalated and talk of sacrifice.
It's not a fucking war.
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Solving that problem is like the first step for the world recovering from all of this to get required in person operations safely continuing. Regular Rapid testing is like a requirement of getting warehouse crews back to anything even remotely resembling regular working order, or to get like plumbers back in houses and shit like that.
Roche is at least partially to blame. The dominant test relies on machine that runs on a lysis buffer that is patented and whose recepture is not completely known. This lysis buffer is in extremely short supply and Roche is refusing to release the formula. It's insanity.
It’s not really a national lockdown though. It’s individual states locking down some things while the federal government pretends things are fine, back to work citizen!
All those spring breakers, red states, and general assholes that have been ignoring this are going to start being symptomatic in the next week or two, right at the same time as all the healthcare workers that just got exposed, because they lack proper protection and have a higher risk rate, will start getting sick. This isn’t even counting all the other essential people to national wellbeing getting sick, like food distribution, firefighters, police, and other emergency and utility personnel will start getting sick too.
So in about a week or two, things will start getting really bad. Then add another week or two for things to continue to escalate to the point where Trump even begins to feel pressure to do something. Then another two to three weeks after that for the lag time to start flattening the curve.
There’s gonna be clusters, there always is, but nationwide, things will start to look pretty dire IMO. Keep in mind that people coming out of New York are being suggested to self isolate by the CDC, just like how people leaving China back in January were suggested to do the same thing. We’re not even close to the curve yet.
I think we’re gonna be living in a much different country by the end of April.
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Hell, Mississippi just effectively outlawed all current shelter in place orders in the State. Meaning residents there are reliant on the graciousness of their employer.
So Europe with no will to limit Schengen zone travel, maybe.
I'm in the midst of helping to support initiatives with reporting that will support people working from home with technology and such.
edit: "our idiot leader" refers to the president of the US, not my company's CEO.
But a lot of our customers and vendors are shutting down, so soon there will be no orders and nothing to make.
A friend of mine works for an automotive supplier and the factory shut down not because they had to (auto industry is 'essential'), but because their orders went to zero. Not reduced, literally zero. The 1000+ worker plant has no work for the foreseeable future. Fucking terrifying.
Probably not. I'm in rural Saskatchewan and as cases grow each day people are still pretending it isn't real. Constantly seeing old neighbors coming and going from their homes and having coffee guests like nothing has changed. It's sadly going to take people they know to get really sick and maybe die before it's real to them I guess.
This whole thing is also the nail in the coffin for the climate crisis, because if we can't take a clear and present danger seriously to save ourselves, then we are clearly never going to be able to take that seriously.
We have a guy in my shop home with cough and sore throat. Probably not infected, but self-quarantining just in case. Boss is saying he needs to get tested, or come in. Nobody in positions where it matters seems able to wrap their mind around the fact that there are no "confirmed cases" in most areas that aren't on the way to being admitted. You can't just "get tested." They ain't testing anybody off the street. The doctor will tell you to self-isolate, and that's that. That's all you get.
And so many people don't understand why testing is important. Especially when everything's already closed. And it's because of this...some places are still open, some people are still working. And half the reason we have to go to full shelter-in-place orders in the first place is because we have no ability to test and isolate individuals at scale.
My work (the one who claims they make medical supplies and are therefore totally essential) has been stellar lately. They decided that the best way to show how much they appreciate putting us at risk (~100 people left in the building) is to hire one of the manager's friend's hot dog food truck.
I made this sloppy meme in response:
lol that's not true
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
The sheer scale of ineptitude in our response is too much for a lot of people and so they go Just World Fallacy to excuse it because things can't be that bad. If it were the government would fix it.
To be fair, it’s good they didn’t allow this
To be fairer fuck them for the response not being “there’s no need [person x] is going to get the time he needs to be safe”
There is a testing facility down the street from me, with the patient parking area marked with big giant "Event Parking" signs, and a small sign at the entrance that says to contact staff about testing procedures. Just about everytime I look there isn't a single car parked for a patient being tested. Occasionally there is 1, sometimes 2 or 3 cars, and only once has there been 4 cars parked there.
USA : 75,066
Italy : 74,386
To be fair, Italy hasn't yet reported their numbers for today
Gotta keep those numbers low. Better to just not test, I guess.
(I screamed internally as I wrote that.)
All things equal, we should end up with roughly 5x as many cases as Italy right? If we end up anywhere near the name number of cases, that'd be a success.
Even gooder news! We have our first confirmed case in another plant. Here we go!
No one believes right-wing policy is real because no one could be that monstrous. Not when it's proposed and apparently not when it's enacted either. I guess until a bunch of people start dying. Maybe.
From the Updates thread, but in what world is this remotely necessary? There isn't nearly enough irregular border crossing on the north end to be worth deploying troops to stop it. Not when we are the epicenter of the epidemic in the world now.
I had to double check to make sure this wasn't at Canada's request. Because that's the only way that it would make sense. But no, we're about to militarize the longest unmilitarized border in the world, so a toddler can tell all the mommies and daddies that he did a thing.