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So... A new Genesis RPG is getting made..

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    Rigor MortisRigor Mortis Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Furu wrote: »
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    There's nothing here that couldn't be done better on a recent version of RPG Maker.

    Okay, but they didn't choose RPG Maker. They chose the SEGA Genesis, and I applaud them for it.

    Applaud them for making a subpar looking game for a dead console? I wasn't aware there was a reward for "wasted effort".
    It's not for you.

    I'm joining the OP in buyage though.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Furu wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    There's nothing here that couldn't be done better on a recent version of RPG Maker.

    Okay, but they didn't choose RPG Maker. They chose the SEGA Genesis, and I applaud them for it.

    Applaud them for making a subpar looking game for a dead console? I wasn't aware there was a reward for "wasted effort".
    What's the saying? It's not for you.

    Good morning! How much does that weigh?

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    ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Furu wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    There's nothing here that couldn't be done better on a recent version of RPG Maker.

    Okay, but they didn't choose RPG Maker. They chose the SEGA Genesis, and I applaud them for it.

    Applaud them for making a subpar looking game for a dead console? I wasn't aware there was a reward for "wasted effort".

    You know, people still make games for the Commodore 64 and the Dreamcast, right? Just because the industry at large decided to leave them behind doesn't mean they're "dead." The Genesis is one of my favorite systems, and I'm glad to see someone take up the challenge of making a game for it 10+ years after it got left behind. It doesn't look bad at all to me, either. Looks a lot like every other RPG that came out during that time.

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    Shooter McgavinShooter Mcgavin Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    My guess would be that it looks bad because it's not Super Nintendo.

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    ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Furu wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    There's nothing here that couldn't be done better on a recent version of RPG Maker.

    Okay, but they didn't choose RPG Maker. They chose the SEGA Genesis, and I applaud them for it.

    Applaud them for making a subpar looking game for a dead console? I wasn't aware there was a reward for "wasted effort".

    You know, people still make games for the Commodore 64 and the Dreamcast, right? Just because the industry at large decided to leave them behind doesn't mean they're "dead." The Genesis is one of my favorite systems, and I'm glad to see someone take up the challenge of making a game for it 10+ years after it got left behind. It doesn't look bad at all to me, either. Looks a lot like every other RPG that came out during that time.

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    augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    agoaj wrote: »
    Why would you do Genesis when you can do SNES?

    Blast processing.

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    Atlus ParkerAtlus Parker Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    After getting burned on Beggar Prince I'm not interested in any more Genesis Revival projects.

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    SaddlerSaddler Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    My guess would be this forum is pissing all over it because it's not Super Nintendo.

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    AJRAJR Some guy who wrestles NorwichRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Hahahaha, oh man. That character art is terrible.

    Good for them I guess, I'm sure at least a few people will be interested. I'm going to stay far away though.

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I have seen better

    For example, Last Scenario

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    randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Saddler wrote: »
    My guess would be this forum is pissing all over it because it looks and sounds like ass.

    I don't really care if they slaved their asses off to program something for the Genesis. A shitty looking game is a shitty looking game no matter how much effort was put into it.

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    -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Hahaha, oh man that looks like utter ass. The character art looks like something from a shitty rpg on an early windows 95 "100 games on a single disc" compilation.

    Seems like the only redeeming factor is a bizarre choice of platform. If you're going to all this trouble at least do a decent job, like project exile.

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    ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    ITT people make assumptions about a game they've never played before

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    KrunkMcGrunkKrunkMcGrunk Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    ITT people make assumptions about a game they've never played before

    Well, that's pretty assumptive of you.

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    ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    That's how I roll, baby

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    ViscountalphaViscountalpha The pen is mightier than the sword http://youtu.be/G_sBOsh-vyIRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I will have to see a demo to make a judgement. It looks alright for a genesis game. I do think the SNES was superior hardware but they might as well made a pc game out of it if they are going to go through all that hassle.

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    TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Renegen wrote: »
    It also reminds me of Secret of Evermore (bad)

    You fail at life.

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    FunkyWaltDoggFunkyWaltDogg Columbia, SCRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    ITT people make assumptions about a game they've never played before

    How is it making an assumption to state that an ugly screenshot looks bad?

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    ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    ITT people make assumptions about a game they've never played before

    How is it making an assumption to state that an ugly screenshot looks bad?

    It's an assumption to call it a terrible game when one hasn't played the game before

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    randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I will have to see a demo to make a judgement. It looks alright for a genesis game. I do think the SNES was superior hardware but they might as well made a pc game out of it if they are going to go through all that hassle.

    Clearly if they did that no one would care since there are infinitely better looking rpgs on the pc for people to play. Especially for free.

    This way they can go OMG NEW GAME FOR THE GENESIS!! and try to get money.

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    EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2008
    Saddler wrote: »
    My guess would be this forum is pissing all over it because it's not Super Nintendo.

    Bingo.

    It doesn't look "bad", it just looks like a typical 16-bit JRPG with less than stellar art design. And for the RPG comparison between the SNES and Genesis, the SNES pretty much had shit's worth of RPGs that didn't say "Squaresoft" somewhere on the label. The fact that people are still releasing games for the Genesis is a testament to the quality of the system.

    You Nintendo elitist pricks are attacking it just because it's a Genesis game, as opposed to attacking it for just being a shitty looking game in general.

    I applaud the creators for creating a game that will run on actual Genesis hardware. The SNES was a decent system, but no one gives a shit about it enough to start coding games for it now.

    That said, Beggar Prince had a fairly steep ~$45 price tag, so I wonder what people are going to have to pay to get a cartridge. And the website is a crime against the internet as a whole.

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    AJRAJR Some guy who wrestles NorwichRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Einhander wrote: »
    And for the RPG comparison between the SNES and Genesis, the SNES pretty much had shit's worth of RPGs that didn't say "Squaresoft" somewhere on the label.

    Earthbound
    Soul Blazer
    Breath of Fire 1&2
    Lufia 1&2
    Y’s 3
    Ogre Battle
    Illusion of Gaia
    and Terranigma
    (along with Tales of Phantasia and Star Ocean if you want to include Japanese imports)

    Say hi.

    I love the Genesis and everything, but to say that the SNES had little RPG wise outside of Square titles is insane.

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    EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2008
    Ten games in a genre is pretty much the definition of little.

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    LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Einhander wrote: »
    Ten games in a genre is pretty much the definition of little.

    That list is a best of, not a total.

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    AJR wrote: »
    Einhander wrote: »
    And for the RPG comparison between the SNES and Genesis, the SNES pretty much had shit's worth of RPGs that didn't say "Squaresoft" somewhere on the label.

    Earthbound
    Soul Blazer
    Breath of Fire 1&2
    Lufia 1&2
    Y’s 3
    Ogre Battle
    Illusion of Gaia
    and Terranigma
    (along with Tales of Phantasia and Star Ocean if you want to include Japanese imports)

    Say hi.

    I love the Genesis and everything, but to say that the SNES had little RPG wise outside of Square titles is insane.
    To be fair, Breath of Fire 1 did have Squaresoft on the front, in the US.

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    AJRAJR Some guy who wrestles NorwichRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Yeah that’s the cream of the crop rather than a complete list. But honestly, that’s more RPGs than what Square released in the U.S so... eh.

    I honestly didn’t know Square had a hand in bringing BoF1 to the U.S.

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    LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    What's the deal with excluding squaresoft anyway?

    I mean, they put out a lot of gold in that era.

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    TehSpectreTehSpectre Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    LewieP wrote: »
    What's the deal with excluding squaresoft anyway?

    I mean, they put out a lot of gold in that era.

    Including that awesome Secret of Evermore game. Note how I said awesome. Anyway, derailed thread is derailed.

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    CherrnCherrn Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    LewieP wrote: »
    What's the deal with excluding squaresoft anyway?

    I mean, they put out a lot of gold in that era.

    "The SNES has shit for RPGs if you removed the tons and tons of good, quality RPGs".

    I've never understood that argument. I personally thought some of Enix's games reached the levels of Squaresoft's, but even then it's not like there weren't a lot of good ones on there. This is a pointless argument, much like the SNES vs. Megadrive shit that's starting up now.

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    AJRAJR Some guy who wrestles NorwichRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    LewieP wrote: »
    What's the deal with excluding squaresoft anyway?

    I mean, they put out a lot of gold in that era.

    Huh? I’m just saying that there were a fair few really good non-Square RPGs, because a statement was made that said otherwise. I really enjoyed what I played of the SNES Final Fantasies, Chrono Trigger, Super Paper Mario and Secret of Mana.

    But I’m not going to derail the thread any further.

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    EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2008
    What I should have said was that the SNES didn't have shit's worth of good RPGs that didn't have Squaresoft slapped somewhere on the label. And a lot of them are just carbon copies of each other, dragons and swords and a kingdom to save. Chocobos and Mithril Armor.

    On the Genesis you had some variation, with games like the Phantasy Star series taking you through futuristic cities and other planets, and Oasis being set in the far east.

    The point is, people who automatically dismiss the game for being on a Genesis (or a dead system in general) are retarded. Don't like the way it looks? Don't buy it. And don't post a line of bullshit because you're too stupid to understand why anyone would want to create a game for a twenty year old system. The answer is "because they want to".

    But you guys go back to posting "lol why would they do it on the Genesis when they could do it on the SNES??" if you want.

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Einhander wrote: »
    Ten games in a genre is pretty much the definition of little.

    Yet that list is bigger than the total number of RPGs the Genny had...

    I'm sorry but no matter how you look at it the SNES destroys the Genesis in the RPG field. Quantity, quality, variety.

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    EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2008
    Seriously? You're seriously going to try and say that the list of ten non-Square RPGs is larger than the entire Genesis RPG library?

    You're really trying to say that?

    I mean, honestly, not a joke, you think that the Genesis had less than ten RPGs?

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Einhander wrote: »
    Seriously? You're seriously going to try and say that the list of ten non-Square RPGs is larger than the entire Genesis RPG library?

    You're really trying to say that?

    I mean, honestly, not a joke, you think that the Genesis had less than ten RPGs?

    Pretty much, yeah. Depends on how far you extend the RPG banner.

    I can only remember seven or so.

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    EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2008
    Oh lord.

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    EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2008
    Off of the top of my head (in alphabetical order):

    Beggar Prince
    Crusader of Centy
    Dragon Slayer
    Dungeons and Dragons: Warriors of the Eternal Sun
    Fatal Labyrinth
    Light Crusader
    Might and Magic II
    Phantasy Star II
    Phantasy Star III
    Phantasy Star IV
    Rings of Power
    Shadowrun
    Shining Force
    Shining Force II
    Shining in the Darkness
    Sorcerer's Kingdom
    Super Hydlide
    Surging Aura
    Sword of Vermilion
    Traysia
    Warsong (Langrisser)
    Ys III

    There's the first 22 I could think of. I'm sure I could come up with more if I bothered to take more time and wracked my brain a bit. If you don't count Beggar Prince that's three times as many RPGs as you told me were on the Genesis, and that's just off the top of my head.

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Well, lookie there.

    Not bad.

    I wonder how many non Square SNES RPGs I could list, without overlapping with the previously mentioned twelve games.


    FE III, IV,V
    DQ IV,V
    Tactics Ogre
    SMT, SMT II, I think
    7th Saga
    Paladins Quest
    three different DBZ RPGs
    5 or so Ultima games
    6 or so Wizardry games
    Eye of the Beholder port
    YS III-V
    Robotrek
    Arcana
    Metal Max 2
    Lord of the Rings
    Twisted Tales of Spike Mcfang
    Might and Magic II,III

    and a whole bunch more.

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    EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2008
    You're still an idiot for trying to say the Genesis only had ten RPGs.

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Well, lookie there.

    Not bad.

    I wonder how many non Square SNES RPGs I could list, without overlapping with the previously mentioned twelve games.


    FE III, IV,V
    DQ IV,V
    Tactics Ogre
    SMT, SMT II, I think
    7th Saga
    Paladins Quest
    three different DBZ RPGs
    5 or so Ultima games
    6 or so Wizardry games
    Eye of the Beholder port
    YS III-V
    Robotrek
    Arcana
    Metal Max 2
    Lord of the Rings
    Twisted Tales of Spike Mcfang
    Might and Magic II,III

    and a whole bunch more.
    Dragon Quest 4 was on the NES. 6 was on the SNES, though.

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Well, lookie there.

    Not bad.

    I wonder how many non Square SNES RPGs I could list, without overlapping with the previously mentioned twelve games.


    FE III, IV,V
    DQ IV,V
    Tactics Ogre
    SMT, SMT II, I think
    7th Saga
    Paladins Quest
    three different DBZ RPGs
    5 or so Ultima games
    6 or so Wizardry games
    Eye of the Beholder port
    YS III-V
    Robotrek
    Arcana
    Metal Max 2
    Lord of the Rings
    Twisted Tales of Spike Mcfang
    Might and Magic II,III

    and a whole bunch more.
    Dragon Quest 4 was on the NES. 6 was on the SNES, though.

    Yeah, I noticed.

    Ok, so I was off a bit on Genesis RPGs. Also you can cut my list in half if you change the rules to Square Enix titles. Enix was huge on the SNES.

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