I'm honestly not a big fan of the combat system, either.
I just don't find it all that fun.
Well, that's just a matter of taste, and I can totally see it not appealing to someone. Luckily, old editions never expire, so you can stick with 3.5.
I was just curious as to why it ya didn't like it, is all.
Not the hugest fan of 3.5, either, frankly.
well then
was there something you were expecting 4e to do differently that would've made you more enthusiastic about the game?
and if so, what
No, it pretty much met exactly what my expectations were. It's a great marketing vehicle for miniatures.
see now thanatos why you gotta go and be a jerk.
if you don't like 4e's combat that's cool, if you don't feel that D&D provides enough facilitation for roleplaying non-combat stuff, that's cool.
but dismissing the game entirely as a "vehicle for miniatures" just makes you come across as a judgmental prick. Most people I know who play D&D don't use or buy miniatures. In fact, I don't think I've ever come across people who buy miniatures exclusively for D&D, and I've been playing the game for 15 years. The only place I've seen miniatures were at conventions, where the miniatures were actually provided by the convention organizers.
It's one thing to say "I'm not a fan of this game, it's not for me", but dismissing it as something it isn't just makes you a jerk.
EDIT: Especially because I can sing and play guitar on certain songs hella well.
I mostly play drums and haven't had anyone over to jam since I moved up here. BFF?
Move to Washington state and we'll party like wanna-be rock stars.
Even better: You move to Washington D.C. and we'll rock like wanna-be party stars.
Ew, no. I'll stay where I am, thanks.
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ZimmydoomAccept no substitutesRegistered Userregular
edited June 2008
Isn't the whole point of D&D that if you don't like a rule, you just ignore it and either roleplay/make one up to fill in the gap?
The one real session of D&D I've played in years, I was tooling around with a low-level Illusionist during an ambush by some pissed off wood-elves in the mist. Our elven cleric was a drama queen and being a bitch OOC she refused to do anything in-game to talk to them, so we were forced to fight out-numbered and out-gunned, which the DM really hadn't planned on being necessary.
I wound up rolling consecutive 20s on perception checks and let off a flash spell six inches in front of the face of one sniper who was giving us the most trouble. He promptly fell out of the tree he was in and the DM declared his neck snapped upon hitting the ground, buying us time to retreat.
Basically we just said "fuck the rules" and role-played ourselves a way out of the mess.
Our crazy evil-possessed dwarf later gutted the bitch in her sleep.
Zimmydoom, Zimmydoom
Flew away in a balloon
Had sex with polar bears
While sitting in a reclining chair
Now there are Zim-Bear hybrids
Running around and clawing eyelids
Watch out, a Zim-Bear is about to have sex with yooooooou!
I'm honestly not a big fan of the combat system, either.
I just don't find it all that fun.
Well, that's just a matter of taste, and I can totally see it not appealing to someone. Luckily, old editions never expire, so you can stick with 3.5.
I was just curious as to why it ya didn't like it, is all.
Not the hugest fan of 3.5, either, frankly.
well then
was there something you were expecting 4e to do differently that would've made you more enthusiastic about the game?
and if so, what
No, it pretty much met exactly what my expectations were. It's a great marketing vehicle for miniatures.
see now thanatos why you gotta go and be a jerk.
if you don't like 4e's combat that's cool, if you don't feel that D&D provides enough facilitation for roleplaying non-combat stuff, that's cool.
but dismissing the game entirely as a "vehicle for miniatures" just makes you come across as a judgmental prick. Most people I know who play D&D don't use or buy miniatures. In fact, I don't think I've ever come across people who buy miniatures exclusively for D&D, and I've been playing the game for 15 years. The only place I've seen miniatures were at conventions, where the miniatures were actually provided by the convention organizers.
It's one thing to say "I'm not a fan of this game, it's not for me", but dismissing it as something it isn't just makes you a jerk.
Are you denying that it's a good marketing vehicle for miniatures?
And I'm not saying that it's impossible to play it without miniatures, just that the game is a great vehicle for marketing miniatures (which I think is hard to disagree with). And I'm not saying that I don't see the appeal of the game; it's just not for me.
But if you're telling yourself "no, there was no motivation to sell miniatures behind the design of 4e, either primary or secondary," I think you probably need to wake up and smell the goddamn coffee.
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HachfaceNot the Minister Farrakhan you're thinking ofDammit, Shepard!Registered Userregular
edited June 2008
It's become extremely difficult to get a group if 4+ friends together for regular D&D games. Given this, 4e is an expense I cannot justify.
Zimmydoom, Zimmydoom
Flew away in a balloon
Had sex with polar bears
While sitting in a reclining chair
Now there are Zim-Bear hybrids
Running around and clawing eyelids
Watch out, a Zim-Bear is about to have sex with yooooooou!
Zimmydoom, Zimmydoom
Flew away in a balloon
Had sex with polar bears
While sitting in a reclining chair
Now there are Zim-Bear hybrids
Running around and clawing eyelids
Watch out, a Zim-Bear is about to have sex with yooooooou!
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see now thanatos why you gotta go and be a jerk.
if you don't like 4e's combat that's cool, if you don't feel that D&D provides enough facilitation for roleplaying non-combat stuff, that's cool.
but dismissing the game entirely as a "vehicle for miniatures" just makes you come across as a judgmental prick. Most people I know who play D&D don't use or buy miniatures. In fact, I don't think I've ever come across people who buy miniatures exclusively for D&D, and I've been playing the game for 15 years. The only place I've seen miniatures were at conventions, where the miniatures were actually provided by the convention organizers.
It's one thing to say "I'm not a fan of this game, it's not for me", but dismissing it as something it isn't just makes you a jerk.
21 in 7 days! Fuck yeah Hach!
Wooo-oh who am I kidding
hi5!
The one real session of D&D I've played in years, I was tooling around with a low-level Illusionist during an ambush by some pissed off wood-elves in the mist. Our elven cleric was a drama queen and being a bitch OOC she refused to do anything in-game to talk to them, so we were forced to fight out-numbered and out-gunned, which the DM really hadn't planned on being necessary.
I wound up rolling consecutive 20s on perception checks and let off a flash spell six inches in front of the face of one sniper who was giving us the most trouble. He promptly fell out of the tree he was in and the DM declared his neck snapped upon hitting the ground, buying us time to retreat.
Basically we just said "fuck the rules" and role-played ourselves a way out of the mess.
Our crazy evil-possessed dwarf later gutted the bitch in her sleep.
And I'm not saying that it's impossible to play it without miniatures, just that the game is a great vehicle for marketing miniatures (which I think is hard to disagree with). And I'm not saying that I don't see the appeal of the game; it's just not for me.
But if you're telling yourself "no, there was no motivation to sell miniatures behind the design of 4e, either primary or secondary," I think you probably need to wake up and smell the goddamn coffee.
Yes, but is he wearing her corpse like a smoker jacket Ed Gein-style?
That being said, I still like the game a whole hell of a lot. THAC0 made my skin crawl.
Well, it was his armor that was possessed, and since he couldn't take it off it would have been kinda difficult.
We did joke about him wearing her head as a hat like the crazy guy from Con Air, though.
Yeah, and Grand Theft Auto made a lot of money, and was commercially successful.
But if I said "Grand Theft Auto IV was what I expected. A great way for Rockstar to make money"
that's a douchebag thing to say, because I'm being a dismissve asshole about a game people enjoy just because I don't enjoy it personally.
I want my fucking flying skateboard
You reinstalled too, huh?
The Butcher didn't give me any trouble at all, actually.
Leoric, on the other hand, was a fucking whore.
I am gonna get those hi-tops and a Delorean. I'll see y'all in the future.
Uh, normally he doesn't, just stand behind grates and fire arrows.
but I forgot to bring a bow.
Only if it's got POW-WAH!
It would if you ran over a black minister with it
Thanatos!
God exists only because Chuck Norris allows him to.
Baba booey.
Do you have any plutonium?