Most of the anime I have seen seems to be genuinely completely awful and most fans seem genuinely oblivious as to why. There's some cool stuff out there though I guess
I watch anime and I laughed at the strip. Basically anyone who gets offended is in all likelihood the sort of person that gives anime fans their bad rep.
Or someone really sick of being repeatedly called a pedophile because they watch anime.
This is an honest question: how many times have you been called a pedophile outside of the internet? And I mean you personally, not just hearing someone be all "rargh all people that watch anime are pedophiles".
I watch anime and I laughed at the strip. Basically anyone who gets offended is in all likelihood the sort of person that gives anime fans their bad rep.
Or someone really sick of being repeatedly called a pedophile because they watch anime.
This comic is actually good for anime fans. It shows that the creepy anime subcultures are just that, subcultures, and are recognized as such even by other nerds. In other words, it's great for non-creepy anime fandom.
Actually when Jerry does cosplay I want him to wear the Bee Suit he talks about in one of the PATVs. He mentions a black leotard then lets the viewers imagination fill in the rest. Screw imagination, I wanna see this for real.
I watch anime and I laughed at the strip. Basically anyone who gets offended is in all likelihood the sort of person that gives anime fans their bad rep.
EDIT:
Also, saying the strip was aimed at bronies is silly; if they had wanted to make a strip about My Little Pony, they would have just done so (they presumably keep a lawyer on retainer nowadays to avoid a Strawberry Shortcake-type debacle). Although it would be hard to make one without comic-Gabe jumping in with both feet.
I caught my first couple of episodes of MLP on TV over the weekend because my wife put on a channel with cartoons for the kids and it came on randomly.
I thought I would finally see what was so special about it, and why it could have so many adult fans.
Nope. Pure kids cartoon with above average art and writing. Not sure I see the appeal.
That's mostly it, to be honest. The characters are also surprisingly well done, although that might not be obvious without seeing more episodes. I don't really get the obsessive online fandom, but it is a fun little show. It's kind of interesting from a sociological standpoint that some people seem to find it easier to conceptualize the older male fans as wanting to rape little girls (because at least that "makes sense") than actually liking the show, but that's another discussion.
There's a certain cognitive dissonance involved in watching the show (as in "why am I enjoying something called 'My Little Pony' that is literally about talking magical horses, albeit ones with semi-frequent amusing mental breakdowns?"), but fuck me if the two-part season 2 ending wasn't legitimately one of the better finales of last season. I kind of enjoy the sensation that reality has broken somewhere to make that possible.
What is people start sexualising these people in car costumes? Full Goddamn Circle!
Well, so far we've got
sexualised WW2 pilots
Sexualised soda cans
sexualised guns
and also three series involving genderflipped, sexualised Sengoku Period generals...all of which released in the last year
Although a lot of newer anime (and manga) creeps me out I enjoyed the f*ck out of GTO (the manga). People should dress up like GTO at conventions, and the world will be a better place.
Hilarious. Everyone over-analyzing this and trying to explain it is also hilarious.
As someone else in here said, the character Tycho is into bestiality, yet people are reading far enough into this comic that it could practically be Atlas Shrugged. Who is Pedoanime Galt.
Come to think of it, the main reason this comic comes across as weird is because of the Tycho = Jerry, Mike = Gabe thing that's been going on in the comics for a while now.
By "for a while now", do you mean "for over a decade"?
don't talk to me about how every media and group has bad stuff and you're watching Cowboy Bebop instead of Strike Witches
Oh fuck, you just reminded me that Sky Girls exists. Any medium that contains that probably deserves some collateral damage, to be honest.
I'll see your Strike Witches and raise you Seikon no Qwazer/Qwazer of the Stigmata.
Really, learning about that almost made me think about quitting (shudders)
The fact that that recently got licensed while great stuff like Dennou Coil and Mawaru Penguindrum still float in limbo made me curse out several deities
As someone with a reasonably sized anime collection, I feel like I'm supposed to be insulted by this, but I just can't work up to it. Probably because it's mostly stuff like Ghost in the Shell SAC, Paranoia Agent, Cromartie High, etc. The only magical girl show I've ever watched was Madoka Magica*, and that was mostly a deconstruction of the genre, although I could still could have done without the (misleadingly) sexualized intro.
People need to stop being so overly-defensive about their hobbies, I swear some posters in this thread were one sentence away from shouting "animesecution" or something. Here's a hint, for those unable to pick up on social cues: If someone says "all anime is for pedophiles", they're probably either making a joke or just trying to get a rise out of you. You can make a short comment that not everything in the medium revolves around underage girls if you really think they're that ignorant, but I would leave it at that.
Comic was funny, and to me representative more of an emotional state of irritation and creeped-outedness than some coherent argument about a medium. Tycho has mentioned enjoying Full Metal Alchemist before, for anyone still unconvinced.
* Fun Fact: I did a quick Google search to make sure I had the name right, and I'm pretty sure the official madokamagicausa.com technically qualifies as a troll site.
The recent series I enjoy such as Zetman, Space Brothers/Uchuu Kyoudai, Shirokuma Cafe, Lupin,
Wait, Lupin's a recent series?
Oh, I'm just now remembering that I did hear something about them making a 2012 season out of it. I stopped keeping up with anime years ago, but I can still appreciate the nostalgia of the cel-painted shows that were around during my high school years.
I was referring to the new Lupin series that just started airing this last April.
Tycho expresses my exact feelings on the current state of popular Japanese animation.
I wouldn't count what he is referencing as "popular". That kind of stuff is niche.
"Popular" would mean mainstream things like the big three Shonens, Gundam, etc.
Edit: Well, actually Gundam is pretty niche.
Whenever I visit anime messageboards and sites, outside of the big three of One Piece, Naruto, Bleach.... all I see are discussion, images, and ravings about series of scantily clad little girls doing cute things with perverted sexual undertones in most of them.
The recent series I enjoy such as Zetman, Space Brothers/Uchuu Kyoudai, Shirokuma Cafe, Lupin, Kids on the Slope/Sakamichi no Apollon are largely ignored. The anime community is enamored with little girls and the "moe" genre, something which I find distasteful and vapid.
I can't speak for those boards since I don't visit them, but really, don't let the subcultures bother you. Minorities can get heavily magnified on the internet, because the people most passionate about their hobbies/obsessions/interests are the ones who speak up the most and the loudest. (Actually, this has been touched on by some Anime/Manga creators: sometimes they spend to much time catering to loud subcultures and lose their core audience)
Like, I still play on RP servers in MMOs even though there may be people cybering in some corner of the zone. And in Star Trek fandom you have the slash fics (well, you have those in every fandom). You could probably find very strange Tycho/Gabe stuff (I don't want to know where those people hang out!).
The recent series I enjoy such as Zetman, Space Brothers/Uchuu Kyoudai, Shirokuma Cafe, Lupin,
Wait, Lupin's a recent series?
Oh, I'm just now remembering that I did hear something about them making a 2012 season out of it. I stopped keeping up with anime years ago, but I can still appreciate the nostalgia of the cel-painted shows that were around during my high school years.
Still, it's sad to still see this kind of generalization, even in this very thread..I just don't get how people can be so narrow-minded. I mean, there is a very, very large gap between "being a pedophile" and "watching anime". Heck, even between "being a pedophile" and "watching questionable anime (like the one parodied in the strip)".
here's the thing: i don't think this was meant as a generalization. from what i saw at the SDCC this year, this was very likely an actual interaction Mike and Jerry had at the PA booth. or at least a derivative of one.
the most hardcore of fans sometimes forget that other people, even persons steeped in the "culture", like Gabe and Tycho, might not be aware of their particular fandom. even worse, these fans sometimes forget how things can appear to an outside observer, even Con-goers who are generally aware of the different kinds of fandom.
an older dude, like Tycho, knowing about a loli-centric or merely bishojo-centric anime can look like pedophilia. take that in the context of the SDCC having a section containing nothing but body pillows, blow up dolls, and sex toys all featuring uncomfortably-young anime girls, and you can start to understand why Jerry wrote the strip this way.
I wasn't implying the comic strip was generalizing, sorry if it I came across that way. As I said, Mike & Jerry are smarter than this and yeah, given their interactions at Comic Con I can see how they came to make this strip.
Tycho expresses my exact feelings on the current state of popular Japanese animation.
I wouldn't count what he is referencing as "popular". That kind of stuff is niche.
"Popular" would mean mainstream things like the big three Shonens, Gundam, etc.
Edit: Well, actually Gundam is pretty niche.
Whenever I visit anime messageboards and sites, outside of the big three of One Piece, Naruto, Bleach.... all I see are discussion, images, and ravings about series of scantily clad little girls doing cute things with perverted sexual undertones in most of them.
The recent series I enjoy such as Zetman, Space Brothers/Uchuu Kyoudai, Shirokuma Cafe, Lupin, Kids on the Slope/Sakamichi no Apollon are largely ignored. The anime community is enamored with little girls and the "moe" genre, something which I find distasteful and vapid.
I have my biases because I'm just trying to enjoy one cute thing here but I can't because someone has to ruin it with some pedo shit and why do you do these things nonononono stop
Come to think of it, the main reason this comic comes across as weird is because of the Tycho = Jerry, Mike = Gabe thing that's been going on in the comics for a while now.
If it was just Tycho saying it people could write it off as the highest hypocrisy, as he is a dude who is totally into bestiality. The problem arises due to it being based on a con interaction with Jerry, so people who like the comic feel like they're being attacked by one of the creators.
Of course, it's mostly just guys on the internet taking things too seriously.
Yeah, that's how I took it. Tycho is an offensive, pretentious dick by nature. He's not at all politically correct about the way he goes about things. He's not a good person. Clearly Tycho needs to straight-up kill Gabe in another comic for some minor slight like they often did in the early ones to hammer this home.
Even as someone who has watched enough anime to be arbitrarily labeled as a pedophile from some of the less excellent people on this forum, I still found his comic hilarious. vOv
It is pretty dam sad that a lot of people are pretty much using this as a springboard for "lolol animesux" posturing.
It also does kind of hurt, just a little because I pretty much been asked by coworkers and others if me being a big anime fan makes me a "pedo-loli-freak-whatever". And trying to rationally, calmly explain that I'm not can be really frustrating.
"There are creepy freaks in every fandom. Every. Fandom. I am not one of them."
Well yeah, being a fan of loli-crap is kind of difficult when you're gay like me
you are aware that the general phenomenon is not just limited to little girls (the male side is not as visibly prevalent, but is certainly there), right? Not implying anything, but what you're saying is not the complete counter-argument you may think it is.
Yeah I know, which is why I said "loli" specifically. It's not a good counterargument I'll admit but sometimes I just get so damn frustrated at the argument I'll try to put any barrier I can to differentiate myself. Especially when it seems like just saying "Every fandom has creeps, I'm not one of them", won't cut it
forgive me for saying so, but the bolded section reads like an admission to being into shota (the male version). Again not trying to imply, but it's generally wise not to try and differentiate one creepy aspect of a thing from another, when trying to convince people of your non-perusal of the creepy stuff altogether (if that makes sense. I'm a little tired from lack of sleep). As to the rest, if anyone doesn't believe you when you adamantly tell them you aren't in the creepy side of the fandom, that's their problem.
Sigh...I concede, you're right. I didn't really think that through
And to be honest, the reason I initially ended getting so diffensive was because I took your quoted first reply to what I said ("Every fandom has creeps. I'm not one of them") as being sarcastic towards me. It seems I was mistaken and I'm sorry.
That's alright, I didn't realise you were being defensive. Thought you were still describing conversations with coworkers and the like.
It is pretty dam sad that a lot of people are pretty much using this as a springboard for "lolol animesux" posturing.
It also does kind of hurt, just a little because I pretty much been asked by coworkers and others if me being a big anime fan makes me a "pedo-loli-freak-whatever". And trying to rationally, calmly explain that I'm not can be really frustrating.
"There are creepy freaks in every fandom. Every. Fandom. I am not one of them."
Well yeah, being a fan of loli-crap is kind of difficult when you're gay like me
you are aware that the general phenomenon is not just limited to little girls (the male side is not as visibly prevalent, but is certainly there), right? Not implying anything, but what you're saying is not the complete counter-argument you may think it is.
Yeah I know, which is why I said "loli" specifically. It's not a good counterargument I'll admit but sometimes I just get so damn frustrated at the argument I'll try to put any barrier I can to differentiate myself. Especially when it seems like just saying "Every fandom has creeps, I'm not one of them", won't cut it
forgive me for saying so, but the bolded section reads like an admission to being into shota (the male version). Again not trying to imply, but it's generally wise not to try and differentiate one creepy aspect of a thing from another, when trying to convince people of your non-perusal of the creepy stuff altogether (if that makes sense. I'm a little tired from lack of sleep). As to the rest, if anyone doesn't believe you when you adamantly tell them you aren't in the creepy side of the fandom, that's their problem.
Sigh...I concede, you're right. I didn't really think that through
And to be honest, the reason I initially ended getting so diffensive was because I took your quoted first reply to what I said ("Every fandom has creeps. I'm not one of them") as being sarcastic towards me. It seems I was mistaken and I'm sorry.
Come to think of it, the main reason this comic comes across as weird is because of the Tycho = Jerry, Mike = Gabe thing that's been going on in the comics for a while now.
By "for a while now", do you mean "for over a decade"?
It is pretty dam sad that a lot of people are pretty much using this as a springboard for "lolol animesux" posturing.
It also does kind of hurt, just a little because I pretty much been asked by coworkers and others if me being a big anime fan makes me a "pedo-loli-freak-whatever". And trying to rationally, calmly explain that I'm not can be really frustrating.
"There are creepy freaks in every fandom. Every. Fandom. I am not one of them."
Well yeah, being a fan of loli-crap is kind of difficult when you're gay like me
you are aware that the general phenomenon is not just limited to little girls (the male side is not as visibly prevalent, but is certainly there), right? Not implying anything, but what you're saying is not the complete counter-argument you may think it is.
Yeah I know, which is why I said "loli" specifically. It's not a good counterargument I'll admit but sometimes I just get so damn frustrated at the argument I'll try to put any barrier I can to differentiate myself. Especially when it seems like just saying "Every fandom has creeps, I'm not one of them", won't cut it
forgive me for saying so, but the bolded section reads like an admission to being into shota (the male version). Again not trying to imply, but it's generally wise not to try and differentiate one creepy aspect of a thing from another, when trying to convince people of your non-perusal of the creepy stuff altogether (if that makes sense. I'm a little tired from lack of sleep). As to the rest, if anyone doesn't believe you when you adamantly tell them you aren't in the creepy side of the fandom, that's their problem.
A shit-load of anime is weird, to the point where "Otakus are pedos" is a mentality that exists in Japan.
Otaku are a minority, even in Japan, saying it's a "common stereotype" as I've seen in some previous posts here is ridiculous.
According THIS, there's around 1.7 million otaku in Japan, out of 128 million people.
This apparently includes gun-nuts and tech-nuts, nice otaku is a fancy way of saying "ULTRA NERD" not a synonym for pedophilia.
Also, most cute shows like K-on actually have a huge teenage girl fanbase.
A lot of otakus just enjoy the same shows, albeit like bronies, only less crazy or vocal.
Shit like "My Little Sister Can't be This Cute!" is something that is actually real.
Yes, that's actually more of a drama anime with some light comedy and an ironic title, since the sister in question is quite an obnoxious brat.
The conflict orbits around her desire to become an anime otaku with her brother trying to help her clean her act.
Nothing suggestive besides a few gags with the brother hiding her "little girl anime DVDs" and having the dad finding it and punching him. Pretty boring overall.
Remember that DS game where you touch schoolgirls with your stylus to see if they're witches? PA even did a comic on it.
Come to think of it, the main reason this comic comes across as weird is because of the Tycho = Jerry, Mike = Gabe thing that's been going on in the comics for a while now.
By "for a while now", do you mean "for over a decade"?
It is pretty dam sad that a lot of people are pretty much using this as a springboard for "lolol animesux" posturing.
It also does kind of hurt, just a little because I pretty much been asked by coworkers and others if me being a big anime fan makes me a "pedo-loli-freak-whatever". And trying to rationally, calmly explain that I'm not can be really frustrating.
"There are creepy freaks in every fandom. Every. Fandom. I am not one of them."
Well yeah, being a fan of loli-crap is kind of difficult when you're gay like me
you are aware that the general phenomenon is not just limited to little girls (the male side is not as visibly prevalent, but is certainly there), right? Not implying anything, but what you're saying is not the complete counter-argument you may think it is.
Yeah I know, which is why I said "loli" specifically. It's not a good counterargument I'll admit but sometimes I just get so damn frustrated at the argument I'll try to put any barrier I can to differentiate myself. Especially when it seems like just saying "Every fandom has creeps, I'm not one of them", won't cut it
Come to think of it, the main reason this comic comes across as weird is because of the Tycho = Jerry, Mike = Gabe thing that's been going on in the comics for a while now.
If it was just Tycho saying it people could write it off as the highest hypocrisy, as he is a dude who is totally into bestiality. The problem arises due to it being based on a con interaction with Jerry, so people who like the comic feel like they're being attacked by one of the creators.
Of course, it's mostly just guys on the internet taking things too seriously.
It is pretty dam sad that a lot of people are pretty much using this as a springboard for "lolol animesux" posturing.
It also does kind of hurt, just a little because I pretty much been asked by coworkers and others if me being a big anime fan makes me a "pedo-loli-freak-whatever". And trying to rationally, calmly explain that I'm not can be really frustrating.
"There are creepy freaks in every fandom. Every. Fandom. I am not one of them."
Well yeah, being a fan of loli-crap is kind of difficult when you're gay like me
you are aware that the general phenomenon is not just limited to little girls (the male side is not as visibly prevalent, but is certainly there), right? Not implying anything, but what you're saying is not the complete counter-argument you may think it is.
This is an honest question: how many times have you been called a pedophile outside of the internet? And I mean you personally, not just hearing someone be all "rargh all people that watch anime are pedophiles".
Maybe that is crazy. I might be a crazy guy.
Come on, don't try to tell me cosplay of this guy wouldn't be super hot:
EDIT:
Also, saying the strip was aimed at bronies is silly; if they had wanted to make a strip about My Little Pony, they would have just done so (they presumably keep a lawyer on retainer nowadays to avoid a Strawberry Shortcake-type debacle). Although it would be hard to make one without comic-Gabe jumping in with both feet.
That's mostly it, to be honest. The characters are also surprisingly well done, although that might not be obvious without seeing more episodes. I don't really get the obsessive online fandom, but it is a fun little show. It's kind of interesting from a sociological standpoint that some people seem to find it easier to conceptualize the older male fans as wanting to rape little girls (because at least that "makes sense") than actually liking the show, but that's another discussion.
There's a certain cognitive dissonance involved in watching the show (as in "why am I enjoying something called 'My Little Pony' that is literally about talking magical horses, albeit ones with semi-frequent amusing mental breakdowns?"), but fuck me if the two-part season 2 ending wasn't legitimately one of the better finales of last season. I kind of enjoy the sensation that reality has broken somewhere to make that possible.
Well, so far we've got
sexualised WW2 pilots
Sexualised soda cans
sexualised guns
and also three series involving genderflipped, sexualised Sengoku Period generals...all of which released in the last year
Yeah, sometimes I just want to quit...
As someone else in here said, the character Tycho is into bestiality, yet people are reading far enough into this comic that it could practically be Atlas Shrugged. Who is Pedoanime Galt.
http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/01/16
I'll see your Strike Witches and raise you Seikon no Qwazer/Qwazer of the Stigmata.
Really, learning about that almost made me think about quitting (shudders)
The fact that that recently got licensed while great stuff like Dennou Coil and Mawaru Penguindrum still float in limbo made me curse out several deities
Set theory in action people.
Oh fuck, you just reminded me that Sky Girls exists. Any medium that contains that probably deserves some collateral damage, to be honest.
Anime is horrible
Paranoia Agent, an anime, is great
that is the math
Especially love.
People need to stop being so overly-defensive about their hobbies, I swear some posters in this thread were one sentence away from shouting "animesecution" or something. Here's a hint, for those unable to pick up on social cues: If someone says "all anime is for pedophiles", they're probably either making a joke or just trying to get a rise out of you. You can make a short comment that not everything in the medium revolves around underage girls if you really think they're that ignorant, but I would leave it at that.
Comic was funny, and to me representative more of an emotional state of irritation and creeped-outedness than some coherent argument about a medium. Tycho has mentioned enjoying Full Metal Alchemist before, for anyone still unconvinced.
* Fun Fact: I did a quick Google search to make sure I had the name right, and I'm pretty sure the official madokamagicausa.com technically qualifies as a troll site.
Well, everything is horrible to someone, so why not?
don't talk to me about how every media and group has bad stuff and you're watching Cowboy Bebop instead of Strike Witches
I get you, man
that doesn't mean that all anime isn't horrible
because anime is horrible and nothing you do or say will ever change that
it is absolute, a fundamental property of the universe
I was referring to the new Lupin series that just started airing this last April.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=14135
I've always enjoyed Lupin over the decades and this recent series is highly enjoyable in my opinion.
I can't speak for those boards since I don't visit them, but really, don't let the subcultures bother you. Minorities can get heavily magnified on the internet, because the people most passionate about their hobbies/obsessions/interests are the ones who speak up the most and the loudest. (Actually, this has been touched on by some Anime/Manga creators: sometimes they spend to much time catering to loud subcultures and lose their core audience)
Like, I still play on RP servers in MMOs even though there may be people cybering in some corner of the zone. And in Star Trek fandom you have the slash fics (well, you have those in every fandom). You could probably find very strange Tycho/Gabe stuff (I don't want to know where those people hang out!).
But that is the internet for you.
Wait, Lupin's a recent series?
Oh, I'm just now remembering that I did hear something about them making a 2012 season out of it. I stopped keeping up with anime years ago, but I can still appreciate the nostalgia of the cel-painted shows that were around during my high school years.
I wasn't implying the comic strip was generalizing, sorry if it I came across that way. As I said, Mike & Jerry are smarter than this and yeah, given their interactions at Comic Con I can see how they came to make this strip.
Whenever I visit anime messageboards and sites, outside of the big three of One Piece, Naruto, Bleach.... all I see are discussion, images, and ravings about series of scantily clad little girls doing cute things with perverted sexual undertones in most of them.
The recent series I enjoy such as Zetman, Space Brothers/Uchuu Kyoudai, Shirokuma Cafe, Lupin, Kids on the Slope/Sakamichi no Apollon are largely ignored. The anime community is enamored with little girls and the "moe" genre, something which I find distasteful and vapid.
i'd say so
Yeah, that's how I took it. Tycho is an offensive, pretentious dick by nature. He's not at all politically correct about the way he goes about things. He's not a good person. Clearly Tycho needs to straight-up kill Gabe in another comic for some minor slight like they often did in the early ones to hammer this home.
Even as someone who has watched enough anime to be arbitrarily labeled as a pedophile from some of the less excellent people on this forum, I still found his comic hilarious. vOv
That's alright, I didn't realise you were being defensive. Thought you were still describing conversations with coworkers and the like.
I wouldn't count what he is referencing as "popular". That kind of stuff is niche.
"Popular" would mean mainstream things like the big three Shonens, Gundam, etc.
Edit: Well, actually Gundam is pretty niche.
Sigh...I concede, you're right. I didn't really think that through
And to be honest, the reason I initially ended getting so diffensive was because I took your quoted first reply to what I said ("Every fandom has creeps. I'm not one of them") as being sarcastic towards me. It seems I was mistaken and I'm sorry.
http://penny-arcade.com/2009/11/13/tycho-jerry
forgive me for saying so, but the bolded section reads like an admission to being into shota (the male version). Again not trying to imply, but it's generally wise not to try and differentiate one creepy aspect of a thing from another, when trying to convince people of your non-perusal of the creepy stuff altogether (if that makes sense. I'm a little tired from lack of sleep). As to the rest, if anyone doesn't believe you when you adamantly tell them you aren't in the creepy side of the fandom, that's their problem.
Otaku are a minority, even in Japan, saying it's a "common stereotype" as I've seen in some previous posts here is ridiculous.
According THIS, there's around 1.7 million otaku in Japan, out of 128 million people.
This apparently includes gun-nuts and tech-nuts, nice otaku is a fancy way of saying "ULTRA NERD" not a synonym for pedophilia.
Also, most cute shows like K-on actually have a huge teenage girl fanbase.
A lot of otakus just enjoy the same shows, albeit like bronies, only less crazy or vocal.
Yes, that's actually more of a drama anime with some light comedy and an ironic title, since the sister in question is quite an obnoxious brat.
The conflict orbits around her desire to become an anime otaku with her brother trying to help her clean her act.
Nothing suggestive besides a few gags with the brother hiding her "little girl anime DVDs" and having the dad finding it and punching him. Pretty boring overall.
Yeah, that was a pretty bad game.
By "for a while now", do you mean "for over a decade"?
Yeah I know, which is why I said "loli" specifically. It's not a good counterargument I'll admit but sometimes I just get so damn frustrated at the argument I'll try to put any barrier I can to differentiate myself. Especially when it seems like just saying "Every fandom has creeps, I'm not one of them", won't cut it
If it was just Tycho saying it people could write it off as the highest hypocrisy, as he is a dude who is totally into bestiality. The problem arises due to it being based on a con interaction with Jerry, so people who like the comic feel like they're being attacked by one of the creators.
Of course, it's mostly just guys on the internet taking things too seriously.
In another age, I would have made this text lime green to portray my agreement
now all you get is :bz :bz :bz
you are aware that the general phenomenon is not just limited to little girls (the male side is not as visibly prevalent, but is certainly there), right? Not implying anything, but what you're saying is not the complete counter-argument you may think it is.
Excellent.