Mix. The title picture is CG, and there's CG illustrations of their telemetry data, but also video feeds.
There was a "pale blue dot" pic from the solar panel wing camera, shortly after signal re-acquisition (coming back around the far side), that damn near brought me to tears.
Unmanned test flight, sure, but we're actually doing this again.
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And if you scrub forward to around ~2h:40m in that video, I found a brief, neat shot from inside the cabin with the dummy astronaut, albeit not very well lit, of course.
Very cool to be able to fast forward through that video as the moon grows nearer and gradually takes up more of the screen. As much as I know, rationally, SLS is a mega-pork-barrel project, started by a couple of senators (one of whom IIRC, is no longer even alive), it's awe-inspiring imagery like that, that gives me hope for humanity's future. TBH after all the delays I half expected SLS to explode on the pad or soon after launch. I'm very happy to be proven wrong.
And if you scrub forward to around ~2h:40m in that video, I found a brief, neat shot from inside the cabin with the dummy astronaut, albeit not very well lit, of course.
Very cool to be able to fast forward through that video as the moon grows nearer and gradually takes up more of the screen. As much as I know, rationally, SLS is a mega-pork-barrel project, started by a couple of senators (one of whom IIRC, is no longer even alive), it's awe-inspiring imagery like that, that gives me hope for humanity's future. TBH after all the delays I half expected SLS to explode on the pad or soon after launch. I'm very happy to be proven wrong.
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Man it's pretty neat up here, despite the fact that the interior of this bus smells terrible on account of the whole liverwurst situation.
Anyways how are all you folk doing back there on the ground?
Paralympic sprinter John McFall was named one of this years ESA astronaut recruits, the world's first disabled astronaut.
He will be heading up feasibility studies on earth. Most astronauts (especially from the ESA, who don't have their own launcher or a dedicated launch contract and get seats from NASA) never make it to space so it's likely he'll be remembered more for a future he helps enable than a future he takes part in, bit this is still a big deal.
John Johnson gave a detailed account of his experience with the alleged age discrimination in an essay published on the whistleblower site Lioness. He explains that he was hired at the age of 58 to work at SpaceX as a principal optics engineer. He stayed on from 2018 until 2022, when he chose to resign after nearly two years of watching his work duties diminish following his return after surgery for a back injury in 2020.
Johnson planned for the surgery well in advance, and even delayed having the procedure done in order to see the company through a “major milestone.” When he returned after missing a few days — again, after a back surgery — Johnson says the tasks he’d handed off to junior employees during his absence were not restored. Johnson says he voiced his concerns to his manager but despite his suspicious, he didn’t bring up age discrimination until an engineer casually mentioned his possible retirement or death:
A few weeks later, the aforementioned manufacturing engineer said he’d now been assigned to “shadow me” to learn all aspects of optical metrology over the following two weeks. When I asked why, he answered that his Starlink manager had said I “might retire or die.” I was 61, with six more years to the standard retirement age, even if I was considering retiring—which I was not.
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In one thread or another, the Vulcan came up in relation to the Falcon 9/Heavy, and I think Hevach said the Vulcan was more capable. But everything I can find online suggests they should have similar lift capabilities? What (besides redundancy) will make Vulcan that much better than Falcon 9, considering it will probably cost a lot more to launch on?
"I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."
In one thread or another, the Vulcan came up in relation to the Falcon 9/Heavy, and I think Hevach said the Vulcan was more capable. But everything I can find online suggests they should have similar lift capabilities? What (besides redundancy) will make Vulcan that much better than Falcon 9, considering it will probably cost a lot more to launch on?
It doesn't have a screaming goose of a manchild attached to it?
From what I can gather Falcon Heavy outperforms Vulcan for LEO and GTO launches. But FH still has a weirdly small faring and there could be edge cases where Vulcans much more efficient Centaur stage hydrolox engine gives it better performance for extremely high energy interplanetary missions where its payload has limited delta V of its own?
Or they could just be comparing non-expendable mission profiles vs Vulcans expendable profiles.
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Ok. I knew the fairing on the Falcon was less than ideal, I just wasn't sure how much of a difference it would make.
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Two big things Vulcan has going for it:
1) different launch platform from Falcon that uses completely different engines. Military/National Security like to have redundancy in launch providers, gives them options on the event either is grounded.
The whole issue with the Vulcan Centaur is its BE-4 engines which are attached to litigious asshole Jeff Bezos.
Blue Origin has a habit of under delivering and then using lawyers to challenge that perception. Engineering is not a prime focus and staff turnover is high. So, ideal as a backup…
Also Vulcan Centaur uses solid boosters and is not recoverable?
But it’s a military ship and so Bezos can wrangle pork barrel in other fields (databases) to make up for all the shortcomings. And he has lawyers!
From what I can gather Falcon Heavy outperforms Vulcan for LEO and GTO launches. But FH still has a weirdly small faring and there could be edge cases where Vulcans much more efficient Centaur stage hydrolox engine gives it better performance for extremely high energy interplanetary missions where its payload has limited delta V of its own?
Or they could just be comparing non-expendable mission profiles vs Vulcans expendable profiles.
Comparing Vulcan to Falcon Heavy, it should be noted that Vulcan is capable of a common core heavy configuration, as well. However its original enabling bill was derived from Constellation's, and inherits some vestigial language that makes it unclear if the government can actually buy that setup. This configuration exceeds Falcon Heavy in most categories.
The base configuration still has some advantages, though. The Centaur is a *much* better upper stage than Falcon's, to the point that when Europa Clipper was taken off SLS, Atlas V could get it to Jupiter faster than even Falcon Heavy, but there were no Atlas Vs left to buy and the bill didn't allow a future rocket like Vulcan to be selected.
I lean towards janky. That's not exactly a negative point, though. India's whole lineup looks janky as hell but they're pretty reliable rockets. And look at how the Atlas V power slides off the pad because of its weird asymmetric SRB arrangements, which is janky itself and necessary due to the huge janky greebles sticking out the sides. And that's one of the most reliable rockets in the world. Visual jank isn't bad in rockets.
I lean towards janky. That's not exactly a negative point, though. India's whole lineup looks janky as hell but they're pretty reliable rockets. And look at how the Atlas V power slides off the pad because of its weird asymmetric SRB arrangements, which is janky itself and necessary due to the huge janky greebles sticking out the sides. And that's one of the most reliable rockets in the world.
The Delta IV set itself on fire!
No one is going to top the powersliding Rocket Labs thing for a while though. Although maybe that one should be disqualified for wasting too much propellent while accidentally showing off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2jU5W4ehPE
Delta IV is definitely a poster child or rocket jank. Such a beautiful rocket with clean lines and smooth surfaces, no pipes or bits or bobs sticking out anywhere.
Then it turns on and farts a giant ball of fire all over itself, scorching the insulation and blowing off the fire shield that makes the engine nozzle look so clean.
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The Starcraft themed 3d printing rocket company Relativity is getting pretty close to a maiden launch: https://youtu.be/Apz6zBoYkEU
I can't decide if the...texture of the outside is janky or futuristic.
I could take get thru the video. "Hey, did you know it's 3d printed? You know the rocket is 3d printed, right? These engines are also 3d printed. It's the largest 3d printed object."
The Starcraft themed 3d printing rocket company Relativity is getting pretty close to a maiden launch: https://youtu.be/Apz6zBoYkEU
I can't decide if the...texture of the outside is janky or futuristic.
I could take get thru the video. "Hey, did you know it's 3d printed? You know the rocket is 3d printed, right? These engines are also 3d printed. It's the largest 3d printed object."
The emphasis on that these days is just kind of weird. At this point you might as well be saying "this object was assembled" and it'd be about as exceptional.
I take it as the opposite, honestly. There's at least three active smallsat launchers in the US boasting 3d printed launch engines, and none of them have a confidence inspiring track record.
It's a revolutionary technology for prototyping but still leaves room to be desired as a manufacturing process.
The Starcraft themed 3d printing rocket company Relativity is getting pretty close to a maiden launch: https://youtu.be/Apz6zBoYkEU
I can't decide if the...texture of the outside is janky or futuristic.
I could take get thru the video. "Hey, did you know it's 3d printed? You know the rocket is 3d printed, right? These engines are also 3d printed. It's the largest 3d printed object."
Their voice/speech pattern was way too uncanny valley for me, wasnt sure if I was listening to a person or a text-to-speech.
Its kinda cool they're 3D printing (almost) the whole thing though, but I know nothing about manufacturing or 3D printing so I'm just choosing to believe they're slow replicator-ing it.
Now I'm imagining just starting with the bottom of the engine bell and printing the entire thing up to the tip of the nose cone, one line at a time.
That would be amazing. Especially if you could toughen the printer up enough that it could be at the launchpad. Fire one off, immediately start working on the next one while the payload rolls out to be fitted.
Of course the problem with that is it takes them months to print one right now, if I remember correctly, so some speed improvements are indicated too.
Yeah, except his job isn’t actually space YouTubing – that’s his second hobby after getting his private pilots license. I don’t think he would actually take a week or twelve off his day job and his family to do the prep and also go even if he really wanted to.
Plus he hasn’t spent several years hanging around Starbase making puppy eyes at Elon, so it’s a low probability anyway.
Yeah, except his job isn’t actually space YouTubing – that’s his second hobby after getting his private pilots license. I don’t think he would actually take a week or twelve off his day job and his family to do the prep and also go even if he really wanted to.
Plus he hasn’t spent several years hanging around Starbase making puppy eyes at Elon, so it’s a low probability anyway.
I mean to your first point I think he absolutely would take a week or twelve off of his day job to go orbit the moon.
Because it would mean he got to orbit the god damned moon.
But yes I also agree it wouldn't happen because Musk is Musk.
They should send a flat earther and film their reaction
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Going to the moon is one of those things that would have me spend the rest of my days double-checking to make sure no family is around before answering 'What was the best day of your life?'
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Going to the moon is one of those things that would have me spend the rest of my days double-checking to make sure no family is around before answering 'What was the best day of your life?'
“Going around the moon” is one of those things your family should most definitely understand you answering with
I would totally be Travis Mayweather, eager to tell everyone I've been in space. Did you know I was in space? I was in space. Let me tell you about the time I went to space.
NOBODY will ever want to talk to me again. Oh your kid got all As? Cool, that reminds me of the TIME I WENT TO SPACE."
Going to the moon is one of those things that would have me spend the rest of my days double-checking to make sure no family is around before answering 'What was the best day of your life?'
“Going around the moon” is one of those things your family should most definitely understand you answering with
If anything, their kids will have "Yeah? Well my dad went to THE MOON" in their pocket for any one-upping contests.
I also suspects Manley knows enough about how non-trivial rocket design is that he'd be hesitant to hop onto what's basically a test flight, especially given he's also going to be a teensy bit more open-eyed about the shortcuts Musk's companies take than the more focused SpaceX fans.
Their voice/speech pattern was way too uncanny valley for me, wasnt sure if I was listening to a person or a text-to-speech.
Its kinda cool they're 3D printing (almost) the whole thing though, but I know nothing about manufacturing or 3D printing so I'm just choosing to believe they're slow replicator-ing it.
It's definitely TTS. The channel has the usual setup for that sort of thing - a handful of videos, where the descriptions are three paragraphs (sometimes about the same thing, often not), and where the video itself is just reciting the descriptions. There's a whole industry's worth of those channels these days and they've gotten weirdly standardized.
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Going to the moon is one of those things that would have me spend the rest of my days double-checking to make sure no family is around before answering 'What was the best day of your life?'
“Going around the moon” is one of those things your family should most definitely understand you answering with
If anything, their kids will have "Yeah? Well my dad went to THE MOON" in their pocket for any one-upping contests.
Oh, great. I hope he doesn’t start telling me about crypto.
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Mix. The title picture is CG, and there's CG illustrations of their telemetry data, but also video feeds.
There was a "pale blue dot" pic from the solar panel wing camera, shortly after signal re-acquisition (coming back around the far side), that damn near brought me to tears.
Unmanned test flight, sure, but we're actually doing this again.
Very cool to be able to fast forward through that video as the moon grows nearer and gradually takes up more of the screen.
Pretty sure that violates the Grand Edict against Trace.
Anyways how are all you folk doing back there on the ground?
Oh hold on, what's that???
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Hello human-people. yes, it is. YOU. Traece.
Excise I, you would like moon Travel yes?
Home back month. Yeah! *slurrrrp*
I hope they bought flood insurance
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Paralympic sprinter John McFall was named one of this years ESA astronaut recruits, the world's first disabled astronaut.
He will be heading up feasibility studies on earth. Most astronauts (especially from the ESA, who don't have their own launcher or a dedicated launch contract and get seats from NASA) never make it to space so it's likely he'll be remembered more for a future he helps enable than a future he takes part in, bit this is still a big deal.
Nobody?
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It doesn't have a screaming goose of a manchild attached to it?
Or they could just be comparing non-expendable mission profiles vs Vulcans expendable profiles.
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1) different launch platform from Falcon that uses completely different engines. Military/National Security like to have redundancy in launch providers, gives them options on the event either is grounded.
2) Vulcan has vertical payload integration.
Blue Origin has a habit of under delivering and then using lawyers to challenge that perception. Engineering is not a prime focus and staff turnover is high. So, ideal as a backup…
Also Vulcan Centaur uses solid boosters and is not recoverable?
But it’s a military ship and so Bezos can wrangle pork barrel in other fields (databases) to make up for all the shortcomings. And he has lawyers!
Comparing Vulcan to Falcon Heavy, it should be noted that Vulcan is capable of a common core heavy configuration, as well. However its original enabling bill was derived from Constellation's, and inherits some vestigial language that makes it unclear if the government can actually buy that setup. This configuration exceeds Falcon Heavy in most categories.
The base configuration still has some advantages, though. The Centaur is a *much* better upper stage than Falcon's, to the point that when Europa Clipper was taken off SLS, Atlas V could get it to Jupiter faster than even Falcon Heavy, but there were no Atlas Vs left to buy and the bill didn't allow a future rocket like Vulcan to be selected.
I can't decide if the...texture of the outside is janky or futuristic.
The Delta IV set itself on fire!
No one is going to top the powersliding Rocket Labs thing for a while though. Although maybe that one should be disqualified for wasting too much propellent while accidentally showing off
Then it turns on and farts a giant ball of fire all over itself, scorching the insulation and blowing off the fire shield that makes the engine nozzle look so clean.
I could take get thru the video. "Hey, did you know it's 3d printed? You know the rocket is 3d printed, right? These engines are also 3d printed. It's the largest 3d printed object."
But does it NFT?!
It's a revolutionary technology for prototyping but still leaves room to be desired as a manufacturing process.
Their voice/speech pattern was way too uncanny valley for me, wasnt sure if I was listening to a person or a text-to-speech.
Its kinda cool they're 3D printing (almost) the whole thing though, but I know nothing about manufacturing or 3D printing so I'm just choosing to believe they're slow replicator-ing it.
That would be amazing. Especially if you could toughen the printer up enough that it could be at the launchpad. Fire one off, immediately start working on the next one while the payload rolls out to be fitted.
Of course the problem with that is it takes them months to print one right now, if I remember correctly, so some speed improvements are indicated too.
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Tim Dowd of Everyday Astronaut was selected as one of the Starship guest crew people who is gonna go around the moon.
I can't say I'm surprised, and of course I hope it's safe as hell for him.. but... just.. wow.
Plus he hasn’t spent several years hanging around Starbase making puppy eyes at Elon, so it’s a low probability anyway.
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I mean to your first point I think he absolutely would take a week or twelve off of his day job to go orbit the moon.
Because it would mean he got to orbit the god damned moon.
But yes I also agree it wouldn't happen because Musk is Musk.
“Going around the moon” is one of those things your family should most definitely understand you answering with
NOBODY will ever want to talk to me again. Oh your kid got all As? Cool, that reminds me of the TIME I WENT TO SPACE."
If anything, their kids will have "Yeah? Well my dad went to THE MOON" in their pocket for any one-upping contests.
It's definitely TTS. The channel has the usual setup for that sort of thing - a handful of videos, where the descriptions are three paragraphs (sometimes about the same thing, often not), and where the video itself is just reciting the descriptions. There's a whole industry's worth of those channels these days and they've gotten weirdly standardized.
Oh, great. I hope he doesn’t start telling me about crypto.