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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Bruno is interesting because usually the villain song is sung by the villain

    I'm gonna split some hairs here, but usually the villain is involved in some way with the song. It is often, but not always, them singing the main role. Bruno is here by way of flashback and metamorphosis.

    Gaston and Ratigan's songs are not primarily sung by the villain, but they do join in for a few lines. It is pretty common in Disney movies for the villain song to be a chorus description of what the villain is and what their deal is.

    Spoilers for Encanto:
    The Abuela is the closest thing that the movie gets to an actual villain, and she does get a token line in the song.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Further Encanto spoilers
    The song also sets up the fact that Bruno is still in the house. "I can hear him muttering and mumbling." Present tense. "Always left Abuela and the family fumbling/Grappling with prophecies they couldn't understand/Do you understand?" Setting up that Bruno is not malevolent, but extremely misunderstood by his family. Specifically mentions Abuela separate from the family, because she was an extremely driving force behind Bruno feeling unwanted.

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    PailryderPailryder Registered User regular
    you can literally see him on the second floor in the song :)

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    mrpakumrpaku Registered User regular
    The blink-and-you'll-miss-it look on Mirabel's face right as Isabella descends from the heavens, glowing and idolized on a bed of flowers, during "We Don't Talk About Bruno" is thirty minutes worth of sibling character development in a single "this shit again" glance

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Huh.
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    I would not have noticed that.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Oh wait, never mind

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    Ivan HungerIvan Hunger Registered User regular
    I agree that villain songs are usually the best song in any given musical.

    I actually consider Hunchback to be an exception though. I love "Bells of Notre Dame". The part where the statues of the saints scare the shit out of Frollo by giving him the stink eye is the peak of the movie. It's all downhill from there.

    I feel like referring to "Can You Feel the Love Tonight" or any other typical Disney schoolgirl crush song as a horny song is doing a disservice to the only song in Disney's library that's legitimately horny, "Let Me Be Good to You" from the Great Mouse Detective. It is a song sung by stripper mice about enticing arousal that has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the movie. "Your baby's gonna come through" is not being subtle.

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    PailryderPailryder Registered User regular
    best hero song is I can go the distance, best villain song is either gaston or poor unfortunate soul

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    [Expletive deleted][Expletive deleted] The mediocre doctor NorwayRegistered User regular
    I'm partial to Make a man out of you from Mulan.

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    DibbitDibbit Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    I agree that villain songs are usually the best song in any given musical.

    I actually consider Hunchback to be an exception though. I love "Bells of Notre Dame". The part where the statues of the saints scare the shit out of Frollo by giving him the stink eye is the peak of the movie. It's all downhill from there.

    I feel like referring to "Can You Feel the Love Tonight" or any other typical Disney schoolgirl crush song as a horny song is doing a disservice to the only song in Disney's library that's legitimately horny, "Let Me Be Good to You" from the Great Mouse Detective. It is a song sung by stripper mice about enticing arousal that has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the movie. "Your baby's gonna come through" is not being subtle.

    .... The bells of Notre Dame is the very opening of the movie isn't it? That's harsh... I know it's not the best, but still... harsh.

    Also, Best Hero song is Make a Man out of you, Heracles should've commited more instead of "I would go ALMOST anywhere..." that's loser talk. :)

    edit: I do want to add that I can admire someone who, at the end of day, in a cold and dark winter evening, starts watching The Hunchback of Notre Dame, arrives at the Title card, and says "Well, I've seen all I need to, this was excellent." There is something glorious about that.

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    [Expletive deleted][Expletive deleted] The mediocre doctor NorwayRegistered User regular
    Bells of ND is good, Hellfire is good, Court of Miracles is good

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Hunchback's biggest problem is the lack of tonal consistency, but its soundtrack absolutely bangs.

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Watching Encanto for the first time.

    Big fan of
    Luisa's song
    so far.

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    Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
    By the way Smiling Friends is out.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_c5UbBdJYo&ab_channel=Anthony

    I don't know that it quite lives up to standard of bizarre greatness that the pilot set, but it gets like 90% of the way there.
    I had fun watching it.

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    DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    it was so short though, i pretty much watched all of it in one sitting.

    The Halloween episode was fucking hilarious as was the enchanted forest. They really nailed that Rankin Bass creepy hobbit look.

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    BronzeKoopaBronzeKoopa Registered User regular
    What PC game were they playing in that Christmas episode?

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    DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    What PC game were they playing in that Christmas episode?

    much like mouse quest, it's not a real game

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    Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    Apparently Totally Spies is officially one of those cartoons that will never die.


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    Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
    That's fine, I guess.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Another generation of horny animators emerges!

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    Apparently Totally Spies is officially one of those cartoons that will never die.


    It is pretty much Fetish: The Series, so that's always evergreen.

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    AbsalonAbsalon Lands of Always WinterRegistered User regular
    Oh man The House is fantastic. I didn't know the project was helmed by a Swedish woman and that Sven Wollter plays a part but that's two other great things about it.

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    Apparently Totally Spies is officially one of those cartoons that will never die.


    It is pretty much Fetish: The Series, so that's always evergreen.

    And theres so many new fetishes now. The writers will have to be in prime condition.

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    SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    Oh they're primed, all right.

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    Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    I kind of feel like Totally Spies reputation for being pure fetish fuel is at least a little bit exaggerated. It ignores that the show also has a lot of episodes that aren't horny but are just bizarre, like the one where a guy tries to kidnap all the world's celebrities on a gigantic Bling Jet that can fly so fast that it turns back time a la the first Superman movie (and no, the time travel aspect is not resolved by the end of the episode, yet things are inexplicably back to normal anyway).

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    skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    Apparently Totally Spies is officially one of those cartoons that will never die.


    And here I thought Venture Brothers had a long time between seasons. Apparently this show started in 2001 and season 6 aired back in 2013 in France and 2015 in North America.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    I kind of feel like Totally Spies reputation for being pure fetish fuel is at least a little bit exaggerated. It ignores that the show also has a lot of episodes that aren't horny but are just bizarre, like the one where a guy tries to kidnap all the world's celebrities on a gigantic Bling Jet that can fly so fast that it turns back time a la the first Superman movie (and no, the time travel aspect is not resolved by the end of the episode, yet things are inexplicably back to normal anyway).

    That said, a good number of episodes have the watcher going "oh, that's what turns the lead animator's crank."

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    IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    When you have multiple catgirl episodes.

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    21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    When you have multiple catgirl episodes.

    i feel ripped off. i never watched totally Spies as a teen because it looked boring... (i watched Martin Mystery instead)

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    IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    When you have multiple catgirl episodes.

    i feel ripped off. i never watched totally Spies as a teen because it looked boring... (i watched Martin Mystery instead)

    Saberspark did a vid on it, NSFW topic obviously: https://youtu.be/Lwe3lG0CyKI

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    Totally Spies was so horny that even as a like nine year old I distinctly remember thinking, is this like... a sex thing?

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Someone once tried the "it's not horny, it's French" argument on me.

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    see317see317 Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Someone once tried the "it's not horny, it's French" argument on me.

    Yeah, wobpex8o53ju.jpgy

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    AbsalonAbsalon Lands of Always WinterRegistered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Someone once tried the "it's not horny, it's French" argument on me.
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    DibbitDibbit Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Someone once tried the "it's not horny, it's French" argument on me.

    It very low key irks me that people call it "Anime inspired" because Anime was.... inspired by French animation. So it's more "this is the OG Anime."

    Having said that, I kind of agree with the argument: If the women are not drawn slightly over the top horny, is it really French animation?

    Exhibit A:

    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/3/37015/806327-geriatrix3.jpg

    edit: Heck, even de 'nerdy' ones don't escape this:

    https://www.akim.nl/Images/Dynamic/full/Stripshop.Curiosity/612133/107190-sticker-guust-en-juffrouw-jannie.jpg

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    [Expletive deleted][Expletive deleted] The mediocre doctor NorwayRegistered User regular
    You should see Le Petit Spirou.
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    This is considered children's comics, incidentally.

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    DibbitDibbit Registered User regular
    You should see Le Petit Spirou.
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    This is considered children's comics, incidentally.

    It IS a children's comic.
    And a pretty funny one at that. :)

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    [Expletive deleted][Expletive deleted] The mediocre doctor NorwayRegistered User regular
    Dibbit wrote: »
    You should see Le Petit Spirou.
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    This is considered children's comics, incidentally.

    It IS a children's comic.
    And a pretty funny one at that. :)

    Yeah, I have several albums. They're great. Don't know if any more are coming out, though; Tome died in 2019.

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    Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    Finally watching Final Space. I kind of had to power through season one, but so far season two has seemed to have found a much better balance between wackiness and drama compared to the first season.

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    21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    Dibbit wrote: »
    You should see Le Petit Spirou.
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    This is considered children's comics, incidentally.

    It IS a children's comic.
    And a pretty funny one at that. :)

    Yeah, I have several albums. They're great. Don't know if any more are coming out, though; Tome died in 2019.

    oh fuck, i didn't know.

    The Tome/Janry era of Spirou (shippuden) is what i grew up on. such good comics.

    Le Petit Spirou was also very funny it's true.

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