Cheers. I have to say that after Origins I've been more and more put off by the sprawling 'contentness' of these games; if there's a more focused slice of Assassin's Creed, I'll gladly give it a try, but anything that comes with an announcement of "x dozen hours of content!!!" tends to make my eyes glaze over these days, which is why I'm wary. Which is a shame, because I used to really like the AC games, in spite of their flaws.
Yeah it's why I'm avoiding Dying Light 2 since their press releases kept talking about how long the game was.
That one I'm more interested in because of the more involved parkour; give me fun traversal mechanisms and solid world design and I'll happily play post-apocalyptic Mirror's Edge. But yeah, that press release made me roll my eyes further than should be anatomically possible.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
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There’s something super weird about that piece of art, it’s just a weirdly dull and incongruous image and framing
Having said that the idea of going back to a smaller, single city game without the rpg stuff is hugely exciting for me and I hope they keep making those alongside their infinite gaas idea because I know that would be exhausting to play if it were the only type of assassins creed game going forward
Mirage looks like it has a lot of potential. I'm already more interested than I ever was in Valhalla.
But I want a Thirty Years' War game. Nobody ever covers it, so pretty much the exact opposite as vikings. The tech level, length, and huge number of historical figures are perfect for the franchise's milieu. Like, imagine assassinating Cardinal Richlieu after hanging out with the Three Musketeers—all of whom would be Assassin's, of course.
I want an Aztec protagonist against conquistadors, mainly because I feel like a jungle setting would offer a whole new approach to traversal with like swinging and hiding in the canopy
I want an Aztec protagonist against conquistadors, mainly because I feel like a jungle setting would offer a whole new approach to traversal with like swinging and hiding in the canopy
I still also want to see them do a Remake+ where they take AC1, keep the story the same, but expand the size of the gameworld, and add a bunch more side content and activities. So it would be a remake with more content than exists in the original. At the very least, if they don't do that, they need to at least do a port and maybe a remaster to bring AC1 to modern gen. AC1 I'm pretty sure is the only game in the series that is trapped on PS3/360 era hardware.
I still also want to see them do a Remake+ where they take AC1, keep the story the same, but expand the size of the gameworld, and add a bunch more side content and activities. So it would be a remake with more content than exists in the original. At the very least, if they don't do that, they need to at least do a port and maybe a remaster to bring AC1 to modern gen. AC1 I'm pretty sure is the only game in the series that is trapped on PS3/360 era hardware.
Honestly, that's the last I would want. I've long found the AC side content to be pretty shallow - which I think is okay, as long the game doesn't overstay its welcome, but with an 80+ hour game? I feel burnt out just by thinking about it.
Other than that, though, there have been a bunch of rumours that AC1 will be done as a season pass DLC for Mirage
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"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
I still also want to see them do a Remake+ where they take AC1, keep the story the same, but expand the size of the gameworld, and add a bunch more side content and activities. So it would be a remake with more content than exists in the original. At the very least, if they don't do that, they need to at least do a port and maybe a remaster to bring AC1 to modern gen. AC1 I'm pretty sure is the only game in the series that is trapped on PS3/360 era hardware.
No, it isn't trapped, you can play it BC on the current Xbox (probably there's a version on Ps5, but I don't keep track of that as well).
The only way it would be available on PS5 would be as a PS Now streaming option. And I don't consider that a real option. (I also have not checked to see if AC1 is in the PS Now game library or not).
A remaster or remake of the original game is rumoured to be part of this games season pass
Nice if true. And that's definitely a realistic possibility. The season pass for FarCry 6 included a remaster of FC3. So there's already a precedent set by Ubisoft for doing something like that.
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Geez I thought they were taking a couple years off to make the games good again. Turns out they were taking the time off to overly saturate the series even worse than it was.
Geez I thought they were taking a couple years off to make the games good again. Turns out they were taking the time off to overly saturate the series even worse than it was.
These games are scheduled for release over the next ~4 years, which is a somewhat higher concentration than we've had for a bit but not the highest it's ever been.
Also if they release different types of games, ie not every one is a massive rpg like the last 3, it will be enough variety for me
I hope they’ve got an interesting take on the Japanese setting though, because yeah ghost of Tsushima ate their lunch there. Maybe something more modern, like a The Last Samurai kind of setting where you’re fighting against modern army troops,or hyper focussed on some unique aspect.
So we know Mirage is a standalone game that is supposedly going back to the series' roots as more of a stealth/parkour game. And we know Infinity is their attempt to turn AC into a live service and grift their playerbase for as much money as they can through micros, battlepasses, expansion passes, a la carte store items, and any other passes they can think of. We don't know any solid fact details about Infinity yet, but I think we can make some reasonable assumptions, based on the live service business model used by other live services.
When Schreier says "two main games in Infinity" I assume he means the first two campaigns. Infinity itself is the game. So I think his wording was just a bit awkward. We know through rumors and leaks that they want to have multiple settings in Infinity and continually add more campaigns over time. I believe there's supposed to be some sort of hub area where you can go to different time periods and so forth to do your assassining. So when Schreier says Japan and Holy Roman Empire, my read of that is those will be the first two areas of their ever-expanding live service gameworld.
Which is fine. I don't inherently hate live services. What I hate is the greed that always gets attached to them as a byproduct. But just the concept of an ever-growing game that is regularly supported through patches, seasonal content, and regular injections of new missions and activities is a fine idea.
Long story short, I don't think they're about to saturate us with a ton of new content. Really, we've only seen two games in these leaks so far. Mirage and Infinity.
All of the games they're talking about sound fantastic, particularly the Japan and Witchy ones. I'm hoping one of these games is more akin to AC of old, especially if it is just focusing on an incredibly dense city. The huge open worlds of the Layla Trilogy (I'm assuming this story is finished as I've not actually finished any of these games despite putting hundreds of hours into them) are fun to fart around in, but something more lived in (like a Ye Olde Englishy city) would be just my jam.
I snagged the Ragnarok expansion for ACV because I haven't picked it up yet, and 50% off is a pretty reasonable price for what I understand to be a substantially large bit of DLC.
Good chance for folks to pick up Origins or Odyssey if they haven't played those yet.
If you have a ps5 odyssey and origins are also 60fps and look fantastic.
I haven’t seen ragnarok on sale before for that level of discount, I will probably pick it up and maybe odyssey season pass. Though likely I will play each for like an hour and then keep playing elden ring and warhammer 3.
Almost everything about the AC portion of the event was very exciting. The only thing I didn’t like was the announcement of the mobile game.
ACing about in ancient China, and parkouring over the Great Wall sounds freaking awesome and it’s such a waste to put that on mobile. Mobile automatically means it will be an inferior, watered down game. Plus MTX galore and greed abounding. Sigh. Fuck mobile games.
Almost everything about the AC portion of the event was very exciting. The only thing I didn’t like was the announcement of the mobile game.
ACing about in ancient China, and parkouring over the Great Wall sounds freaking awesome and it’s such a waste to put that on mobile. Mobile automatically means it will be an inferior, watered down game. Plus MTX galore and greed abounding. Sigh. Fuck mobile games.
I was extremely excited for Project Jade until it said "mobile." Talk about a missed opportunity.
Yeah I always thought a Assassins creed set around the fall of the Mongols and rise of the Ming dynasty would be good. They even have the built in conspiracy theories and secret societies to work with, with the Red Turbans, White Lotus Society, etc.
Assassins creed for me is in a "you have to prove to me this is worth playing" because while Origins was a fantastic reboot, the two follow ups have been so under whelming and bloated to shit and back.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Wow. I mean more power to you Preacher but Odyssey was sooo good. Was easily my game of the year that year. Valhalla I agree was a let down. Mainly due to the combat losing it's fluidity and the story of the game never actually ending.
I guess I just approached it a different way. Egypt and ancient Greece are really interesting to me as subjects so I had a blast just seeing the sights and murdering people. I think the cult was a bit samey in terms of hunting them down but I liked the combat, I found skills that worked and weapon styles that suited me and I went to town. It also helped me that the character is a demigod of sorts so being able to jump off high cliffs and take no damage (eventually) really helped. I didn't really do the DLC. I can't say it grabbed me.
Anyway, yes Valhalla was a let down.
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Figures I would be too much of a coward to pull the trigger on the recent AC Valhalla sales (played it but only through sub) despite knowing I would be hyped from all this. Malaka!
Pretty happy about the announcement of Red and Hexe. Its about damn time we got Japan.
Good to hear its from the Odd team, probably the best game since Black Flag.
See I hated Odyssey. It was full of nothing, just a ton of ubisoft dots that became so boring and the DLC was like worse with each iteration.
Origins nailed a focused story with a clear objective. Odyssey felt like "Sail around do some boring shit and get a bunch of samey loot."
Valhalla turned those "dots" into actual dots and was so much better for it. Turning events from specific tasks into general event types short circuits the anxiety that I get from looking at most AC maps.
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Odyssey took the fantastic groundwork laid by Origins and bloated the shit out of it.
Their response wasn't to improve on what Origins did - IMO it went backwards in some ways. Mercenaries replaced Phylakes, but weren't nearly as scary. Tombs all felt the same. They got rid of the travelling caravans of materials for War Camps, which was just another type of fort to take down with less people. Forts themselves were fewer in Origins, but felt better to take down.
Oydsseys approach was to streamline the amount of different content there was, but then just keep adding more and more and more of it.
I still enjoyed it, but Origins was better. If only they let you play as Aya.
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Origins was pretty bad, especially the combat. I would honestly never replay it.
Have a lot of good memories of Odd though, felt like the characters had actual personality and charm, aswell as the story and setting being more interesting. Cassandra had a lot of skills that were actually pretty cool and fun to use.
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Yeah it's why I'm avoiding Dying Light 2 since their press releases kept talking about how long the game was.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
Having said that the idea of going back to a smaller, single city game without the rpg stuff is hugely exciting for me and I hope they keep making those alongside their infinite gaas idea because I know that would be exhausting to play if it were the only type of assassins creed game going forward
But I want a Thirty Years' War game. Nobody ever covers it, so pretty much the exact opposite as vikings. The tech level, length, and huge number of historical figures are perfect for the franchise's milieu. Like, imagine assassinating Cardinal Richlieu after hanging out with the Three Musketeers—all of whom would be Assassin's, of course.
A Central/South American game would be very cool
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I still also want to see them do a Remake+ where they take AC1, keep the story the same, but expand the size of the gameworld, and add a bunch more side content and activities. So it would be a remake with more content than exists in the original. At the very least, if they don't do that, they need to at least do a port and maybe a remaster to bring AC1 to modern gen. AC1 I'm pretty sure is the only game in the series that is trapped on PS3/360 era hardware.
Other than that, though, there have been a bunch of rumours that AC1 will be done as a season pass DLC for Mirage
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
No, it isn't trapped, you can play it BC on the current Xbox (probably there's a version on Ps5, but I don't keep track of that as well).
Nice if true. And that's definitely a realistic possibility. The season pass for FarCry 6 included a remaster of FC3. So there's already a precedent set by Ubisoft for doing something like that.
They just dragged their feet for so long on the setting someone beat them to it.
Geez I thought they were taking a couple years off to make the games good again. Turns out they were taking the time off to overly saturate the series even worse than it was.
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These games are scheduled for release over the next ~4 years, which is a somewhat higher concentration than we've had for a bit but not the highest it's ever been.
I hope they’ve got an interesting take on the Japanese setting though, because yeah ghost of Tsushima ate their lunch there. Maybe something more modern, like a The Last Samurai kind of setting where you’re fighting against modern army troops,or hyper focussed on some unique aspect.
So we know Mirage is a standalone game that is supposedly going back to the series' roots as more of a stealth/parkour game. And we know Infinity is their attempt to turn AC into a live service and grift their playerbase for as much money as they can through micros, battlepasses, expansion passes, a la carte store items, and any other passes they can think of. We don't know any solid fact details about Infinity yet, but I think we can make some reasonable assumptions, based on the live service business model used by other live services.
When Schreier says "two main games in Infinity" I assume he means the first two campaigns. Infinity itself is the game. So I think his wording was just a bit awkward. We know through rumors and leaks that they want to have multiple settings in Infinity and continually add more campaigns over time. I believe there's supposed to be some sort of hub area where you can go to different time periods and so forth to do your assassining. So when Schreier says Japan and Holy Roman Empire, my read of that is those will be the first two areas of their ever-expanding live service gameworld.
Which is fine. I don't inherently hate live services. What I hate is the greed that always gets attached to them as a byproduct. But just the concept of an ever-growing game that is regularly supported through patches, seasonal content, and regular injections of new missions and activities is a fine idea.
Long story short, I don't think they're about to saturate us with a ton of new content. Really, we've only seen two games in these leaks so far. Mirage and Infinity.
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I snagged the Ragnarok expansion for ACV because I haven't picked it up yet, and 50% off is a pretty reasonable price for what I understand to be a substantially large bit of DLC.
Good chance for folks to pick up Origins or Odyssey if they haven't played those yet.
I haven’t seen ragnarok on sale before for that level of discount, I will probably pick it up and maybe odyssey season pass. Though likely I will play each for like an hour and then keep playing elden ring and warhammer 3.
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ACing about in ancient China, and parkouring over the Great Wall sounds freaking awesome and it’s such a waste to put that on mobile. Mobile automatically means it will be an inferior, watered down game. Plus MTX galore and greed abounding. Sigh. Fuck mobile games.
I was extremely excited for Project Jade until it said "mobile." Talk about a missed opportunity.
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Origins nailed a focused story with a clear objective. Odyssey felt like "Sail around do some boring shit and get a bunch of samey loot."
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Anyway, yes Valhalla was a let down.
Pretty happy about the announcement of Red and Hexe. Its about damn time we got Japan.
Good to hear its from the Odd team, probably the best game since Black Flag.
Valhalla turned those "dots" into actual dots and was so much better for it. Turning events from specific tasks into general event types short circuits the anxiety that I get from looking at most AC maps.
Their response wasn't to improve on what Origins did - IMO it went backwards in some ways. Mercenaries replaced Phylakes, but weren't nearly as scary. Tombs all felt the same. They got rid of the travelling caravans of materials for War Camps, which was just another type of fort to take down with less people. Forts themselves were fewer in Origins, but felt better to take down.
Oydsseys approach was to streamline the amount of different content there was, but then just keep adding more and more and more of it.
I still enjoyed it, but Origins was better. If only they let you play as Aya.
Have a lot of good memories of Odd though, felt like the characters had actual personality and charm, aswell as the story and setting being more interesting. Cassandra had a lot of skills that were actually pretty cool and fun to use.