Going by that, I'm a Gen-X'er, as I was born in 77.
I take mad contention with Gen-Y being from 1982-2001. Kids born after 1994 are completely different than Gen-Y'ers and should be known as the "What has the internet done?!" Generation.
I think they were using 9/11 as the cutoff point for the next gen. I've heard similar things about the new generation are those that will have no recollection of the attacks.
9/11 wasn't as important in the big picture as the Berlin wall falling.
Wait, I'm 21 now, meaning I was born in 1987. Does that make me Cold-Y or Echo Generation or something?
I remember the time before mobile phones and I remember when there was no sky TV, I also remember before broadband and before there were PC's in houses.
I think there was always a POS IBM or Macintosh at home. No one ever used it it though, except my dad for spreadsheets, and me, for Wolfenstein. There was nothing else to do with it really.
Going by that, I'm a Gen-X'er, as I was born in 77.
I take mad contention with Gen-Y being from 1982-2001. Kids born after 1994 are completely different than Gen-Y'ers and should be known as the "What has the internet done?!" Generation.
What are 14 year olds like today anyway?
Weird, based on my sister and her friends.
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I think they were using 9/11 as the cutoff point for the next gen. I've heard similar things about the new generation are those that will have no recollection of the attacks.
9/11 wasn't as important in the big picture as the Berlin wall falling.
I get the feeling that 9/11 is going to be our Vietnam War.
i.e. we're going to have to wait until our entire generation dies off before people will just shut the fuck up about it.
Going by that, I'm a Gen-X'er, as I was born in 77.
I take mad contention with Gen-Y being from 1982-2001. Kids born after 1994 are completely different than Gen-Y'ers and should be known as the "What has the internet done?!" Generation.
What are 14 year olds like today anyway?
Weird, based on my sister and her friends.
info plz. I used the internet a lot when I was 14, I'm wondering what's considerably different...
I think they were using 9/11 as the cutoff point for the next gen. I've heard similar things about the new generation are those that will have no recollection of the attacks.
9/11 wasn't as important in the big picture as the Berlin wall falling.
I get the feeling that 9/11 is going to be our Vietnam War.
i.e. we're going to have to wait until our entire generation dies off before people will just shut the fuck up about it.
Nah. 9/11 and the Iraq War will be in a symbiotic relationship for our whole generation. One side brings up one, the other brings up the other.
I think they were using 9/11 as the cutoff point for the next gen. I've heard similar things about the new generation are those that will have no recollection of the attacks.
9/11 wasn't as important in the big picture as the Berlin wall falling.
I get the feeling that 9/11 is going to be our Vietnam War.
i.e. we're going to have to wait until our entire generation dies off before people will just shut the fuck up about it.
Nah. 9/11 and the Iraq War will be in a symbiotic relationship for our whole generation. One side brings up one, the other brings up the other.
God, we're not even in charge yet, and I'm already tired of us.
I think they were using 9/11 as the cutoff point for the next gen. I've heard similar things about the new generation are those that will have no recollection of the attacks.
9/11 wasn't as important in the big picture as the Berlin wall falling.
I get the feeling that 9/11 is going to be our Vietnam War.
i.e. we're going to have to wait until our entire generation dies off before people will just shut the fuck up about it.
Nah. 9/11 and the Iraq War will be in a symbiotic relationship for our whole generation. One side brings up one, the other brings up the other.
God, we're not even in charge yet, and I'm already tired of us.
We can't possibly be worse then Boomers. I mean, their parents were the Greatest Generation, a generation that was supposedly...great. Boomers are horrible. Good parents = Bad children. Our parents are the Boomers...it has to be Bad parents = Good children, right? I mean, we are basically the opposite of the Boomer generation. Maybe it has to do with the whole rebelling against your parents thing, but from what I have read from these forums, not many Gen Y's are like their parents (seems that 99% of people's parents are voting for McCain, for example).
Of course, our children (Generation "Jesus Christ these selfish bastards"?) are probably going to suck.
I think they were using 9/11 as the cutoff point for the next gen. I've heard similar things about the new generation are those that will have no recollection of the attacks.
9/11 wasn't as important in the big picture as the Berlin wall falling.
I get the feeling that 9/11 is going to be our Vietnam War.
i.e. we're going to have to wait until our entire generation dies off before people will just shut the fuck up about it.
Nah. 9/11 and the Iraq War will be in a symbiotic relationship for our whole generation. One side brings up one, the other brings up the other.
God, we're not even in charge yet, and I'm already tired of us.
9/11 is the opposite of the Berlin Wall in that the latter is the symbol of the disintegration of the defining political struggle in the world (Cold War) while the former is the symbol of the new defining political struggle (nonstate actors.) Like it or not, it is an important event. I think eventually "Nevar Forget!" will disappear. The relationship between Vietnam and Iraq is that they will be thought of in similar terms - wars we never should have been involved in in the first place.
Also, the idea (above) that boomer parents of Gen Y's are horrible and 99% voting for McCain is ridiculous. Tons of them are the product of 1960s and 70s counterculture and are liberal as all hell. I know my parents are.
I do get tired of the "I can't wait till the Boomers die off! Man, once the Gen X/Y'ers are in power, things are going to be different!" rhetoric that gets thrown around every now and then. In conversations about drugs, someone always says "90% of our generation smokes pot; once we're the ones in charge, it'll finally be legalized!" as if the Baby Boomers were not a product of the psychedelic Sixties. Or it's "Our generation grew up on Mario/ Gangsta rap/ Tarantino; once we're the ones in charge, regulation of entertainment will be more reasonable!" as if the Boomers didn't have their own subversive music and entertainment. Eventually, all people grow up and become cranky assholes, no matter how progressive they are in their youth.
I do get tired of the "I can't wait till the Boomers die off! Man, once the Gen X/Y'ers are in power, things are going to be different!" rhetoric that gets thrown around every now and then. In conversations about drugs, someone always says "90% of our generation smokes pot; once we're the ones in charge, it'll finally be legalized!" as if the Baby Boomers were not a product of the psychedelic Sixties. Or it's "Our generation grew up on Mario/ Gangsta rap/ Tarantino; once we're the ones in charge, regulation of entertainment will be more reasonable!" as if the Boomers didn't have their own subversive music and entertainment. Eventually, all people grow up and become cranky assholes, no matter how progressive they are in their youth.
Yeah DarkCrawler, sorry to rag on you specifically but this is what I was going for. The idea that boomers are ultraconservative or something is way off-base. Hello, Woodstock anybody? And back in the 70s you could walk down the street in plenty of places in America smoking a joint and even a police officer wouldn't care as long as you didn't flaunt it. Would anyone be able to get away with that today?
I'm mostly just hoping that when they bitch about how long it takes to download the latest movie into their cortical chip I can rant about how in the old days we had to go places and pick up movies and watch them on a screen. And pay for each one individually.
I'm pretty sure that last bit will be what makes them appreciate the future I imagine.
I do get tired of the "I can't wait till the Boomers die off! Man, once the Gen X/Y'ers are in power, things are going to be different!" rhetoric that gets thrown around every now and then. In conversations about drugs, someone always says "90% of our generation smokes pot; once we're the ones in charge, it'll finally be legalized!" as if the Baby Boomers were not a product of the psychedelic Sixties. Or it's "Our generation grew up on Mario/ Gangsta rap/ Tarantino; once we're the ones in charge, regulation of entertainment will be more reasonable!" as if the Boomers didn't have their own subversive music and entertainment. Eventually, all people grow up and become cranky assholes, no matter how progressive they are in their youth.
Yeah DarkCrawler, sorry to rag on you specifically but this is what I was going for. The idea that boomers are ultraconservative or something is way off-base. Hello, Woodstock anybody? And back in the 70s you could walk down the street in plenty of places in America smoking a joint and even a police officer wouldn't care as long as you didn't flaunt it. Would anyone be able to get away with that today?
Yeah, and look at what the generation that produced Woodstock thinks of drugs now?
Hence, the hate.
Also, I refuse to consider anyone who doesn't remember waiting patiently for porn pictures to download over a 56k modem part of my generation.
Fucking kids today with their broadband and their porn videos have no appreciation for how scarce porn used to be.
I do get tired of the "I can't wait till the Boomers die off! Man, once the Gen X/Y'ers are in power, things are going to be different!" rhetoric that gets thrown around every now and then. In conversations about drugs, someone always says "90% of our generation smokes pot; once we're the ones in charge, it'll finally be legalized!" as if the Baby Boomers were not a product of the psychedelic Sixties. Or it's "Our generation grew up on Mario/ Gangsta rap/ Tarantino; once we're the ones in charge, regulation of entertainment will be more reasonable!" as if the Boomers didn't have their own subversive music and entertainment. Eventually, all people grow up and become cranky assholes, no matter how progressive they are in their youth.
Yeah DarkCrawler, sorry to rag on you specifically but this is what I was going for. The idea that boomers are ultraconservative or something is way off-base. Hello, Woodstock anybody? And back in the 70s you could walk down the street in plenty of places in America smoking a joint and even a police officer wouldn't care as long as you didn't flaunt it. Would anyone be able to get away with that today?
Yeah, and look at what the generation that produced Woodstock thinks of drugs now?
Hence, the hate.
Also, I refuse to consider anyone who doesn't remember waiting patiently for porn pictures to download over a 56k modem part of my generation.
Fucking kids today with their broadband and their porn videos have no appreciation for how scarce porn used to be.
The main reson we look down on the boomers is that they didn't get anything done when they were young and their whole reputation is based upon them patting themselves on the back. The civil rights movement movement should be credited to the black community, which, due to segregation, was a fairly separate group, and the thought that they get credit for ending Vietnam is just plain stupid.
Wait, I'm 21 now, meaning I was born in 1987. Does that make me Cold-Y or Echo Generation or something?
I remember the time before mobile phones and I remember when there was no sky TV, I also remember before broadband and before there were PC's in houses.
It makes you Y.
The point of Cold-Y is that they remember pre-Berlin Wall. As in the actual Cold War. That happened when you were two.
I'm Gen Y and I was born in 84.
Yeah, I actually remember watching the Berlin Wall being torn down on TV. It was a big deal. Took years for mapmakers to figure everything out in Eastern Europe.
It was weird that there wasn't an East Germany anymore.
I actually remember there being an East/West Germany, but didn't get why. I only knew because they were separate teams in Goal on my NES, and West Germany was crazy good.
I'm so a pre Berlin Wall type, when I went to Berlin I even did the pilgrimage to the Stasi Museum!
We can't possibly be worse then Boomers. I mean, their parents were the Greatest Generation, a generation that was supposedly...great. Boomers are horrible. Good parents = Bad children. Our parents are the Boomers...it has to be Bad parents = Good children, right? I mean, we are basically the opposite of the Boomer generation. Maybe it has to do with the whole rebelling against your parents thing, but from what I have read from these forums, not many Gen Y's are like their parents (seems that 99% of people's parents are voting for McCain, for example).
Of course, our children (Generation "Jesus Christ these selfish bastards"?) are probably going to suck.
Ah, but now that we've spotted the pattern, all we have to do is make sure to beat them enough
We can't possibly be worse then Boomers. I mean, their parents were the Greatest Generation, a generation that was supposedly...great. Boomers are horrible. Good parents = Bad children. Our parents are the Boomers...it has to be Bad parents = Good children, right? I mean, we are basically the opposite of the Boomer generation. Maybe it has to do with the whole rebelling against your parents thing, but from what I have read from these forums, not many Gen Y's are like their parents (seems that 99% of people's parents are voting for McCain, for example).
Of course, our children (Generation "Jesus Christ these selfish bastards"?) are probably going to suck.
Ah, but now that we've spotted the pattern, all we have to do is make sure to beat them enough
Excellent!
I know that Generation X is starting to raise some horrible brats. I'm going start punching them when I see one.
We can't possibly be worse then Boomers. I mean, their parents were the Greatest Generation, a generation that was supposedly...great. Boomers are horrible. Good parents = Bad children. Our parents are the Boomers...it has to be Bad parents = Good children, right? I mean, we are basically the opposite of the Boomer generation. Maybe it has to do with the whole rebelling against your parents thing, but from what I have read from these forums, not many Gen Y's are like their parents (seems that 99% of people's parents are voting for McCain, for example).
Of course, our children (Generation "Jesus Christ these selfish bastards"?) are probably going to suck.
Ah, but now that we've spotted the pattern, all we have to do is make sure to beat them enough
Excellent!
I know that Generation X is starting to raise some horrible brats. I'm going start punching them when I see one.
Personally I'm looking forward to Frances Bean Cobain's first album.
And their music sucks and they play it too damn loud and they smoke too much weed and stay out all night drinking ...
heh actually, I've seen a lot of suspicious writing from the older folks over how pot use is surprisingly low in the current under-19 crowd. The X-ers don't like it, no sir :P
I've noticed that too. None of my older friends care too much about drugs or are totally against them, while my younger Y friends are into experimenting and smoking it up. A few of them have warned me off of salvia (not that I was even remotely in danger of trying that) because they saw demons when they tried it.
Drugs are a hell of a drug, man.
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That seems odd. I mean, I remember no cell phones and PCs but I came of age as they gained traction.
This stuff gained traction when you were five years old, so I'm not sure "came of age" definition you're working with. :P
I didn't have 56k until I was 12, and it was okay to not have a cell phone until I was 14 when I got sick and tired of having to wait around after school for another hour so someone to pick me up and convinced my dad to get me one. That was 4 years ago. That was also when we got cable in the house (internet + TV). It was like a sudden expansion of my horizons when that happened, man. Far out.
So yeah that is my criteria for "coming of age."
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I'd have to say we're the lazy generation. The generations of armchair protests and trying to change policy on Facebook and Reddit. I think we're going to see an end, or at least a massive downwards trend in real, honest-to-goodness protests. My economics teacher even commented on it, saying that when they started messing with student loans in his day, students were out there begin heard. Now there's not even a peep.
I'd have to say we're the lazy generation. The generations of armchair protests and trying to change policy on Facebook and Reddit. I think we're going to see an end, or at least a massive downwards trend in real, honest-to-goodness protests. My economics teacher even commented on it, saying that when they started messing with student loans in his day, students were out there begin heard. Now there's not even a peep.
Protests are antiquated. They don't work any more, because they're strictly peaceful and government knows they're peaceful.
When the protest was originally use it was not strictly peaceful in intent - there was a very real undercurrent that the protest meant those same people were pretty much ready to resort to violence and uprising.
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What are 14 year olds like today anyway?
9/11 wasn't as important in the big picture as the Berlin wall falling.
I think there was always a POS IBM or Macintosh at home. No one ever used it it though, except my dad for spreadsheets, and me, for Wolfenstein. There was nothing else to do with it really.
Weird, based on my sister and her friends.
i.e. we're going to have to wait until our entire generation dies off before people will just shut the fuck up about it.
info plz. I used the internet a lot when I was 14, I'm wondering what's considerably different...
Nah. 9/11 and the Iraq War will be in a symbiotic relationship for our whole generation. One side brings up one, the other brings up the other.
We can't possibly be worse then Boomers. I mean, their parents were the Greatest Generation, a generation that was supposedly...great. Boomers are horrible. Good parents = Bad children. Our parents are the Boomers...it has to be Bad parents = Good children, right? I mean, we are basically the opposite of the Boomer generation. Maybe it has to do with the whole rebelling against your parents thing, but from what I have read from these forums, not many Gen Y's are like their parents (seems that 99% of people's parents are voting for McCain, for example).
Of course, our children (Generation "Jesus Christ these selfish bastards"?) are probably going to suck.
9/11 is the opposite of the Berlin Wall in that the latter is the symbol of the disintegration of the defining political struggle in the world (Cold War) while the former is the symbol of the new defining political struggle (nonstate actors.) Like it or not, it is an important event. I think eventually "Nevar Forget!" will disappear. The relationship between Vietnam and Iraq is that they will be thought of in similar terms - wars we never should have been involved in in the first place.
Also, the idea (above) that boomer parents of Gen Y's are horrible and 99% voting for McCain is ridiculous. Tons of them are the product of 1960s and 70s counterculture and are liberal as all hell. I know my parents are.
Yeah DarkCrawler, sorry to rag on you specifically but this is what I was going for. The idea that boomers are ultraconservative or something is way off-base. Hello, Woodstock anybody? And back in the 70s you could walk down the street in plenty of places in America smoking a joint and even a police officer wouldn't care as long as you didn't flaunt it. Would anyone be able to get away with that today?
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shit, now I wanna write a book about this.
That seems odd. I mean, I remember no cell phones and PCs but I came of age as they gained traction.
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This stuff gained traction when you were five years old, so I'm not sure "came of age" definition you're working with. :P
Hmm, my stories are way lamer than my grandfather's. Hopefully the lameness of my grand kids with be at an equal ratio.
Grandpa, grandpa!
Tell us again about the time Apple released a new, smaller product!
You will be able to tell them about how you fought against the robots in the Great Rebellion.
I'm pretty sure that last bit will be what makes them appreciate the future I imagine.
Yeah, and look at what the generation that produced Woodstock thinks of drugs now?
Hence, the hate.
Also, I refuse to consider anyone who doesn't remember waiting patiently for porn pictures to download over a 56k modem part of my generation.
Fucking kids today with their broadband and their porn videos have no appreciation for how scarce porn used to be.
God, I know. All doing a Yahoo search for "Pamela Anderson naked" at the public library.
The main reson we look down on the boomers is that they didn't get anything done when they were young and their whole reputation is based upon them patting themselves on the back. The civil rights movement movement should be credited to the black community, which, due to segregation, was a fairly separate group, and the thought that they get credit for ending Vietnam is just plain stupid.
Millenials always makes me think of these instead.
I'm so a pre Berlin Wall type, when I went to Berlin I even did the pilgrimage to the Stasi Museum!
Alarmingly skinny, too much hair, and bad taste in pants. They can get off my lawn.
Ah, but now that we've spotted the pattern, all we have to do is make sure to beat them enough
Aye, what's with all the boys having hair like hockey stars from the 70s?
Fucking punk kids.
Doesn't sound too different from before honestly.
Oy...
And their music sucks and they play it too damn loud and they smoke too much weed and stay out all night drinking ...
Excellent!
I know that Generation X is starting to raise some horrible brats. I'm going start punching them when I see one.
Personally I'm looking forward to Frances Bean Cobain's first album.
heh actually, I've seen a lot of suspicious writing from the older folks over how pot use is surprisingly low in the current under-19 crowd. The X-ers don't like it, no sir :P
Drugs are a hell of a drug, man.
I didn't have 56k until I was 12, and it was okay to not have a cell phone until I was 14 when I got sick and tired of having to wait around after school for another hour so someone to pick me up and convinced my dad to get me one. That was 4 years ago. That was also when we got cable in the house (internet + TV). It was like a sudden expansion of my horizons when that happened, man. Far out.
So yeah that is my criteria for "coming of age."
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When the protest was originally use it was not strictly peaceful in intent - there was a very real undercurrent that the protest meant those same people were pretty much ready to resort to violence and uprising.