mcconnell couldn't even repeal the aca with full control over the government.
this is just trump trying to save face, it will accomplish nothing. there is no voter fraud, and as such there is nothing any court could do, biden is already ahead. any times courts have changed a race it was due to an order to stop counting.
Without the Senate we can still EO away Federal debt, bring back the 'no making you work 80 hour weeks for $26k / year' rules Obama almost got through, and a million things big and small to make everyone's lives better as long as we stay in the White House.
Senate makes things longer lasting, but a lot of the wishlist can get checked off for at least four years. And four years of EO for climate is pretty vital. It was 80* here in Michigan today.
Keeping the base angry is whatever, they had Bronzer Bastard on the ballot and still got outvoted
The only real question in the GA runoff is: Can we turn out enough of our people
In Stacey Abrams we trust.
Man, I hope so. Biden took the state by a handful of votes, and he outperformed Dem senators pretty much across the board. In both senate races, the number of people voting for Pubs outstripped the number voting for Dems, and by 10 points in the case of the special election.
If the electorate in the runoff looks like the electorate in the general, the Dems lose, plain and simple.
We're not doomed or anything, but getting even one of these is a longshot.
Wait, what? Like yes Warnock alone ran 10 points behind Loeffler/Collins combined, but there were many more people in the election and the next four Dem candidates or so were a total of 13.5% of the vote. Looking at the results that show up on google, adding up the percents of Dem candidates gets me something like 48% of all voters with 2.3% or so going to independent/green/libertarian candidates. I don't think Warnock's in as bad shape as you imply here.
Really? Cool. I looked at the top 4 or 5 candidates on the CNN results page and the total GOP tally was higher than the total Dem tally, but if there were several Dems i didn't catch and the total for Dems was higher than the total for Pubs, excellent.
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warnock was also ahead in h2h polls of that race iirc. not that it really matters because the turnout environment is going to be totally different, but i don't think it's a foregone conclusion that we're gonna lose both races.
There were a LOT of candidates in that special election. I think just shy of 2 dozen? Really tough to get a sense for how that would break down when it's just 2 but yeah the vote was reasonably close for both races.
If Biden forgives $50k of my student loans I'll happily vote democrat until I die.
i'm very easy to bribe.
my husband and I are very close to paying off his student loans, and we've been aggressively putting more money towards it since our incomes went up. if other people just have their debt magically 'forgiven' after all of our hard work I will be
fucking delighted
we are so privileged as a couple and it was such still a pain to pay them off, it's so much worse for other people that aren't in our position. burn the debt notices in a big pile, Joker style
They’re highly likely to retain the senate and expand their majority if not also take the presidency and house in 2024
They have already won the Supreme Court
They are not risking the violence of overturning the vote on 2020 when they’re going to get everything they want back soon anyway. This is all a show for the big orange baby until after the GA special when they can memory hole him.
They cannot expand their Majority in the Senate. Democrats already have a +1 pickup. The question is whether that's all it is or if we get +3.
Maybe? But I said for months Trump has no legit path to winning. So I was never really scared Tuesday. This is what I’ve been afraid of and we needed an overwhelming mandate to stop it.
I THINK we got enough? But I’m not remotely confident in that fact
We’re relying on the good graces of the most partisan court ever to save us.
we're not. Even if the Court rules that State Legislatures are the sole arbiter of how an election can be conducted and no Court can speak against them, we still win in PA.
The @US_FDA and the Democrats didn’t want to have me get a Vaccine WIN, prior to the election, so instead it came out five days later – As I’ve said all along!
When does this become an argument for why he should get to stay in power despite losing the vote?
Ah, I see Barr is breaking out the old favorites. Order the DOJ to do something, knowing it'll only make waves in the news. Like the Hunter Biden investigation, I see this one coming back as a nothingburger with so little value that they don't even file a brief.
Maybe? But I said for months Trump has no legit path to winning. So I was never really scared Tuesday. This is what I’ve been afraid of and we needed an overwhelming mandate to stop it.
I THINK we got enough? But I’m not remotely confident in that fact
We’re relying on the good graces of the most partisan court ever to save us.
we're not. Even if the Court rules that State Legislatures are the sole arbiter of how an election can be conducted and no Court can speak against them, we still win in PA.
The fear is that SCOTUS isn't going to base this on legality and precedent
Given who is now on the court and what they've written about the election so far, it's not an unfounded fear
"and the morning stars I have seen
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
The @US_FDA and the Democrats didn’t want to have me get a Vaccine WIN, prior to the election, so instead it came out five days later – As I’ve said all along!
When does this become an argument for why he should get to stay in power despite losing the vote?
Chuck Schumer to AnandWrites:
argues for an FDR-like first 100 days.
Says they will focus on:
climate
$15 minimum wage
infrastructure bill that will also employee ppl w/ prison records
student debt cancellation via executive order
immigration
The author is a reporter for Politico.
$15 minimum wage? I'm moving to mississippi!
I know, I know, it's a good thing. But that ain't shit in many california cities.
The @US_FDA and the Democrats didn’t want to have me get a Vaccine WIN, prior to the election, so instead it came out five days later – As I’ve said all along!
When does this become an argument for why he should get to stay in power despite losing the vote?
Weren't they trying to take credit for this themselves just a few hours ago?
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The @US_FDA and the Democrats didn’t want to have me get a Vaccine WIN, prior to the election, so instead it came out five days later – As I’ve said all along!
When does this become an argument for why he should get to stay in power despite losing the vote?
Weren't they trying to take credit for this themselves just a few hours ago?
Pfizer dunked on the claim by Pence, so pivot.
Plus, are we really expecting Trump's personal messaging to finally become consistent with the rest of his administration's?
Maybe? But I said for months Trump has no legit path to winning. So I was never really scared Tuesday. This is what I’ve been afraid of and we needed an overwhelming mandate to stop it.
I THINK we got enough? But I’m not remotely confident in that fact
We’re relying on the good graces of the most partisan court ever to save us.
we're not. Even if the Court rules that State Legislatures are the sole arbiter of how an election can be conducted and no Court can speak against them, we still win in PA.
The fear is that SCOTUS isn't going to base this on legality and precedent
Given who is now on the court and what they've written about the election so far, it's not an unfounded fear
I know the fear, but like
blue sky it in the most bullshit sense you can think of. What's the legal argument that gives Trump a win? How do you do that and remain consistent with actual votes cast on or before election day?
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The @US_FDA and the Democrats didn’t want to have me get a Vaccine WIN, prior to the election, so instead it came out five days later – As I’ve said all along!
When does this become an argument for why he should get to stay in power despite losing the vote?
it would have been dishonest to let him take credit for it as Pfizer specifically opted out of his public-private partnership because they didn't want their research funding to be at the whims of an idiot child
If Biden forgives $50k of my student loans I'll happily vote democrat until I die.
i'm very easy to bribe.
my husband and I are very close to paying off his student loans, and we've been aggressively putting more money towards it since our incomes went up. if other people just have their debt magically 'forgiven' after all of our hard work I will be
fucking delighted
we are so privileged as a couple and it was such still a pain to pay them off, it's so much worse for other people that aren't in our position. burn the debt notices in a big pile, Joker style
I know it doesn't apply to everyone for various reasons.
But my wife and I were talking about how hard and for how long into our careers we were paying off (mostly her) student loans.
All I think is how nice it will be our daughter doesn't have to make college choices about how she will pay off her loans. Or that instead of us having to put her through college we we can take the money and put it toward her house downpayment or other things that become generational wealth.
And if its means tested, we are still fine.
Think about how good it would be for the economy if millions of 20-30 year olds suddenly had anywhere from $200 to...$1500? in extra cash a month they can spend on entertainment, renovations, cars, etc instead of making loan payments.
Some senior lawyers at Jones Day, one of the country’s largest law firms, are worried that it is advancing arguments that lack evidence and may be helping Mr. Trump and his allies undermine the integrity of American elections, according to interviews with nine partners and associates, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to protect their jobs.
At another large firm, Porter Wright Morris & Arthur, based in Columbus, Ohio, lawyers have held internal meetings to voice similar concerns about their firm’s election-related work for Mr. Trump and the Republican Party, according to people at the firm. At least one lawyer quit in protest.
In recent days, two Jones Day lawyers said they had faced heckling from friends and others on social media about working at a firm that is supporting Mr. Trump’s efforts.
If they don't like undermining democracy, they could just quit
Even if Trump gets the results of 1 state flipped (he won’t!), Biden is still president
Even if Trump gets the results of 2 states flipped (fucking lolzers), Biden is still President
Literally the only way Trump walks away from this with a W is if SCOTUS declares all votes for Biden are actually nega-votes and so by law he actually is further away from being president than when he started
Which, I don’t think I need to tell you all, is *Swedish chef noises*
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ICYMI: Why is @Pfizer
financing #Covid19 #vaccine development on its own - instead of accepting government funding?
$PFE CEO Albert Bourla says “I wanted to liberate our scientists from any bureaucracy. When you get money from someone...that always comes with strings.”
Some senior lawyers at Jones Day, one of the country’s largest law firms, are worried that it is advancing arguments that lack evidence and may be helping Mr. Trump and his allies undermine the integrity of American elections, according to interviews with nine partners and associates, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to protect their jobs.
At another large firm, Porter Wright Morris & Arthur, based in Columbus, Ohio, lawyers have held internal meetings to voice similar concerns about their firm’s election-related work for Mr. Trump and the Republican Party, according to people at the firm. At least one lawyer quit in protest.
In recent days, two Jones Day lawyers said they had faced heckling from friends and others on social media about working at a firm that is supporting Mr. Trump’s efforts.
If they don't like undermining democracy, they could just quit
Wait fucking Porter Wright is supporting Trump?????
ICYMI: Why is @Pfizer
financing #Covid19 #vaccine development on its own - instead of accepting government funding?
$PFE CEO Albert Bourla says “I wanted to liberate our scientists from any bureaucracy. When you get money from someone...that always comes with strings.”
mcconnell couldn't even repeal the aca with full control over the government.
this is just trump trying to save face, it will accomplish nothing. there is no voter fraud, and as such there is nothing any court could do, biden is already ahead. any times courts have changed a race it was due to an order to stop counting.
I really don't think we can be sure this will amount to nothing. It's an attempted coup! It's a big fucking deal. I don't know what's likely to happen, but I don't think I have a ton of confidence that American institutions won't buckle under the pressure.
Even if Trump gets the results of 1 state flipped (he won’t!), Biden is still president
Even if Trump gets the results of 2 states flipped (fucking lolzers), Biden is still President
Literally the only way Trump walks away from this with a W is if SCOTUS declares all votes for Biden are actually nega-votes and so by law he actually is further away from being president than when he started
Which, I don’t think I need to tell you all, is *Swedish chef noises*
Pretty much, yeah!
and I think it says everything about where we, the court and the country are that people are still genuinely worried it could happen.
I have v. strong feelings on Pfizer, as most of my coworkers and some family were hung out to dry when they decided to suddenly vacate my home town. Things sorta worked out though.
But them doing this today and basically telling Trump to get fucked makes up for a lot of that. If it was planned to happen today instead of last money...*chefs kiss*
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ICYMI: Why is @Pfizer
financing #Covid19 #vaccine development on its own - instead of accepting government funding?
$PFE CEO Albert Bourla says “I wanted to liberate our scientists from any bureaucracy. When you get money from someone...that always comes with strings.”
Maybe? But I said for months Trump has no legit path to winning. So I was never really scared Tuesday. This is what I’ve been afraid of and we needed an overwhelming mandate to stop it.
I THINK we got enough? But I’m not remotely confident in that fact
We’re relying on the good graces of the most partisan court ever to save us.
we're not. Even if the Court rules that State Legislatures are the sole arbiter of how an election can be conducted and no Court can speak against them, we still win in PA.
The fear is that SCOTUS isn't going to base this on legality and precedent
Given who is now on the court and what they've written about the election so far, it's not an unfounded fear
I know the fear, but like
blue sky it in the most bullshit sense you can think of. What's the legal argument that gives Trump a win? How do you do that and remain consistent with actual votes cast on or before election day?
Again, I wouldn't even bother dressing it up in a legal argument. All that has to happen is that five justices (Alito, Thomas, Kav, ACB, Gorsuch) come out in support of Trump without even bothering to buttress it with anything - no original jurisdiction justification, no worrying about the number of votes, no anything.
Why are you worried about consistency or force of argument? It's clear that everyone who calls themselves a Repub in this day and age don't (and honestly, if you're a fan of jurisprudence, since *ever*) .
Eddy on
"and the morning stars I have seen
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Even if Trump gets the results of 1 state flipped (he won’t!), Biden is still president
Even if Trump gets the results of 2 states flipped (fucking lolzers), Biden is still President
Literally the only way Trump walks away from this with a W is if SCOTUS declares all votes for Biden are actually nega-votes and so by law he actually is further away from being president than when he started
Which, I don’t think I need to tell you all, is *Swedish chef noises*
Pretty much, yeah!
and I think it says everything about where we, the court and the country are that people are genuinely worried it could happen.
Does Trump have the military support he needs to make this happen? I’m pretty sure the military fucking hates him, especially after “losers and suckers”.
Does Trump have the backing of the courts to make his claim seem legally legitimate? Partisan hack Republican judges have universally told him to go screw.
Maybe there is a secret cadre of Trump loyalists with power to pull it off, but I don’t think so.
What is going to happen is Biden is going to be sworn in, and Trump’s criminal ass is going to be escorted off the premises.
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Maybe? But I said for months Trump has no legit path to winning. So I was never really scared Tuesday. This is what I’ve been afraid of and we needed an overwhelming mandate to stop it.
I THINK we got enough? But I’m not remotely confident in that fact
We’re relying on the good graces of the most partisan court ever to save us.
we're not. Even if the Court rules that State Legislatures are the sole arbiter of how an election can be conducted and no Court can speak against them, we still win in PA.
The fear is that SCOTUS isn't going to base this on legality and precedent
Given who is now on the court and what they've written about the election so far, it's not an unfounded fear
I know the fear, but like
blue sky it in the most bullshit sense you can think of. What's the legal argument that gives Trump a win? How do you do that and remain consistent with actual votes cast on or before election day?
Again, I wouldn't even bother dressing it up in a legal argument. All that has to happen is that five justices (Alito, Thomas, Kav, ACB, Gorsuch) come out in support of Trump without even bothering to buttress it with anything - no original jurisdiction justification, no worrying about the number of votes, no anything.
Why are you worried about consistency or force of argument? It's clear that everyone who calls themselves a Repub in this day and age don't.
i think it's as simple as there being no benefit to them doing it
your lifetime appointment over a country in ashes doesn't mean much
Allegedly a voice of reason.
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ICYMI: Why is @Pfizer
financing #Covid19 #vaccine development on its own - instead of accepting government funding?
$PFE CEO Albert Bourla says “I wanted to liberate our scientists from any bureaucracy. When you get money from someone...that always comes with strings.”
Maybe? But I said for months Trump has no legit path to winning. So I was never really scared Tuesday. This is what I’ve been afraid of and we needed an overwhelming mandate to stop it.
I THINK we got enough? But I’m not remotely confident in that fact
We’re relying on the good graces of the most partisan court ever to save us.
we're not. Even if the Court rules that State Legislatures are the sole arbiter of how an election can be conducted and no Court can speak against them, we still win in PA.
The fear is that SCOTUS isn't going to base this on legality and precedent
Given who is now on the court and what they've written about the election so far, it's not an unfounded fear
I know the fear, but like
blue sky it in the most bullshit sense you can think of. What's the legal argument that gives Trump a win? How do you do that and remain consistent with actual votes cast on or before election day?
Again, I wouldn't even bother dressing it up in a legal argument. All that has to happen is that five justices (Alito, Thomas, Kav, ACB, Gorsuch) come out in support of Trump without even bothering to buttress it with anything - no original jurisdiction justification, no worrying about the number of votes, no anything.
Why are you worried about consistency or force of argument? It's clear that everyone who calls themselves a Repub in this day and age don't.
i think it's as simple as there being no benefit to them doing it
your lifetime appointment over a country in ashes doesn't mean much
There's no benefit to them ruling maliciously and openly hypocritically, and yet Repub justices do it all the time.
The cruelty is the point, the exercise of power is the point, the tribal team win is the point
Eddy on
"and the morning stars I have seen
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
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Maybe? But I said for months Trump has no legit path to winning. So I was never really scared Tuesday. This is what I’ve been afraid of and we needed an overwhelming mandate to stop it.
I THINK we got enough? But I’m not remotely confident in that fact
We’re relying on the good graces of the most partisan court ever to save us.
we're not. Even if the Court rules that State Legislatures are the sole arbiter of how an election can be conducted and no Court can speak against them, we still win in PA.
The fear is that SCOTUS isn't going to base this on legality and precedent
Given who is now on the court and what they've written about the election so far, it's not an unfounded fear
I know the fear, but like
blue sky it in the most bullshit sense you can think of. What's the legal argument that gives Trump a win? How do you do that and remain consistent with actual votes cast on or before election day?
Again, I wouldn't even bother dressing it up in a legal argument. All that has to happen is that five justices (Alito, Thomas, Kav, ACB, Gorsuch) come out in support of Trump without even bothering to buttress it with anything - no original jurisdiction justification, no worrying about the number of votes, no anything.
Why are you worried about consistency or force of argument? It's clear that everyone who calls themselves a Repub in this day and age don't.
i think it's as simple as there being no benefit to them doing it
your lifetime appointment over a country in ashes doesn't mean much
There's no benefit to them ruling maliciously and openly hypocritically, and yet Repub justices do it all the time.
it's not the same thing
Allegedly a voice of reason.
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if SCOTUS hands this election to Trump it is the literal end of our democracy
this isn't screwing over a powerless middle class for tax cuts
the country will be completely illegitimate in the eyes of the entire world
they aren't going to do that
this isn't Florida in 2000. this is a clearly decided election being overturned against the governments of several states. it would take more than PA to pull this off
What is in it for SCOTUS to vote in favor of Trump?
Short of being afraid Trump calls for their assassination he has no power over them now.
I could see Thomas because he is bugfuck crazy and corrupt, ACB and Kavanaugh because they are also crazy and / or compromised, and maybe Alito because he is a hack if they really really had to.
Gorsuch is seemingly principled even if I strongly disagree and think most of his principles are terrible. They arent 'make Trump god-king'.
Robert's doesn't want to sign his name on the death certificate of the Republic, which is what it would absolutely be.
All they are trying to do is find a way to let go of the tiger tail and let someone else get eaten while they lay low. They got everything they want and can spend their lives quietly destroying democracy.
Maybe? But I said for months Trump has no legit path to winning. So I was never really scared Tuesday. This is what I’ve been afraid of and we needed an overwhelming mandate to stop it.
I THINK we got enough? But I’m not remotely confident in that fact
We’re relying on the good graces of the most partisan court ever to save us.
we're not. Even if the Court rules that State Legislatures are the sole arbiter of how an election can be conducted and no Court can speak against them, we still win in PA.
The fear is that SCOTUS isn't going to base this on legality and precedent
Given who is now on the court and what they've written about the election so far, it's not an unfounded fear
I know the fear, but like
blue sky it in the most bullshit sense you can think of. What's the legal argument that gives Trump a win? How do you do that and remain consistent with actual votes cast on or before election day?
Again, I wouldn't even bother dressing it up in a legal argument. All that has to happen is that five justices (Alito, Thomas, Kav, ACB, Gorsuch) come out in support of Trump without even bothering to buttress it with anything - no original jurisdiction justification, no worrying about the number of votes, no anything.
Why are you worried about consistency or force of argument? It's clear that everyone who calls themselves a Repub in this day and age don't.
i think it's as simple as there being no benefit to them doing it
your lifetime appointment over a country in ashes doesn't mean much
Agreed. Say what you will about the GOP but they're only relevant so long as there's a Country for them to play in. They're not going to burn everything down because of what the Q-heads or the most hard core Trumper's shriek about. There are still adults, and I use that term loosely, in the room.
Even if Trump gets the results of 1 state flipped (he won’t!), Biden is still president
Even if Trump gets the results of 2 states flipped (fucking lolzers), Biden is still President
Literally the only way Trump walks away from this with a W is if SCOTUS declares all votes for Biden are actually nega-votes and so by law he actually is further away from being president than when he started
Looks like he basically is taking that tack in Pennsylvania:
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mcconnell couldn't even repeal the aca with full control over the government.
this is just trump trying to save face, it will accomplish nothing. there is no voter fraud, and as such there is nothing any court could do, biden is already ahead. any times courts have changed a race it was due to an order to stop counting.
Senate makes things longer lasting, but a lot of the wishlist can get checked off for at least four years. And four years of EO for climate is pretty vital. It was 80* here in Michigan today.
Really? Cool. I looked at the top 4 or 5 candidates on the CNN results page and the total GOP tally was higher than the total Dem tally, but if there were several Dems i didn't catch and the total for Dems was higher than the total for Pubs, excellent.
my husband and I are very close to paying off his student loans, and we've been aggressively putting more money towards it since our incomes went up. if other people just have their debt magically 'forgiven' after all of our hard work I will be
fucking delighted
we are so privileged as a couple and it was such still a pain to pay them off, it's so much worse for other people that aren't in our position. burn the debt notices in a big pile, Joker style
They cannot expand their Majority in the Senate. Democrats already have a +1 pickup. The question is whether that's all it is or if we get +3.
we're not. Even if the Court rules that State Legislatures are the sole arbiter of how an election can be conducted and no Court can speak against them, we still win in PA.
The fear is that SCOTUS isn't going to base this on legality and precedent
Given who is now on the court and what they've written about the election so far, it's not an unfounded fear
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Fuck those 230,000 Americans, where's MY credit
$15 minimum wage? I'm moving to mississippi!
I know, I know, it's a good thing. But that ain't shit in many california cities.
Weren't they trying to take credit for this themselves just a few hours ago?
Pfizer dunked on the claim by Pence, so pivot.
Plus, are we really expecting Trump's personal messaging to finally become consistent with the rest of his administration's?
I know the fear, but like
blue sky it in the most bullshit sense you can think of. What's the legal argument that gives Trump a win? How do you do that and remain consistent with actual votes cast on or before election day?
it would have been dishonest to let him take credit for it as Pfizer specifically opted out of his public-private partnership because they didn't want their research funding to be at the whims of an idiot child
I know it doesn't apply to everyone for various reasons.
But my wife and I were talking about how hard and for how long into our careers we were paying off (mostly her) student loans.
All I think is how nice it will be our daughter doesn't have to make college choices about how she will pay off her loans. Or that instead of us having to put her through college we we can take the money and put it toward her house downpayment or other things that become generational wealth.
And if its means tested, we are still fine.
Think about how good it would be for the economy if millions of 20-30 year olds suddenly had anywhere from $200 to...$1500? in extra cash a month they can spend on entertainment, renovations, cars, etc instead of making loan payments.
noted toady of democrats and *checks notes* tireless campaigner against the ACA, drug price controls, and single payer.
Even if Trump gets the results of 2 states flipped (fucking lolzers), Biden is still President
Literally the only way Trump walks away from this with a W is if SCOTUS declares all votes for Biden are actually nega-votes and so by law he actually is further away from being president than when he started
Which, I don’t think I need to tell you all, is *Swedish chef noises*
from September
Wait fucking Porter Wright is supporting Trump?????
My wife used to date Porter! THE Porter!
God damnit
I never, ever thought I would say this, but...
Yay big pharma!
Okay, I will now go back to hating them to death
I really don't think we can be sure this will amount to nothing. It's an attempted coup! It's a big fucking deal. I don't know what's likely to happen, but I don't think I have a ton of confidence that American institutions won't buckle under the pressure.
Pretty much, yeah!
and I think it says everything about where we, the court and the country are that people are still genuinely worried it could happen.
But them doing this today and basically telling Trump to get fucked makes up for a lot of that. If it was planned to happen today instead of last money...*chefs kiss*
say what you will about them
they aren't stupid
Again, I wouldn't even bother dressing it up in a legal argument. All that has to happen is that five justices (Alito, Thomas, Kav, ACB, Gorsuch) come out in support of Trump without even bothering to buttress it with anything - no original jurisdiction justification, no worrying about the number of votes, no anything.
Why are you worried about consistency or force of argument? It's clear that everyone who calls themselves a Repub in this day and age don't (and honestly, if you're a fan of jurisprudence, since *ever*) .
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Does Trump have the military support he needs to make this happen? I’m pretty sure the military fucking hates him, especially after “losers and suckers”.
Does Trump have the backing of the courts to make his claim seem legally legitimate? Partisan hack Republican judges have universally told him to go screw.
Maybe there is a secret cadre of Trump loyalists with power to pull it off, but I don’t think so.
What is going to happen is Biden is going to be sworn in, and Trump’s criminal ass is going to be escorted off the premises.
i think it's as simple as there being no benefit to them doing it
your lifetime appointment over a country in ashes doesn't mean much
Who do you think runs Congress?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs0e6mJif5c
Big Pharma!
There's no benefit to them ruling maliciously and openly hypocritically, and yet Repub justices do it all the time.
The cruelty is the point, the exercise of power is the point, the tribal team win is the point
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
it's not the same thing
this isn't screwing over a powerless middle class for tax cuts
the country will be completely illegitimate in the eyes of the entire world
they aren't going to do that
this isn't Florida in 2000. this is a clearly decided election being overturned against the governments of several states. it would take more than PA to pull this off
they simply are not going to do that
What is in it for SCOTUS to vote in favor of Trump?
Short of being afraid Trump calls for their assassination he has no power over them now.
I could see Thomas because he is bugfuck crazy and corrupt, ACB and Kavanaugh because they are also crazy and / or compromised, and maybe Alito because he is a hack if they really really had to.
Gorsuch is seemingly principled even if I strongly disagree and think most of his principles are terrible. They arent 'make Trump god-king'.
Robert's doesn't want to sign his name on the death certificate of the Republic, which is what it would absolutely be.
All they are trying to do is find a way to let go of the tiger tail and let someone else get eaten while they lay low. They got everything they want and can spend their lives quietly destroying democracy.
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Agreed. Say what you will about the GOP but they're only relevant so long as there's a Country for them to play in. They're not going to burn everything down because of what the Q-heads or the most hard core Trumper's shriek about. There are still adults, and I use that term loosely, in the room.
Looks like he basically is taking that tack in Pennsylvania:
Tweeter is some lawyer, but links the full filing.